Our legal system furthers their cause, go go lawyers!
I don't really *get* the Anonymous thing, and this church is just one sad family that brainwashes their kids into hating everyone. Have you seen the documentaries about the family? It's just sad, and you feel so bad for those kids.Posted: December 16, 2012
By Wolff Bachner
Commentary – Updated | The hacking collective known as Anonymous renewed their war on the Westboro Baptist Church today. After the haters from the infamous church posted their intentions to picket the funerals of the twenty children killed in the shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School, Anonymous responded by re-posting the personal and professional information for members of the church on the Internet. Now the general public can contact the church members directly and tell them what they think about people who would desecrate the funerals of murdered children.
Westboro Baptist Church has been irritating Americans for years with venom filled message about their demented version of God. According to the many closely related and intermarried members of the Phelps family who make up the majority of the congregation of the so-called church, God enjoys killing children and soldiers. They constantly proclaim God hates homosexuals and plans to destroy America for not following the Westboro Baptist Church’s twisted version of Christianity. The incredible obsession with homosexuality expressed by Fred and family seems to many as a sure fire case of “thou dost protest too much.”
Anonymous has been after the Westboro Baptist Church for several months now, hacking their websites repeatedly. Recently, they accused the church of creating a fake letter from the hacking group in order to trick other hackers into attacking the website. Anonymous warned their supporters the church planned to harvest internet addresses and sue people. Suing people is apparently the primary activity of the Westboro Baptist Church when they aren’t screaming hate at funerals.
Of course, Westboro denied the charges and taunted Anonymous as incompetent hackers. They claimed their website was protected by God. Big mistake. A few days later, while a Westboro spokeswoman was boasting about how the church foiled Anonymous on a radio talk show, an Anonymous spokesman called in and hacked the church’s website in real time on the air.
Our legal system furthers their cause, go go lawyers!
Their sole purpose isn't to spread the word of God, its to troll the legal system.
Anonymous was originally what people from 4chan called themselves because of the posting rules on that site. You couldn't register initially, so everyone who posted was "Anonymous". Over the years 4chan users started pulling internet pranks like doing real life raids and harassing facebook and myspace users. At some point in 2008 the group decided to stage protests against Scientology. Critics of that church joined the banner of "Anonymous" for protection from the Church's policy of ruining the lives of their critics through legal and illegal harrassment.
Around this time, a group of hackers calling themselves anonymous decided they could change the world. So this group of hacktivists began attacking corruption in government, corporations, and other groups. They rallied behind wikileaks, declared war on a bunch of different groups, and have generally acted like freedom fighters when really they're a bunch of computer nerds under the age of 30. Although the individual members of the group aren't very good at hacktivising or whatever, and often end up in jail, the idea behind the group continues to bring in new stupid children to join the cause.
PRE-2008 image macro describing "Anonymous" users of 4chan.
2008 image macro about the Guy Fawkes masks used to hide people's identity from the Church of Scientology during the protests.
New anonymous flag and there are several movies on youtube that describe anonymous, it's mission, and other general propoganda.
What is Anonymous? It's a bunch of people who support the ideals of freedom on the internet and elsewhere. It's a meme, and it will never die as long as children have access to the internet.
Last edited by Himeo; 12-18-2012 at 12:09 AM.
I can't think of a single reason now to commend them for this. Essentially they want to be "the Batman" of the internet, and until they do something heinous to turn the public on them they will probably get away with it.
They do their shit under a guise of religion but it is just that, a guise. None of them are crazy, none of them believe their bullshit. They are assholes plain and simple exploiting tax law.
They understand what they are doing and are doing it for a couple reasons.
- Money garnered under a church protest are considered religious funds and are subject to the same tax laws.
- All members of the family (and some extended family / church members) are staffed (paid) members of the church and thus are subject to the same tax laws.
- Any time the group is denied the "right to protest and free speech" they sue the county / state for being denied rights, the funds are subject to the same tax laws.
Notice any recurring trend?
I am without a doubt certain that if their "church" was denied tax exemption and they were required to report the same as a company that they would stop protesting.
Their "message" (Anti-everyone) exists for a couple reasons..
- It is the most offensive possible while staying legally "grey"
- The tone garners a TON of negative press (read; good press for them) which in turn sours a state / county to them paving the way for their suit against the location they protest.
- It is "religious" because in order to be classified as protected speech it needs to be provable that there is a "reasonable and logical" basis for their beliefs, thus...religion.
So no, do not feel sad for them or their children. They all understand completely what they are doing. A few of their kids have left the family and their "Church" because of their disagreeing with the tactics used, but you never hear about them because they would lose their street cred if you understood that they are logical people...just...assholes.
imo those kids have it rough.
They do, this whole thing is about money for them don't be suckered in by emotion, they don't have any and neither should you when you see their antics.
The kids that grow up and leave the group are disowned for a couple reasons, they don't have to give them money and they aren't legally liable for them after they disown them.
"Crazy" or not, they use their kids and teach their kids the "value" of what they do. That being using law tricks and exploits to earn money. It is clear the kids understand their actions since a few have left the family.
They have won some pretty massive cases under their firms name, their family has a LOT of money from their actions.
Trust me when I say this, they know right and wrong, they are NOT crazy. Assholes? Without a doubt...
Anonymous is my hero irl.
I watched a documentary by Louis Theroux about Westboro Baptist Church. He actually lived with the main family for a week or so, and they are the most fucked religious nutbags. It was eye-opening, how easily they were indoctrinating hate into the children. I have no doubt that they are truly, truly touched by evil.
Unintended lulz there."reasonable and logical" basis for their beliefs, thus...religion.
Good job to Anon, I couldn't care less what happens to their adults.
I despise these people and their actions, but part of me feels if we strip them of their rights like so many want to do, why stop there? If we deny them tax exemption, we may as well remove that from the rest of churches. (which I'm in favor for anyways). I can hate it all I want, but taking their rights away is a good way to get started on taking mine away.
Perhaps this is a bit over the top but my best case scenario is every one of those shitheads gets killed by someone who's finally had enough of their garbage and then a large group of people shows up to protest their funerals.
I'm honestly shocked no one has killed them yet. There has to be one grieving widow of a soldier, or a father who lost his only son, someone with nothing to lose. Who would even disapprove?
Looks like Shirley Phelps' Twitter account was hacked as well?
Any updates on whether they are planning to show up?
I figured someone would likely just say "fuckit" and just try something more serious..
There have been attempts on them but nothing really well thought out.
This is why I love the internet... Justice can be served to those who have not "official" done anything wrong. Go Anon!
I'm really hoping one day I can get these abhorrent people to change their names.
Anon. Our Justice League in this world of moral bankruptcy.
Back when I lived in Manhattan, which was in the mid '90s, I'd occasionally drive by them in Topeka and see them protesting at the side of the street. This was before they were anywhere as wide known as they are now, and they were more or less just a local phenomenon. And still they'd be out there, hated by the local populace, yelling at cars as people drove by.
Anon is an interesting group, part of me loves what they do but another part really doesnt like what they have done in the past. Not all bad mostly I agree with a lot of it. I would be a very strong supporter if they cleaned up a little and just went after the horrible people of the world.
To judge anon based on their previous actions is to judge a vigilante on the entirety of what vigilantes have done.
Anon is more of a force or an idea than a discrete group of people.
Vigilante's aren't the answer, but it seems to be better than letting idiots brainwash children.
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