What is the point of putting him in handcuffs?
Tarantino didn't understand Superman. that speech in Kill Bill. was completely backwards.
He claimed Superman was who he really is, and Clark Kent is the secret identity. And a reflection of how he sees us.
this is wrong.
Kal-El is from Krypton.
Superman is from Kansas.
one man can make a difference, if he is the right man.
Any man at the right time, and at the right place is Super.
What is the point of putting him in handcuffs?
They may be going a hancock esque route with this one. Superman gets framed and "does time" due to public outcry, followed immediately by saving the world ofc.
Show. Obviously they can't stop him. But yeah, friend or foe with Zod messing things up. bleh.
The comic con trailer actually has both the scenes we joke about.
The robbing the bank, and being hassled by the police^.
1:40 for being arrested/escorted by soldiers
1:47 for getting thrown into the bank vault.
It's interesting both scenes are MUCH brighter in the trailer. (even with the poor camera quality, loss)
I have a real problem with the trailers and marketing. Music is all wrong. I'm more then a little worried Synder here doesn't get Superman, as Singer didn't. The tone here is ALL wrong. Superman is not grim, angsty, or troubled.
If they were pulling a Wizard of Oz though. that would be AMAZING. Grimdark trailers, marketing. opening. exploding into full color.
I wouldn't really agree with that, at least not recently. The most recent superman cartoons (tv's and movies) have depicted Superman as incredibly grim. Even in movies where they still make him a cheesey boyscout, such as Superman vs. the Elite, he's grim as fuck. Of the graphic novels that I've read recently, that seems to be the theme as well.
I am fine with them trying something different, and if it doesn't work out so be it its not like they wont keep trying with something as big as Superman.
Can we just bury this shitty IP and let it be
At least they got someone who bothered trying to look like Superman this time around.
If they just stopped doing his origin story and made it a Michael Bay-like action movie, Superman would make bank.
I don't think we are going to see 2 hours of Superman lifting heavy shit.
Just saw that Van Alden is playing Zod.
Film could go places.
god damn 6 video per post limit
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All those videos and you don't include the right one.
I am not embedding it because it's a Boardwalk Empire spoiler from the current season and there's no spoiler tags yet. Click at your own risk.
Best scene on TV this year.
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Trailer. Looks like another origns movie, meh
The real trailer is attached to The Hobbit.
Here's the comic con footage:
Im digging his new red and blue chainmail suit. What's next, is he gonna tell us about his ogre slaying knife?
Trailer in HD should be up tomorrow according to the countdown...not sure of the exact time though, but tomorrow
this comes from the Viral campaign that led here once solved...
update: Tuesday, December 11th at Noon ET countdown will end, the results are still unknown.
The coordinates on the page lead to Baffin Bay...
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I have my doubts. The suit look awesome and Henry Cavill looks like a good fit.
The dark tone of the film kinda erks me, though. I've always thought of Superman as bright and breezy - not dark and depressing like Batman's world (http://imgs.mi9.com/uploads/cartoon/...n_422_8278.jpg).
Still, I'm looking forward to seeing how the film turns out.
Wow that looks really awesome. Darker for sure, but it could work.
Tactile telekinesis flight.
Yeah, I have my doubts. which I have stated or hinted at. Superman is progress, hope, the future, etc.
It could be a brilliant transition. grim, dark, tonal in trailers, and at the beginning. and move towards the end to bright, bold, and brilliant.
The pa Kent saying to let people die is kindof wtf.
Haha, that line stood out to me, too. It seemed like a dickish thing to say.
I'm not a fan of the gladiator music at the beginning, either. It's too distinctive and recognisable. I'm looking forward to seeing what Zimmer can do with the full soundtrack, though.
Oh, and this part of the trailer is pretty fucking awesome.
It really is a great shot.
It subtly explains the TK version of how he can fly without having to actually say it. This then also extends to how he can grab people and things and not have them break. And again, no need to try explaining it.
5s shot> any long winded technobabble, that would leave holes anyway.
The darker tone makes it look much better I think, have some hope that it will be good now. I thought the "preparing to take off" part of the trailer was really cool too.
Still too much backstory stuff. Who doesn't know all that stuff by now? Just start with adult superman and go from there; no history, no flashbacks.
I was never a fan of Superman comics, but I loved the first couple Chrisopher Reeve movies, and was so stoked for Returns that I saw it first day. I don't know exactly what it is, but I will be there first day for this as well (midnight showing if possible) with my dick in my hand and a huge grin on my face.
