It's an odd year, so the Giants will be total shit. I look forward to WS #4 in '16, however.
Spring training has begun, the season will be here in a couple weeks, time for a new thread.
ITT we discuss why the Royals will repeat as AL champs
I don't think Will Ferrel has a future in baseball, but it was still an entertaining day.
My favorite was the onscreen caption "traded to Cubs in the middle of the 3rd"
Milwaukee Brewers ban high fives to avoid spread of pink eye - ESPN
Does that also include selfhigh fives? BAAAAANNNNNGGG!
Rob Manfred will consider Pete Rose's request for reinstatement | Big League Stew - Yahoo Sports
I hope he lifts it. I think it's a joke that Charlie Hustle is banned. He may have bet on baseball but I'm pretty sure he didn't throw games, at least while he was playing. If you ever saw him play he was pretty damn competitive, which is why they called him Charlie Hustle.
Manfred has already approved Rose's involvement in the 2015 All-Star Game, which will be held in Cincinnati. That already seems like a major step for Rose, considering the lifetime ban.
I don't think they should let Pete be involved in baseball in anyway, but the man fucking deserves to be in the Hall no question.
Yes, it is a joke the Pete Rose isn't in the HOF. He is your all time hits leader for crying out loud. Put him in there and tell his story, including the gambling and ban. As far as his betting, I'm pretty sure he bet on his own team but the arguement is he could have used inside information about the other team when deciding to bet on his own team.
The single season and all time home run champion should also be in there and all of the other roiders. Can't just pretend an entire era of baseball didn't exist because you are embarrassed that you turned a blind eye to it in order to sell newspapers and/or get clicks (talking about the BBWAA here...).
Pete shouldnt be able to be a manger. That should never happen, but he should be able to go watch the damn Reds play if he wants. MLB wants him at the All-Star game in Cincy this year. If they want to do that, they might as well just lift the stupid ban.
anyways, like 2 weeks til the start of the season. cant wait.
bump for top rbi prospects also strongest team lineups? who you gotss
Not that I disagree on RBIs specifically, but I see people say that every classically recorded baseball stat is retarded.
I still don't understand the hype behind Kris Bryant. He seems almost like the exact carbon copy of Mike Olt, with a bit more power, but strikes out almost the an equal rate. I don't give a damn if he can hit the ball a mile like Mark Reynolds or Adam Dunn. If he is striking out nearly 30% in the minors he is going to have little to no chance at the major league level. And I don't quote his spring training numbers, Mousuckass 3 years ago hit nearly .400 with quite a few homers, but he couldn't hit Alexei Ramirez's body weight during the regular season.
San Francisco Giants to extend contracts for Brian Sabean, Bruce Bochy
Glad to see Bochy getting rewarded. I've had issues with Sabean but can't argue the results. Kind of surprised to see him handing over the GM roll though, maybe a quasi retirement for him?
The Giants announced Friday that Sabean has been promoted to executive vice president of baseball operations and will be replaced as general manager by Bobby Evans.
Those kinds of fans don't understand baseball though.
Here is a pretty good write up on the issues which includes links to some of the research that has been done on the subject, but this particular paragraph sums up the problem I've always had with "clutch" hitting regardless if it exists or not:
But now we need to consider clutch as an idea. The idea of clutch hitting is that some hitters perform better with the game on the line. But what does that say about those hitters in other situations? Are they not trying very hard? Do they only focus when the flashbulbs are going off? If you have the innate ability to will yourself to perform better, why donít you do that all the time?
The counter point is that clutch shouldnít really be defined by performing better in tight spots, it should be about not getting worse when the pressure is on. A clutch hitter is someone who maintains the normal faculties in high leverage spots rather than getting worse. This is still an empirical matter, but itís a more logically consistent one. Seeing a guy hit a home run in the 9th inning makes him appear clutch, but if he struck out four times before that, why didnít he use his clutch ability to perform better earlier?
