Comes out for 3DS on Feb. 19. Preloading is available on the Nintendo eShop.
Note: If you buy one cartridge, you can buy the other two paths at 20$ each as DLC (~800 memory blocks each), and you won't share save games across different cartridges.
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Budos: 01441-23690 | 87043-84766
Last edited by Budos; 02-20-2016 at 03:44 AM.
I'm gonna get all three versions, but I'm not sure I'll be picking it up on release, and I'm not sure if I want the physical cartridge to say Birthright or Conquest on it. (It's my understanding that you can get all three storylines on one cartridge.)
I wanted to get the special edition but apparently they all got swept up immediately. So... yay?
I don't get the point of making such low production runs. It should be "if you don't buy it within the first month you won't be able to find one" or something, not this 'hurr durr speculative trading on ebay' bullshit.
Yea, I mean I have loved most of the fire emblem games, and really enjoyed awakening. Enough that I wanted the special edition, but honestly, the major reason to get the SE was because it was one cartridge as opposed to 2 + one download.
I hate the super limited runs too; I'm usually right on top of them, but this one I missed. (Managed to get bravely second though, thank god.) But even then, I always feel super terrible about the low quantities. I had a friend who tried to grab it when gamestop had it briefly back in stock, and the site crapped out and while he was on the phone with CS fixing it, it sold out again. Errrrr...
I would be less or maybe not at all annoyed if the major benefit of the SE wasn't the single cartridge.
That should have been more of a package deal, and less an SE deal.
Can't wait; getting both, but definitely playing the easy one first as Awakening is the only entry I've playe.
Definitely play Birthright first then, Conquest has no grinding (except the xp DLC map, which doesn't come out until the 25th) and harder objectives (chapter objective break downs here - no spoilers). They did add a new setting along with Classic and Casual called Pheonix, where downed units will get up the next turn, so that's always an option.
Also, My Castles have codes attached to them, so we can share My Castles eventually and buy skills from each other later, or harvest crafting mats. One thing to note is that if you have a My Castle and unequip your weapons, the other person can get a free victory (your units won't attack) and winning allows you to buy a skill for half price, and you can also build supports through the castle battles. I was going to do a fast run of Birthright just to unlock stuff for My Castle before I restart on Lunatic.
I just hope the DLC is as expansive (and as often free) as what we got in awakening. I was late to the party on it - played it about a year ago - but I really loved the dozens and dozens and dozens of free maps that had all those recruitable charactes. Even if I rarely used them, they were a lot of fun to play. Couldn't believe so many were free.
DLC, which if you buy the Map Pack 1, you save about 7$ total vs. buying them all individually. I think GameStop had a deal if you a game, the other game's digital code and the map pack, but I can't find it.
I preordered Conquest. Will pick up the other two games as DLC.
I just want the whole game on a single cartridge, not the crazy "buy one part physical and the rest as DLCs" nonsense. I'd just buy the whole thing digital before I'd bother with that. If they release more SEs later on, or if someone in NoA finds some common sense and releases the full game on a single non-SE cartridge, I'll pick it up then.
To be fair, I just started playing Awakening this week and I'm not exactly blown away, so I can wait for Fates as long as it takes. I've always enjoyed FE games as a sort of SRPG-lite, but Awakening is bogged down with a lot of stuff I just don't care about. It doesn't help that looking online for tips immediately sends you off the deep end into the weird weeaboo side of JRPGs, I guess because the 'waifu' stuff attracts that crowd more than just about any other game out there.
http://serenesforest.net/awakening/ has really good, concise info. I did think some of the stuff in Awakening is a little obtuse, but after playing a while I thought the systems have some depth, children are way too OP though.
Treehouse and 8-4 really need to weed out the handful of assholes they employ who think it's acceptable to inject retarded memes and nonsense words into the scripts, and the SJWs who sit around all day looking for things that are "problematic" (and it would not surprise me in the slightest if those two groups had major overlap). Most of their staff seems to be fairly professional, but the idiots make them all look bad.
Two 30+ min videos about Fates:
Fry's is going to have copies of the Special Edition on release date and they aren't taking pre-orders/online orders on them.
Bought Birthright today and cannot fucking wait to get home. Anybody have impressions to share of either game? I'll be getting conquest but I'm not a series veteran, so I'll start with Noob Emblem.
Going to hold off. Treehouse has thoroughly alienated me and I'm not sure if I want to buy the game now.
What'd they do?
A lot of things. Removal of skinship, censorship of outfits... though I could deal with it if it were just those. For me, what's putting me off is the dialogue choices. Most of the language is either infantalized, memes, or both. I recently replayed Sacred Stones and comparing the way the characters talked in that game to the "rawr~~~~ XD so randum!!!!" of Fates really makes me disgusted with what Treehouse has done.
