i wonder how much money got poured into this
Blizzard Cancels Titan
I wonder if this means Tigole will come back to WoW and make it great again like TBC/Early WotLK
i wonder how much money got poured into this
7 years in the can, why not just launch it for half price, nerds (me included) would still try it.
If anyone could afford 7 years of dev costs down the toilet, it would be Blizzard!
Makes you wonder what is next for them.
It would be nice to see what they actually had as concept art and shit, but then they'll probably just salvage what they lost over those years into another—smaller game or something, somewhere down the line.
I still would have preferred Starcraft: Ghost.
I wonder if Curt Schilling still blew more money to not make a game.
I find abandoned MMORPG worlds super tragic...COH, Vanguard, EQOA... people put their souls into the creating these worlds. Knowing Titan and Amalur exist and will never be explored hits me right in the feels.
Maybe they'll use the development team that was working on it, to push out content faster for WoW now.
so does blizzard roll it's successes here into world of warcraft? Or is it all a big waste?
so what did titan look like? did they ever release screncaps after 7 years of development?
Bring him back. Bring him back. He's been on Titan since he finished Ulduar
To be fair COH, EQOA, and sort of Vanguard had pretty thriving communities - and in the case of COH and EQOA for quite a good time. I'd be content with making those games and knowing people enjoyed them for so long.
Well they still have quite a bit of milking left to do on Wow and it still has zero competition. It's sitting above 6 mil subs right now and will likely be above 1.5 million for at least the next decade or so right? Don't mess with the cash cow when no one can dethrone it.
Well this is certainly a setback for the genre. Sounds to me from that article and the music analogy that there were some "creative differences" going on, in a big way. Too many cooks stirring the pot probably.
In a weird way I have some respect for blizz for not cashing out on this one. They could have. MMO Genre fans like me treat any new release like a hipster treats the next version of the iphone. Regardless of quality.
Not surprised one bit. Tigole back to WoW? lol
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With that said, new avatar time. Go nuts Column
I would be interested in seeing how Hearthstone is doing financially. I would guess extremely well, with a lower development cost associated obviously, and could very well be getting more from an ROI situation than WoW at the moment.
I remember when Blizzard put the game first and the money second. Obviously the money is always important, they are a business. But they made fun games, and were rewarded for just that. When I see quotes like this:
it means a fundamental shift in design philosophy obviously by using limited development in a more casual environment and increasing ROI 4 fold over capital intensive games. Basically taking minimal risk and turning Blizzard into the next Big Fish Games.He explained that Hearthstone had helped the studio realize that they don't need to fit themselves into the box of only making products of a certain scale.
"Maybe we can be what we want to be and inspire groups around the company to experiment, get creative, think outside the box and take chances on things that just might thrill people," Metzen said. "Maybe they don't have to be these colossal, summer blockbuster-type products."
Which, I also hate the shit out of. I am growing tired of the new trend in where a lot of games coming out seem cheap and lifeless. Destiny was a prime example. EQ Next will be another one.
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Well, this is certainly good news for the rest of the industry.
Still kind of a bummer.
Also Diablo 3 Shitfest Guy talking about quality of release product is always amusing.
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I had unreasonably high hopes for this. Impressed they were able to walk away. But damnit if not knowing wtf the IP was going to be is going to drive me crazy.
Welp, I was way off base. I had some hope when it said "Titan" thinking maybe it just meant that initial project and not whatever it turned into. But no, they were very clear in saying it's the next gen MMO. Fucking fuck.
More respect to them for being pretty damn insightful with this decision, but in my head I was answering their rhetorical questions of "are we an MMO company" with "FUCKING YES YOU ARE PLEASE GET BACK TO WORK DAMNIT."
I get the feeling that whatever Titan was it somehow ended up being a console game called Destiny.
I hope one day we get some details on what they actually had and what genre it was.
You don't think that's what WoW already was/is for a not insignificant amount of people?
But WoW doesn't have enough Orcs.You don't think that's what WoW already was/is for a not insignificant amount of people?
They can sit back and wait til the next generation of MMO comes out, and then copy/polish the shit out of that.. until then, they are sitting on the most successful MMO in the industry.
To expand on what I said before scrapping Titan probably had to do with the total lack of need for it along with whatever development issues it had. When Titan was first proposed it made perfect sense given the obvious expectation that someone would come along and de-throne WoW eventually like every other game with competitors. If Blizzard didn't already have a new game in development when WoW was dethrone then it was going to be 4-7 years behind and that is a lot of revenue and brand to lose in that time.
So here you are looking at 7 years of development for Titan and running through your mind is "Well on one hand here is WoW which countless companies have tried hundreds of innovations to de-throne... and failed. And here is my new product, Titan, which everyone expects to improve on WoW in ways no one else has managed to figure out and to regain the top MMO position." You look at the fact that you are still in the top MMO position. You look at whatever issues/improvements you see with Titan that have failed in every competitor to WoW thus far.
You look at all this together and wonder why you don't just push out a dozen more expansions instead.
I think there is something interesting to be said on the fact that WoW hasn't be de-throned. Many mmo's have been made in many different flavors both with and without polish, with and without successful launches, with and without hype, with different pay models and themes. Some copied Wow entirely, or partially or barely at all. Some were grindy, PvP, quest oriented etc. We have all debated what the next WoW killer would look like to death and seen some mmo released that contained of the features we thought would be it.
Yet all have failed or be a niche success. Was WoW just ........... lucky?
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I wonder which next failed project Tigole will work on now.
