It was good, probably better than agents of shield owing to its limited run and need to advance plot quickly. I'm a sucked for period pieces.
Curious if anyone watched this? I recorded it, but the way that Agents of Shield is, i did not want to spend 2 hours watching this if it really sucked.
Any opinions from those that saw it?
It was good, probably better than agents of shield owing to its limited run and need to advance plot quickly. I'm a sucked for period pieces.
If you liked her in Captain America, you'll like the series.
I thought it was pretty good as well. I wasn't sure what to make of the show and didn't really care for the first Captain America film. The show picks up a bit after Capt crashed into the ice at the end of the first film. Not sure how far along it is, but they spent the first part of the show flashbacking the movie to show her relationship with Capt and to remind the audience who she actually is. Overall, I felt the story kept me intrigued and Agent Carter was a good heroine and liked how she used her femininity as a weapon to get in/out of situations at times while she also had her share of butt kicking, too but nothing too far fetched. I was pleasantly surprised by the show and looking forward to see if the quality remains next week.
I think it really helps a lot that the show can focus on developing just one main character instead of trying to work on an entire group. The show had a lot of moments that had little to do with the big picture but showed Agent Carter's character. It does a pretty good job of showing the time, without the super powers. I actually enjoyed how the show back pedaled from the "super" aspect to a post war reality. I will say that Agent Carter seems stronger than the average female, but it in no way goes over board with it. I assume this is working up to the creation of Shield as a full fledged secret organization. I will keep watching it.
capt. crashed after "d" day. so lets just say it happened late 44-early 45ish
story picks up a year after the war ended. So, about a year to a year and a half after Capt turned into an icicle....
watched it via dvr to skip the commercials, i found it to be a good period piece, like her character, liked jarvis, didn't like how her coworkers treat her but..she is making them look like fools in the field (unbeknownst to them)
definately will continue to watch the show.
It was good. Making it a limited run was definitely the right call, forces them to put all their eggs in one basket and actually create a tight story. Some fantastical elements, owing to its comic book origins, but still believable. Definitely did not start off flat like Agents.
I just started watching the first episode. It's my lunch break at work.
My first observation... Hey, it's Bubs from the Wire!
I liked the second episode's use of radio drama interludes featuring the fictional Peggy Carter armed with her Singer sewing machine contrasted with how the real one was currently kicking ass.
I half expected Peter Scolari and Tom Hanks to saunter into the ladies-only residence hotel she ends up at.
I enjoyed it. Couple easter eggs: we saw Dr. Vanko who would have been Whiplash's dad from IM2. And I think it was the waitress, but the daughter on the couch in How I met your mother is on this show.
Also at the beginning of episode one they showed Carter changing and she had two scars on her shoulder, in the photo at the end of episode two you can see those scars so that will be what gives her identity away.
so yay or nay?
directed by 4 males, 3/4 are old white men
Series Directed by
Louis D'Esposito ... (1 episode, 2015)
Peter Leto ... (1 episode, 2015)
Joe Russo ... (1 episode, 2015)
Scott Winant ... (1 episode, 2015)
i powered through AOS and soldiered on until it finally got good, and i really don't care about SJW or fem shit, if it's good it's good, otherwise it sounds like it's placating for an audience.
It's not based out of anything SJW. It's just cliche. She's a typical super spy, but also dealing with post-war period sexism. She solves virtually all problems with violence just like a dude would. Covert Affairs is basically the same show without the post-war period hokum.
Dumb show, but she's eye candy.
Going from BWE to this must really sting for Shea Whigham.
I enjoyed it , very watchable. Far from dumb and saying cliche of a set piece is rather cliche.
I liked this a lot. It was really campy and colorful, which makes it look like an old comic book coming to life on the screen. I also really dig the period it's set in and I think the lack of cell phones and high-tech gadgets makes the spy stuff a lot more interesting. For example, I loled when the two guys overheard her walkie-talkie.
I like the show so far. Good production value as well.
I don't think i can stand this show, it's not bad, i just don't like the cheesy 50's, its one of the worst eras in film for me, cuz the characters all suck. I would have rather'd have seen the agent carter i saw from SHIELD
instead i get the "after years" of the war,
The character is great, just the time period sucks and the men portraying the period are too 1990's madonna dick tracy cheesy, swarmy slobs
It'd actually be badass if instead of her and stark forming SHIELD, she's the first director (it's assumed she runs things).
