Serious lack of Joey "Coco" Diaz.
The Joe Rogan Experience is probably my favorite podcast due to Joe's wide variety of guests. For example guests range from Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson to Comedian Bobby Lee, from Comedian Joey "CoCo" Diaz to Quantam Physicist Dr. Amit Goswami. To say the least it is a very eclectic group of guests, not every show is award winning but Joe does a pretty good job of consistently keeping the conversation flowing and for the most part you can walk away from each episode with a new view point, fact or anecdote that you did not have before.
Is Joe Rogan a genius that has the answer to everything? No. Does he say some outlandish shit from time to time? Yes. Is he open minded and willing to have a fact based conversation? Yes. Is he willing to have his opinion or stance change based on that conversation? Yes, and that is why he is entertaining to me.
I think Joe has one of the healthiest mental outlooks on life you can ask for from anybody, let alone a celebrity. I know his overall message of "peace and love" can come off as a little hippy-ish but it is well intended and can certainly help you look at topics from other people's perspective.
PowerfulJRE - YouTube
Joe Rogan Experience Google Play Store
iTunes - Podcasts - The Joe Rogan Experience by Joe Rogan
Joe Rogan - joerogan.net
Here are a few of my favorite Episodes:
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Serious lack of Joey "Coco" Diaz.
I listened to him on The Nerdist and on something else WTF maybe, and he really wasn't what I expected. So I checked out the episode of his podcast with Brian Cox which was awesome. I can't imagine listening to him regularly because he seems to really do a lot of obscure comedians I don't know and a lot of MMA stuff but I am staying subscribed anyway.
I've listened to hundreds of JRE, as anyone that workouts knows JRE delivers on material. However since i have near zero interest in MMA (aside from ronda rousey, cuz of the podcast), these MMA guests and recently theres a special MMA edition where they comment on fights as well, i pretty much skip. Most of the MMA guys are just "i grapple him, then he grapples me, for hours and hours, so i just skip those podcasts"
Anyone tried branching out from the JRE with guests?
I think one of the musts, is Dan Carlin
i was severly disappointed with Cara Santa Maria(i think it's cuz her podcast guests are boring as nails)
Busy with the family right now, but I totally planned on making a Dan Carlin Hardcore History and Dan Carlin Common Sense thread later tonight or tomorrow.
Aside from the most important guest to branch out to which you mentioned, Dan Carlin (arguably the best podcaster out there), Bert Kreischer has his own cast called Bertcast where he recently interviewed Peter Jackson, Bill Burr's Monday Morning podcast is hilarious.
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I don't subscribe to the podcast, but I have listened to quite a few of them. His conversations with Sam Harris are great.
I like Joe's podcast, but I don't listen to every single one of them. Sometimes that Brian kid is so retarded and awkward it's hard to listen to.
The first Kevin Pereira episode was one of the most entertaining. I think I found the right one on youtube:
i was on a big kick listening to every thing joe put out and a bunch of shows on brian's network for a few years, but after joe and brian had a little tiff
and he stopped having him on certain shows, i stopped listening.
Brian is a retard but he did a lot of stuff that is funny to hear about. Joe gathers up maybe 1 new story a month and rehashes it a dozen times with different people.
HA, if you want to hear true angst, just listen to when Jaime is asked by joe to explain it to them (since Jaime is a photographer) and you could just hear Jaime pause and think, "how the fuck am i supposed to be all technical with these 3 retards".
But yea, the exchange between Brian and Jaime was pretty embarrassing, like that's Joe's new favorite, GTFO of here.
I feel like Joe's relationship with Redban exemplifies Joe's overall outlook on life. Joe does not punish Redban for his social retardation, he embarrasses it and finds the funny. Joe tries very hard to find the good in everyone and everything. He is a better person than me because I might choked the suit out of Redban by now.
All that said, Joe has realized Redban has no business being on certain episodes and thus has only included Redban when deemed appropriate.
Well Joe will also not call out any comedian friend, which i guess, you kinda have to (being actual friends and all). Recent example that comes to mind is praising Kevin James for being funny.
