New teaser, fall of civilization in 30 seconds. Neat but really doesnt show the show.
Starts August 23rd, season 1 is 6 episodes like The Walking Dead was
"Set in Los Angeles, the series follows a divorced male teacher, a female guidance counselor, and her two children–a son and a daughter–in the opening stages of the zombie apocalypse as they come to terms with the impending collapse of civilization"
Last edited by Juvarisx; 07-11-2015 at 08:59 PM.
New teaser, fall of civilization in 30 seconds. Neat but really doesnt show the show.
Should be pretty cool to see the 'shit hitting the fan' how it plays out etc. From the looks of it, it seems like they've got a decent sized budget and should be able to do it well.
That one is blocked for me, but I found another one. I hope I can get it somewhere when it starts.
This one is more about the lead up and the fall it seems which could be interesting depending how they do it.
Much like True Detective Season 2, the viewership of the fanbase will almost certainly ensure Fear is a big success for a few years regardless of quality.
I dig the trailers. I laugh and make fun of TWD more than anything, but maybe with the new setting and characters in this, it will be the better of the two. Not being in some shitty woods every season will be an improvement on its own.
I have a running bet with my wife that we won't actually see a "real" walker until the next-to-last or last episode. There will be plenty of misdirection with junkies/homeless people, but no full-frame shot walker till the end. Instead we will get a family/work drama about living in LA.
i cant believe AMC would spend big money on this when they are so fucking cheap when it comes to everything else. i bet what you see in the trailer was the majority of the budget and the show itself will be drama about the stuff that happened in the trailer.
Id like to see a lot of the military response stuff. One of the things I never got in the show was the flashbacks where the military starts killing all the civilians on the highway. Will be interesting but maybe Cliche.
I liked the movie "The Crazies" with timothy olyphant actually, kind of a similiar idea.
A problem I can see is that, yeah we're all going to watch these first few episodes / first season. To see the collapse and how it all plays out. And done right it should be really cool.
And that will likely be the whole first season. But then after that . . . we see as the central characters find some 'safe' zone & method of survival. And its jumped the shark.
That said, I end up watching a lot of redundant garbage from the zombie genre, so I could see this being just one more guilty pleasure in a couple years.
Their only option is to make this the higher quality, less cheesy, awesomer show. If it just becomes another moral lecture of the week, then.... people will probably still watch the shit out of it?
More previews. It says in the video that this show will cover the months Rick was in a coma though he may just mean the first season. I do hope they keep it in an urban environment, Day of the Dead style series.
alt link because AMC is stupid https://youtu.be/Y37kPIvzhJ0
"In many cases the infrastructure becomes a trap in and of itself", I like this quote, hope they actually thought this thing through instead of plot feelz guiding the story.
Well I enjoyed the first episode. I'll give it some time. I lost interest in The Walking Dead in the second season. I'm hoping this is more interesting.
I'll thought this was trash. 90 minutes of building tension without building tension. The druggie son story is awful.
Yeah I hope he gets killed horribly.
though it was ok. i was expecting it to be a lot slower.
dont give a shit about spoilers, is this even worth watching?
Well, they are sticking to what works, obviously. And by that I mean killing black guys. At least one, possibly two!
I'll keep watching because it has Lexa from The 100, who isn't quite as smudged and dirty (and thus somehow hotter) as The 100 yet, but she still has time!
It wasn't great, but I'm hoping that once they actually get into the real zombie shit it will get better, since hopefully we won't have to deal with crap storylines like druggy son and angsty daughter.
That whole episode was just too slow, we're all watching this to see the playing out of the end of civilization, not a family drama.
Watching it I found myself thinking that Shaun of the Dead did it better.
First scene with him waking up and looking for his girlfriend was a good start but then, lets set up a bunch of characters for an hour.
Oh and sidenote, I was getting ads for the next season of TWD.
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The build up was not near as intense as I had hoped. Though I did like the heroin kid a lot more than I expected though that was more me thinking he was the bastard child of Jim Morrison and Fredo Corleone in the zombie apocalypse which made me giggle.
Yeah, I know they are trying for character development and all that but I just don't *like* any of them so far. Dad is fine but if Mom and addict-boy killed each other next episode, that would be great!
I expected it to be slow considering these are all new characters and they are going to spend an episode setting them up. Considering it's only 6 episodes I expect shit to hit the fan quick. I wish it wasn't centered around just one family. Also, fuck Sling TV for crapping out twice during the episode.