Well next episode you will see some of that Peggy Carter. The preview showed Dum Dum Duggan and Asian howling commandos. Not sure if it'll be flashback or new team up.
pretty sure this is the post war 40s. no russians, no cold war. no problems with the setting.
I sure hope this series builds to
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The 50s Captain America nobody talks about. We need a Chris Evans replacement one day..
It's a ok show. I would rather watch the new Cutthroat Kitchen than this, but dvrs are great.I keep thinking Howard is going to bang Peggy and that is where Tony comes out of. No reason to really think that due to origins and such, but since they like to fuck up origins in the marvel movies why not?
In my opinion watching Agent Carter was like watching some ultra Disney-like PG Mad Men episode. Of course it's better than Agents of SHIELD, since this time they seemed to care about both casting, direction and production. But to be honest that whole 1946-womyn-against-all vibe seems quite bland, especially in some avant garde unit like SSR. She's not being taken seriously by the usual asshole trio (the good , the bad and the dumb) but since it's a PG show, we'd better fit some "clutch" support around her ! I don't know, it felt so cliche looking at Hayley running around with her breast tailored outfits, trying to wear the show on her mammaries like there's no tomorrow.
what aggravates me the most about where she works is that they treat her like they dont want her there, which begs the question, then why the fuck do you have her there at all? if she is so useless then send her the fuck back home. if she is useful, then treat her like one of the team. if the suits or somebody important assigned her to this bureau and they cant transfer her away, i wish they would address that. they made a point of stating that women are losing jobs to returning male vets. then howd carter make the cut?
Because they basically look at her as being their secretary.
yeah but they dont need her to mess with WW2 stuff since the war is over and red skull is dead. they treat her like a secretary because they do not need her there. ya know because they can hire a secretary and dont need a female agent for shit like that. they even made a point of saying hey stay here and man the phones, she says nuh uh. im coming along. im like wha?? those phones still need answering and if somebody above you tells you to take phone calls, either that person does what you order or you replace them.
yeah its contrivance, but they are contradicting themselves. either she is a secretary, or someone who is no longer needed or she is an agent. it would make more sense to keep her down in the basement messing with those files and she sneaks out to work cases because they basically dont know she exists until they need some case files brought out. they would not be letting her have her own desk with the rest of the male agents. her having her own desk like a regular agent signifies she has respect which they keep pointing out she does not. see how it constantly contradicts itself?
Look at it this way, someone who is more powerful than anyone we've met working in the SSR says they want her there so she's there. It's that complex.
I feel like as far as these "guys guys" know she is the fictional character from the radio ads vs the agent carter we saw in the movie/flash backs. They pretty much said as much. The one guy said something like I know you were Captain America's "liason" but wtf do you need to be here for now go file my paperwork
Despite perceptions they are "dialing it up", they really aren't. I really don't think people today have any true perception of what that time period was like back then and it's sort of a commentary on WW2 and Post-WW2. During WW2, you had this brief period of "equality", so to speak, that women and non-white people were exposed to due to necessity. When the war ends, the desire by most white men (the majority), especially those in power (older generation...don't forget those folks were born in the late 1800s or 1st decade 1900s) is to return to the status quo. Women get the boot from jobs they held in WW2 to make room for men, non-white people go back to their regularly scheduled segregation. It would still be a couple decades before you really started to see that begin to crumble on a wide spread scale.
Hence where the historical context comes into play. They know she has some value, but at the same time they have no incentive to put her in a position to "steal" work from them. Most of the programmers on the ENIAC system were women I believe, then they all got kicked to the curb eventually.
ok, but they were programmers who were hired to program and were programming. they werent getting the males coffee all day i assume.
They were, but once the problems were solved by the programmers and the war was over, they were largely ignored.
i think some of the acting took a hit this week, but damn i do love those period settings. as a kid during the 70s i remember stuff still looking that way in some places.
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Decent episode and the old school Cloak&Dagger stuff is fun to watch
That article doesn't quite elicit how much its all the Comics Code Authorities fault. social justice brigades forced censorship on comics. And that was the end result.
look at this hilarious line.