I think it is the whole symbol of hope, bigger than life, etc. that really attracts me. Your typical superhero I just like because they are badass. But Superman...that quote from Batman about how he could rain fire from the skies and be a god, but it never occurs to Clark, that pretty much perfectly sums up Superman, and for some reason I eat it up. Cheesy, overpowered, whatever...I look forward to an epic Superman movie more than any other.
I'm hopeful after seeing these trailers that I might finally be getting my wish, but we'll have to wait and see because I've been let down too many times in the past.
I wonder how many people superman would have accidentally killed growing up. Open a door too fast and you take down a building. Sneeze and katrina 2.0
No wonder this movie is taking a forever alone approach.
Kevin Costner's first role in a film in 37 years.
Looks like I'll be seeing this for sure.
I know this won't be a popular opinion and it doesn't fit into the normal mythos and theme of Superman, but I think I would love me some poetic tragedy and a more realistic portrayal of how difficult it would be to be Superman and have that much power. Yet show enough restraint to keep his acts of intervention on such a small incidental level and maintaining that level of separation and aloofness with our society while still being its caretaker. It is an interesting thought anyhow.
Nailed it. That new trailer gave me goosebumps.
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It looks ok, any complaints about it being and Origin store (Iron man 1, Begins) or Being dark ( read the comics). With that said I havnt seen anything very interesting in the trailers
trailer looks ok. but somebody tell me where this TK superpower angle is coming from? are yall saying superman is now just a regular man with uber TK powers? like in chronicle?
It was a retcon some years ago. Personally I hate it, and refuse to accept it, but it was more or less created to explain why his suit and cape don't get destroyed every time he does something, or how he can catch someone that's falling without shattering every bone in their body. Essentially they said that he projects a TK force field around himself (only a few mms or cms at most) and anything within it is just as super as he is. I'm sure someone else can explain it more accurately, but that's the gist, and that's why I don't like it at all.
Personally I have no problem with that stone-quivering flight scene simply being like when a plane/car starts its engines and revs up, but keeps the clutch in. It rumbles like a motherfucker, but until you pop the clutch it isn't going anywhere. No reason his "flight powers" can't operate the same way without the TK explanation.
It was an attempt to explain how Superman can do things that are physically impossible, i.e. holding up massive objects without just going through them because of surface area and force etc or being able to hold an airplane by the tail without it just snapping. So they explained that Superman can project "TK fields" that surround himself and objects so while it looks like he is holding a meteor at two tiny points where his hands are, the force is actually spread across the entire object with his TK field. I'm pretty sure he still maintains the increased molecular density and all the other jazz from previous explanations of his abilities, the TK stuff is just in addition to it.
as long as its an addition to all supes other abilities then thats fine. if its just there for explanation of why he can grab a jet and not have it break up, then i guess its no problem. i didnt realize there needed to be an explanation. i mean hes a flying alien from space who looks and acts human and wears a red cape. catching jet tail sections without it breaking off are the least of things i would wonder about if i were to nitpick superman.
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See what happens when you try to explain it. ^
Slight visual cues.
But anyway, yeah back in the 80's the TK idea came up. Think it was Byrne.
It can explain flight, strength, how he can pick up things without them breaking. it can even explain heat vision. Its become a fairly consistent thing, although not outwarded stated more often then not.
Superboy, has telekinesis as his only power. which he uses to create the others.
Really though, its superman, dude has a bizzillian powers. Super ventriloquism.
I wasn't so sure about this movie until that trailer, but goddamn it looks pretty awesome. Superman is either a character you love or you just don't give a shit. No one hates him. He either inspires interest, or complete apathy. Personally it took having a genuine fan explain the appeal before he finally clicked. Well, that and watching a shit ton of Justice League.
The tactile telekinesis concept is not unique to Superman either, the first time I saw it was in Aberrant to explain why normal physics didn't apply when a character was using megastrength.
Just hoping they don't spend that much time on his childhood we all know what is, basically only doing it to show the teachings of Ma and Pa Kent, just need 20 mins max for that, 20 mins playing fisherman looking for himself, 1 min in handcuffs lol, and an hour+ fighting with Zod.
So excited about this. Hope it's good. :/
Please be good, Please be good, Please be good.
So, I took it from the trailer that they lived on the coast, some kid saw Clark save the bus from the ocean, and they moved to Kansas. Retcon?
its a river, the bus goes into.
There IS alot of ocean/water imagery in these trailers now that you mention it though.. wonder what that is about.
This looks good. June 14th can't get here sooner.