It's just too slow. Let's say what we have seen is it. 3-4 zombies leave the church. It would spread quicker in 3-4 days than its has. I mean they have videos of that one on the highway. But LA county has what, 10 million people? How many die a day naturally? Couple hundred? In the 3-4 days of this show between natural death and the zombies spreading there should be thousands of zombies loos in the city.
I agree with others, it started slow, but that is to be expected with episode 1. It looks like shit hits the fan quickly which is what I'm really interested in seeing.
Thought the son was a zombie at times.
If they don't end the world by episode 6, then it's just a really, really shitty drama about a bunch of nobodies. Not a great way to get people excited for season 2...
if i understand the timeline, rick got shot just before this started, so about 2 weeks till everything goes to hell. i wouldn't be surprised if s1 and s2 both just deal with the 1st month.
Sling TV shit the bed while my wife was trying to watch this. AMC needs to get on a big boy streaming service.
If you didn't like episode 1, word has it that it goes down hill from here. TV critics got a few episodes in advance and they have said ep 1 is by far the best of the bunch.
My expectations for this series have been driven so low over the years, I thought this was a pretty fine effort at a prequel story.
The step-kid, 2nd marriage aspect is a different dynamic, and the step-dad is a great character. The writing was better. All the details seemed to make sense, whereas they were bungled for years on the first show. No real, "WTF" moments, where they were a dime a dozen on the previous show.
It isn't I didn't like EP1 it was just filled with so much random bullshit that at times it made little sense and when events were happening that were involved in the real story, which is the 8 billion people's fate and not the fucked up Cali family, was drowned out for it.
The Last Ship did it last night as well where if you watched that they had a scene where stuff was going to hell, cliffhanger commercial break to come back and everyone is arriving back to safety all fucked up.
Did I miss it or did we still miss what caused the virus.
kirkman said will never learn the cause of the virus. his biggest regret on show was explaining what they did with the cdc arc.
They also seem to have retconned the whole notion that dead people take 12-72 hours to reanimate.
The artistic black guy is Randy Wagstaff from The Wire, so it looks like that are keeping with that tradition from the main show.
As for the comments that this would expand much more quickly, I would agree under the premise that everyone is already infected, but in reality, we're almost certainly looking at a stage when few people are infected. It's really less plausible that everyone in the world instantly wakes up infected and will reanimate upon death from that moment on.
Overall, was about what I expected from episode 1. Lots of character development. Few zombies. I agree that some of the pacing was bad and several of the characters are weak, but those wanting complete societal collapse in episode 1 (or episode 6) are missing the point. Much like in World War Z, I hope that human behavior leads to then collapse more than zombie population.
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They need to bring the Governor back just so he can drop all those teen kids into a pit of walkers. Improves the show 1000%.
It seemed like they were hinting that maybe the flu shot is to blame for the spread.
With slow zombies, the only realistic way they would take over is if you had rapid reanimation, because the only thing slow zombies have going for them in that scenario is the element of surprise initially. With slow reanimation, if someone died in the middle of the night, you'd have time to wake up the next day and cook breakfast. If they reanimate in less than a minute, then the same scenario would result in lots of victims (and thus more zombies).
I mean 90 minutes and we saw two zombies. One in minute 2 and one in minute 88. I'm ok with it not being zombie fest but literally less than 15 minutes was spent on the main story and the rest was bs backstory that won't matter in 3 episodes
The main series started with rick waking up and being immersed right away and I had hoped they would follow that path.
The junkie kid's rain-man shtick is a big red flag. That kid is gonna set people's teeth on edge when the show starts pouring on its inevitable filler episodes.
Well, they're probably going to do the typical, cliche junkie-redemption arc. Things will fall apart, he'll step up, then a little later he'll come across a convenient drug stash, fall off the wagon for a bit, then redeem himself again.
TWD source is also inconsistent with it as well. They managed to drag Shane's body and bury it without him reanimating but Carol died and immediately came back.
I thought the initial intro worked well. Reminded me a bit of "Lost" with the one of the leads waking up, confused as to what happened/would happen. As a viewer, though aware that FTWD takes place pre-zombie outbreak, I thought we were seeing a post-outbreak survivor camp that was compromised - and the show would ultimately be about how Nick and L.A. got there. Clearly, that was the intended message given how after Nick was struck by a car, various people came flooding in to assist in a very tight aerial camera shot which ultimately pans to a busy L.A. street. I had high hopes.
