7th Grade Heaven
Last edited by Qhue; 10-07-2014 at 07:38 PM.
Decker Unit will have a whole new connotation now...
Didnt click, read, or listen . . .
Did he go homo or hetero? Lol
The strangest thing is, I've always said the guy was the poster child for a sexual predator, or a serial killer.
Wish I had been right about the second thing instead.
I did not see that coming.
Not that I see him as a paragon of virtue. But kiddie diddling?
Well he did have a thing for bald girls...
So I guess technically... it could be worse? I don't even know.
I do know that shrink did his profession no favors by getting involved in a divorce dispute in this fashion. Ethically it's obviously the right thing to do... but I think that maybe got away from him.
so was this a leaked private conversation? i wonder if jennifer lawrence will claim decker was sexually asssaulted too.
At least he didn't smoke pot
In college, my wife was friends with a preachers daughter(from hs). The family only had 1 tv, in the parents bedroom, they would all gather in there and only watch approved programming, like 7th heaven.
My first girlfriend was a preacher's daughter and @ 18, 7 th Heaven was the only show her parents would let her watch that wasn't a cartoon!
Sick bunch those zealots.
Despite an ecstasy/sex rampage and turning into a Falcons fan, she somehow managed to turn out ok.
Totally jerked off to the dad from the show.
I always thought it was so funny how all of the kids were 100% whitebred. god, simon was a little fucking Arayan Master with his blonde hair. And then BOOM... the youngest one is a little spic.
And the dad didn't even notice. They never even addressed it at all. A saccharine adoption story would have been perfect for that show. But nope. She just cooked too long or something. I really feel like someone in the casting of that show was being incredibly snide.
At least ruthie is legal and hasn't methed out yet.
Cops have his house roped off and traffic stopped and reports of gunfire.
Until you hear him charged with something sounds like it could have been a pissed off ex wife or whatever she is.
this case is very strange. i dunno if thats really his voice, but it doesnt matter, his career is done now whether he did anything or not. another example if you did something fucked up, deny deny deny. or rather dont do anything fucked up like showing little girls your weewee and make them touch it in the first place.
lul. Mr. Danger, if that is your real name, I salute you.As will happen when a former Baywatch actress breaks important national crime news on social media, things got a little crazy.
Something still doesn't add up. Had the tapes for 2 years and turned them over to the police in NYC and nothing happend?
Isn't there a story that the wife (ex-wife) was holding the tapes and using them as a threat to try and get more money in the divorce.
She taped the therapy sessions secretly, I guess once she figured out that he had this stuff to come out. And then she hits him with the "I got all that on tape, so pay up big. Or else!!"
The story I read she tried to get more money out of him for the divorce then shopped them around to sell them. That doesn't sound like a great plan considering his future net worth if true is going to take a nose dive. But it also said she sent the tapes to the police in NY a long time ago unless I misread it.
It also doesn't sound like a great plan when you consider extortion is a crime.
probably knowingly withholding evidence of a crime for 2 years is a crime too.
She'll just pull some bullshit about how she was too afraid of him to release them earlier, but now finally found the "courage" to do it.
Secretly recording to gather evidence of a violent crime is apparently legal in California, but secretly recording a therapy session? That's pretty fucked up.
I thought it was the shrink herself that was recording her own sessions. And of course she's ethically bound to report criminal behaviors. But... secret recordings? Ehhh... if she still has patients after doing that. Well. Maybe she does. It's not the reporting. It's the breach of trust in recording. But, if semi-working washed up actors trust her... more power to her.
If not, the wife is a gold digging fucking idiot. Because while he'll get burned badly for letting a little girl touch his peepee, she'll get burned hard for pulling that bullshit. It's not like people will get so enraged at him that they'll forget she committed a crime as well. Although that might be what she expects to happen.
But I thought it was a situation where the shrink reported him to the police and the wife jumped on it saying, "look, he diddles kids. Gimme his stuff". Maybe I'm wrong about that.
Last edited by Iannis; 10-11-2014 at 12:31 AM.
yep. the shrink would have released the tapes immediately, to the cops, not to fucking TMZ. the wife recorded the "confession" and sat on it for 2 years then released them either for extortion and/or to win the divorce case. bitch is just as guilty as he apparently is.
Well, that's bad then. All she did was make it harder to hire him. If he'd confessed to actually doing anything that was obviously criminal (i'm not listening to some dude talk about having sex with 8 year olds, man) then his shrink would have dealt with that when it happened.
The shrink might come after her. Because not only is she burning her husband, she's burning that doctors practice. I don't know how. There's got to be something. We have so many stupid laws that just by odds we'll have a couple of decent ones too.
