Thought there was a thread for this but its only in the Netflix thread. Trailers look great, Tenant looks awesome in the 2nd trailer
Last edited by Homsar; 11-10-2015 at 05:09 PM.
Krysten Ritter is going to be fantastic in this, can already see it.
Hey, isn't that Jesse's girl?
yeah aka the bitch in apt 23
also the older chick is trinity from the matrix
Went to the marvel wiki to get some backstory on the comic version. thought this was pretty funny:
Jessica Jones (Earth-616) - Marvel Comics Database - WikiaAt home that night, Jessica tried to pleasure herself to her pictures of the Human Torch, but was interrupted by her younger brother Phillip. The family later went on a trip to Disney World with tickets given to them by her father's boss, Tony Stark.
The comic book this show was based on is an awesome read
Definitely not a kids book
I've already seen a few people bitch about this ruining their memories of his Dr. Who run.
reviews on the pilot seem to say it was awesome. Hopefully they get leaked soon
There's a few reviews out there, and they are almost saying the same thing in that's it's totally awesome, and one of the best if not the best thing Marvel has done...and from the articles, Jessica, Luke Cage and Killgrave are all perfectly cast.
Looking forward to it.
Even as a Marvel guy these are characters I've never really been interested in and other than Luke Cage being a brick know little about them... excited about all the earlier reviews and the second trailer has me really, really excited to dive in.
It's not bad, although I find her powerset pretty boring and basic. Only complaint so far is that in the first episode she effortlessly jumps like 30ish feet straight up to that fire escape, then has trouble pulling her 80-pounds-soaking-wet body over the railing.
This is very good stuff. I will never look at the 10th Doctor the same way again...
Haven't watched Dr. Who since the 80's; the one with the scarf. But I have heard the 10th is a favorite. Can't wait until I get home tonight to start this. I thought Daredevil was pretty awesome.
On episode 7 now
So far it's better than Daredevil. Luke Cage is awesome
Patsy Walker-Hellcat, also has some low level powers in the comics. can sense magic, and has weak forcefield from it.
This is why superheros should carry around zipties with them at all times. This show would have been over in episode 1 if she just came prepared to tie peoples hands.
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Daredevil might get better with season 2. I can forgive them a weak-ish first attempt if their second is starting out this great.
Having Netflix take a Marvel Max approach to their shows would be fucking awesome.
It's actually pretty good for a superhero show.
Not sure i'm really in the mood for it, but the production values are high. The acting is good. The writing doesn't seem bad either. It hits all the boxes.
I like it so far. Just hope I can stop myself from being cynical and seeing PC influences everywhere.
I'm liking that this has a lot more tie ins to the larger universe. I am very curious how Iron Fist is going to fit in to this.
The Lesbian attorney in this is a man in the comics. Feels a tiny bit forced. but, whatever, Moss kills it.
Luke Cage in the comics is more of a stereotype. huge black man from the Bronx created in 1972, who sounds exactly like he is. this Luke Cage is entirely nonthreatening, and doesn't push as many racial buttons of dating a girl next door white women.
Jessica herself is a bit less doe eyed, and more attractive.
Jessica in the comics.. Went to school with Spiderman, the same class. sat behind him. Had a crush on Peter. Parents were killed in the car accident, and she was in a coma for 6 months, powers start coming in slowly after. Peter never even knew her name. Super average. Trys to become a superhero with her powers. Jewel. Purple man comes along. In the comics, she "gets away" when he gets bored with her, and sends her off to kill the Avengers. Avengers deal with her about as well as they dealt with Ms. Marvel being raped.
Just watched the first episode. Digging it. Wasn't sure what to think after DD. I just could not get past Foggy and Vampire chick in that show. This show feels a lot less cliche so far, even after only one episode.
Half way through episode six and there still isn't an epic "one take hallway fight scene"....
Watched the first episode. Jesus you don't even meet Kilgrave and he's already the downright scariest villain they've introduced.
Really enjoying the series, on ep11 and its kind of a bizarre show. The whole series so far makes it an extremely anti-feminist feminist series if that makes sense. Majority of the main characters are all "powerful" women who, like everyone else in other series, are capable of making massively incompetent decisions that lead to everything getting more fucked up then it started. So kudos to them for actually writing middle of the road instead of going full "On a powerful Lifetime Series Movie".
Oh fuck, the cop guy she's talking to in episode 2 is Lester from the Wire! He should be making doll house furniture.
I was just about to ask you about that one-shot scene.
I think this was what started defining the show for me, and the weight that was being played into it. Phil Abraham was directing, and it was always scripted that this scene was going to be a one-shot. For me in my head, with the time we had, I said let’s do wipes and we’ll be able save things. But Phil challenged us to do a pure one-shot, which really just brought a grounded real feeling to the whole thing. We were able to slow down the fight, and just have this raw, animalistic feeling happening.
So it was genuinely one shot? No cuts?