Then came the classic bullshit/idiocy we've all come to expect from TWD writers and it all went downhill for me.
(i) Travis(step-father), going into a known heroin house alone and unarmed. Also, Nick just told Trevor that a massacre took place inside. So, at best, you have the jump-scare heroin addict just chilling in the abandoned church; at worst (and more likely) you get fucking murdered and nobody knows where you are. (Spare me the "Travis did this as a means to bond with Nick." Call the police).
(ii) Nick, who is clearly a heroin junkie (hell, he had his own little set-up in the church), is perfectly normal in a hospital bed. How about those withdrawal symptoms, kids? Doubtful "a little banged up" warrants painkillers to a heroin addict. Great writing. . .
(iii) "Leaked footage" of the attack on PD/FD/EMTs. Given the angles, the footage could only be obtained by either the PD helicopter and someone/thing (dashcam) on the ground in extremely close proximity to the event. Taking that into consideration as to who was present, such footage would not get leaked overnight, if at all.
(iv) Travis and the mother, Madison, going back to the church. . .Travis saw the gore in that place, yet he brings Madison there. I can't even. . .
(v) Calvin reanimated. OMFG. Travis and Madison just witnessed their son commit homicide - which should be startling enough. But, then all three see Calvin moving on the ground: bones exposed, bloodied, parts of his face torn off. And...we stand there. Umm, how about pants-shitting screams and fleeing for your life?
Couple all the above with ridiculous anti-climactic tension builders (police motorcycle zooming by and the, wait for it, principal hunched over in a chair listening to his teachers) and the needless narratives (did they really need to drag out the daughter's relationship with her boyfriend?) and this show is going to be fun to hate watch.
Shame that this is the best TV can offer for the zombie-genre.
Oh, and next week, apparently a homeless man (zombie, but unknown to the public) gets killed by the police sparking an anti-police rally. FTWD taking on current national issues. Okay. . . #zombielivesmatter
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I thought at some point in time they addressed the inconstancy like some people are more adapt at fighting off the disease than others and they were going to try and investigate why that happens
Just googled it, yup:
"The next day was her birthday and Andrea put the mermaid necklace around her neck. Amy lies dead in Andrea's arms all night until morning, when she wakes up as a zombie and reaches up for Andrea, somewhat pulling her hair. Andrea apologizes to Amy for never being there for her. Andrea then shoots her when Amy sits up and tries to bite her neck. She is later buried during the funeral for the fallen campers."
I really don't get the hate. I thought the first episode was fucking fantastic. I can see how the junkie would get annoying in a zombie apocalypse but for now I actually thought it was well acted.
Honestly this was vastly better than I expected.
zombie virus eliminates heroin withdraw
btw, unless it was a body double on SoA, the Mom is still hot at 50 and amc turn up the sexy for their shows
I was also thinking that at the rate at which people turn in this show (even if it is only a few minutes) and the zombie speed I just can't see zombies taking over in 90% of the big cities. Maybe in a small town where people don't know what is going on and are more remote etc but with internet/tv etc people would get a handle on it pretty fast kind of like how the people in the hospital removed the person asap. I just can't see the zombies hitting critical mass and overtaking. To me it makes more sense in Z Nation where they turn nearly immediately and right after they turn they move at the speed of a normal person running at you. That could spread fast enough imo.
Some laughable moments and things they did only for the added suspense, like backing down dark tunnels, but it was as good as could probably be expected. I mean, did anyone expect this to NOT just be a family drama with zombie neighbors when that's exactly what TWD not only is, but what made it such a widespread success? The throngs of chicks and middle aged parents that follow TWD love that shit. Those of us wanting some dark, gritty, well-acted The Wire meets zombocalypse are in the minority, I'm afraid. So, I'll just enjoy the laughs, hope for a few interesting characters, and be thankful for the occasional cool zombie. And save my ire for shows that actually had a shot at some measurable quality and shit the bed instead of this which was always going to be terrible in typical TWD glory. This franchise being terrible is part of the fun!
its not good, but I'm going to give it a go for at least a few more, TWD has been largely brainless enjoyment for a few years so its earned a shot. They are laying on the implied suspense pretty heavily though with camera angles and music cues. Ah well, nothing else to watch right now anyways.