The censorship bothers me not at all, but I agree with the infantile dialogue. I dearly hope those excerpts posted earlier don't represent the bulk of the writing.
Had Birthright pre-ordered and it was suppose to be delivered today. Still not here, check status online, just says "Delivery Delay" as the status. Hopefully that just means it'll come tomorrow.
Been able to play about half an hour so far and it seems indistinguishable (minus dragon blood) from Awakening so far. Which is fine, becase that game is superb.
Was hoping to play this while the kids sell their girl scout cookies outside Lowes but my special edition got delayed a week by Bestbuy for some reason. Not too mad as they are giving me a $20 gift card for the delay and still have Xcom2 and Darkest Dungeon to finish. Never really played these for the story, but it bums me out that Nintendo is going back to what sounds like the Ted Woolsey era minus the charm. Really thought after Bayonetta 2 Nintendo was done with bullshit changes.
I've put in about 8 hours so far and I am enjoying it more than I did Awakening. I started with Birthright on Lunatic/Casual and it's challenging enough to make me grind and plan things out. Magic is no where near as OP as it was in Awakening, and they've balanced the weapons all really well I think (for example, swords have ranged options now). On Birthright, even without the xp DLC, you can grind by paying gold and you make the gold back from mobs in the map, but it seems like lower level mobs give very, very little XP if you're too high compared to them. The min. xp/mob is 4.
With the Treehouse stuff, yeah I wish they hadn't messed with stuff so much, but the shitty dialogue was the same in Awakening and I skim all of the conversation for the most part anyway. I would say based on what I've played that the story/writing is better than Awakening. That said, I do miss the dual audio that Awakening had. I find bad English voice acting to be 100x more grating than 99% of Japanese voice acting, but that's just me.
I really enjoy the game and it's awesome that I'm only on chapter 8 and still have 2 other whole routes to play through.
Also, if people want to post their castle codes, I will add them to the OP.
Mine is: 01441-23690 | 87043-84766
and Nintendo friend ID: 3926-8168-5256
Last edited by Budos; 02-20-2016 at 05:14 AM.
Cool man, thanks for the preliminary review. About to get home and will sink my 1-2 available hours into it tonight. Tomorrow and its freetime can't come soon enough. I haven't gotten far enough to have been freed from early-narrative moorings yet, so no castle or non-story skirmishes so far.
Also if you buy one of the cartridges, the other two paths are 800 blocks of memory each (1600 total) and the other dlc maps are all pretty small too. There's also a freebie map for release that you can play after getting your castle.
Wow, Nohr only has like one healing class. That's pretty sketch.
Yeah I was referring to how only the Troubador/Strategist/Butler line seems to be able to use staves on the Nohr side. And the Sniper, apparently. (Which has been renamed to Adventurer...why?)
About 7 hours to go and then I get to spend the evening with this game! I know Birthright is the the more casual of the two, but thus far it seems significantly harder than Awakening. Maybe I just forgot how to play
So glad I got Stella Glow instead after reading all this #torrentialdownpour shit.
Raaaage! Didn't get my copy today either. Damn USPS. I swear 1/2 the time I order anything online and it has to ship through USPS it never shows up when it's suppose to. Never have problems with UPS or Fedex but damn postal service...was hoping to sink a handful of hours into the game this weekend but now I'll probably get it monday or tuesday but won't have much time to play at all until next wknd, laaame.
I started getting some other skills for characters, mostly early ones and I set up my castle to be easily taken. Just make sure you fight in my castle and go straight for the throne.
It is going to take a lot of willpower not to abuse the mycastle stuff. I already got a dlc character not yet released and aptitude on my main guy. Had to stop myself from going to every high rated castle collecting all kinds of freebies.
Well, it is the best investment gold wise to upgrade your characters. Buying Luna for 375 gold is crazy town when you compare the cost to upgrading an iron weapon to +1, which is 1000 gold and a resource. Aptitude being 2500 is steep though.
I guess the once a day visiting helps moderate abusing it a bit.
Ive been playing this all weekend, started with birthright. Its way better than awakening imo. The censorship is the only real downside and its only noticable in the fact that when you invite someone back to your crib, theres nothing to do.
After watching the skinship videos I'm kinda glad it's gone. It seems more tedious than anything, even now I wish the 2d scenes could be skipped, except when Kagero is there...
Yeah the feature as it was didn't impress me much either. Its just that waste of like 10 seconds while you stare at the face of the person you invite with nothing to do but pan up and down is a pretty jarring sort of gap for some reason.
Its not really that big a deal, honestly even talking about it makes a bigger deal of it than its worth. I just felt it should be mentioned since it was such a big deal to people before the game came out.
