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Steam Community :: Holiday Auction
so steam is doing a new thing for the winter sale, which starts Dec 18th (1 week). In addition to the normal badge crafting and achievement and crap, they have implemented something that lets them sort of clean people up out of their extra trading cards, badges, backgrounds, etc.
Basically they are putting up hundreds/thousands of steam games up for "auction", but you don't bid money. You bid gems. Which you get from converting your steam crap. There are dozens or hundreds of copies of each game too.
Personally for me its way too much effort, maybe someone will make some chrome extensions that auto convert all your crap into gems and find games on your wishlist, then I'll try. But for now, if you wanna screw around with it, click the link above, login to steam, and then click on check your inventory to see what various items are "worth" when turned into gems.
Based on my quick glance in my own inventory, even if I consumed every card I have, I'm not sure I'd have more than a few thousand gems maybe. Too much work!
Because we only stand for being owned and used for profit by our own. Rererolled.org
Market is fucked. Can pack 1000 gems into a bag and put on market. Endless errors trying to buy the god damn things though. Put in a few hundred gems on various games I think I'll get. Anyone trying to compete for AAA titles is probably going to wind up disappointed though.
Nevermind finally got a buy order through that filled so I have 500,000 gems now. Now to decide if I should bid or wait for market to stop shitting itself and for prices to go back up. 1000 gems should have a bottom price of .30 based on the minimum cost to generate that many b y poofing backgrounds and shit.
So, there's pretty much no reason to craft cards this sale?
Converted all my cards, got 754 gems. Top bids are like 200k, lol.
Because until people start placing genuine bids on the 15th instead of tracking bids it "looks" like you can get any game for less than a dollars worth of gems. When in reality once real bids are placed as actions start ending there are going to be a fuck ton of people with no games and a ton of useless gems.
there's apparently some bug that is letting people dupe gems but i ain't going near that shit, i love my steam account too much to risk a ban
^^ not mine just a screenshot someone took and posted on neogaf
Why are people turning their cards into gems, when its a far better idea to sell them and then buy gems
Card prices are about to plummet btw. Highest booster pack combine cost I saw was 1200 gems. All my gems/sacks are now non trade/marketable but can still be used to make boosters. Made one of everything myself but it's limited to 1 per day per game (may have been unlimited for a while dunno).
TL/DR 3 cents per 3 cards for any game to make them atm. Steam I am disappoint. Didn't they have this duping problem before? Oh well I'm fine with it since my 750,000 gems should get me a couple games I think. I'll be salty as hell if not though.
Or not haha. All my gems/bags are now gone from inv and shits disabled. Motherfuckers better give me my $15 back.
Yea it looks like they shut it down, the banner is not on the homepage anymore.
Probably the best way to handle it, although I'm sure some bought cards with gems and in turn made some money on resale. It may turn out you get your gems back on top of what you traded the gems for as I can't imagine they are going to overturn every single gem trade.
The whole system is fucky. If you've used the Steam Achievement program to get cards you probably shouldn't be complaining about prices or gems. That so many have used it has done more damage to the system to the people who earned their cards than anything else.
Not that I give a shit, I used it too for the 50 or so games I never planned on playing or got in a bundle for free. Point is, the whole system is fucked. Go GoG.com route and just give everyone a free game. But I guess Valve makes bank off all the transaction fees during these "promotions".
Last edited by Jait; 12-12-2014 at 09:37 PM.
Cool they are resetting it, but did they really think people weren't going to exploit the system? Eh, glad they are trying to fix it.
Just have a goddamn sale. Ffs
Eh. Kinda soured on the whole thing due to all the wasted time since I didn't jump on the make 9000 booster bandwagon before they limited creation. Would have been nice to leave a token bid of 1 gem if you had made enough to cover it though because going through their buggy ass list is a pita. Game positions flip flop for whatever reason leading to amusing shit like placing a bid and going back and the game you bid on not even being on the same page you just left. As well as less amusing things like going through all 134 pages and then having to search for games that never got displayed.