I used to like Rogan a whole lot more but in recent history he has become an old man. Where once he was open minded and scalding everyone who wasn't, he has now turned into the knowitall old dude nobody likes. Especially his MMA commentary on the UFC broadcasts has become almost unbearable to watch & listen to, since he is getting more and more biased and subjective, and he likes to "have the back of his friends" which is a good thing for his friends, unless you are Brendan Schaub then I guess you are fair game, but also becomes increasingly harder as he "gets to know" more and more people in the scene.
His standup has become quite stale, but I still like it.
His podcasts have also become less and less fun to listen to. The biggest problem is that he is quite repetitive, especially for loyal listeners, since he likes to recycle the same material over and over again. He has some special guests he will always reinvite and they will basically talk about the same thing EVERY single time. Like Steven Rinella with his hunting stuff (I love MeatEater, but on the podcasts they both are the most boring people ever) or when he invites MMA guests he will always harp on the same issues.
And I guess by now we ALL know that he's ONNIT (get it? ). I really liked it a whole lot more when they were still being sponsored by Fleshlight, and there would always be a lot of fun in the commercial section of the podcasts, whereas today it is 100% self promotion for his silly website (There are hundreds of websites out there that sell the exactly same stuff so there really is nothing special about Onnit).
At least he got over himself a tiny bit, and stops talking every single one of his guests into making his own podcast.
who cares who he's sponsored by, skip the 5min intro ads, at least now he's gotten lazy and kept the intro ads to 5mins and doesn't try to spin them up every podcast.
So far imo, he's one of the few podcasts that only has a beginning and end commercial, like 99% of them all seem to insert a commercial or 3 in the middle, and no, obviously these podcasts have to be funded, so yes it's cool they are sponsored, just that with JRE now you know where you can skip.
And yes, a subject that is tired like hunting/ steve Rinella is very much boring ass. It's not like next month there will be a new development or epiphany in the world of hunting or steve rinella, as opposed to neil tyson's world.
He really shouldn't have those limited people in those podcasts, at least not multiple times every 2 months.
yea i find callen and sclub intolerable now. it's always callen bullshitting a story up to 11 or bullshitting a story from "his buddy, his buddy" to 11 and sclub talking like a half retard.
That would be the extreme case of Rogans bias, with the mma shit and his friend, that recent podcast with those 2 idiots was a waste.
And no, he doesn't stop with the "get your own podcast man", he just did that to bert and told him to podcast everyone of his dreams.
Listened to JRE for quite a while. This podcast single handily kick-started my weight loss. Introduced me to Dave Asprey (I know I know) as well as just his general fitness schtick, BJJ, and wellness eventually makes you want to go work out and do better for yourself. Outside of that, good comedic guests like Diaz and any episode with Shane Smith from Vice is great.
I stopped listening a while back because...something annoyed me about Joe. I don't quite remember. Basically, I think he was on a streak of being wrong about stuff but still defending himself to the death.
I usually only listen to it if I am doing something at work that doesn't require concentration, but I purposely avoid the ones where he talks to car guys, hunting guys, or professional podcasters. I generally find comedians to be his best guests as long as they are friends with joe, if not they usually end up playing the sycophant (which is what other proffessional podcasters tend to do) or trying to sound way smarter than they are. I also like when he interviews legit scientists like Neil Tyson DeGrasse, Rupert Sheldrake, Graham Hancock (journalist?), Randal Carlson, etc.
He can get really testy at odd times, in the recent podcast with Billy Corben he basically scolded Billy for "speculating" on what it's like to raise kids because he doesn't have one, during their retarded nurture vs. nature argument, and ended up agreeing with him in the end.
But I agree with you in that the podcast is great for inspiring you to improve yourself, especially the episodes with Duncan. I couldn't stand his voice at first, but damn is that one positive dude.
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The problem I have with Joe... He's a really intelligent guy. Really smart. But he stops looking for the answers when he thinks he already has them, and then goes out to try to find information that confirms what he wants to believe. If he's confronted with sufficient evidence, directly, he will change his mind. Wouldn't it be better, though, if he didn't just stop looking when he found what he wanted to know, instead of finding the actual facts?