I did listen to it, he straight up admits to molesting kids in a very dry, emotionless manner. I don't think this was part of some counseling, more like the therapist was serving as an arbiter during their divorce and specifically addressing things that were written down as a part of that process. The wife sounds shocked, like she is just learning of this stuff and trying to process it The wife claims she didn't leak the tapes, there is no telling what happened. But even if she did sit on it, no, she is not just as guilty as the dude who molested kids.
I didn't say it does, man. They can both be guilty of different things.
Either the wife fucked up or someone in that arbitration did.
HEADS WILL ROLL.
Is a shrink really supposed to report it if a patient confesses to a crime during a session? I thought it would fall under the patient-doctor confidentiality thing.
Yeah, that's the thing.
If someone admits to murder the therapist has to report that. There's no statute of limitations on that, legal or ethical. The crime is still actionable. If a 40 year old man admits to beating up a queer in high school... that one, you let that one slide.
Is this confession actionable? Is it a confession? If so, the doctor is in some shit. And how could the doctor possibly know if it's actionable or not without reporting it? The doctor has to say it wasn't a confession. And usually that's the end of it. But... secret recording. Problem.
So is the wife a whistle blower, or is she a gold digging cunt?
Because of the nature of what he's confessing to that is a very, very ugly question to answer.
Child abuse/neglect has to be reported to authorities but only if it's current. If some one admits to abusing their kids 30 years so, that's not current. Is someone admits to abusing their kids 3 months ago? Yeah, that's current. Must report.
That goes for murder as well, BTW as well. Crimes need to be current, or imminent.
That might legally be true, it might be I'm not arguing the point, but with a taped confession of what some would consider child molestation you've still got a significant problem.
And I would like to think that a doctor hearing the confession of a 30 year old murder wouldn't dodge the ethical ramifications of that knowledge just because "it's sort of a hassle."
Is not "sort of a hassle" its a federal regulation. And the ethical ramifications are not the ones you are thinking of. The ethical ramifications at that point are getting the client to admit to it to the police. If YOU tell them for him at that point, you've ruined your credibility, probably lost your license, and endangered the entire healing process for the guy. 30 years later, and with no danger of him repeating the crime... The counselor is legally obligated to NOT tell anyone. And those laws are created by the board of ETHICS.
Yeah, I don't buy that even a little bit.
But Doctors generally excel at 2 things. One of which is covering their ass.
The Shrink would be ehtically, possibly legally bound to not reveal a person who self admits child abuse, or even murder from decades ago. Basically the only time a shrink can go to the cops is if a person says "I intend to harm this person". If a patient could be reported for any previous criminal action they report to a shrink the industry would be a small fraction of its current size.
I dunno about the laws but it seems possible that because it was recorded in a session this might not be admissible. Never really heard of a case like this.
Last edited by Whidon1; 10-14-2014 at 10:12 PM.
Yeah, there's a reason why most therapists don't record their sessions. It causes a TON of legality issues. How long do you keep the tapes? What if someone listens to/watches the tapes? Anything goes even slightly sideways and you've broken federal law. No bueno
how exactly is this child molestation? all he did was whip out his dick. most 12 year old girls have sucked at least a dick or three by that age these days. inappropriate, yes, but let's keep this in perspective.
Lots of misinformation on reporting laws.
Therapists are mandated to report ongoing or future abuse of a child, senior citizen, or other dependent adult. They are also mandated to report if they believe the client is an imminent danger to his-/herself or another person.
All other cases are protected by confidentiality. You can tell a therapist you murdered someone 10 minutes prior to the session, and unless they suspect you'll do it again, it's protected by confidentiality.
Source: I'm a clinical psychology grad student
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Nope, only if it's current. The not reporting of something that happened 10 minutes ago, as it's in the past wouldn't fly. That's current.
If a therapist reasonably believes that the person is a danger to himself or others then he must report it. The point is moot anyway because the wife is the one who recorded Collins.
Yes, exactly. It's a little different for child abuse/neglect because if it happened yesterday, one can reasonably assume it will happen tonight. Of course that's a slippery slope so there are o there qualifiers involved. But its a HUGE red flag right then and there
That seems kind of like bullshit to say if it happened yesterday it could reasonably happen again, but because it happened multiple times over an undetermined time period some undetermined time period ago you couldn't say the same thing. I don't doubt that is the case for reporting, or something like that. It just seems kind of like a green light for person X to continue to fuck kids so long as it didn't happen within an arbitrary time period.
so has this guy been charged with anything? i havent even seen Gloria "i hate men" Allred with one of these girls on TV talking about a lawsuit yet.
Well, if someone molested a child 10 years ago, and says they don't want to anymore and don't even have access to children, that's different then someone saying that last night he molested his daughter in her crib. Even if he says he doesnt want to do it again, he's potentially causing harm just being in the situation. The counselor has to evaluate each situation on its own merits.
To a softcore strip in that show.
edit haha it's even more fucked than Ithought. Family shows sure can get creepy when they last too long and instead of jumping sharks they make their toddler stars into sex objects.
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