Still don't see how some of these bids can be legit unless someone spent literally hours buying low priced shit to poof on the market. Think 100,000 gems equates to $30 now based on highest conversion rate I saw @ $.03 per item. Probably about 4-5 hours on the market/poofing on top of it so not fucking worth it to save $20.
For those who might care prices are already spiraling but the following tend to be 100 gems/each. Loadout emote/background, Marvel 2015 background, Gunz 2 emote/background, Hawken emote/background, Dead Island Epidemic emote/background, Blacklight : Retribution emote/background. Have yet to see anything that poofs for more than 100 a pop except foil cards which are about 280 per from what I saw. Lots of shit from various games poofs for 80(Legend of Grimrock 2) but I didn't bother to track that stuff although it's already cheaper to buy those for .03 than to buy the 100 gem items.
Spent about $10 while the stuff was still 3/4 cents myself. Gonna wait and see how high it climbs and either resell if people are retarded or see if I can't get my moneys worth by winning a couple games. Something to kill time in the mountains I guess.
Last edited by Taloo; 12-13-2014 at 01:18 AM.
Yeah, I'm not in for a re-do. Bring on the sale.
auctions are live
Steam Community :: Holiday Auction
i don't honestly understand any of this shit and am too lazy to figure out how to get a gem, plus the only game i'd bid on(divinity original sin) is at 50k gems and i somehow doubt i'd be able to get that many. plus i can buy Divinity for $15 from the neogaf trade forums
I guess this explains why a bunch of really old shit I had listed finally sold. I've stopped caring about Steam sales though. The one 2 or 3 years ago for winter was the last good one.
This is way too over complex, normal sales are far more appealing lol
its a good time to make some extra steambux. i used the chrome extension steam inventory helper and dumped all my cards, over 600 of them, for $60 - each sold for an average of 10 cents but it adds up. thats like a hundred steam games!
Steam inventory helper - Chrome Web Store
i use idle_master to idle games and generate cards, just never did shit with them since i didn't really understand badges. dunno if this is the "top" of the market or not but free money. to bulk sell, go to steampowered.com in chrome, login and stuff, go to inventory, and click multi sell, click on all your badges, and sell. you'll have to checkmark the dialog that comes up (auto accept, auto adjust, I agree) and then the extension goes off on its own and lists the items one by one.
if you try to sell more than 200 at a time you have to got to a special steam page and give them your SSN for tax purposes, lol
This is all way too damn confusing and frankly I'll just wait until Amazon Tony comes out and the Amazon Digital Sale.
amazon tony doesn't work in video games anymore, i think he even left amazon
He works for Amazon Game Studios now making games for the Fire devices I guess. The sales will still happen though, it will just be harder to find a simple breakdown of every game and which days it will be on sale over the xmas holiday.
Good to hear there's an actual sale coming, like a previous poster there hasn't been much special about Steam sales for a while I think, and this auction stuff has me even less interested.
This auction is pretty good for me, turned all my shitty emoticon and backgrounds into about 6k gems and got 3 games out of them so far.
Dumped my 500 gems into that ultima game. F it.
Trying to decide if I want to win 5-10 small auctions for oddball/indie games or go all in on one of the less competitive AAA titles like Wolfenstein. Spent $10 on gem items, poofed half and can currently make my money back selling the leftovers. Think I'll see how things look tomorrow. Think prices will creep up another couple cents on most stuff I'm holding. Little worried as supply decreases folks trying to win multiple auctions are gonna give up and shit on my indie game gem costs. Shit shoulda been a blind auction. Way too much fucking hassle to actually try and participate.
If you don't have Wolfenstein you should really get it.
