First pic? "OK, but I'll need to see more."
Second pic? "Whoops -- I don't need to see any more"
Third pic? "Her games must be pretty fucking bad"
Debated putting this or other games or screenshots, but hopefully the discussion will be a little more productive here (only a little, I hope)
For those that don't know, Zoe Quinn is an "Feminist/SJW Indie Game Developer" - recently it's come out that's she's slept with at least 5 guys in the industry, including her married boss, and a reviewer at Kotaku/Rock Paper Shotgun. some of which may or may not have provided her with industry favours such a positive reviews, exposure for her game, and the opportunity to make paid talks at conferences.
Everywhere I go this shit is exploding, I'm shocked that we aren't picking it apart being the assholes that we are. Pretty shady stuff she's been pulling and the gaming media industry seems to be in full damage control mode.
Just for your viewing pleasure (because we've always loved this shit, and it's pretty juicy) The basic (long) story is here
The best video as to why this is a bad thing is now below:
Various SJW are attacking/defending her, Reddit, 4chan, Kotaku, and the like are censoring talk about it, take down notices were issued for "copyright" on at least one youtube channel, twitters have been deleted, and the internet monkeys are jumping up and down and slinging shit all over the place.
Phil Fish jumped in to defend her (of Fez infamy) and now TotalBiscuit is under attack as well, for some fairly well-reasoned comments he has made.
Longest thread I've seen about it is in the escapist, where they are letting discussion continue if you behave yourself, but I'd rather see the rerolled shit slinging version.
and, the promise (disappointing and somewhat old) nudes:
Edit: Let's throw in a few more links shall we?
EDIT: No NSFW posts outside of Rickshaw or SS. - Soygen
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First pic? "OK, but I'll need to see more."
Second pic? "Whoops -- I don't need to see any more"
Third pic? "Her games must be pretty fucking bad"
I edited the pics out. You can put them back as links and note they are NSFW, but you cannot post NSFW content outside of Screenshots or Rickshaw.
How did this flabby, unattractive, soggy clam become worthy of so much melodrama?
Some nerds need to get their shit together.
Woman uses sex in exchange for favors? News at 11.
She must be down for anything because her looks sure as shit ain't getting her in bed.
That's multiplies the desperation by a factor of at least 5.
OP mentioned married dude(s?). That raises the opportunity cost more than somewhat. I mean, unless you married someone uglier than her.
Not Fat + Into Video Games makes her at least a 7 in the geek world.
I bet she has tons of zelda shirts.
So... After reading the op... I have to ask what the fuss is? Why are people like total biscuit being hated on for this? Maybe it's because I've been out of high school for over a decade but this seems all juvenile. ITS A HUGE SCANDAL!!! Really?
Considering the 'sleeping for good reviews' is not backed by facts and that her sex life his her own business, I can't help but feel this is a manufactured witch hunt fulled by a lot of bored undersexed misogynists. A lot of good for gamer stereotypes that does!
Is the game any good though? I think it's some kind of serious game on depression?
Person sleeps with 5 people of the opposite sex within that person's industry.
Nice comment here from Editor of The Escapist:
The Escapist ran a story about Quinn's harassment in late 2013 with little evidence other than her word. We will always default towards helping out people who are the subject of harassment on the internet. I do not support behavior of that kind and will strive to protect those who are feeling the effects of it. We will signal-boost those incidents because I think it's important to create change, and will only choose not to post such stories if I decide they will do more harm to the situation.
I continue to ask that you consider whether your actions in crafting a false narrative are helping anything. How will arguing about this situation on this forum make the world a better place? It just doesn't make sense to me why it's so important that this person is tried before a jury of the internet and found guilty of her alleged crimes. The parties directly involved have already resolved any personal issue they had, or I hope they are at least working towards it now. That is all that's important.
What you think is happening just isn't true. There is no conspiracy. There is no breach in ethics. There is nothing wrong except that a small group of posters on the internet think there is.
Contrary to your claims, harassment and abuse on the internet are very real things that cause actual harm to people. It's important for you to see how participating in crafting this story contributes to harmful actions and deeds. Please respect all people going forward."
Pretty good for a journalist. I especially like the way she shat all over the fine young capitalists game project.
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Wow I barely cared when /r/gaming was having a boner over this and after reading this I care even less.