Pretty sure he moves and works on a fishing/crab boat type deal in Alaska, etc to get away from everyone from the trailers/previews.
Looks like it will be a good version of Superman!!
Well, we already know he does the whole crab fishing thing, but I think it ties back to what his mother says to him when the voices are overwhelming his head. She says to listen to her voice and picture it as an island all alone in the middle of the ocean. I think he sort of just does that as he gets older, submerges himself in the water where he can't hear every little thing that is happening for a few minutes. His own little island, so to speak.
I have decided that I have a full on Rock Hard Weekend rager for this movie now. I pretty much did the moment I saw the first pics/clips, but this just "stiffens" my resolve. I'm going to bust the biggest, cleanest nut right in the movie theater. Hopefully it is worth it. I'm more excited for this movie than the Hobbit, or even the continuation of the Marvel franchises. If they do it right, Superman can be legendary, moreso than even Batman (at least to nerds like me, not necessarily box office-wise). I hope they at least get close.
As much as I want this movie to succeed because this world needs a good Superman movie, especially after the snooze-fest that was Superman Returns (wtf, he left Earf to see if Krypton was still there? 'Tarded), but more-so to usher in a sea change in Comics + Movies: I want serious, adult movies that also happen to feature superheros. I'm done with the campy bullshit. I'm done with the bigger, louder, Michael Bay bullshit. By the looks of the first two trailers, this looks like it could be the one.
I say this because Nolan fucked up TDKR, so now we have to RoTJ the Nolan trilogy. Yeah, it was good until the last movie.
Actually only the second Batman was good, the first and third sucked.
They've done plenty of comics in the vein. I'm just not 100% it's the direction to go with the first movie of something I'm sure is a planned franchise. I'm positive the team making it got a lot of notes from the producers to "make it more like Dark Knight" though.
Either way, looks pretty damn cool to me right now.
I'm heavily inclined to agree with you. Although, I think Begins > Rises.
Not to turn this into a Batman derail, but how the fuck do you make a Batman movie/trilogy where Batman retires? To be that off in understanding a character, especially Nolan and double especially after BB/TDK, it's beyond me. It's as if he lost his love for the story and just said, "Fuck it, they'll watch it anyway so what does it matter?"
High probability we get to see Superman punch something in this. This is good.
You either kill him or you pay homage to the ending of The Dark Knight Returns. The fucking Batman does not retire.
Twice in one film...
As for Supes...I did not have any hope for it, but now I have some.
Then we can have Superman VS The Elite. But rewrite it, so it is actually The Authority, and not strawman villians. Creating an actual discussion between the two.
Its kindof funny, in comics we have all these storys like The Elite, and Kingdom come that are ALL about the cynicism and grimdark bullshit taking over.
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The story is dead, and being rehashed over and over.
Final crisis and Batman Inc was the perfect ending.
Batman killed Tyranny. Died. Came back. Dick took over the mantle.
Bruce Wayne came out as publicly funding Batman, and Batmen around the world.
He then could retire and be a proper father to, Dick, Tim, Jason, Cassie, Steph, Damian.
His story arch would be complete with him being a father.
Its like the Spiderman retcons that ruin him. The manchild. Editorial in an attempt to keep him single and in drama have made him basically a terrible person.
A Batman that abandons 2-3 of his kids. Jason, Cass and Steph is a complete failure. one that fails to save Gotham, but fighting till he dies, or becoming Batman Beyond is a complete failure.
Darkseid won. Batman is locked in a pit of forever failing. He can never win. Any time he makes progress it gets retconned, rebooted. Jason dies again. Barbara gets raped and paralyzed again. And so on.
I really like the 2nd trailer, but the more I see of this Superman the more I wonder how they'll be able to pull off a Justice League movie with anything resembling this tone.
Unlike just about every other superhero, a good Superman story is about restraint. It's about what he *doesn't* choose to do. He doesn't kill his enemies, though he easily could. He doesn't fix all our problems, though he easily could. He doesn't just take over and dominate us into living peacefully, though he easily could. Yes, he's a positive symbol of hope and a brighter tomorrow, but it's not by being flashy. It's through discipline and being true to his sense of what's right.
That's why Luthor is such a good villain for him. You don't need to have kryptonite to threaten Superman. You don't even have to hurt him at all. You just threaten the things that he loves, and force him to make a decision between what he knows is right and what he wants. Lex is a master of twisting that sort of psychology, much like the Joker (though in a different way).
I wasn't overly excited for this before that trailer but man that looks awesome.