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Again, said batter batting in the 3 slot gets a ton of RBI's....then slides down the 7 slot and doesn't get those opportunities as much doesn't mean he is any less clutch because he has no people to bat in. (Granted if you're batting .450 you'll probably be earlier in the order but the point stands. RBI's are a dumb metric because they are 80% dependent on those batting before you.)
Yeah RBI is a team stat and is generally a stupid way to evaluate a hitter.
While I agree that RBIs are entirely dependent on the hitters in front of you, I'd still take the hitter who bats .500 with RISP and .250 elsewhere, versus a hitter who consistently stays in the .320-.360 range. I also realize I don't get deep into the analytics of these scenarios, so the math may favor the guy who consistently bats .330.
Actually I would say the opposite, if a player truly is clutch you really shouldn't notice he's clutch, you should just think he is consistent.
These guys basically don't exist. Over the course of a career just about every single player will closely match their total career averages in these situations. The very few exceptions that are out there are more likely to be anomalies of sample size than they are due to some innate ability or inability to hit better with RISP (or other high leverage situations). We just get fooled as fan because of the small sample sizes of these situations a player faces season-to-season and our tendency to remember those moments where they did come through much more vividly.I'd still take the hitter who bats .500 with RISP and .250 elsewhere
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The way they build here in Chi-town, Wrigley Field's rebuild will be a never-ending event.
Sox going 162-0 book it.
Facts, not opinions.
Just another day for the Nats. Desmond blows a few plays for some unearned runs, the offense sucked balls again and it's a 3-1 loss.
Astros 2015 team of destiny!
Keuchel looking sharp so far. This ump's strike zone is ten shades of fucked up, though. Called a strike on the first pitch, and it was practically in the dirt.
I say that, then he walks 2 guys in this inning.
I don't know guys, the Mariners are trying this new thing called "scoring runs" this year. They must have read about it in Moneyball or something, I dunno but so far it is working for them. (Sorry if that is too sabermetric-y for you, most of the Seattle fans don't understand it either).
Royals looking fan-fucking-tastic. Really excited about rios with how he has been playing this spring and the first game. Hopefully going to be a huge comeback year for him
Fuck, even moose might hit over .210 this year! First opposite field home run of his career, maybe all the work he put into trying to beat the shift payed off
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If Moose could somehow just hit .250 with 20-25HR this year, it would be stellar.
And goddamn that Royals game was scary yesterday. Ventura just drops to the ground in excruciating pain clutching his throwing hand for no reason, Lorenzo Cain tries to leg-out an infield grounder to 1st, and slips on the bag and damn near sprains his ankle/breaks his leg. If those two guys had gone to the DL on opening day, the season would already be over for the Royals.
I definitely see a bench-clearing brawl between the White sox & Royals at some point this season, lot of bad blood just from this first game (Samardzija intentionally hitting Cain after a Moustakas HR)
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I feel old. Didn't realise till yesterday when he threw out the first pitch that Biggio has been retired 8 years now. Damn.
Highlight of my Astros fandom was my great grandparents having their anniversary at the dome in 1981 and someone with pull got Nolan Ryan to come up and wish them well right before the game started. I was 10 years old and will never forget. My great grandmother thought Ryan was gonna turn the franchise around. I still have pics somewhere of the big scoreboard in the dome with thier anniversary listed on it. Good times. I'll never forget her being almost 90 living alone and watching baseball on a little 12" black and white TV and being so happy about it.
My second was meeting Jose Cruz and talking to him one on one for about 5 minutes.
Man, I'll be excited if the Giants just make it through the end of the week without another injury. Not that I was expecting them to do anything until 2016 anyways but injuries are threatening to derail this season before it ever really gets started.
Astros lose 2-0, strike out 13 times. Sounds about right.
Royals must still think they are in the AL playoffs from last year. 2-0, 17 runs scored, 4HR (Royals didn't hit their 4th team HR last year until game #13)
I see Texas' offensive woes haven't improved.