Or at least he used to be able to change his mind. I dunno. Haven't listened to him in years.
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SGI Mission - Sacred Geometry International
Yikes. Yeah, that is definitely one of the problems with Rogan. You can listen to him talking to Sam Harris or NDT and it leads to a cool conversation. However, then he has an interview with a quack and he gives that person just as much credit and prestige. Kinda sad.
You're dead wrong about Rupert Sheldrake, though; he is about as legitimate as anyone could hope for. He has a PhD in biochemistry, has been doing scientific research for over 50 years, and his website has links to about 80 of his articles that have been published.
Also, wtf is 'woo' ?
Urban Dictionary: woo woo
Sheldrake certainly has credentials and is well spoken, however his morphic resonance idea is totally reaching. I had to turn off that podcast halfway through as he goes on and on about the ramifications of something totally unproven.
as boring as ever, just those 2 spouting off alpha brain, trips and shit like always.
Jerry Coyne has some pretty good stuff on why Sheldrake is full of shit. Being a "trained scientist" means nothing.
Rupert Sheldrake Why Evolution Is True
The Guardian touts Sheldrake again: pigeons find their way home, ergo Jesus Why Evolution Is True
Rupert Sheldrake peddles his woo to Americans Why Evolution Is True
lol You didn't even read them, did you?
The Rupert Sheldrake shit is memory gets passed down right? You might as well believe in ESP, ghosts and shit then.
Just cuz he has a PHD in bio-chem, a degree he earned before i was born, and i'm 35, doesn't really mean shit. Cuz that's 40 year old science he got that PHD on.
Was his stuff about the the dead rats, mazes and dogs know when you come home?
He refers to the huffington post as Puffho and includes colorul customized memes in his writting to illustrate how scientific he really is and Sheldrak really isn't. And for some reason he keeps harping on Sheldrake making arguments for God. I have not read all of his stuff so I can't speak for 100% of what he has published, but I have read The Science Delusion and IIRC, he never even mentions God, let alone makes an argument that there is one. That book up can be summed up by this simple argument:Originally Posted by Jerry Coyne
IF you are a materialist AND you are either unwilling or unable to answer *these* questions (as laid out at the end of each chapter), THEN you are being dogmatic, which in his view is unscientific.
Regardless, you can't go around saying a guy like Rupert Sheldrake isn't a legitimate scientist and when challenged, respond with 3 links to the same wordpress blog written by a guy who writes like a columnist on The Blaze. Unless, of course, yours isn't just a clever name.
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I have listened to Rogan's podcast a few times when he had a guest I wanted to hear but I felt that it was too long (are they still 3 hours long?) and his combination of pothead and meathead was a little much for me to take. Also I have no interest in MMA.
I have listened to every one of Dan Carlin's podcasts since I found out about him 7 years ago and I dearly love that man but I really wish he could get his show out a little more regularly.
Rupert Sheldrake - RationalWiki
The Science Delusion by Rupert Sheldrake | Issue 93 | Philosophy Now
The Problems with Rupert Sheldrakes Soapbox
The problem with Sheldrake, and all the other woo-merchants out there, are that they LOVE to propose ideas. But when it actually comes down to the hard stuff... you know, actually proving anything. They're nowhere to be found. But they still make grand proclamations about how all the rest of science is wrong and they're right. But, you know, without evidence to back up anything they say. Rupert Sheldrake is no better than Deepak Chopra with his Furry-level misunderstandings of quantum mechanics.
Give me evidence. Then I'll give a shit about what Sheldrake says. And if all you can do is wave your hands and say, "But science is dogmatic!" Then I say, "If following the process and basing arguments on established fact and observation is dogma, call me fucking dogmatic." Until you can prove anything otherwise, shut the fuck up.
Yeah. Just throw out arguments because you personally don't like the source. That's reasonable.
I found the JRE a great podcast to listen to in the background, or if I don't want to listen to any of my audiobooks while driving. I could easily turn it down without having to pause it, and I never felt like I was missing TOO much.