Zombie Survival Index:
Playa Dad teacher: 2 (clearly able to use his cock as a weapon)
Mom Teacher: 1
Pixie Girl Who Probably Knows UNIX: 1 (saw headshot)
Johnny Depp: 5 (street person group bonus)
Black People: 0
Odds of Pixie Girl running off to find her BBD and causing someone unimportant to die.. 4/5
The couple of scenes of beating the shit out of zombies were pretty damn funny. I half expected someone to start throwing records.
Also, in the opening shot I thought "this girl has facial fuzz"
Kirkman probably got the world's most massive erection when he was writing that he could shoot a black man then run him over twice in the matter of only a few minutes
It's okay because he was a drug dealer.
We still haven't had them bash a zombie child to death with a pipe.
I didn't think homeless James Franco wannabe was as annoying as the rest of you I guess. Decent first episode, will watch.
With the way he walks he should only show up in future episodes when eating breakfast.
My only complaint is they are still doing that bullshit where the driver spends more time looking at the passenger than the road. Then it is SURPRISE MOTHER FUCKER!!!! Something is in the road you didn't see because you weren't paying attention in one of the most stressful times of your life!
I actually watched this.
Warning: I hate The Walking Dead
Synopsis: This series sucks fucking dick.
Review: Worst 1hr20min of my entire life.
Summation: This show gets a 1/10. I gave it a 1 because I want to see the mom's tittys. Yes, I already googled them and saw them, but I want to see them again.
She definitely has the worst haircut ever in Hollow Man and looks unattractive, but who am I to complain about a stray titty? She looks magnifi-fucking-cent in SOA though, or whatever it was I saw her butt in.
Has any zombie meta ever explained why the zombies don't get fat? I mean I'm assuming they don't poop.
I imagine they don't actually process food, so they are always starving. They just eat and stuff falls out of some hole or another.
Because scientifically, none of this makes sense anyhow.
kirkman and company really fail at making a consistent zombie mythos.
pretty sure in both the show and the book have portrayed walkers that have not eaten as weak and slow.
they have also show them to be very active too.
at this point, magic couldn't even explain everything.
funniest scientific observation i read about walkers was there lack of water intake, saying after a while they would weight 1/5 of normal and would probably have a 10 feet vertical. most other zombie have some sort of special blood or other something to prevent that
We know they don't need any organs other than the brain to function, which basically rules out any sort of logic.
I just pretend all the calories go towards maintenance of walking 30 miles a day
I can see why they regret the CDC episode. Just don't make people think about the hows and whys.
The problem usually comes from the headshot trope. It takes some serious imagination (or ignorance) to swallow that one. A body that has been blown apart by a fucking artillery shell may as well be Hershel's head laying on the grass, it ain't going nowhere. Fucking WWZ.
At least WD does give us zombies deteriorated to the point where all they can do is lay there and rot, and can get blown apart by blasting them with piss. And that seems to be from lack of ability to catch food, rather than just aging. Presumably a "healthy" WD zombie can live forever as long as it eats. But a cripple will just starve & rot away.
At least I pretend they thought about it that much.
EDIT: Also have to pretend that Michonne's zombie gimps would have rotted to nothing over time. And all those heads in jars that were still moving. God dammit, see what happens when you think? Better to be dumb.
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I don't think the zombies ever really "need" to eat. There are instances of them finding a person who hanged themselves and they come back still "alive" as a zombie. Since they're hanging by a noose you have to assume they have not eaten.
I assume those just rot away to nothing eventually. Energy has to come from somewhere.
It differs from zombie setting to zombie setting.
Day of the Dead covered some of this stuff in George Romero's universe.
Who the fuck knows in the Walking Dead. That lore is so broken and hack neyed that you might as well say "A wizard does it"
They eat to spread the disease not from hunger.
oderint dum metuant
The disease is airborne in Walking Dead.
Even if you're never bitten, you come back. Everyone has the disease already.
Yes I figure the ones that are capable of eating are essentially immortal and the ones that can't are going Christian Bale and get their energy by slowly consuming their own insides until they waste away. They don't have to be shitting human-like turds, they could just ooze waste all the time like grandma.
Otherwise it's just magic, heh.
Remember, most zombie lore doesn't take place over a huge extended period of time. Walking Dead tries to be different that way.
Last edited by Kreugen; 08-27-2015 at 05:52 PM.
If I'm wrong then there should be some seriously fat ass zombies shuffling around until they burst.
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