No cuts. We did do a few Texas Switches between our actor and our stunt double, but it was purely a one shot fight. There were no cuts in that fight. Every performer, the actors and the stunt doubles, were in there performing that fight full on. I’d say there was a minimum of 105 beats, and they killed it.
Yeah and like Lyrical said all signs point to Iron Fist being sidelined for the Punisher. I don't know shit about the character but from the little I knew he always seemed like an odd fit for the Netflix shows. Punisher is cool, but a little part of me will miss the tumblr outrage that Iron Fist would have undoubtedly created.
Ok, got through the series.
Started off great as this Film Noir setting that had people with super powers, and devolved into the dumbest fucking mess by the halfway mark.
I mean this show is all over the place.. The characters constantly contradict themselves, and their power sets have no rules at all. Sometimes they are weak as fuck, sometimes they are insanely strong. It's almost like they were unsatisfied with the way the first half was going , and brought in a bunch of 13 year olds for the rest of it.
It just boggles the mind that any of this writing got through editing.
On the plus side, the actors are really good, and everything else is top notch. The direction, the cinematography, the orchestration, The editing all top tier.
Which makes it more of shame that they worked on such sloppy material...
If you just want to see Luke Cage fuck some shit up, and maybe Nuke. Stick around, but the show was just disappointing.
I really wish they would have kept their focus in the first couple episodes, and made this a cat and mouse Deathnote type of psycho thriller that was really smart, but we ended up getting was pretty much roll your eyes slop all the way through till the end.
I just finished it also, and thoroughly enjoyed it.
I thought the entire cast was fantastic.
Jessica is one broken chick.
Luke Cage was pretty cool, seriously looking forward to his show, wonderfully cast in my opinion.
The Doctor, I mean Killgrave was awesome. The "nonchalant" way he used his abilities just contributed so much to how totally depraved and horrible he is. Best marvel villain so far.
The show had a few flaw, namely the varying power level of Jessica but it's a small thing and didn't detract from an overall excellent show.
Great villain and everyone did decent acting. Unfortunately I stopped being able to take JJ "powers" seriously at some point. Somewhere between the support group home invasion brawl and that hospital patient girl with a broken nose getting right back up. They made her too weak and sloppy. get it together lady
Just finished and Im kind of happy its done. First few episodes were great then it just falls off a cliff. Fight scenes and powers in general are horribly done throughout.
lol.“‘Jessica Jones’ Is The Best Show On TV”
I know you’re prone to knee-jerk, positive hyperbole when it comes to comic book adaptations, but this is hilarious.
Goddmanit, I agree with Column. This shit is turning to hot garbage the longer it goes. She can lift cars in one episode, then she gets overpowered and knocked out by support group rejects? What the fuck ever. Writing is just getting lazy.
The whole comic book trope shit of we can't kill the villain is just too much here, like it often is. The dude is walking murder and insanity and there is 0 damn reason that he isn't just executed instantly by anyone that has the chance.
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When she had him in the back of the van the first thing my wife said is why doesn't she crush his mandible so he can't speak. That scene was avatar level of stupid.
So far the only thing that gets to me is the annoying angry ex subplot, that bitch has an ugly whiny face.
Agreed with some here, show was good, except for her power level not being consistent at all. It makes some scenes totally retarded.
Aside from that, Kilgrave > Kingpin.
Only 4 episodes in so far and I like it well enough. Killgrave is amazing so far and he hasn't said more than a couple of lines. Definitely needs more Luke Cage though. I assume there's more coming from him.
Finished it this afternoon and give it an 8/10 overall, they seriously need to improve writing both jessica and luke's strength while also using less shots of people just being thrown across a room. On a side note:Spoiler:
Meh, they are keeping both somewhat grounded so that Daredevil can kick their ass when the time comes.
IGH ran experiments on Jessica. They are the company that funded the treatments/experiments on Kilgrave and we will find out the ones that happened to Luke (when his show comes up). We will probably also find out that the chemicals that affected Daredevil. Just a guess of how things will start to unfold.
Pretty sure they explained why they didn't kill kilgrave several times so I'm not sure why that's bothering people.
Also agree that her power level seems inconsistent. At first I thought they just seperated her strength and durability, but she seemed more hurt by the ugly bitch hitting her with the 2x4 than when she got hit by the van.
I still enjoyed it alot. The story had me a lot more than Daredevil even though action wasn't anywhere close to the same level.
They give reasons to keep him alive, those reasons are just stupid as hell. I'm only on episode 11 so maybe its cleared up more and I'm in the wrong.
I'm curious to when the this takes place in the MCU timeline. The entire show is such a big departure from the norm that I find it difficult to wrap my head around the idea that this show and Agents of SHIELD exist in the same universe.
It happens after the events of Avengers 1, and after Daredevil season 1. So if I had to wager a guess it's roughly somewhere in season 1 of Shield.
It's hard to believe that Shield wouldn't be all over anyone even suspected of mind control.