How is it a shit site if the arguments it puts forward hold merit?
EDIT: Woops I screwed up, here is the correct clip.
If you have kids and are on the fence about spanking I think this episode is great.
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What the actual fuck?
For all the people being so dismissive of Joe and his guests I believe you might be missing the point. Joe has stated time and time again the he does not have all the answers he just likes having the conversations and exploring ideas and theories. Just because he has said some crazy stupid shit does not mean everything he has said is crazy and stupid. I think Brian Dunning does a good job of getting to who and what Joe is all about.
Full post here: Why I Left Joe Rogan on My List of Celebrities Promoting Pseudoscience | SkeptoidI want to be clear that there is (for my part at least) not the slightest bit of bad blood between us. Joe is friendly, funny, cool, and just plain-old the kind of guy you want to hang out with. From beginning to end, he has been fair, straight, and honest with me. After the show, we hung out at his awesome studio for half an hour, had beer and chatted. We came away with some disagreements, and disagreements are exactly the reason that good, productive discussion takes place. Disagreement is undervalued. For what disagreements I have with Joe, I value them, and like him personally at the same time. If the rest of this blog sounds like I’m attacking his views, then consider it to be the productive exploration of disagreement.
Regarding Randall Carlson...
Responses to comments made about Joe Rogan Podcast - An open letter to a critic on the matter of chevrons, megatsunamis and bolide impacts. - Sacred Geometry International
The letter is too long to copy and paste but here is are two parts that I found interesting:
And later...Recently I did a podcast with Joe Rogan. In our wide ranging discussion we covered a lot of material. As pleased as I was by the positive response of many in the listeners, I also appreciate and welcome criticism and open minded debate. I do not pretend to have the final truth on anything, I only know that it is fair to question everything and to go where the evidence leads us, in the assumption that science, ultimately, is a search for truth.
I am addressing this response to one issue raised regarding remarks about possible mega-tsunami deposits that I brought up during the podcast. It is my impression after investing a fair amount of time researching this phenomenon that it warrants serious consideration, especially in light of what we have witnessed during the past decade, two tsunami induced mega-disasters in Japan and the Indian Ocean. Several comments were particularly dismissive, so I am setting down this small exposition, without malice, to demonstrate that the remarks made on The Joe Rogan Experience were preceded by a substantial amount of background research and thought. While the following remarks pertain to this one issue specifically, they are also relevant to the general attitude evinced in many of the other comments critical of something I said that are obviously being made by individuals whose preconceived opinions were incompatible with the information I presented and their objections were nothing more than a knee jerk emotional response rather than a reasoned critique with some actual thought behind it.
Here is a comment posted by someone who took issue with my remarks about the possible mega-tsunami deposits in Madagascar. I choose this posting to respond to for two reasons. First of all it allows me the opportunity to elaborate in more detail regarding this important question of the reality of mega-tsunamis, not only to our past but to our future, and the posting also displays one of the most common of logical fallacies in critical thinking, the “appeal to authority.” Disregarding the obvious attitude of cynicism, this is what Mary Kay Dunn had to say:
Mary K. Dunn Comment
First of all let’s dispose of the appeal to authority canard. I have no doubt that Joanne Bourgeois, whose work is the subject of the linked article, is a “real scientist.” In fact, I have a great deal of admiration for her work and have read a number of her papers, including her 2009 paper in Geology taking issue with the mega-tsunami hypothesis of Dallas Abbot and others. The statement is made by the Ms. Dunn that “real scientists” have discredited the mega-tsunami hypothesis. My first thought is this: How easy it has become these days to simply link to a website presenting one side of a scientific debate and then presumptuously assume that the matter is settled. Then follows an egregiously over generalized statement about Joe Rogan “fans.” Certainly it is true that some of the world’s scientists are bought off by one of two political sides, a blatant case in point being many of the scientists employed by the IPCC. However, it should be emphasized that there are many scientists who retain their independence and credibility, and it is probably true that some Joe Rogan fans believe in conspiracies of one sort or another but it has become apparent to me that many of them are willing to look without prejudice at the facts, and I would say this goes for Joe himself. Let it also be stated that as far as conspiracies go, there are definitely real ones. History itself is basically a history of conspiracies. Anyone who thinks that those who covet power do not conspire to retain and expand that power, or that they would not subordinate science to that end, is suffering from excessive naivety, however, all this is a total non sequitur anyway in reference to the subject at hand.