The actual maps are really well done, the story is sufficiently interesting due to the hard choice between sides to pick and the replayability is sky high. I can't recommend this enough if you liked Awakening at all, you should really dig this one.
Last edited by hodj; 02-23-2016 at 12:20 AM.
They have people localizing games who don't even speak Japanese. They take the translated script and turn things they find "problematic" into fan-fic, and they apparently either are allowed creative control or they simply have no oversight. Character's personalities change, the tone of conversations change, and their idea of humor is injecting stupid internet memes that are already dated by the time the game ships.
I don't doubt that the actual gameplay is great, especially Conquest since I personally prefer FE1-7 to Awakening and never played any of the GC/Wii games, but between the nonsense of splitting the game into three parts and making the all-in-one version limited and the localization fiasco I have no regrets at all for giving it a pass just on general principles.
No, it should be the people at Memehouse and Nintendo of America right now, but I know better than to expect self-awareness from people like that. Me, I'm enjoying Stella Glow just fine.This should be you right now
They didn't just remove features and translate it terribly. They removed entire conversations as well. This translation house is garbage. Apparently there is an English patch for the Japanese version, if you're able to run homebrew stuff.
Yeah thats fucked up.
All that relationship stuff is filler content, the srpg is all I care about and that part remains solid, but yeah. They need someone else doing the translating and nintendo needs to get up off their dicks on the censorship stuff.
Truth be told, though, I really don't read any of that shit. I just start the conversation then hit start to skip past it. I'm interested in the improving relationships for their effects in battle, and couldn't really care less about the soap opera dialogues. That's a personal preference though. I can see someone who is interested in that stuff being super irked by it.
Last edited by hodj; 02-23-2016 at 04:33 PM.
I'm in the same boat as hodj, supports just mean more stats for fighting. I've read some of the fan translation dialogue and was equally unimpressed. Keep in mind a lot of these outrage videos pick a couple out of many and let's not pretend Awakening was great for the story and support conversations.
If anyone wants to go the import route: Here's how
A review from someone who played the fan translation and the localized version: here
Last edited by Budos; 02-23-2016 at 05:40 PM.
I need some sort of story to give a gameplay purpose. Even if it never rises above the level "generic anime". I also prefer mostly literal translations; no name changes, no puns or other silliness injected into source material that was serious, absolutely no goddamn memes, and fuck translators who think they are writers.
Last edited by Vorph; 02-23-2016 at 07:49 PM.
Yeah I skip like...so much dialogue in video games.
I've come to view it all as tripe for so long now that its just not even a concern for me at all.
I get the major plot points and understand the story and whats going on, but I skip so much of the side quest dialogues and stuff in games.
There's nothing that bothers me more in a game than sitting there wondering when the designers are going to give me control over my game and let me play it.
For me, I'm more interested in the gameplay than the stories any more.
Occassionally one will catch me and I'll really get into it, but I really agree with Carmack's assessment that story in video games is like story in porn: Its expected to be there, but its not that important.
I don't really enjoy reading books so I like to get decent stories from video games.
Game is so much fun currently. Haven't done any of the online features yet with the whole castle stuff but still having a blast. This battle I'm on is really pissing me off though because...
That chapter is piss easy compared to the next one.
I play the same way, on classic and if any character dies I immediately restart the whole mission.
You get a shit load more legs out of the game. I've been stuck on Chapter 10 for days.
Btw, the Boo Camp DLC is out for xp grinding. It's only 2.49 and it really helps when you get stuck and need a little more juice. It isn't as OP as the Awakening xp map and the mobs will attack you (the green ones).
My special edition finally showed up, game is really solid mechanic wise but had to turn the sound off during any dialog. The random two to three sentences they speak out loud before the start of a conversation are jarringly out of place.
Haha, no I'm talking Birthright.
I could beat it easily if I didn't care about losing a character, but I haven't found a good way to accomplish it without losing someone somewhere along the line.
Last edited by Vinen; 03-01-2016 at 03:13 PM.
Just started Birthright over. Love the game, as expected, but it got way too easy because I made the mistake of starting on normal and it wouldn't let me bump it up.
Just a reminder the gold and weapon farming DLC's are out today, for $2.49 each. The XP grinding map has also been out for a bit too.
Made it up to chapter 7 on my new game (hard, classic) and it's...not even the same game. Having to actually consider my decisions in lieu of spreading out and raping enemies indiscriminately is a hell of a lot more fun. I'll never play normal again on account of how fun hard mode is, but I am considering disabling classic. Was about to beat chapter 7 after 25 min or so when a lone spearman poked Sakura through a wall, killing her permanently, and I ragequit =p
edit: Game is pretty difficult for me (an FE noob) on hard - can't even imagine what lunatic is like. And this is the easier of the two.
Last edited by DoctorSpooge; 03-03-2016 at 08:30 PM.
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