ROFL holy shit if that's real...I kind of want it but still..Jesus Christ.
Fuckin' LOL. Shit storm inc.
ROFL holy shit if that's real...I kind of want it but still..Jesus Christ.
The last game I bought because it had a bit of the old ultraviolence was Manhunt.
That's 60 dollars I'm just never going to get back.
I actually like the way the game looks minus the edgelord setting. Probably be pretty boring if the point is just to kill as many people as possible though.
According to wikipedia "The developer described Hatred's theme as a reaction to "'politically correct' trends in gaming" and sought to make a game that eschewed politeness, colorfulness, and games as art".
By that trailer alone, pretty sure they succeeded. At least a lot of ultra violent games in the past gave violence context. This game is just like, nope, go on a murdering spree.
This is the kind of shit that will just give poly the ticion something to use as a platform for more control on games.
If as a whole it flops though they will have no leg to stand on , however if it does very well then it will be the damn 90's and esrb all over again.
Yeah , bet they release it with mod tools as well. Really do like the isometric view though thats cool as hell.
Fox news is going to have a field day with this.
It doesn't look that fun tbh. Rapelay had more gameplay.
Lol someone should send Anita a copy of Rapelay.
Moronic and done simply for the statement. It'll be crap.
Was almost expecting 'preorder now for beheading video creation mode'. Wow.
No doubt in my mind this game will be a highly unplayable piece of shit if it even comes out. The only reason this game exists is for media attention, Not to bring politics into this but if this game was secretly paid for those Anti gamer gate people that bought all those twitter bots I would not be surprised.
The Company "Destructive Creations" has made no other games and the developers website is like 4 months old. This company was created 4 months ago and with out kickstarting or fundraising made a PC only game that is every Fox news watching mother's idea of what a video game is. What Investor funded them?
Also, Note the specific targeting of Women and "People of Color" in the video as well.
The Isometric games/Unreal 4 engines are completely free to download and make and the textures and models can be stolen/bought online for cheap.
It sprang on everyone during the this entire Pro/Anti Gamergate shit and one side is trying to discredit the other and this game is fueling the narrative that video gamers are ultra violent neckbeards.
It's already starting, Polygon has FIVE articles about the game and 1 Facebook discussion talking about it.
As I write this I'm pretty sure this game is just a trailer and maybe a shitty demo, I highly doubt this game will ever see the light of day in any serious format.
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That is my thoughts to. That it is a pr stunt. Or maybe something more sinister perhaps?
There is something amusing in doing the game that video games are accused of being by those that do not know the medium, but it all sound very 1st degree (and I don't mean 1st degree murder).
I very much expect certain people to start saying, "you are not allowed to make offensive games, or games that offend me."
some background digging would be interesting. Seeing if its a troll or what.
Also, the actual gameplay in that doesn't really look "worse" then Bioshock:Infinates murdering. Just placed into a local context.
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Marilyn Manson OST?
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Well I'm in the Roger Ebert school of games aren't interpretive but objective experience and unless this game has badass talent trees, ultra rare drops or at least some kinda achievement-driven metagame it definitely wouldn't reach escape velocity from Planet Publicity-Stunt.
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I concur, only a ten year old would want this drivel and a ten year old should not be able to get a hold of it in the first place.
"LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, I WANT ATTENTION!!!!" - that's all I got out of that.
idk game looks great id play it.
shooting people in the face? stabbing them in the neck? yeah im down GTA with more GORE
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That's awful and you should feel bad.
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Your justification in life is merely self serving. Imagine if society was 100% people like you, fuck living in that place.
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It's self published, so it was never meant to have a physical version in brick and mortar stores and they will not rate it because it's not mandatory in any way. When the game is done there will be another round of news about how steam/desura/gog/etc don't want to sell it and how it's only available on the dev's web site and voilà. If game site refuse to provide them with a second round of free advertisement, they'll scream anti-gamer censorship since apparently this has been shown to work.
I'd give this as much time as I'd give a Charles Manson torture simulator "game". I have no issues with violence, I just prefer to slaughter things in games that aren't about simply going nuts and slaughtering innocent people because I can.
Its the fact that they just go and say I just want to kill and die .
It is so stupid and obvious media bait.
I mean even Trevor in gta as crazy and violent had a reason for it and had it explained.
Like I said though it is media bait or political bait bs made for "edgy" debates.
