So do you guys think that the Koshka guy is gay? Post your predictions here.
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Dark Dexter is awesome.
So do you guys think that the Koshka guy is gay? Post your predictions here.
i think hes dead.
Show of hands who wants to rape Hannah? Not the power raping, just the uncontrollable penis rape
I hate this new writer, but I hope she brings it full circle.
Not looking forward to this supposed major plothole finale. Are they going bring back a doakes? If they do it ruins their best season and probably puts me off this show for good
Haha jesus astrocreep you have to be one of the dumbest people ever born
Fucking LaGuerta. Dex should have let Jimmy Smits kill her years ago.
Surprise mother fucker! I paused it and doakes was not in the shipping yard. So either he is back or he is a ghost like dexters dad.
They killed Doakes dead as fuck... so I'm going with Ghost Doakes.
20 minutes into this weeks show. Fuck the writing is so bad.
FUCK THIS FUCKING SHOW SHIT ASS DICK FUCK JEW CUNT
It's obvious Deb intentionally did it to herself to get Dexter to turn on Hannah.
My girlfriend and I have a bet going regarding this. I'm on the "Debs a crazy bitch who did it to herself so she can have Dexter all to herself" side. And my girlfriend just thinks Hannah did it.
"Son of a bitch! Dickie Moser?!"
The other thing that made Dex suspicious was that what happened to Deb mirrored what Hannah was hoping to do to the writer. This wasn't something that Deb knew about. So if she did it to herself, she got really lucky, in that 1) she really didn't kill herself passing out in the middle of the road, and 2) the circumstances just so happened to align with a ploy that Hannah plotted previously that Deb wasn't aware of.
It's entirely possible, but unlikely.
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That car was pretty fucked up. I'm not sure how you fuck it up that bad and stick it in a ditch without actually being in the car itself. She would have had to hurt her arm as well. I mean, I'm not discounting the theory, but if that's what these writers actually come up with ...
I think Deb did it also. It doesn't add up. Even if Hannah did happen to get Deb to pass out while driving and not pull over, or be somewhere else, her chances of actually killing her are still quite slim. Plus she'd know Dexter would suspect her and probably figure it out. Plus, as she said, that other chick is a drug addict, big slut, etc. Her statement in court would be useless. PLUS Hannah met that other chick and talked about it, and they both know that Deb has dick all for evidence and the only way Deb can do anything to anyone is if they admit to it.
And right before Deb got in the car, she said to Hannah: "I'm gonna do whatever it takes to protect him from you."
But there's not much hope of Hannah staying around now, so I'm gonna go ahead and kill myself, then watch Chuck marathons.
That being said, I do sort of think Hannah is innocent because she doesn't appear to be dumb enough to give Dexter all those clues. Just not sure how I could reasonably explain Deb doing it to herself without pulling some TV magic.
Also, decided upon an avatar for awhile!
Im going to be thinking about Vvoid's avatar all week.
Gotta be Ghost Doakes.
Ghost Doakes, and I'm on the Deb did it to herself team.
God the writing has gone to shit, but it's still better than a bunch of the shit on tv these days.
I wish LaCunta would just die already, though her having set the trap for Dexter was pretty clever. She has to know he is the BHB now even though she can't prove it.
I felt like Deb did it to herself, but I don't understand how you would drink something that is 50% xanax and not know, that stuff has flavor for sure and it isn't pleasant. Dexter ignores this and any evidence that she would have access to Deb's water bottle and that Deb would be chugging said water bottle on the way to do something. I've taken probably 4 bars in one night before, definitely didn't black out immediately. Also not sure why Dexter thought it was a good idea to try and kill his mom's murderer 24 hours after he's released and that he finds out that LaGuerta definitely thinks it's him
Guessing Doakes is just a flashback.
