Poverty is relative and so is wealth.
You can take the girl out of the trailer but you can't take the trailer out of the girl.
Also, other phrases.
i dunno if this should be moved to the sports forum or if it can stay here.
with all the NFL athletes fucking up. i guess the NBA athletes got jealous and wanted to show that they can be scumbags too.
Ex-NBAer Rex Chapman allegedly stole from Apple Stores by faking EasyPaywhat the fuck is going on here? dont these guys make enough money that they can enjoy their successful lives and not be thugs?Remember when Apple introduced its EasyPay self-checkout feature in 2011, and everyone wondered "how can they really tell if a customer is buying something or just shoplifting?" According to the Scottsdale, AZ police, former college and professional basketball player Rex Chapman had the same thought and acted on it. They arrested the 12-year NBA veteran at 1:45 PM local time, after employees recognized him as a former player for the Phoenix Suns and tied him to a string of thefts. Chapman accused of committing seven instances of theft over a few months, snagging gear worth more than $14,000 and selling it at a local pawnshop for cash. All of this was allegedly done by picking up the items, pretending to use the self-checkout feature in the iPhone's Apple Store app and then just walking out. Now Chapman is facing nine counts of Organized Retail Theft and five counts of Trafficking in Stolen Property -- all of which are felonies -- and we're wondering if Tim Cook has another security issue that could use some attention.
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Poverty is relative and so is wealth.
You can take the girl out of the trailer but you can't take the trailer out of the girl.
Also, other phrases.
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A surprisingly high amount of rich athletes end up broke pretty fast. There are a shit ton of articles on it.
Shouldn't be a surprise at all that this happens when you consider who your average athlete is - a guy who's spent his life playing his sport and only ever cracked a book when it had naked women on the cover.Sports Illustrated estimated in 2009 that 78 percent of NFL players are bankrupt or facing serious financial stress within two years of ending their playing careers and that 60 percent of NBA players are broke within five years of retiring from the game.
The legal system should handle it, the NFL isn't the police and shouldn't be tasked with extra-judicial punishment. I just don't agree with the NFL suspending people for doing something they haven't been convicted of yet.
If you think Ray Rice got off too easily for spitting on and knocking out his fiancee, that is a problem with the law and the courts, not something for Goodell and the NFL to fix.
goodell should step down for ever messing in these affairs. he suspended rice half assed, then drops the bomb on one dude for smoking some weed off season. then the ray rice footage ends up on TMZ and he fucks up even more for giving the guy an indefinite suspension. the NBA is no better. dude was a lifetime racist, everyone knew, shit ends up on tv and these fucking league officials all pretend to be shocked and oust sterling, forcing him to make 2 billion dollars. i dunno whats worse, these fucked up athletes or these officials who make these terrible kneejerk decisions.
i hope rice sues the shit out of goodell. guy made 44 mil last year. hopefully rice soaks him for all its worth.
Athletes going broke is no different from people who win the lotto going broke or people who lose their $450,000 a year job and only make $200,000 at their new job going broke.
Retards like to live as if they'll be pulling in large sums of money every year (just enough to cover their expenditures) so as soon as one drop of income is gone, they start losing it all.
You can take the trash out of the ghetto but you can't take the ghetto out of the trash.
i think that article was stretching a little by drawing a comparison between some chick getting all slap happy while shes drunk to some 300+ pound monster whomping on 4 year olds nuts with a tree branch. but yeah its a double standard, for a reason.
That "some chick" is also a world class athlete.
Why people give the NFL and NBA money is something that I will probably never understand.
I was never into sports, nor was my father or my grandfathers. One grandfather liked to watch Indy Car Races. That's as close as it got. And to be fair, those are pretty neat little cars.
Actually sports as we know it now really didn't happen until cities started forming and we moved away from hunter gathrer society. Essentially when people got their first day off.
Still pretty old though.