They totally miss the parallels to Bayonetta, powergirl, Wonderwomans legs, spiderwoman, etc.. bitching NOW.Oh, and no pants, ladies: "All characters shall be depicted in dress reasonably acceptable to society
Now, if a female character is NOT wearing pants it's sexism, and must be changed.
They were kicked out of every normal job, so clearly they were also demoted as secret agents? Women were always critical in intelligence BECAUSE every job in the world is done by men. The development of the intelligence services of the 20th century was just another page of war, and the same pragmatism that was necessary in WW2 was necessary in the cold war. She just wouldn't be in the bull pen with a bunch of dudes. The sexism throughout the period is fine. The sexism in her office from her co-workers would be a different flavor entirely.
Yet in the very first episode they use the typical seductress approach for her to get information. A role a man isn't capable of managing unless the target is gay, and if they uncover that then they can use it as blackmail - chick required either way. The fact that she'll be considered a dumb girl / secretary means she can work in places a man couldn't, posing as staff that works closely with a person or near a location that has information. Being underestimated is an asset she gets to use, and thus so do her employers. Yet the only one that gets her capacity is Stark? It's cheesy and lame.
Stark knows her from WW2, so he knows she isn't a chump. There is also a brief line in last night's episode where "Eli Thompson" laments being stuck with her, which reinforces the idea that someone very high up wants her there. There are people who know she is a valuable intelligence agent asset, but that doesn't mean everyone will know or appreciate it even if they did.
What about the SSR makes you think they utilize a lot of espionage?
There is also the possibility that the whole theft of starks stuff is a smokescreen by stark to help ferret out leviathan and possibly moles in the SSR using carter due to her being a woman means there is almost no chance she would be involved in any plots of that nature.
The feel from the office guys is mostly a war hero and grunt type vibe. The majority were not placed in that office for bright ideas, certainly.
Ragefire - Snatty / Vlett
Tunare - Sethlen / Ryoh
Vulak - Snatty / Terran
Stormrage - Vlett (RIP WoW)
Balmung - Vlett Byrn
Trakanon - Vlett
I can't believe they killed the moose. Why not legs? I get tired of seeing him rattle around.
I hope they tell us how the house marm knew about the visitor. Seemed like a fool proof plan for the late 40's to scale the wall like that.
I finally deciphered your first line. I'm glad they didn't kill "legs" because Enver Gjokaj is an awesome actor that needs to be in a lot more shit. And he's obviously being portrayed as the only one in the unit with testicles and a brain, so he'll be pivotal later on I'm sure.
Ayran dude coming out of wall there only to get ninjigato'd was the highlight of this season for me
do we have any idea who that girl next door was ?
More than likely a student of the Red Room. Same training academy as Black Widow. Preview showed Peggy with the Howling Commandos in Russia and seeing a crazy little girl trying to kill them.
yeah, I get a feeling its going to be a red room reveal. I do hope its either Nat, or they do plant the seeds of Natasha being 70+ still.
http://marvel.com/universe/Black_Wid...tasha_Romanova)Obviously the MCU is not an exact replica of the comic books, nor could it be - Natasha, for instance, was a baby in the 1940s in the comics.
She should be 18 or so at the end of WW2, and be in the Red Room program by 47, pushing 20.Born circa 1928, Natalia "Natasha" Romanova was apparently orphaned as a child when she was trapped in a burning building during an early attack on Stalingrad by enemy forces. Ivan Petrovitch Bezukhov, a Soviet soldier, found Natasha in the inferno and rescued her. Although Ivan kept a close eye on Natasha as she grew, by the late 1930s she had attracted the attention of Soviet intelligence, which began her training
I do hope they have her show up. It puts the CA2 discussions between her and Cap into an entirely different context.
Fury showing up too would be amusing.
Should note, CA2 also stated Nat's birthdate was 1984.
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Would also be interesting if Cap's blood ended up being the catalyst for Natasha's Russian super soldier serum.
And as far as Fury goes... Triplet said his grandfather was a Howling Commando, is it outside the realm of possibility that Fury is Trip's grandpa?
I think the Emergency Awesome guy is off the mark with the blond agent dude. He's an asshole and sexist, but he is also a good agent. I think they are setting him up to eventually respect Peggy, something that she will earn (not that she hasn't already earned it, even if they don't know) in his eyes.
I agree. I don't think he's going to end up being a villain. Especially since the show already has Dottie as a sleeper agent getting close to Peggy.