I got a game on my wishlist for 4k gems that hasn't gone below $16 yet so I feel like that's pretty great savings. I'll keep an eye on some of the others but with gem costs rising I don't foresee any of the "big" titles ever being worth it.
you get a badge for winning an auction for anyone into steam xp. and yeah, its pretty uneven on how smart some of the bidding is. for example valkyria chronicles is at 25k gems, which you could have sold for $30 and bought the game which only costs $20 on steam (and is on sale all the time for $15). divinity original sin is 30k gems while the game can be bought for < $20 from traders.
if you are pretty good about adding games you wanna buy in the future to your wishlist, you can just click on My Wishlist on the auctions front page and it'll give you a rough idea of how much a game would cost. you can buy 1000 gems for ~$1.20
Steam Community :: Holiday Auction
It's been on sale other places though, and likely will be on Steam in a couple days. And that doesn't excuse people paying 50% more than the BASE cost in gems :P
This bidding shit is a complete farce and Valve is just laughing all the way to the bank.
I don't know about "farce." Aside from those few random games that people are overpaying for, most of the games are a fair sale price or better, and it's eating up tons of useless background/emoticon/cards from people's inventories which make those all more valuable to people who don't collect them and just sell them off. Obviously Valve is the big winner but they're the big winner in literally everything Steam does. The market, cards, emoticons, backgrounds, etc. existing in the first place is printed money for them.
Backgrounds give out good gems. I had some crappy wallpapers that actually fetched for like 80 a piece.
It doesn't look like you need the top bid, either. There's multiple of the same game and as long as you're within that quantity near the top, you'll get one.
Like how they enabled selling bags on the market half way through the fucking event which of course is causing undercutting wars. Lowering the value of gems. Which is lowering the value of items that turn into gems.
Last edited by Taloo; 12-17-2014 at 05:57 AM.
I've gotten 2 games for well below the price they'd be at on sale even, and have two more bid on and almost surely will get tomorrow again, under value, although not $12 savings like the first game I got. So all in all pretty happy with this whole nonsense. Even broke even crafting a bunch of badges and selling elf cards.
So for $9.71 and a few of my own backgrounds/emoticons scrapped (like 10, maybe less), I got 4 games off my wishlist: Sentris, TRI, 10 Second Ninja, and NeonXSZ. At 75% off each, those would have cost me around $17, and 2 of them are early access and haven't been more than a couple bucks off. This isn't counting all the badges I crafted at little or no cost buy selling the elf cards you get each time you make one.
Hoping they do this auction thing again for sure :P
I liquidated all the items in my inventory and don't have enough gems to bid on the cheapest item available. Oh well.
I idled games for cards, then converted those to cash. The return from steam wallet is a ton better than converting cards to gems. I bought gems in the sacks, and got a few 1k -3k gemmed games out of it.
Yea, cards themselves aren't worth turning into gems. It was way more cost effective to buy missing cards and craft the badge and convert the background + emoticon into gems and sell the holiday card, but that required paying attention to your costs and having Steam money in the first place. I kept track of everything and so for me it was just a more complicated, interactive sale :P
Edit: Selling cards and just buying gems also better than just converting cards themselves, ya
i made almost $50 steambux idling all the games i've bought over the years from bundles and shit and selling the cards, it took under 15 minutes too with steam inventory helper to sell them all. took about 4 days of idling to get all the cards, but automated with idle_master
anyways winter sale starts in 90 minutes, add all the games you want to your wishlist in case you are busy this holiday and steam will email you if any go on sale. probably better deals though offsite like Nuuvem or Green Man Gaming
Enhanced Steam if you don't have it. By the same guy who made idle_master and it's basically an improvement in every way. It'll show you on a game's store page (or your wishlist if you hover over it) where the current cheapest price is. Nuuvem comes up the winner a lot but there's some VPN stuff required to buy from them I believe.
So I guess this got borked? People reporting they aren't getting their games, and there's like no sign of the auctions anywhere lol.
I got all my games but none were in the "last" auction that finished as the sale went live. I got my copies when their round of auction ended. I'm guessing it's the last auction that fubar?
The auctions were all supposed to end same time sale went live so I'm not surprised there's some issues.
Ended up with four indie games for about $2 after selling everything I bought at 3-5 cents and didn't poof. Went to bed rather than win something with my last 2000 gems and ended up with a foil when I made boosters just now so might even be a wash when I sell cards.
Shit was so weird though. People were bidding over $1,000 in gems for that fucking profile that expires. Even near the end last night it was in the $400 range.
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