I mean why would you have random white tuff guy 1 when if you are seeing people snape its more like internet tough guy / beta ass shoots toddlers .
Thats more realistic.
in a move that should probably surprise no one.
Hatred went up for Steam greenlight today.
Successfully upvoted by a large margin, and was accepted.
But then 7 hours later removed for violation of terms of service.
My personal opinion is the same as before.
I am pretty sure this game is just an experiment/viral pushing boundaries knowing full well someone will balk and ban it. I'd almost bet there is no actual game.
the GG crowd is up in arms. Dunno how much is false bravado, vs ignorance.
Steam is a private platform. And all platforms practice censorship. Steam, Walmart, etc do not sell Adult games. I'm not sure on xbox or sony systems, but Nintendo will not license an adult game.
actual content gets similar censoring all the time. Again, Nintendo did it regularly and very handedly for the longest time. much to their own detriment as time worn on. Nintendo's censorship a large part of the "kiddie" stereotype given to them. Honestly have to wonder if nintendos censoring had anything to do with their difficulty with 3rd party devs.
as many of the talks are now arguing. Manhunt is on steam, so is postal. GTA, and many other games of the same nature. and then we can look at movies, and as TB pointed out, The Human Centipede is on netflix instant ffs.
Freaking out and blaming SJW is stupid.
but, this does open up a good time to send emails to steam, or open a discussion at least on what is and is not acceptable in games. And what they should allow on their platform. Steam and valve should not try to be the moral authority.
Maybe I'm a pussy but watching that trailer made me sick to my stomach. Even a virtual rendition of such brutality and violence to humans I couldn't finish the trailer. It still shouldn't be censored.
Hopefully Steam catches the hell they deserve for removing it. If nothing else clarified rules on what can and cannot go through Greenlight needs to happen.
Even "offensive" games aside, they were all prepared to axe this immediately, but the War Z is still getting sold under whatever BS name it has now? Come on.
Gone Home was at least twenty times more offensive than this shit.
Edit - Loved that someone negged me for this and was too stupid to see it as an obvious joke.
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Based Gaben to the rescue.
The censors have been defeated and it seems Gabe personally took care of it. Respect.
Yesterday I heard that we were taking Hatred down from Greenlight. Since I wasn’t up to speed, I asked around internally to find out why we had done that. It turns out that it wasn’t a good decision, and we’ll be putting Hatred back up. My apologies to you and your team. Steam is about creating tools for content creators and customers.
Good luck with your game
I thoroughly enjoy all the butthurt this game is going to give SJWs. Even some of you dumbies claiming the "Look at me" shit. Isn't that what trailers are used for?
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He has quite the endless pocket there on his hip under his coat. He shoves a knife in there with no sheath, a few grenades, an extra magazine. Ridiculous storage space.
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I guess NeoGAF added this game to their list of "do not discuss" games. Which seems pretty odd for essentially a Postal clone. I still don't understand politically far left groups going so far left they've ended up in the religious right.
NeoGAF is on my "do not visit" list, so that's no problem.
I would find this whole thing more palatable if there was even the tiniest of hint that the people making the game are not certified idiots. There is no such hint in the interviews / quotes by the devs, so Occam's razor is strongly in favor of them being idiots over them being the heirs of Andy Kaufman.
Even if they are idiots, making an idiotic game...so what?
Anyone can make a game. Thats the freaking point.
And that is why its so important to defend what you do NOT agree with, and what is NOT handled with skill.
Do it when its HARD, not easy.
Sean must have to really reel it in over there. They ban people left and right.
People don't seem to comprehend what Free Speech is.
Is anyone going to jail or being charged with a crime by the government for this? Is the government stopping them from making it or selling it?
Carry on then.
Gabe can sell, or not sell anything legal he fucking wants on his platform... see, now that is free speech. He can't pick and choose WHO he sells to, but he can sell whatever product he wants.
Anyway, the game looks pretty shitty.
Defending someones right to create and have a voice, across many platforms is worthy.
and yeah, Steam is basically a monopoly, so it is kindof a big deal.
If nothing else, consumers have the right to demand Steam be very clear on their policies. Being dodgy about their practices, and having a monopoly does put the spotlight on them for questionable business practices.
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But probably not as good as Gone Home.