So, as to the question of “real scientists” here are just a few of the professionals who first proposed and have continued to endorse the idea of mega-tsunami generated chevrons:
Dieter Kelletat, Ph.D: Retired as head of the Dept. of Physical Geography, University of Cologne, expert in Quaternary Geomorphology, author of the Atlas of coastal geomorphology and zonality and numerous scientific publications and collaborations.
Dallas Abbott, Ph.D: Research scientist at Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University, Ph.D. in Marine Geology, author or co-author of over 120 peer-reviewed scientific papers. Author of Chevron Dunes in Madagascar: The Most Spectacular Tsunami Deposits on Earth published in the proceedings of the Aerospace Conference, 2000 IEEE
Dee Breger: Manager of Lamont Doherty Scanning Electron Microscope Facility, participant in more than 30 land based and oceanographic expeditions. Expert in analysis of microscale evidence of cosmic impact.
Viacheslav Gusiakov Ph.D, : Head of the Tsunami Laboratory, Institute of Computational Mathematics and Mathematical Geophysics, Novosibirsk, Russia, responsible for developing the Historical Tsunami Database for the World Ocean
Anja Scheffers Ph.D,: Southern Cross University, Associate Professor of Geoscience, expert in coastal evolution, sea-level change and marine natural hazards. See Curriculum Vitae here: tsun.sscc.ru/hiwg/SCHEFFERS.htm. Author or co-author of at least 42 peer reviewed scientific papers. Is considered by her colleagues to be a chevron expert.
There are more but I think you get the point.
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That's why I like Joe. He just has interesting conversations. He can spend 45 minutes talking about some crazy idea as if he truly believes it and then end it with "this clearly bullshit and I'm talking out of my ass, but it's fun to talk about". He's a total bro.
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One of the pro's and con's of JRE is that he finds ppl to talk to that interest him and he has questions for, like last year he had a podcast w/ some coffee guy, that was some good shit. But as well know, he's into MMA, and a lot of these MMA guests are only that, MMA guests, and he has a lot of MMA guests.
the start of the year he's had 5 MMA guests and 2 fight companions
But introducing us to new ppl, thats cool.
I mean if there aren't any new podcasts from other sources, then i'll begrudgingly listen to a new MMA focused one when i workout, and the worst podcasts are usually the MMA ones, b/c again low quality guests, all they talk about is rolling around.
So, you don't know shit about what you're talking about. Got it.
It is hard to imagine the host of Fear Factor and a commentator for the UFC could have anything really interesting to say, but the JRE is an incredible podcast. He says he is an ambassador between the meatheads and the potheads, which is an apt description. His topics range from dick humor and people beating the fuck out of each other, to philosophical discussions on the subjective nature of reality or transhumanism. Listening to his inspirational monologues helped me through the tough parts of grad school and inspired me to start training jiu-jitsu in my 30s. I'm now in the best shape of my life and have an altered view on my interactions with people day to day. Not bad for a guy who once hosted a show that was called the "end of civilization as we know it".
So much anger guys...Joe would not approve.
By the way, Joey Diaz was on "This is not happening".
I don't really know Howard Stern, so I don't know if he is fucking with them or whatever, but that whole thing does sound like he is pretty out of touch. He talks about terrestrial radio as having an audience. Bro, in 1985 sure, but that isn't the case anymore. Podcasting has a much wider potential reach, and definitely has the capability to fill niches much better. I mean, I'm not an industry expert, maybe I'm mistaken. I just can't think of a single big radio star anymore, and never listen to talk radio anymore now that I have podcasts. Really seems like he's full of shit though.
Stern is probably super happy that Ari responded as he did, as it drew a lot of attention to their little fight, and indirectly through that, attention to Howard Stern.