I know some of the posters in this thread have been explaining it a bit, but would anyone who is a huge Superman fan mind explaining to me the appeal, in-depth? I've always thought he was a super lame, super boring hero, and this movie looks to be exactly that. I'd just like to hear it from the mouth of a "fan".
Well, I'm eager to hear what Heylel has to say, but in the meantime I'll give it a shot. This is sort of tough for me to explain because I wasn't much of a fan of Superman in the comics (remember though, my "comic time" was before a lot of you were born) because I was always a Marvel guy. X-Men, Wolverine, etc. were huge in my day, although I always fucking hated Wolverine in comics (love him in the movies though). Back when I was reading as a kid there were times when they drastically raised Superman's power levels too, like the scene people often show where he is pulling a line of planets with a chain. So it was pretty easy to just ignore him and say he was boring. Which he was a lot of the time, don't get me wrong.
Along with that, there are a bunch of things I couldn't stand about him, kryptonite being the most obvious. One minute he's crippled from a little rock, the next he's lifting a mountain of it (well, that's the movie, but you get the point). They invented all kinds of different colors of kryptonite to make him do whatever they wanted. Make him powerless? One color. Need him to fall in love with some evil chick? Invent another color. Make him batshit crazy and destroy everything? Pick another color. It was downright ridiculous, and I don't think anyone really likes that aspect. And you'd think that either every single criminal would pick up a chunk of kryptonite to carry around, or some of the other heroes would help a brother out and scoop that shit up to get it off the street.
There are other things to complain about, like the insanity of all his powers (being able to hear everything on the planet at once? give me a break) but it is when I started truly thinking about him compared to other heroes that it started to sink in. The Batman quote is really the perfect summation, but I'll try to go beyond that. It might not make sense to anyone but me, but I'll try.
We can all pretty much understand Wolverine though, right? Who hasn't wanted to wreck some motherfuckers at various times? Even Spider-Man (the comic version, not the movies), I can understand showing off for the girl I like at school, jumping off buildings because I know I can web my way to safety, cracking jokes at common thugs, etc. Shit, even Thor. Similar to Superman in many respects, but he lets his temper get the better of him all the time, destroys stuff he shouldn't, even gets humiliated or tricked at times. We can all relate, because that's what one of us might do if given those powers.
I'm going to speak in generalities now; I'm sure there are instances that will contradict what I say, but given the number of years he's been written, and the number of different people writing him, there is bound to be pretty much everything somewhere in there. I certainly haven't read all of the stuff he's been in, but I'm talking about the "mythos" of Superman so to speak, and not specific examples.
Superman doesn't do those things I mentioned above, like lose his temper, use his powers to impress his girlfriend, etc. (again, in general, yeah obviously he's given Lois/Lana/whomever rides, but it isn't quite the same). He's that inner "good person" that most of us hope they would be if given that sort of power, but absolutely none of us could be. I'm talking about your normal everyday decent person, not your criminal, sociopath, Tyen, etc. Clearly there are some people that would crave that sort of power to do nothing but selfish acts regardless of the harm to others. But your normal person that wouldn't go on a rape spree even if they could get away with it, that's who I'm talking about. They'd still give in somehow, no matter how small. Superman doesn't give in, and even more, he constantly worries that he will. But when it is time to act, he acts with utter certainty that he is doing the right thing. When he refuses to kill someone, no matter how much harm or pain they have caused him or others, he knows with absolute certainty that he is doing the right thing. He knows that if he gave in and just killed Lex Luthor, no matter how much future suffering he might avert by doing so, he'll have forever lost a part of what makes him truly "super." So it is not even an option for him.
But very, very rarely, as someone mentioned above, there are those times when you see that he's considering it. You see that he's just been holding back this whole time because he fears what havoc he would wreak if he didn't restrain himself. Sort of like in that classic scene where Iron Man pisses off Thor and Thor finally lets lose and cracks Iron Man's armor. It's like, you've finally stepped up to the big leagues, and you have no idea the size of the puddle of shit you're about to step into. Except that, in my mind at least (I know I'll get arguments about power levels), Superman's next level would be up around extinction level event size, not just fuck up Iron Man level. Superman unleashed would crush Iron Man like a coke can and think nothing of it. Those are the times when Superman is truly awesome, even though you know he's not going to do it. They tried to give us a little dose of that in some of the movies, like turning back time or lifting a mountain of kryptonite. They don't come across very well on screen though. But when you can sense that he's on the edge of really cutting loose...and then he still reigns it in...that's when you truly understand Superman. He could literally crack the earth if people pissed him off enough. He could knock it from its orbit and kill everyone. Hell, he could fly at super-speed and just smash every single motherfucker on the planet if he were feeling particularly vindictive.