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I was completely and instantly surrounded and encompassed by the story of the lesbian teenage girl coming of age to a completely empty house because they all took off after finding out she was gay. The mom, the dad, the sister... Little bits and pieces of glorious clues while I was walking around an empty house. The situations were tense, as I thought at any moment the lights would go out and Slender man would come around the corner and eat my fair lesbian teenage maiden for breakfast. All in all, I think it really brought me closer to understanding the emo angsty crowd where nothing goes their way, and it obviously isn't their fault. Joan of Arc was slain as a witch, and the free people of the world have always treated teenage lesbian daughters the same.
By leaving the state.
I cannot believe I found the secret ending where I found the roof after finding out the entire family had moved to France to get away from my sorry ass emo teenage character.
At this point I thought maybe there would be a hay bail as I jumped, like Assassin's Creed, but.... sadly. No.
Then this weird emotion came over me. Something so artful I had to remind myself it was a video game.
I wildly cheered and yelled at my screen in joy as my character jumped off the roof and impaled herself on a large iron post sticking out of the fence. And the upper corner window of the family in France eating cheese and drinking wine saying, "Finally we are free of that little emotional drab woe is me fruitcake".
It was a great game.
Wait...is that what that game is really about?
This teenage lesbian, although you do not know it at the time (That's the plot of the story) comes home to an empty house and you explore the house for 3 hours and at the end of your exploration you realize that she is a lesbian teenager who fell in love with her female friend from when they were kids.
Carolyn Petit from Gamespot LOVED it. Obviously. It was Game of the Year for her/him.
With that said, I like my version better. Is it moddable? That would be awesome.
Last edited by Utnayan; 12-18-2014 at 03:23 PM.
Ut has it wrong actually. You come home to an empty house and find out your sister is gay, not your character. The story is about as well written as an assignment for a high school creative writing class.
Your sister is gay? Who cares?
Steam is a monopoly now? That's interesting.
You know what's more entertaining than the game though? Gamespot's review.
Edit: Where the reviewer who is transgender I guess goes on and on about how we need more games like this that explore ordinary families and their issues and how these stories cut deep. Nah, not really. We do not need real life emo shenanigans which no one cares about making statements in 3 hour video games in which we could have had more fun burning the 15 bucks in a fire pit, drinking shots of Johnny Walker, and discussing Ellen DeGeneres's latest episode.
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$15? Must be some swill ass Red Label stuff. Not down for the hangover, Ut-bro.
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Oh and sorta fuck Tuco too.
It's not for everybody, that's for sure. But I LOVE when people do creative things with the video game medium. I generally prefer a mediocre but unique game to an above-average game I've played a hundred variations of before. I'm glad games like Gone Home are enjoying the success they've earned, as they will no doubt encourage more developers to create more unconventional and imaginative games, and that is an objectively good thing.
It was a well-written review that makes explicitly clear exactly what the reviewer liked about the game. If you can read that review and figure that the game won't appeal to you, then that's a job well done on the reviewer's part. If you're able to get a good idea what the game is about and decide it's not worth your time, that's a good thing. Other people (like me) can read that review and actually get intrigued and consider giving the game a shot, which is also a good thing. It's good that Gone Home exists, and it's good that the reviews let you know exactly what you get. Win-win all around and zero fucking reason to complain. Unless, of course, you get off on complaining.Gone Home is an important game because it does something games rarely do: it tells a believable story, grounded in the real world, that focuses on women and treats all of its characters, women and men alike, as complex individuals. But the reason to play Gone Home is not for its importance. It's for the elegance with which its tale is constructed and communicated, and the captivating way that it makes you an active participant in peeling back the layers of one family's ordinary lives as their home tells you their stories.
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Szlia sure is courageous in his defense of freedom of expression and speech. I mean, defending Anita from the "horrible" accusations against her.
Oh wait, unless you happen to be a game developer or a media company. In which case its no big deal if you get terrorist threats or your game's distribution is shut down.
I'll readily admit that the american concept of free speech is broader than mine, but that is true of many people since the 1st amendment's protection of hate speech is part of the american exceptionalism. That being said, the three cases you mention have no relation whatsoever with the defense of free speech.
As far as I am concerned:
- Sarkeesian is free to say whatever she wants about video game and people are free to criticize her work. It just so happens that some of the critics were totally deluded and/or completely discarded sociology.
- Franco and Rogen have the right to make a movie about assassinating the current and very real leader of a batshit crazy dictatorship with which diplomatic relations are tense and complex. That does not make it anything less than an extraordinarily retarded idea.