next week looks good
so last week, quinn kills iron eagle, fetch's nadia passport. gets her some cash and tells her to get out of town. this week he goes back to the strip club which probably should be closed and asks if nadia is there? the stripper tells quinn that nadia is stripping in vegas and relayed her goodbye note. quinn is now shocked that shes gone? what?
doakes is dead, if not then the Onion was right and im done with this show because it makes 0 sense that hes alive. i also think that scene of la guerta leading dex in handcuffs is also a dream, by either laguerta, deb or dexter. i think la guerta is going to disappear next week or dexter will make it look like she committed suicide over doakes. the fallout from that is anyone's guess. who knows maybe carlos finds out something and decides he isnt going to retire until he puts dexter away.
did debs poison herself? well for that to happen she would have to assume, deb knows how much of the tainted water she needed to drink to make her pass out, when and where it would happen on the road. that she wouldn't accidentally kill innocent bystanders and that she wouldn't be seriously injured, that at the hospital carlos breaks his silence, tells dex about arlene shrum, that hannah didnt tell dexter she went by deb's house, that dexter would suspect hannah so he would look at deb's car and find the water and suspect its contents enough to have it analyzed. then get the results and automatically turn on hannah. either all that happened or hanna simply poisoned her like she had already told dexter she intended for sal price. i actually suspected that arlene was the one that was going to be poisoned, not deb. and it would look like she OD'ed
question. did estrada drown or he is still out there?
Really, the only way to really enjoy Dexter as a show is by not examining its plot any more closely than you'd examine your nude grand mother.
Putting the did she or didn't she conundrum aside, did Dexter and Debra willingly put in jail a girl who knows Dexter is a serial killer?
Another question: Hannah was confident they wouldn't find evidence about Sal Price. The lab tested his body for Aconite and found nothing. Yet it turns out she poisoned his pen with...aconite? How does that work?
This has been a pretty enjoyable season so far, but last night was not a good episode. We'll see how it ends. Oh, and Deb definitely did that to herself. What a stupid bitch.
Dexter: You know everything about me, now go to jail with my secrets!
Hannah: I love dexter and he is happy, back off please.
What hannah should of said: I know dexters secrets, I go to jail we all go to jail.
Deb: Hannah was at my house, she totally poisoned me! Ignore the fact that was 19 hours ago.
Dexter: hey man I need you to help me sell this cocaine.
Cops are on a coffee break instead of watching Jimenez...
those must have been the same cops watching isaak. dexter is just too slick to be seen. last nights ep was the worst of the season. too much BS
LaGuerta setup was good, Hannah and deb plot was terrible.
Not just the point Szila made had me in hysterics as the show ended but Hannah literally saying "You should have killed me!" to Dexter as Angel was 50 fucking centimetres away.
I can only presume his thought process is something like "Mmmmm roast pig, lobster, bacon ahhhhhhh *homer drool noise*" and he's almost completely oblivious to the outside world.
After last season I learned to turn my brain off during Dexter. That said, I'm really enjoying this season. It's nice to have shit collapsing in on Dexter. I honestly didn't see LaGuerta's trap with that paroled guy. I thought that was a nice twist.
Can someone recap the last 15 minutes? Right after Dex is telling her his suspicions at her place? Snowstorm cut out my dvr and I'm way too lazy to find another time it airs.
Oh and as others have stated, Deb totally pulled a Heseinberg... She probably threw some crushed up pills into her water bottle, drank some so it could be in her system, then conciously drove her car into the ditch to frame Hannah and get Dex on her side.
She probably broke her own wrist too, since rolling over a soft-top is usually fatal.
That shit went out the window when they did it to Isaak.
I wonder what the big cliffhanger will end up being this season. They renewed this season at the same time as the next so you know there will be an "Oh shit!" moment.
The LaGuerta setup was one of the most redeeming moments this season. Almost felt like old school Dexter for a moment. He's been way too safe the past couple seasons.