Yeah Howard Stern is really out of touch, LMAO....I don't really know Howard Stern, so I don't know if he is fucking with them or whatever, but that whole thing does sound like he is pretty out of touch.
Just an FYI he makes 70+ million a year just on radio in a half a billion deal, and was the highest paid tv personality at 95 million in 012-013. That's not even factoring all the other stuff he produces.
You are vastly under estimating his viewing audience.
I think you are out of touch.... Must be all those Podcast billionaires out there haha
The internet was a thing? what are you Al Gore...
Look at the top 25 Radio Personalities, they eclipse any audience being done in podcasts currently. Almost all political talk shows FYI, and are all rated in the top 20 most influential people in america..
I'm sure big sponsors are lining up to get as little a market share as possible....
Need to change your name back to Dr Retard
why? seems like most of the guests were ari's friends, and you know as friends go, some are good some are horrible, like bobby lee, is as terrible as always, the ugly guy from "the league" boring, boring spanish girl
So to say that there is no market to be reached through Podcasts is pretty false I would say.
He never said that there was no market for podcasts... He said if you want to make some real money that he should try to do what Opie and Anthony obviously are very successful with.
Ari isn't funny anyway so who cares what he does. I'm surprised Howard gave him any attention
other than Howard and Opie/Jim, what other comedic radio show hosts are popular?
Wow , you really are out of touch. There are Howard Stern wanna bees in almost every major city right now. Except they suck so no one gives a shitNobody is following the Howard Stern model for broadcast success anymore because it is a different market.
You know the whole Shock Jock thing....
What path did he lay out exactly? He went on radio and dominated the viewership... Same thing Rush Limbaugh did etc, and there are plenty of broadcasters that would love to have that live audience everyday with the money they bring in.
You are absolutely clueless, let me phone up Rush right now ,and tell him it's a different market he should start doing podcasts lmao
Yeah I don't understand what you are saying. in 30+ years there have been what, two non-political shows that hit success like Stern did on terrestrial radio? Other than Opie and Anthony, who else followed that model? You're saying there are tons of these guys, that apparently no one has heard of and aren't successful at all. You're pointing out Rush, yet again a guy who did this 30 years ago. I really don't know, it doesn't seem like the past decade is filled with people who just killed it using Stern's model (the model he laid out in the very video in this thread jackass). It pretty much seems like the exact opposite has happened, and no one is achieving any level of national (much less international) success using terrestrial radio, which was his whole point.
Of course, do you even live in the USA? We listen to those ass hats everyday with their stupid prank phone calls, and shit. How do you think Howard Stern started?? He was a disc jockey that would make some funny remarks, and it grew into a show. He didn't start as a stand up comedian... Also he had plenty of big competition, and the FCC all over him constantly.Other than Opie and Anthony, who else followed that model? You're saying there are tons of these guys, that apparently no one has heard of and aren't successful at all.
FYI XM has allot of shows right now in talk radio. Just because no one has reached Marvel and DC levels doesn't meen the other comic book companies don't exist...
The people that are super successful on podcasts would be even more successful on XM. Joe Rogan, Adam Corrola, etc. That audience for live radio is huge...
Take the TWIT network for instance, an all podcast show.
They were originally TechTV, and syndicated making millions each year with real sponsors. Now they make peanuts doing the same shows, and we already know they dont get quality sponsors anymore.
Like 90% of the podcasts out there don't even have sponsors. They are doing it for nothing. The other 10% have guys like Sofia chicken and Ribs on highway 10 giving them 1000 a month for a spot, lol.
Your argument is invalid until the sponsors start shelling out millions for those podcasts. If David Chappelle announced today he was going to do a radio show on XM, and it was actually good he would be the next big thing.
The reason they don't? because it's too much work to do live radio everyday when they can do one TV show and make the same money.
The point Howard was making is you have your audience now through podcasts why are you still working for peanuts?? Give radio a shot, and see if you are really as good as you say you are because obviously that is where the real money is.
When Howard said if I had to resort to doing podcasts I would quit that is no joke...