- That polish dev team is free to make a game about a nut job butchering civilians and Steam is also free to sell it or not on their store. That does not change the fact that I suspect the game will be aggressively stupid and that I don't understand why Steam is ok with stuff like this on the store yet bans games focusing on sexuality.
I fail to see the cowardice/double standard/hypocrisy/whatever in there.
for you, free speech is a buzzword. you don't seen to understand the civic concept behind it.
Free speech can be an issue even within a private forum, club, social group. In those cases its a matter of discussion, and control to be taken up with the owner, social group, etc to decide on what liberties the public should have.
You freely admit Steam is a monopoly on an entire platform/industry/medium. And thus Steam and Valve acting as cultural gatekeepers for again, an entire medium is pretty scary.
Stardock put forth that gamers bill of rights. and frankly, Steam should do it as well.
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I think we have some new amendments to add..
The rights of devs to create freely and expect their creations to be distributed freely.
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So basically Szlia's definition of free speech is "letting people say stuff he already agrees with".
That concept is meaningless.
edit: Or maybe "You can say whatever you want, as long as it doesn't offend any particular person".
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Steam is problematic in more ways than one, but forcing them to distribute all and every games does not sound like the greatest of ideas to me.
Yes, that is what is going on. They are being forced to distribute every and all games.
That's not what is going on, that's the implication of Caliane's post.
Win win all around.
Until then, keep the lesbian emo shit out of my games. I've got Bronchitis. Ain't nobody got time for that!
Go play The Vanishing of Ethan Carter. At least the kid you are looking for isn't some retard emo punk hopped up on anti depressants.
(FYI as far as Gone home, "beat" the game in 97 minutes. 97 minutes I will never, ever get back)
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The fact that Anita's embarrassing master's thesis was green-lit should result in most reasonable people who read it wondering what the fuck is going on with modern sociology, at the very least.
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Which sounds intriguing. What happened to my family? Why is everything so off? It's kind of scary in here, let's explore and find out what happened. Thinking to myself this could be a murder mystery, this could be a haunting, this could be * ANYTHING *. WHOOHOO! LETS FIND OUT.
Oh wait, it's a lesbian love affair with fucked up parents. The only twist was the sound of my wallet's stomach being infected with the norovirus, and the only people that found it fun were runaways hanging out on the corner of 7th and Lake Street, our resident SJW Troll, and a transgender reviewer from Gamespot of which rated it higher than any other game known to gamerkind because the story "cut deep". Meaning, "holy shit did someone read my Facebook meme's and make a game out of my life? 9.5!" And this Lawlworthy comment: "“I never expected to see myself — or such a strong reflection of myself and my own life — in a video game.”
10/10 – Polygon "
Makes me want to hug the Polygon guy/gal/whatever the fuck, and say, "Sorry your family left for France when they realized you were a sell out douchebag like your website"
Last edited by Utnayan; 12-19-2014 at 01:18 AM.
Khalid, you seem to have a problem with complexity. I am a good customer for stupid politically incorrect comedies, so I suspect I might very well enjoy The Interview (like I enjoyed Team America, South Park: The Movie or Don't Mess With The Zohan), but I still think it is a really irresponsible idea for a film. Is a buck and a laugh really worth making the work of the state department harder? Also it's not about mocking the leader of North Korea, it's about assassinating him. Are you surprised they fail to see the comedy in that?
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I am not sure what your problem is Utnayan. The description said the game was a "story exploration game", you knew the story could be about "ANYTHING" and after buying and playing the game you were not interested by the story it told. That's just the cost of doing business when being adventurous, no matter the medium.
As for you claim that just about no one enjoyed the game I think we both know you are being disingenuous. Journalist reviews of the game have been overwhelmingly positives and as I write this post 79% of the 9684 consumer reviews on Steam have been positive (an info that was just bellow the meta data you cut & pasted).
I disagree with pretty much everything tan said about gone home. I don't see how it's unconventional or original in any way. It's not like a story centric adventure game has never been made before. The story is a terribly clichéd forbidden love story that I refuse to believe that anyone is genuinely enthralled by unless the game is literally the first piece of media that person has ever consumed. If it was a heterosexual love story nobody would have given a fuck about this game. The reviews on it are clearly agenda driven.
I mean shit, we may as well make a game about Tanoomba where we explore his house and try to find all the autographed posters of Anita Sarkeesian. "You have found 5 of 10,232 - your time is up". You get an achievement when you find the other 10,226 that read, "I am the Al Sharpton of the Misongynist movement." He hid those very well.