LaGuerta setup was really, really good and classic Dexter. But for the rest of the episode, it's like the writers said "hey wait a second, we haven't had many huge plot holes in the last few episodes. LETS PUT 30 IN ONE EPISODE!"
so debra risked death in order to frame hannah? come on, people.
i've actually laughed at how rushed everything is. they're trying to wrap up so many storylines at once.
Was loving this season entirely until this episode. I rationalize pretty much everything and continue to like this show season after season, but fuck them for following such an obvious plot device as Dexter turns on Hannah in defense of Deb. Shit was so obvious it was inconceivable that they would actually use it. And fuck them for not having Dexter run away with Hannah to Chile followed by a season of rabbit-fucking on each other's murder victim's corpses. How shit should have gone.
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If they brought back Doakes I would personally fly to LA and take a shit in their mailbox.
Her character is a walking Hispanic stereotype. Nothing more or less. Zero depth.
I'm guessing dexter is going to get arrested and goes to trial. The judge says his punishment and as he smacks down his mallet, Dexter wakes up. He passed out from the gas that was turned on in the cabin. Doakes walks in the front door, "Surprise Motherfucker!" The past 5 seasons were all just a dream. Finally it will be Doakes vs Dexter in an plot holed, explosions everywhere, incest galore final season!
I can't wait.
In the preview I saw they just show Doakes in the office and the 'surprise motherfucker' part doesn't match up with his lips at all. I'm sure it's just a flashback or something
Though him leaving the show and having nobody challenge Dexter for a while did hurt the show a bit, especially with how sloppy he's been
Some of you are looking way too hard at the preview. Previews are intentionally misleading and often contain new scenes that aren't even in the actual episode.
Also Deb did it to herself +1.
i swear if you guys were right and deb made herself drink knock out juice and then got onto the fucking highway to black out, risking innocent lives along with her own just to make dexter change his mind about hanna im going to donkey punch each and every one of you.
Deb doing highway stunts and then drinking her cool-aid is not a lot more stupid than Hannah noticing Deb drinks bottled water, sneaking into her house, noticing the anti-depressant and deciding to spike the water with the anti-depressant, hoping that, maybe, she will drink water before doing something dangerous so that maybe she will die as a result? All the while hoping Dexter, the forensics guy, will not find out about it?
Doakes is only coming back in ghost form ala Harry.
Whoever even entertains the slightest thought of Doakes really being alive is a god damned idiot. It's obvious it's a daydream or something. It's even more obvious than Isaak being gay.
It's also obvious that Deb spiked her own water. Whether she found some way to crash her car without her in it, then drink the water, or some clever highly-implausible scenario the writers come up with, she set it up herself.
Those two are facts. The third fact is that I'm gonna find Yvonne and have sex with her.
The only way im buying it was deb is if it was explained as a suicide attempt.deb wanting to kill herself makes a fuck more sense. She may have also wanted to kill herself and do it in such a way that it might lead to hanna. Except hanna only uses her poison plants to kill people, not scrip meds. dex should pick up on that
I mean c'mon, dexter is Batman. And it's a great show. But he's Batman.
Honestly I've liked every season for different reasons. The whole Miami metro is full of retards has never bothered me before, and I don't see why it should now. That's just a basic premise that allows the show to work. Batman can't be Batman without Gotham PD either being corrupt, bumbling, or supportive of him.
Deb did it to herself I'm pretty sure. Letting Hannah go was batshit crazy.
The La Guerta set up was pretty good though. Mixed feelings but overall I've liked this season more then the last few.
Deb did not do it to herself.
Just like Isaak isn't gay.
I could see how Deb could have done it to herself. If you look at the wrecked car, there's no apparent evidence of a major impact, and the passenger side appears to be untouched. If she rolled the car at a low rate of speed, say 20-30mph, it's plausible that she would survive with just an injured arm. At a higher rate of speed the car would have flipped more than once and would show much more damage. You can probably find how-to stunt driving vids on youtube or whatever.
Um, first post, lurker since '06. Sup?