I don't know where you are getting I'm suggesting it's okay for Hope Solo to do what she did and not be admonished for it. I'm speaking about the "double standard". Let's not forget that Ray Rice was getting a wrist slap until the video surfaced and the media took the NFL to task.
sports are not being discussed in this thread, just figures in the sports world.
I find if pretty fucked up how your place of employment gets into your private business. For example my place of employment can fire me if I get a DUI. It says so in the handbook. How fucked up is that?
I can see it from their point of view, not wanting some irresponsible loser to work for them, and a DUI is a pretty irresponsible thing to do. But everyone makes mistakes and I feel that this shit is getting too much into your personal shit.
If I got to work and do my job, do it well, and cause no problems, what business of theirs is it that I get fucked up one night and get a DUI (Or any other thing like domestic violence)? Isnt that what we have courts and civil punishment for? The only reason I could see getting fired for is If I missed extended periods of time from work because of courts and jail or some shit like that and did not have any vacation time left. and this obviously applies to the NFL or any other place of employment.
I don't understand why its a NFL or NBA issue and not just a police/jail issue.
Antoine Walker made $110 million in his career. Allen Iverson made over $200 million. Both are now in debt for 7 figures.
It's not just that they spend money like they'll be making $15 mil a year for their entire lives, but they get these huge entourages (50 people in Iverson's case) that drain their money as fast as they make it.
As far as DUI's go, that would pretty much be an insta-fire for my company, because many of our guys have to drive company vehicles or travel to job sites that are not transit accessible. If the employee is an otherwise good one, then maybe an exception can be made depending on circumstances, but that's a pretty huge knock against someone.
If I found out one of my guys got arrested and charged for beating the shit out of his wife? Yeah, I'd have a hard time hanging on to him. First because of the personal distaste I would have for it, second because of the potential impact on my company's reputation ("hey, I heard your site supervisor put his wife in the hospital, is that true?"), and third because that obviously means the guy has serious issues and it's only a matter of time until something else comes along.
For professional athletes, they are public figures. Keeping their lives together is part and parcel of being an athlete. If you can't manage that, then yes, don't be surprised when you're out on your ass because your team doesn't want to be associated with your radioactive public persona.Originally Posted by Nester
I read this thread title as "sports figurines who break the law" and now I sort of wish that was a thing.
I'd be cautious about firing people just on the accusation.
Semyon Varlamov's domestic violence case dropped - NHL on CBC Sports - Hockey news, opinion, scores, stats, standings
I do believe the whole "I'd have beaten you even more, if we were in Russia" part though. That just makes sense.
If someone asked me a question like that I would of said, "I will let the courts decide his punishment, its none of my business. As far as I know he does his job well, he comes in on time and he never posed a problem at work. If I had to fire every single person which allegedly gets in trouble with the law at one point or another, I would not have any workers.
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edit: fuck it, don't care
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Example, I had an employee awhile back where someone told me they heard him throw his bag against the wall in the bathroom and then spout out some things. Then the supervisor noticed he'd get up from his desk and shove his chair hard into the desk sometimes, muttering under his breath. People started to notice some of his jokes were less funny and more unsettling. Finally he flipped a table over in the break room one day when upset and swore, kicking it.
Outside of listening to those tips, the table incident could have been played off as an accident or a bad day. Add it with all the other indicators and bam, there's someone who could have easily taken out his rage on a coworker and gotten us sued. Without identifying and documenting that behavior, all from a tip from outside of work, we would have basically had to believe his story and who knows? Probably nothing, but you never know with types like that.
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Its the Internet age. People these days get fired for having a poor credit score.
The fact is that you're nothing but a number on a balance sheet to companies and if they get information that you're at a higher than average risk of doing something that could cost them a lot more money than they make off you, you're out. That's why Paterno and Sandusky got to rape kids and everyone ignored it, if you're making them millions they don't care. If you only represent a few thousand in profit to the company it won't take much for them to fire you.
The NFL didn't care about the DV until the media got involved and made the players a liability. Sports figures are much better off than the average person when it comes to keeping their job through personal problems, simply because they're worth more.