Except he was specifically talking about his level of fame. Clearly there is no one on his level doing podcasts. There are also only like 2-3 people on his level doing any kind of radio. Like 4-5 times during this conversation I or someone have asked you who else is successful on this level other than Opie and ANtony and you just keep going "LOL FOR REAL GUYZ WHO IS THIS GUY?" What argument do you have me making in your head? I've tried to spell it out as simply as I can for you, no one is doing today what Stern did in the 80s and having success with it like he did. It isn't happening. You, the champion of "shock jock" radio, can't even name one. You're saying "give radio a shot because that's where the money is" except it isn't. Except the only people I could actually name on the radio are leaving it for podcasts, XM, or tv. Maybe politics is still holding it down on the radio, idk. Stern sure the fuck isn't, he bailed to satellite. But I thought the money was in terrestrial radio? He's making more money than god now, based on a 30 year career started when the market was completely different. Carolla left radio because he was getting carpal tunnel from signing all those checks? doubtful.
And dude, TechTV was shut the fuck down due to low ratings. That is like the exact model for internet success. They are able to cater to a niche where before they had corporate overlords to answer to that didn't understand "well we have a loyal following". "Don't get quality sponsors anymore"... dude, those people are making more money now than they ever did on TechTV, the only difference is that they are servicing their audience more directly and there isn't Comcast behind them fucking everything up.
Opie and Anthony started in 95.... and Before Stern there was Imus etc... Hey Opie and Anthony you should quit right now you have no chance against Stern!
Stern bailed to satellite for the money. He put together a half a billion dollar deal at the tale end of his career. He works like 4 times a week max as opposed to working everyday on public radio, and his show can't be banned in sections of the country like some states would do to him constantly.
Your whole argument that no big comedian has taken over from stern, and Opie and Anthony is invalid. What comedian has tried?
There is peanuts in podcasting, and real sponsors in radio. That's a fact..
I win another conversation thanks for playing, grandpa..
FYI attempt to use paragraphs, k thx
I love how you just make shit up. TechTV was bought out, merged then consolidated to G4tv. Has nothing to do with ratings, it was a cable station anyway haha.And dude, TechTV was shut the fuck down due to low ratings. That is like the exact model for internet success. They are able to cater to a niche where before they had corporate overlords to answer to that didn't understand "well we have a loyal following". "Don't get quality sponsors anymore"... dude, those people are making more money now than they ever did on TechTV, the only difference is that they are servicing their audience more directly and there isn't Comcast behind them fucking everything up.
And making more money then they were before?? hahaha. I'd love to see you prove it. Leo makes a lion share of his money now from syndicating a portion of his show to other vendors. He admitted that as of last week. You can tell just by the sponsors he has that they aren't making much.Vulcan Ventures sold TechTV to G4 Media (owned primarily by Comcast), which merged it with the video game channel G4 in May 2004 to form G4techTV. In February 2005, the name was changed back to G4, eliminating TechTV from the name completely.
FYI Those kids on that show almost all have 2nd jobs in the tech sector, and journalism. Why is that you think? hmmm
Leo's tech guy show? last time i heard he said he made $350k per year doing that, while the twit network was making over $5 million in profits
surely his cut is more than that
not listened to him in a long time after some firings and hires i didn't care for.
So lets quit now, it can't be done...but clearly Opie ,and Anthony did it against Stern, Imus, and all the other Political radio hosts that dominate those bracketsClearly there is no one on his level doing podcasts. There are also only like 2-3 people on his level doing any kind of radio.
So in the past 20 years, no new shows. Got it.
You should really read up, Leo has talked plenty on what happened with TechTV, the contract renegotiation, the proposed programming changes, staffing changes, etc. All brought about due to relatively low ratings leading whatever subsidiary of Comcast to combine G4 and TechTV.
I don't know about you, Column. You're literally having a circular argument with yourself. When people complain about you shitposting and I ignore the reports, is this what it's like?
They didn't want old farts like Leo around anymore, and hence the bad blood.
And in 20 years what major comedian has tried to topple Stern? name one... You are saying no one can do it, and yet at the height of Sterns career during the 90s Opie and Anthony said yes we can, or get close.