The problem with kilgrave and shield spotting him is separating the wheat from the chaff of reports on such things. Near the end with his powers amped I am certain he would have gotten onto shields radar pretty fast but prior to that he is affecting a handful of people at a time who are so ashamed and embarrassed they don't want to talk about it and nobody they do talk to about it believes them.
Then the other trick is how do you look for this guy whom you are not sure what he looks like and risk actually finding him and have him jedi mind trick you away and into having a permanent accident.
One last thing to note I never really liked the alias comics and the jessica jones series was a pretty good detective noir show with super powers and it hits those notes very well. Overall I give it about an 8/10 and I have to say I really like their luke cage casting and am looking forward to that quite a bit as I am much more of a luke cage fan than jessica jones.
Last edited by kaid; 11-23-2015 at 02:58 PM.
Started watching it. Haven't finished it yet but I really like the style of it.
Column, I may not agree with you on a lot of things but you are batting 100 in terms of TV show critiques. I'm about to get into the mess portion apparently but front half was A++. I have an extreme raging hardon for noire however.
Kilgrave being as 'strong' as he is made me like him more. Everyone of the characters is either deathly afraid of him or doesn't even understand the kind of power he has. This makes him so much more compelling than Kingpin was to me. Even though, as a source material character, I like Kingpin more and truly hope season 2 does him some justice. It makes the struggle much more defined when your protagonist is up against seemingly insurmountable odds.
But the whole reasoning for her trying to catch him is fucking stupid. Whatever. I can get over that. Not bad for a first season IMO.
B.Net: TJT#1179"Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind."
Yes, that is Power Man curb stomping Juggernaut. And he's done that several times now.
Characters are just as inconsistent in comics as they are in the show
Finished the series, would give it an 8/10.
Other than the obvious gripes with her wildly fluctuating power set and the stupid shit that happens because the plot needs it to happen instead of it following logic, my only real gripe is a major problem at the end.
I liked it, power levels were retarded like they are in the movies. Not sniping or shooting him was just terrible and the only way to kill him was getting into arms reach? The whole reason for not killing him prior was just dumb, the Dude is killing people daily and you wont kill him because you want him in prison which wont fix shit.
And I also laughed at this show being more about powerful women but every female was stupid. The fucked up every turn from stupidity where the Male characters all got dragged into bullshit. Nuke, Luke Cage, Killgraves father, and Eka all got put in these terrible situations because of stupid actions from the females
Last edited by Homsar; 11-24-2015 at 11:15 AM.
She had a larger attachment to Hope than the others. That girl went through the same shit Jessica did. Jessica probably felt obligation no matter the cost.
So Hope gets out of jail and Killgrave just talks his way out of prison instantly? the whole plot of sending Killgrave to prison was dumb as shit
Sarcasm aside, it's not that we can't figure out why she wanted to capture him instead of kill him. It's simply the fact that the "why" is retarded. You don't let all those people die just to save one innocent girl you just met from going to prison. It might have worked better if it had been Trish instead of Hope. At least there the conflict would be more acceptable. It's just shitty, lazy writing in an otherwise decent show.
yeah this was actually balanced where all the chicks had power (of various kinds) but still were women and thus were retarded and it was the men who had to come up with all the obvious solutions. Spec Ops guy after 1 single altercation with kilgrave figures out you need to snipe/bomb/take him out from a distance, and to bring zipties to subdue innocent mind puppets. Lester freeman after getting the bare basic "something's not right here maybe there's something to this" brings a roll of duct tape and has to tell her to use the damn shit.And I also laughed at this show being more about powerful women but every female was stupid.
OTOH -- it is a comic book show, and follows comic book logic.
It's dumb as shit, we have to take that as granted. But if Batman did the sane thing (like -- just execute the Joker without a trial the first time he tries to kill the entire city) then there's no story. In a lot of ways you've got to think like a 13 year old, or else you have to take the story into Superman Tyrant -- where he enforces world peace because a) he can and 2) he's just plain sick of the shit.
I guess you have nothing but deaf prison guards for kilgrave. But he has a right to both a trial and self-representation... so yeah, the entire premise of capture is purdy dum.
But it is comic book logic, and it is womanly.
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Just finished watching this last night and it was decent but not great. Most of the issues I have with this show are spelled out already in the thread. Inconsistent powers is kind of the big one.
Thought the first 7-8 episodes were pretty good, seriously annoying after that and got bogged down near the end. Even though it kind of started unravelling I would watch more if it were released.
The power thing was really distracting, though, and was such a stupid way to advance the plot.
On another note, Kilgrave is one of the top villains for me. So much suspense and so disturbing every scene he's in.
Ontopic : Finished the series, I pretty much agree with the others. Also, making Kilgrave's ability a virus is pretty dumb, how would that limit his power by range ? He oozes enough to cover 100 feet as he walks around ? Response time being instantaneous doesn't really work either. Making it sound based since he uses speech (doh) sounds a lot more reasonable imo. Should mention I haven't touched any marvel comic books ever.
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