People cheat on eachother all the time. People lie. People use their sexuality to gain favors.
This is the stupidest fucking bullshit manufactured ass drama I've ever read, I wasted time reading that.
The only reason this is getting any air time is because nerds never get laid so they're all excited about the word "cum collage" and nude pictures of a "nerd chick."
I had to fuck Tuco several times to even get into the running for a moderator position.
What tipped me over to posting here rather than screenshots was hoping to get a bit more of a mature discussion about it rather than the raving witch hunt all over the rest of the internet, on both sides.
Here's what got TotalBiscuit into trouble: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1s4nmr1
By 'get into trouble' I guess you mean a 'bunch of static from the internet'. Oh no. What will he do now?
That Youtube video is physically painful to listen to. That guy is obviously completely rational. I love it when he goes on a tirade against Phil Fish that the reason PF isn't making Fez 2 is because PF is a one-hit wonder and isn't able to make more games. All because PF defended the ugly woman he is convinced has the entire gaming industry twirled around her clit.
What a dumb fucking non-story.
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I thought when I read what was posted there was going to be this awesome reveal about how crazy the video game journalism field is with their wanton sexual escapades fueling everything.
Instead I got a nerd that was butthurt that he fucked a WHORE.
I shy away from the sex drama part of this (although it's played up a bit for Rerolled, we like things juicy after all), I'm more interested in whether this affects the industry and what, if anything, should be done. This one is a nice little bit of drama though: https://twitter.com/cvankeeken/statu...46186131615745
I like how phil fish went from white knighting her to extreme full retard.
Oh god, I read the article how TB's summary got him in trouble, just for saying "I'm not touching this shitstorm, false DMCA claims are bad" and the indie game devs went full retard. I have no idea how this is an issue, RPS sits firmly on interjection of SJW and gaming, which is why I stopped reading that crap, Depression Quest is free, so everyone can make up their own mind, Kotaku publishes bullshit that doesn't even make it /r/gaming. Phil Fish is a rambling hermit living shagging small woodland creatures. From what I heard it's a choose your own adventure type of game, so while it is commendable that there's a game talking about depression, you can't get a medal for just participating.
This is why we need AAA gaming, so PR guys can stop developers from being retards.
I don't know who any of these people are, except TotalBiscuit.
Phil Fish made Fez, rather smart indie platformer a year or two back, then famously had a meltdown when somebody trolled him on twitter, scrapped the sequel and quit making games. He went full Cartman: "Fuck you guys, I'm going home" and this: Fez creator: | GamesBeat | Games | by D. F. Smith
I heard about this and never gave a shit. And then I perused this thread and still don't give a shit. Seems like manufactured bullshit drama to me. If she was hot (which she definitely is not) then I might have cared.
P.S. The reason I don't care is because people have been fucking each other and fucking each other over to get ahead in every conceivable industry known to man since the dawn of time. That it might be happening in the video game industry is the nadir of surprising.
As pathetic as this is, it still cannot touch the level of shame and self loathing that Shelley1989's boyfriend has. Sure, ZQ is white trailer trash, but...WHY DOES BISI STILL HAVE PICS OF SHELLEY1989?
Looks like she's got some great new source material for Depression Quest 2.
This just in: People who have the ability to hole up in their cellar for 3 years making a massive and unique game solo may be fucked in the head and lack social skills.
But I don't think it's unique to gamers, really. Movie buffs, food critics and the like all exhibit similar behaviours. Maybe the lesson is to not become obsessive about any one thing?
Goddamnit, he said it better and quicker.Originally Posted by Elerion
i was really sad when i first clicked that five guys video on neogaf on monday and realized it wasn't going to talk about how awesome 5 Guys Burgers are
entire thing is dumb as rocks, the guys attacking this ugly stupid chick are all redpill mens rights activists (r u being oppressed guis) and most of the people defending her are retarded neckbeard/fatty-tumblrista social justice warriors. both sides need to be killed off in a purge, leaving only erudite gamers like us and hot bisexual cosplay girls
I just got Fez on PS4 as one of this month's "free" PS+ games. It is a very cool game.
Too bad you won't be getting Fez 2.
eh. I want to care. I might read up on this later. I visited for the nudes and dropped a throwaway line. That SillySlader picture actually sounds pretty bad.