Last edited by Utnayan; 12-19-2014 at 01:56 AM.
Utnayan, here's where you lose credibility for me, personally: You're plopped into a game where the first objects you are exposed to establish who you are (your luggage and your passport with your name and photo). Shortly after that, you learn that the house you are exploring is inhabited by your parents and your younger sister (none of whom are home). You even see a family portrait including both yourself and your younger sister in the main hallway. You and your sister have different names which are constantly referenced in things like the postcards your character sent home from her trip and the stories your sister wrote for school, among many other things. For Christ's sake, the highlight of the game (for me, at least) was the contrast between a school assignment written by your character and (separately) your younger sister based on the description of the female menstrual cycle. It was hilarious, it was insightful, and it only works at all if you pay a little bit of attention to who these people are.
(Spoiler alert, do not read if you haven't played but still intend to play Gone Home)
You also say "there was no twist". What does it take to qualify something as a "twist" to you? You go in knowing nothing, and everything you learn is something new. You learn your dad is an author who had mild success with one novel, less success with a follow-up, and has since been trying and failing to remain relevant, leading to apparent alcoholism. You learn that your mom went to bat for one guy she worked with to get him promoted, she very likely had an affair with him, and it seems in the end that he was just trying to promote his own career while he ended up marrying another woman. If you're curious enough and make the effort, you learn that your dad's uncle (the original owner of the house) may very well have molested your dad at a young age and committed suicide to escape his own drug-induced demons. There's more going on here than "teenage girl falls for other teenage girl, angst ensues", but it seems like it all flew over your head. It just seems to me like you were looking for an excuse to say "keep the lesbian emo shit out of my games".
I'm not even saying you would like the game more if you had a more open mind. It seems ridiculously obvious this isn't your type of game. I just take issue when you talk about "your games". They're not "your games". They're just fucking "games". You're not going to like them all. Get the fuck over it. Some people happen to appreciate a story told through an unconventional method. If you took a chance on a game you didn't know much about and ended up regretting it, well... welcome to being a gamer. Not everything is suited to your personal and highly subjective tastes. Maybe next time you can read a review about a game you know nothing about before buying it.
fucking linked to, they were pretty fucking descriptive of what exactly the gameplay and mechanics were like and what exactly one should expect when playing the game. Who would have thunk, huh?
A nice twist would have been anything but the obvious where one knew everything within about ten minutes of playing. It took all the suspense out of it. After that I was playing to see if the story was going somewhere unexpected. Sorry dude, I have played Esther, Ethan, and many other similar games. This one was poorly written.
And what do I mean by twist? What you explained was nothing. There wasn't any character development with any of that shit, and it didn't make me give a crap about the protagonist. A twist in my world is watching an old twilight zone where this old lady is being attacked by little robots for 25 minutes out of a 30 minute episode and you fear for her safety after a ufo crashes on her house. Only to find out right at the end when she manages to finally kill one and chase another back to the top of her house, killing and smashing the space ship, it zooms in on the UFO where it has a "U.S, Air Force" logo on it and it turns out WE were the little robots. That shit rocks. We need more of that.
Pop up Amazon prime or Netflix and hit up twilight Zone season five episode 9. "Night call". I saw that when I was nine. I remember it. Why? Awesome. Translate some of that shit into a game like this. Now we're talking.
Last edited by Utnayan; 12-19-2014 at 05:02 AM.
And yes, if you changed the love story into a "straight" one, it would not have worked. If Brad Pitt and Edward Norton didn't end up being the same person, Fight Club wouldn't have worked either. If Bruce Willis had been alive throughout The Sixth Sense, nobody would have given a shit. Believe it or not, a story about a teenager slowly coming to terms with her own sexuality and all the confusion and conflict that causes is a very different story from that of a teenager just falling for a guy. I honestly don't understand how you see these as being interchangeable.
Anyway, I'm sorry I came off so aggressive. We're just talking about games, after all. Shouldn't we be grateful that all types of games are being made and finding appreciative audiences, even games we hate? Isn't one of the best qualities of the game industry how inclusive and varied it is? It just rubs me the wrong way when people choose to politicize something for no apparent reason.
"Night Call" is about an old lady who gets a mysterious call late at night.
And "Death Note" is the story of an angry student who writes about people he doesn't like in his diary.
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