But he doesn't. He doesn't even think about it. Ever. He thinks about how he has to lead by example, always, never slipping even once. If some criminal is shooting him with kryptonite bullets, Superman doesn't simply fly out of range and incinerate him with his heat vision. If anything he'd destroy the gun and then capture the guy, even though blanketing the area in rays of laser death would be much easier. Because there is always a way for him to win without resorting to those tactics. He would hate himself if he ever stooped to something like that. Like I said, he could just kill Lex Luthor because he knows he is just going to escape and come up with more evil plans, but there is always that tiny, tiny hope that this time Lex has learned his lesson, and what right does Superman have to take that choice away from Lex?
Some people compare him to Jesus, and I get that, but for me it isn't even remotely the same thing. The whole "do what is right, no matter how easy the other paths are" is a pretty common element in a lot of heroic figures, not just Jesus. Unless you buy into the whole smiting from heaven stuff, Jesus wasn't constantly making the choice not to kill people, or not to break into banks and steal all the money and build himself a Super-Mansion of gold staffed with hot bitches and servants that feared for their very lives. Superman can do all that stuff, easily. Superman could go on TV like Zod did and tell everyone in the world they now have to worship him as their King, and there wouldn't be anything anyone could do. But he never, ever does it. Or even thinks it for that matter.
I will also admit that I have a further interest in that I've had an idea for a novel in my head for decades now that centers around someone very like Superman in a lot of ways, and that constant struggle to limit yourself is a central theme that I keep having difficulties dealing with. I try to picture myself with that power. I can't do it, because I know I'd stray. If you could hear every single cry for help, maybe not in the world but let's say just 100 miles, could you do what he does? Could you speed here and there, tirelessly, never taking a moment for yourself to catch your favorite TV show, watch your football team (in person of course), or even spend time with loved ones? Not to mention having to hide the fact that you even have loved ones for fear that someone would find out and threaten to harm them. And when they inevitably do threaten them, how do you not simply obliterate them with your super-speed or heat vision to make sure your loved ones are safe?
I couldn't do all of those things, and I don't think any living human ever could. Put yourself in that position and truly think about it. What would you do if you knew hundreds of people needed your help right now? Or if you knew that some guy had a gun to your mom's head and was going to kill her unless you ate a kryptonite bullet. Could you avoid smashing him into bloody chunks at the speed of light? Whatever the scenario, somewhere all of us would falter. Yet Superman doesn't falter, ever, and thus we have a model to strive after, even though we know we can never attain it.
Hopefully that makes a little bit of sense, but I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't impress anyone but me one bit. Still, it is how I view Superman, and why he's pretty much my "favorite" superhero even though I typically enjoy reading and watching others far more. No one really ever does him right, so he'll never be as popular on the big screen or 99% of comics, even to me, as someone like Iron Man might be.
Finally, in case you've never seen this, you should watch this fantastic trailer for the DC game that came out awhile ago. This is about the closest representation of "pissed off" Superman I've ever seen, and it is on the verge of being awesome if his part had been extended longer. I get chills just watching it. I'd give my left nut to see 3 hours of this.
The comicbook Invincible is basically Superman gone bad, you should check it out.
Another piece of commentary on humanity is Clark Kent. When Superman is his secret identity he plays a bumbling awkward weak coward. Is this really what he thinks about humans, or is there another reason a god would live as a weakling?
I mentioned this earlier, but after that post, here's a recent example of one of those "almost" moments:
(can skip to around 3:00)
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Is it really evil if you do compromise for those you love if they've been violently wronged? If you refuse, it shows your moral compass was stronger than your love for them, and then what is the fucking point of loving them in the first place? You're essentially saying "I love you as long as I don't have to change", and what kind of shit is that? If Superman's intent is truly making the world a better place, then he has to make the call when you being around anymore goes against that. I gave you 5 chances, you're still a fuck-up, time to die.
Then again, this also gets into saving individuals or saving the world eternal. This is why I really don't like Superman, his morality seems to fly in the face of the old adage "break some eggs to make an omelet". You cannot believe that everyone is capable of achieving redemption but on the other hand label people as "evil". It doesn't work, at all. It's no better than tolerating bad children vs. having mortal enemies, both cannot work. He needs to take out the trash for a better Earth, or this constant struggle will never end while he fucks around shooting for a balance that is unachievable.