Crazy that they were at Kauffman too, I don't know how many they hit there last year but it can't have been many.
Infante was the worst decision made in awhile though when they picked him up. What a trash player that they are paying out the nose for
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Infante is terrible. He needs to sit down and Christian Colon needs to take his spot at 2nd IMMEDIATELY. I've never in my life heard a stat like I heard during the game last night about Infante. This was roughly the 7th inning last night, and the announcer stated that 7 of Infante's 8 at-bats on the season so far had ended an inning(and the 8th was a mid-inning strikeout). Good lord that's bad. He is the ultimate rally-killer
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Nice start to the season with a Royals sweep of the White Sox. Most experts had them finishing ahead of us in our division this year, definitely helps to jump out with a 3 game lead over them.
Joey Votto is looking good. Hits the game-winning walk off hit last night and had the most important hit of today's game with a game-tying 2R HR. Starting out the season with a sweep of the Buccos has already surpassed my expectations of the season. Or maybe this is the best we'll see of the Reds this season.
Houston almost no-hit, struck out 16 times. Bidness as usual.
Lose by 10 one day, win by 9 the next... yay baseball.
Rangers confirmed snake bitten. Holland out 2 months.
So, the Royals are 2nd in the league in Runs, HR, Slugging, Average, and OPS...behind Detroit who is also in our division. That sucks. Both teams are 5-0 and already are 3 games up on 2nd place, the AL Central might end up being only a 2 horse race this year. Both teams are also like top 5 in every major pitching category...stupid Detroit.
And I know, it's way too early to proclaim anything. In Football terms, we're only at about halftime in the 1st game of the season.
Make that both are 6-0. Fucking Detroit
This year is the year of the Dodgers. Go blue!
Mets with a great battery
And a bit of (somewhat)interesting trivia
Royals rookie Paulo Orlando became the first player since triples started being recorded as a statistic in 1914 to get a triple as his first 3 major-league hits. He's 3 for 8 in 2 games, with 3 triples.
Paulo Orlando Stats, News, Pictures, Bio, Videos - Kansas City Royals - ESPN
Boston Red Sox Authentic Collection 1915 Turn Back The Clock On-Field 59FIFTY Game Cap - MLB.com Shop
"We're gonna sell some throwback hats this year, and our new line features an authentic Red Sox hat from a hundred years ago."
"The fans will love that! What does it look like?"
"Well, have you seen a hat?"
"It looks like a hat."
"Right, but is there a cool retro logo on it?"
"Nope, just a grayish-white hat."
"Is there anything to distinguish it as a Red Sox hat?"
"Not really, we added a symbol to the back that didn't exist back then and made it out of different material."
"So it's not authentic?"
"I guess not."
"How much are we gonna charge?
"I'd say $35 is fair."
"Okay, tell production to get started. Also, you're fired."
Twins an absolute dumpster fire. Holy crap.
I particularly enjoyed this series of events in the 8th inning of the Royals Vs Twins last night:
So basically, pitcher walks a batter, coach brings in new pitcher. Pitcher hits batter, coach brings in new pitcher. new pitcher hits ANOTHER batter. Next hitter hits a ground ball to short, SS boots it, everyone is safe. then after a few more runs score, pitcher throws a wild pitch/passed ball that advances runners to scoring position, then pitcher walks 2 more hitters, walking in a run.Kendrys Morales walks. Eric Hosmer to 2nd.
Coaching visit to mound.
Pitching Change: Brian Duensing replaces Tim Stauffer.
3.Alex Gordon hit by pitch. Eric Hosmer to 3rd. Kendrys Morales to 2nd.
Coaching visit to mound.
Pitching Change: J. R. Graham replaces Brian Duensing.
4.Alex Rios hit by pitch. Eric Hosmer scores. Kendrys Morales to 3rd. Alex Gordon to 2nd.
5.Salvador Perez reaches on a force attempt, fielding error by shortstop Danny Santana. Kendrys Morales scores. Alex Gordon to 3rd. Alex Rios to 2nd.