So Phil Fish is a neckbearded hipster white knight?
I'm not even gonna pretend like I'm pulling in 10s, but that is some disappointing fucking nudes there. Her face does a mediocre body no favors. Also I didn't read any of the drama as it sounds.... well, normal I guess.
This chick is simply the Rav of the indie gaming world. She supposedly faked being mugged to get money, started up a bogus womens gaming event or whatever and used her personal paypal account for the donations, etc.
After reading this all, i finally realized i dont care. People are stupid everywhere, people lie, people cheat, why do people think the gaming industry having this happen is any different from anywhere else?
She rode that D as far as she could and got benefits? Shrug some hoes do it for free, so it seems like shes ahead of the curve!
Phil Fish is the most gamma weenus I've seen in a long goddamn time.
Phil Fish just needs a good old fashioned ass-kicking. Not that it would help him, but I'd like to see it.
I finally viewed those images even though I first opened this thread at work when they were embedded in the spoilers.
Now all I can think is I'm gonna get brought into HR and they're gonna say "Why were you looking at this?"
Getting fired over the worst nudes I have ever seen in my life.
This is pretty dull. I must be out of the game world.
I got this from somewhere else haven't read each bit
Here is a time line of events for those of you reading this story and would like to inquire more.
Liar, manipulator, hypocrite.
Post by the boyfriend highlighting manipulative behavior, gained attention because of WHO she slept with, notably her Boss who has deleted his Twitter and gone silent, 1 writer who has admitted to being intimate with her and 3 other guys who all work in the industry:
Bullying and lying about a depressed community while promoting her game about depression:
Zoe Quinn is a liar - Imgur
Ruining a game jam for women and doxing someone:
Taking down MundaneMatt’s video while no one else would take the story:
Connection with a moderator from Reddit’s /r/gaming subreddit:
Connection with a janitor from 4chains:
Doxing herself with FAKE INFO:
Evidence further reinforcing the "Phil hacked himself" theory
Proof it’s fake:
Contacting Internet Archive to get articles removed:
People from the industry even donate to her:
Support Zoë Quinn creating Games, Writing, Weird Tech Stuff
Notable people who donated:
Vlambeer, which is made up of this guy. - https://i.imgur.com/H5j5zul.jpg
Phillippe Poisson who is actually PHIL FISH! - Phil Fish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Anthony Burch - https://i.imgur.com/yIg74M7.jpg
Ben Kuchera - https://i.imgur.com/PMiwVN4.png
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It's really a disgusting little mob they have going on there. And I thought I was bored!
I was 21. Had multiple opportunities prior to that, but I wasn't ready.
I care even less than Grimmlokk says I do, but initially I read that guy's name as Phil Flash. And after reading the rest of the thread, I'm going to keep misreading it that way, because that's about the only way this situation becomes even remotely interesting.
Back off, SoyBitch, she's mine.
Edit: Fixed double negative.
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I was 20 and my main happened to be on Eredar.
4chan doing some good.
Edit: Spoilered for size.
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She's gross as shit. This is why there had not been a thread.
Seems more like an ugliest escorts in your hometown contribution.
This seems like great comedy. Some loser posts some long thing about how some slut is a slut. Slut successfully slept with men because men can be like that. Now OP talks about people being up in arms? lol
This isn't news, and the articles reporting on it are doing so because it involves gamers and sex and might result in clicks. Other than the wife of the married dude, no one gives a fuck. Even if the Kotaku person give her a good review, that's hardly the first or last time and Kotaku isn't exactly a pillar of integrity anyway.
Anyway, it was a fun read and a reminder of how sane everyone in my life is in comparison to some crazies out and Zoe is not nearly the craziest. She's just a slut, the dude who wrote that 50 page story with links and pictures is creepy and should never be left alone with children.
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[Blog Plz!]: This game supports more than two players
TotalBiscuit seems to be the only person trying to understand both sides instead of just spewing bullshit, even though it's a bit long, it's well worth reading
So a bunch of white dude virgins in their parents basements with anime avatars complain about girls and embarrass themselves in front of the world... how is this any different than what Men's Rights Activists do every day?
Fish lays out the truth about Loser Gamer Culture and a bunch of loser bros here start crying. What a surprise.
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