Save the people worth saving, worth redemption, but remove the people that will prevent the good and savable from progressing. At this point, it seems like he's playing a fucking game with us, and is zero help.
We don't need self-limiting heroes.
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You do know he's not real, right?
You know you can discuss fictional shit within its' context, right?
There is always a way.
Lex is in jail taunting him. And Clark saves Lex's life repeatedly without Lex even noticing.
Superman is dying, and he stands there and still asks Lex to use his intelligence to help, while Lex spits in his face.
Regan, and you are stronger then you think you are.
He is a guy with the power of a god. And its his humanity that makes him Super.
Superman is more of an idea, then a persistent character. He does not work well in ongoings. By far the best superman stories are one shots. and what if, etc.
Whatever happened to the man of tomorrow? is Alan moores silver age send off. It ends Superman's story right before the Crisis on Infinite Earths reboots.
And Superman breaks his no killing rule.
Superman:grounded. marks the ending of the Superman's story pre-Nu52 reboot. Started by straczynski. It was god awful at the start. He quit/was fired. and Chris Roberson finished it. kindof masterfully.
Invincible is not a Superman allegory at all. Still good.
There are a few though.
Irredeemable. Is Superman gone bad.
superior (50% supe, 50% Captain Marvel)
Superman Red Son is a bit of both. (as in bad, and redeemed.)
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no one is beyond redemption, born evil, etc. Its choice born of culture and upbringing, greed, medical problem, and/or desperation.
If you had the power of immortality, etc, there is no reason to murder people to solve problems.
Cops, soldiers? their lives are in danger, they have the right, and obligation to save themselves and others as best they can.
When you are faster then the speed of light, then you don't have to.
You can afford to restrain and try to help them.
Unless that guys is a literal god of Tyranny. well then he are part of the fabric of the multiverse, and dying will undo reality. You'd have to have some kindof miracle machine to wish for a happy ending.
ah yeah. omni-man is I guess. Invincible isn't though. But yeah, they totally are Kryptonians/saiyans.
Last edited by Caliane; 12-13-2012 at 05:02 PM.
That's the dichotomy he is forced to live with, and that is why he is "something more." He doesn't stoop to the easy way if it endangers someone else in any way, and he still wins. Because he's Superman. You can't say that his moral compass is stronger than his love, because he can do both. Sure it is impossible in real life, but in the context of a comic book...that's why he's Superman.
Also, you seem to think that he is here to make the world a better place all by himself. That isn't what he's about at all. What good would a world be that consisted of only people he feels are worth living? Then he'd be a dictator/god, regardless of good intentions or not. He is quite literally capable of doing what you ask, saving the worthy and taking out the trash. Fortunately he knows that he is no more worthy of making that decision than anyone else. He doesn't label people as "evil" at all, he stops those that are attempting to harm others, or breaking the law, or putting others at risk for their own personal gain. But that's the end of it. He stops them, turns them over to whatever authorities he feels are appropriate (Arkham Asylum for some, local cops for others), and hopes that they have learned their lesson. If they get out and do it again, he stops them again. He doesn't impose his own judgment on them beyond protecting what he considers right and wrong.
That's the vital part of Superman that most people don't get. He doesn't want to be God, he wants us to figure it out for ourselves, but he's going to do his best to give us a hand along the way. And be a symbol of what we could be to help inspire us.
God I can't get enough of that DCUO trailer. Too bad the game itself is terrible, like all games with trailers that awesome.
Seriously though. I would like to see, a "whats so funny about Truth, Justice and the American way", that actually uses The Authority. And is not a strawman.
Its kindof funny, the animated version doesn't even use the title^. The marketing team apparently didn't read the comic or watch the movie.
but the second problem is the strawman. The Authority, who its based on. would LOVE Superman. The entire premise is, "a better world". They stopped talking, and started doing. Lead by example. They routinely talked down supervillians. Took sociopaths, and put them to work helping the world. The Elite are criminals pretending to be heroes. Basically the corporate Authority that tried taking over the Authority that one time.
Heres a blog on, "what's so funny.."
Makes a nice parallel, on heroes, and America and "the American way".
What is stopping the US from wiping out North Korean? Iran? Are we afraid of them? their allies?
We aren't world police. Letting them, live how they please is their right.
Tyranny is not the American way.
On that topic. Go read The Authority. and then Planetary.
You want a hard ass Justice League? check it out.
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Vvoid nailed it, but my answer would be 'because he's inspirational on a different level than other popular heros'
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