6.Omar Infante strikes out swinging.
7.Alcides Escobar singles on a line drive to right fielder Torii Hunter. Alex Gordon scores. Alex Rios scores. Salvador Perez to 2nd.
With Mike Moustakas batting, passed ball by Kurt Suzuki, Salvador Perez to 3rd. Alcides Escobar to 2nd.
8.Mike Moustakas walks.
9.Lorenzo Cain walks. Salvador Perez scores. Alcides Escobar to 3rd. Mike Moustakas to 2nd.
That's like a little league series of events, it was like watching the Keystone Cops out there. I'm just glad my team was on the good end of(we've seen our fair share of being on the bad end of it in recent years)
Goddamnit, time for the Royals to start retaliating for being hit constantly by pitchers
Alex Rios Fractures Left Hand MLB Trade Rumors
Royals have been HBP 12 times in 7 games so far. Not all intentional, but you don't get hit that many times without some of them being intentional. The ball that hit Rios was actually sailing right at his face when he flinched backwards just in time for it to hit his hand instead as he held his bat up.
Haha, the Red Sox fan.
lol, I didn't even notice the 2nd phone catastrophe until I watched it for about the 4th time
That old dude is a menace
haha at that gif. almost breaks 2 phones, chick gets a cold beer to the face. lol
The worst thing that happens is the beer getting spilled. Beer probably costs $10 in Fenway.
Hell, beers cost $10 here in the Midwest, I assumed they were $15-$20 in Boston/NY
Was $9 for 16oz in Cincinnati. Didn't go at all last year but I assume it's still similar.
Boston prices definitely hurt.
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Damn it's $11 or $12 at O.Co. And that stadium sucks. That's also a really big beer of solid craft.
It was spring training but still. The fact the Reddick had two of these in the same game is pretty crazy.
Royals gonna start running out of players and coaches if the ejection trend keeps going up. They were all pretty bullshit though, no A's ejected and they are the ones that hit the most batters
Paulo Orlando on pace for 62 triples! 71% of his hits are triples! Haha. I know there'll be a regression to the mean but what freakish triple production from him.
Don't fuck with the A's.
So the whole Ventura thing is bullshit. He shouldn't have been ejected and he definitely shouldn't be fined. There were no warnings up to that point and it was one pitch against a player who intentionally injured a player the game before.
Herrera probably should get a suspension, but I think 5 games is excessive. 3 games would have been about right.
It's just bullshit because the royals have been hit by pitches in very similar circumstances and not a god damned thing happened. MLB seriously needs to look into the whole breaking up double plays by sliding way outside of the natural path to plant your spikes in the players knee.
This Reds-Brewers game is wild. Reds have hit HRs in five consecutive innings with two grand slams. Three grand slams total in the game. Reds are only up 16-10. This is the amount of runs the Reds will need to score when Marquis starts because he's fucking awful and the bullpen might even be worse.
So there is this: Barry Bonds' obstruction conviction thrown out by appeals court
What has always been so upsetting to me about Bonds is that he was on pace to legitimately be the greatest player to ever play the game long before using the cream and the clear. An actual 5 tool player, the ONLY member of the 500/500 club (and there isn't even anyone in the 400/400 club) and probably would have still had a shot at the all time home run mark without the PEDs. If he would have stayed off the PEDs he might not have set the single season HR mark, but would have gone down as the greatest player to ever play the game.
*edit: Also it is a joke that he and the other accused PED users aren't in the HOF. BBWAA members were more than happy to cash their paychecks no questions asked during the steroid era and now they want to act all high and mighty? Fuck them. Put in the PED users and make sure you tell the story of the era in the HOF. Rose should be in too.
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Things might be turning around for Rose. He's been invited to participate in all the All Star festivities. First MLB thing he's been invited to since the ban.