Yep I'm with the rest of you, and so far everyone is about right... From what I know the comment above and excuse me I'm stupid lol about Destiny was closer than you know, but mostly for the first Titan. It was a a post apocalyptic Diablo meets the future think guns but medieval armor open world mmo with all the current “in things” what is it called, like Destiny, Defiance, Borderlands style game play but it had melee weapons and stuff too, loot would fall on the ground ala Diablo games etc. My experiences were only with the original alpha on the original idea... I don't know much about the last year or so. But to me I think they "saw" what that game ultimate becomes, produces (monetarily) and maybe got scared off???
Just a guess. /sad
It is very difficult to draw someone away from an MMORPG that they're already entrenched in. So if a game just copies or slightly modifies the WoW formula what is the point for someone who is already familiar with WoW's mechanics, the gameplay and the community? The answer is there is no reason. WoW was different enough from EQ/DAoC/AC when it came out that it could draw away that audience. But also remember back when WoW came out Blizzard was a juggernaut known for putting out nothing but quality. They hooked people on the MMO genre who would have otherwise never have played an MMO in their life. It wasn't exactly luck but if WoW came out after the MMO bubble burst (ie: MMO was a well known and well established genre in the casual gamer group) it wouldn't have been nearly as successful. So they got people who knew nothing about MMOs, got them hooked and never let them go. I don't really know how many avid WoW players became MMO fans or if they're simply WoW fans.
Not to mention WoW is the best MMO to be put out in the history of the genre.
I bet they thought 7 years ago WoW would be finished and be in maintenance mode and they would need to release a new MMO. WoW is still running strong so why compete with your own product?
maybe they can now free up enough resources to port hearthstone to android, and triple the wow patch content team from 1 person to 3. dare we dream, maybe even 4
i wonder whats gonna happen at blizzcon this year, do they have anything new to talk about?
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I'm sure a lot of the resources from Titan can be enveloped into WOW/D3/etc, and some of the writing can be modified and used. The big question is what's next?
I wonder how much were actually on the team since last years "scrap it and go back to the drawing board" approach. AFAIK that is where much of the Heroes of the Storm team got their crew. Which I believe is about 100 people are on that game now.
So... what the fuck was titan? C'mon, man. I can keep a secret.
No HotS is damn fun. It is going to be a massive hit.
I thought I'd be more depressed about this, but maybe it's just the fact we never really saw anything about the game that makes it feel so irrelevant. Probably that and the fact that I could never be competitive like I once was in WoW's early days due to time constraints.
I am a long time Dota player, and got to play HOTS for the first time last weekend. It doesn't suck. The depth might not be there, but the fun factor is.
Titan was nothing more than rumors and farts in the wind. Can't say this cancellation does any more for me than the unveiling announcement did. Whole bunch of 'meh'.
Atleast we get an Utnayan Avatar change out of this.
Here's my idea of what column should change it to:
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Hey farts in the wind can be rather potent.
I just wonder what the other MMO's had to do with this decision? As a corporation that likes to make money, they clearly want to remain the biggest players in the MMO game.
Did they feel Titan was inferior to them and would have been a bust? Or did they feel WoW is still superior to all of them and will be for the foreseeable future? Depending on how you view this, it either speaks very highly or very lowly of products like EQ:Next and Destiny.
I thought this happened like a year ago? What am I thinking of?
Tiggles is running for BIGGEST IDIOT EVER and he needs your help!
Let's make Me Quit Life together!
If you pay attention and read between the lines it's not Titan that got killed (bc that was killed last year), but the scifi shooter quasi MOBA 1sdt+3rd person view type of game that they were still considering.
You should have given him a Paul Sage avatar.
With this news I declare the MMO genre DEAD. 7 years and Blizzard couldn't churn out another MMO? RIP MMO's.
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A third rate Destiny? Destiny is a third rate Destiny. It wouldn't take much to best it.
P.S. Microsoft bought a brand with Minecraft, sorry if you can't see it for what it is. They'll make bank on product, which stretches far beyond a videogame.
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The only rumour I ever remember having heard about Titan was that it was supposed to be a sort of merging of WoW and Starcraft, but with new IP. Mucking about in space and shit. That must have been about a year after Titan was first announced. Haven't heard shit since.
Not arguing that, they'll stretch it on all directions and it'll never be limited to an Xbox product. They bought an absolutely absurd install base that hands over money like it's going out of style.
Last year I was at Disney World for Halloween and I swear every other kid was rocking a Minecraft costume.
Minecraft the movie will be coming soon.
I was at dinner and the kid at the table next to mine just had his Minecraft PS3 jewel case out for whatever reason
For me this pretty much just confirms my feeling that Blizzard is done as a manufacturer who makes games for hardcore gamers. Diablo 3 was a farce. Hearthstone is MTG for retarded people. SC2 was never supported properly and was a shell of what it should have been. Now the one company who could 100% make a AAA MMO that people would actually give a chance is bailing on the genre.
Good luck to them and their casual friendly bullshit. Shit can be fun time wasting but it isn't the sort of thing we used to be able to count on from Blizzard.
I can't believe they worked on it for 7 years and we still have no idea wtf it was all about...
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Really impressed they had a 7 year development cycle and still the public knows nothing about the game. I would've imagined there's at least one dev who put his heart and soul in the game hoping to be the new designer of scarlet monastery and got his work thrown in the trash because of money, management, drama, whatever.
I always thought Titan was Blizzard's own version of Bill Brasky.
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What are they doing instead? WoW will die eventually, there's no way around it. And I don't believe for a second they're making as much money with that shitty cardgame as they're making with WoW, even in its declining state.
Small budget, big returns. Hearthstone is great for Blizzard.
Is Hearthstone:Blizzard::Steam:Valve? In that they neglect their core games in favor of something with a higher profit margin?
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