I was happy Charlie (the Emergency Awesome guy) mentioned Peggy's shitty hiding place for the blood. When she put the blood there I literally said out loud "That is an awful hiding place."
to be fair, if i was an SSR agent and i found out another agent was working on the down low with a wanted fugitive and not following proper channels, i would not respect that person either.
its been a while since you had a session with Dr Mario. i think you need one.
pretty good episode, this show is pulling me in, there was some hijinks in earlier episodes, but its really coming together now. im glad they toned down the misogyny shit to almost normal levels. is that little girl supposed to be black widow?
That program is the precursor to the one that creates Black Widow. But yeah same basic schtick. That kid is too old to be Natasha though.
I do like what they are doing with Howard Stark to bridge the gap between WW2 and the present day. Obviously as we get further and further from the 1940s it gets harder to maintain the links some characters have with that time period.
Ya, it is basically the proto Black Widow program they showed. They are def setting up blond agent to be the potential Peggy "future husband" she talked about in CA2.
Ya, it isn't Natasha. But I could easily them eventually creating some tie in (relative or some connection to Natasha's mother eventually).
I like how they're showing that Leviathan clearly hasn't been perfected by this point. Dottie may be great at fighting and espionage, but between her handcuffing herself to her bed and her pretending to be Peggy, there's obviously something a little off about her.
The handcuff thing I almost took to be a "comfort" thing...she was so used to it as a kid that she keeps doing it to help her sleep. The Peggy bit I just saw as the fact that her identity is whatever it needs to be, which is a hallmark of the Black Widow program later. Sort of a "let me practice" type situation.
On a side note, that psych dude they picked up is totally a Leviathan plant.
No Dottie clearly has some psychosis.
I didn't care much for this episode outside of stuff involving Dottie. The opening Montage where she snapped the neck was bad ass. The SSR chief doing a 180 suddenly and being interested in the truth seemed forced. As did Pegg saves golden boy and now they are buddies. Dum Dum Doogan was also unremarkable except for his look, overall a pretty big disappointment.
Oh. OK, no idea about anything related to 1 tree hill. That was a shitty series on the CW or the WB or something, wasn't it? Are we talking about the interrogator guy who froze? From the beginning, I figured she'd wind up with crazy legs. But come to think of it, he is a nice guy, so he's destined to finish last.
I honestly don't remember who has what color hair. The only reason I thought 'blonde agent' was dotty was because my wife called her the blond girl, and I had no idea who she was talking about. For some reason, no one's hair color is even registering for me on this show.
dont feel bad, i am still unsure if peggy is a brunette or a redhead
Ya, by blond agent I meant the dude who froze up (Thompson I think).
I can't remember much about what she said in CA2, but she did mention that she got married to someone who fought in the war.
The inhumans thing didn't even occur to me while I was watching it though it makes sense.
i have been waiting for them to bridge the gap to agents of shield from this show. so far its been mostly standalone. i suspect the finale will tie directly into whats going on currently in shield/ultron
i am assuming this one will end with them finding the obelisk.
Putting her out in the field was the best decision they could have made. Having the other agents see her where she's in her element and insanely capable.
Also folks shouldn't worry so much about Natasha being too old/young to be one of the girls there. They have no problem messing with comic book canon for their cinematic universe, if they wanted to say one of them was her they could no problem. They could also say she's actually just a 30ish spy broad and that's it, no crazy age shit.
Black Widow is kind of a codename. I know after Natasha there was a new one, Yelena Belova, who was chosen to be the next one. So I wouldn't be surprised to find out Dottie is the original Black Widow of the MCU. Or she'll turn out to be Natasha's mom. Or something along those lines.
Or Dottie could be the mother of Natasha's mother if they wanted to go there. A child born in the late 40s would still be within child bearing age in the early 80s.
Dum Dum Dugan has been in the present I believe in some points of Marvel History. Wonder if that will ever happen with the MCU
He also fought ,and beat Godzilla!
I actually have those Godzilla comics, purchased with my allowance when I was 8 years old. You'll be happy to know they aren't worth shit.
Is it just me or is this show kind of boring? I watched the first episodes and was struggling to stay interested.
first few episodes have some growing pains, it gets better as it goes. it starts off them portraying all men as insufferable sexist pigs, after 5 episodes we have been downgraded to just tolerable sexist pigs. yay.
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