I like this season. It's not season 1/2 quality, but at least it's not like season 6, that was fucking horrible. As others have said, even Dexter just cruising along is better than most shitty shows.
You have to realize that the physics of Dexter world are far different.
Ok calling this now.
Koshka brothers send some guys over to kill Quinn and Angel gets killed.
100% Deb did that to herself to fix Hannahs shit.
Am I the only member of team Deb? Hannah is a fucking biyatch.
deb has 0 ass. you can have her. and i think she did that to herself only if she tried to kill herself and it ended being non fatal and worked out it implicated hannah
I love them both.
so lets say deb staged her own accident. say she wasnt doped up. but just left the waterbottle on the floor so dexter would find it. then what? drove around for a good spot to total her car and expect to be fine because she was wearing her seatbelt and assumed she had functional airbags? did she not calculate that the car might catch fire? ya know because even a conscious person hanging upside down by a seatbelt with a broken wrist might have some difficulty exiting a burning car quickly.
You overestimate the dangers of having a controlled car crash.
You don't think you could control a car enough to roll it once maybe without really hurting yourself?
People get fucked up because their muscles aren't prepared for the sudden movements so they get whipped about bash their heads on shit and accidental crashes aren't measured in any way there is no telling how bad it will actually be because you arent pointing your car in a specific direction.
I think if you saw a little verge and decided to scratch your car up a little and roll into it you'd find it wasn't so tough.
um i drive a convertible too and the last fucking thing i would ever wanna do is find out how my car does in a rollover.
Deb said the night before right to Hannah's face that she would do ANYTHING to protect Dexter from Hannah - next day she's suddenly drugged up in an accident on the highway, implicating Hannah severely. Hannah even said to Dexter she's not stupid enough to think Dexter wouldn't figure out Deb suddenly dying/being drugged up. When Dexter shows up at the end of the episode to confront Hannah she's genuinely shocked he turned her in. Don't you think she'd be a *little* worried that he might figure it all out, after already accusing her? It's definitely Deb, and its annoying to think Dexter fell for it. And as for that meaning Deb risked innocent lives potentially, I guess so. There's no way of knowing how she managed the accident really unless she goes into details other then "I spiked my own drink" but I feel like that's going to be revealed next season early on which may pit Dex against Deb, or at the finale of this season.
im not saying that deb didnt fake her own accident. im not trying to pull an isaak here. im saying thats its so fucking stupid that no sane person would ever go to such dramatic lengths just to make their brother not like his GF. even a woman wouldnt be so stupid. there are so many things that could have gone wrong with her little plan. what if dex thought she really did black out on her meds and didnt bother following up on her car and finding the water to be analyzed? really why would he search the car for poison? and say that he did search the car for poison and in the accident and the towtruck recovery the tainted bottle fell out of the car or lodged somewhere that dex didnt see it? its just bad writing. there is no other way to say it.
I think she would have rolled the car then swigged the water personally.
Dexter's brain went to shit this season for some poon.
You watch too much redlettermedia tbh, they're just internet critics that pull apart everything to get views.
If everything was spot on exactly what happens in real life then it wouldn't be entertainment anymore it would be the news.
Dexter does what Dexter does, he goes looking for clues and finds out whudunnit.
He's this generations Jessica Fletcher.
admittedly im a huge red letter media fan and i do overanalyze everything. but come on, in this instance its just so blatantly obvious that nobody would ever do something like this. its about as ridiculous as rezzing doakes from the dead 3 years after the fact.
And Hannah isn't innocent of Jack shit. She poisons people at the drop of a hat and turns on the waterworks at a moments notice.
She's just the very best most realistic charming psychopath than Dexter has met so far and she has a fine bod.
Fuck no, Hannah is guilty as shit and according to the preview gets what is coming according to Dexters code. But it's 100% ouf of his code to turn her in just because of it.
Need to re-watch this episode I think...
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