O here we go, the mods about to infract because hes losing a debate. Always got to make sure everyone knows you are posting as a mod right?I don't know about you, Column. You're literally having a circular argument with yourself. When people complain about you shitposting and I ignore the reports, is this what it's like?
Thought only Tarrant did that. Maybe Suineg is right after all
Why do you mods even bother to argue in threads if it always comes down to the same pussy shit Sean would always pull in the gaming thread...
Bro I'm not losing, I'm not infracting anyone, I'm not even sure what is happening anymore. You're arguing against points no one made, saying the same thing over and over ignoring reality. I was just asking for the people who are forced to put up with you full time if this is really what it's like all the time. Now you're trying to play the victim card based again on shit that didn't happen... I worry about you, you need some kind of help and I am not the man to give it.
You played the mod card first my friend, why even bring it up?
And if anyone needs help it's you. Especially if I bother you so much.
In your special reality popular pod cast hosts make more money then popular radio show hosts even when those pod shows have no major sponsors to pay them anything. Who's out of touch,and delusional? Hey Gramps, don't trip over your balls on the way out
if talking about the last 10 years, think i would the top podcasts would be equal if not doing better than the top new comedy radio shows.
and i just say that as i can not find any new radio shows.
To put it in perspective. The lowest talk radio show in the top 30 does 1.5+ million viewers a day
Rush Limbaugh does 13.25 million
Morning edition does 13 million. in The top 20, 6 of them are on NPR, and they are all averaging 3 million a day. Those are TV show numbers...
Radio is clearly dead right?
Joe Rogan who is the top 5 most downloaded podcasts in the world is doing 9 million downloads ( that is not unique viewers) weekly.
Barely anyone pulls Joe Rogan numbers, he is pulling in a huge viewership from multiple diffrent ventures hes been apart of, and yet he can't touch radio.
Bro you're still arguing against things no one has ever said. Why are you the way you are?
I don't even understand what the argument is.
Is it just me or does Joe come off as a huge broscientist? he talks about alpha brain or shroomtech (lol) then later he will say you dont need supps and they are stupid. Then I heard him say the meat he eats is healthier because the animal runs fast or some wacky stupid shit like that.
maybe you are just hearing the short form opinions. he can and has talked for very long periods about why this free roam grass feed thing is better than something else.
the pills and supplements talk always seems to be contradictory, but i normally chalk that up to a little voice in his head going, dude you just said this shit is pretty much magic better say something to protect your ass. 'or it could just all be bullshit, what do i know, but it seems to work for me'
he just likes to talk about what "seems" to work for him, like when he was spouting off bulletproof coffee to everyone that would listen. I mean i kinda knew it was bullshit, b/c it's basically a recipe for chocolate, that's why it tastes good, and the bulletproof coffee beans was instant shit with him talking about it being moldy. Guess what, all beans have coffee/cocoa have to ferment, otherwise you're just eating berries.
took him long enough to bring a coffee expert to debunk that shit, while getting fat with buttered coffee.
Unfortunately it's hard to get good advertisers on podcasts. It's not really that the big companies don't want to advertise on them because the engagement is through the roof, but it's just too much work. They can make a multi-million dollar ad buy for TV and Radio and be all over the country with one phone call, but for podcasts everybody runs their own business and it's a few thousand dollars here and there for each podcast and they just don't want to mess with it. That's one reason a lot of podcasts are going places like podcast one because they can sell a bundle of ads on a bunch of different shows at once. Even the networks like Nerdist/Earwolf/Carolla Digital etc. are really small time compared to TV and radio.
Jeeze what a shitshow that last Les Stroud cast was. Dude had to tap out.
After starting this thread I feel like Joe went on vacation, shows were sparse until the last week. The Fight Companion from last Saturday was great, assuming you like MMA. Les Stroud did not have hos best showing but still more entertaining than most shit out there.
So recent guests are pretty solid...
Abby Martin from Breaking the Set. Famous for protesting Russian military intervention in Ukraine.
Alex Winter - YES! Bill S. Preston Esquire!!!! He is promoting a Documentary about the DEEP WEB
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