Pete Rose Jim Gray interview 1999 ALL CENTURY TEAM full clip - YouTube
While I am more so lenient with the HGH issue(s) because, as an ex college player, the stuff was rampant even at that level during those mid 90s days as the NCAA did not consider HGH a violation back then. That said, I am about as certain as a person can be, without having proof, that it was rampant during those days up and down the high levels so to pinpoint a few, especially those specific guys, who were overly outstanding anyhow, seems ridiculous to me. Look how fast Smoltz (one of my favorites as a kid) bounced back from that devastating surgery which has kept out... shit... the majority of those who had it (Tommy John). Sure this could just have been due to a viable regiment but, in my eyes and with how fast the turn around was, I'm sure it was aided like nearly every single other injured player during the time.
The issue I have comes with people like Sosa who played the "I don't speak English" card while visibly speaking it in pre/post game interviews and I sure as hell have issue with the Federal Government being involved with any of it. All that said though, Bonds, ARod (as much as I hate to say it), Palmeiro, etc. Those guys were excellent anyhow and if a large portion of a league is using said substance but the same usual suspects are doing it and still playing better than the rest of the field then that says a lot. Bonds was incredible, plain and simple. The guy could be walked 3 times and still come up in his fourth at bat and launch a missile into the bay. He was also one of the better defensive players I have seen and had numerous Gold Gloves. He, quite literally, could do it all, run, field, throw, hit, hit for power, and come up in big moments. The guy was a beast in Pittsburgh too and his entire career just was outstanding. To keep him out is appalling, at best.
Rose, on the other hand, I just can't get behind. Do I believe a guy with his numbers and (in game) mentality deserves to be in the Hall? Not even a single question in my mind. However, the guy willingly set up his lineups to account for his bets and, in doing so, harmed the game with his behavior, the fans, and the credibility of MLB. I wish I could get behind him, I really do, but I draw the line at the point where his decisions directly impacted the results of multitudes of games. Technically he is in the Hall already as those records are there with his pictures and I consider his hit total something that will never be touched. Hell... as great as Jeter was and, especially, as healthy as he was for many seasons, even he wasn't even remotely close to it.
This (the bolded) is the most important aspect to me about the Rose issue:
5. Voting: Voting shall be based upon the player's record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played.
We (society) have to not give passes when it comes to issues of integrity when the violation was considerable. Can we forgive? Absolutely, of course. Should we award? No, I simply cannot get behind that for Rose.
One note on Jeter, I think if he didn't lose almost 2 years due to his ankle issues, he probably would of kept playing to make an attempt on the record.
Jeter - 3465 (19 seasons - 2 seasons under 20 games)
I agree with you that Jeter would have made a viable run for that record had he stayed healthy. Looking at Rose' statistics, it is incredible, it really is. He obviously missed games here and there but the amount is extremely low. It wasn't until 20+ years in the league that he didn't put in at least 100 games. That is remarkable. However, what is the most remarkable is that the guy has the most plate appearances in Major League history (15890) and still finished with an average over 300.
If Shoeless Joe Jackson is given a plaque I think the goober reporters who, for some reason, are fully responsible to vote for this award, would be closer to thinking seriously about Rose but, as it stands, I don't think he will see the Hall in his lifetime. I think the bigger catastrophe right now is Bonds. There is no hard proof he did a single thing (but yes, I do believe he did, of course) but because he didn't give the reporters much (if any) time when a player they are screwing him in a major way. That is ridiculous to me.
The whole PED/Steroid issue and keeping guys out of the HOF because of it is going to go away eventually, it'll just take time. Just like how when the baseball season expanded from 154 games to 162, new records had an asterisk next to them for several years, they kept records for both eras, not really acknowledging the 162-game record as the real record.
edit - after some googling, MLB kept no official records back in that era, it was up to 3rd party publications, and some kept 2 records/asterisks for quite a while, and some didn't.
I still think those guys will all eventually get into the HOF, it's just going to take a few years, it might be a decade from now before it happens.
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