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I find it a bit unsettling that the reaction to 'my employee seem to have some troubles' is 'better fire him quick before he does something stupid' instead of 'let's see what seems to be the problem and if we can help him'.
same here, 75% of all professional Fußball players are not financially secured when they end their career.
Does that figure include the professional players across all the leagues or only the top league?
I remembered wrong, it was just 25% and the player union statement apparently didn't specifcy whether it was leagues 1 through X or just the first one.
That statement resulted in quite a few articles across all major papers, but little research was done on their part and apparently no one thought to ask.
How can you serve food with blood on your hands Quineloe? How?!
Hah, I never thought of it that way but yeah, if he really thought he had a cold blooded killer on his hands he probably should have tried not to piss that guy off.
Example, I lived next to it for 3-4 months(even made a thread about it). One incident I called the cops and they show up and the lady who was getting beat on lies to the police saying nothing is wrong, even going as far as to try to lie to them saying her boyfriend isnt home. Another time I called the cops she blamed her neighbors(me) for simply harassing her.
Yeah, I kind of have to agree with Big P here. That sort of shit is a pretty good indication that the person is a fucked up person, and quite honestly, as a small business owner it is not my responsibility to babysit or help people fix up their personal lives. It just isn't. I've got enough problems dealing with my own business, I can't act as a life or relationship counsellor for the handful of my employees that are fuck ups.
Yeah, if someone is "getting in trouble with the law" and it makes it's way back to me in one way or another, there's a pretty good chance that they are a gigantic fuck up. I mean seriously, how you do just stumble in to "alleged" problems with the law unless you're a fuck up?Originally Posted by Mkopec
So not only is his personal life fucking him in the ass, now his boss is about to take his turn.
First, what you describe is not even close to experiencing DV first hand, so go fuck yourself.
Second, calling the cops on your neighbors for being loud is not in the same universe as trying to reason with them. So go fuck yourself again.
Third, he wasn't even talking about exclusively about domestic violence, he was talking about the situation where an otherwise good employee is clearly having some sort of trouble at home and co workers are noticing it. In the story palum told, he never said or implied there was domestic violence. So, L2Read and then go fuck yourself.
Fourth, if reasoning with people involved in domestic violence is useless, why does domestic violence counseling work? I mean sure, there are some people who are just violent assholes, who get nothing out of it. But those people don't only beat their loved ones, they get into fights with everyone else too. For them, domestic violence is just another entry on the rap sheet. The counseling is still useful for helping the victims get out of the situation. So, go fuck yourself one more time.
Where did he say anything about him "clearly" having problems at home? The problem with thinking you can rationalize with people who beat their wives/kids is they aren't rational when they're actually doing it. They're usually in a state of anger and acting impulsively
It's like telling a sober person how to act when they're drunk. Only you can quit drinking, you can't quit having things make you mad for the rest your life
MWS Natural "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving black people approaches 1."
He was a server at a catering place. Those people get fired all the fucking time. And as I said, I don't think he actually got fired, that was just what the guy's reaction to the beginning of the story was, which I thought was pretty funny.
Putin Allies Let Abuse Law Linger Despite Killings - Bloomberg
Nice country you have there. But I mean, in a country of alcoholic rednecks, why would anyone be surprised that domestic violence is a serious problem?Russia is the only member of the Group of Eight nations where family violence or domestic sexual abuse isn’t recognized as a separate crime. Former Soviet states including Moldova, Kyrgyzstan and Ukraine have criminalized it. Even Saudi Arabia, where women can’t drive or appear in public unveiled, made it a crime two months ago, punishable by as long as a year in prison and as much as a 50,000-riyal ($13,300) fine.
Women in Russia need such a law more than most, said Marina Pisklakova-Parker, head of the Moscow-based Anna Center for victims of domestic abuse. A popular proverb in the country of 142 million -- “He beats her means he loves her” -- underscores how widespread the conviction is that physical violence isn’t necessarily anything to worry about in a marriage, and certainly shouldn’t be the state’s business.
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Shit Tyronivych, get it together.
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