I think it's pointless, there was even a Dota 2 thread in the competitive gaming subforum that died because all the discussion can be done in a single thread, there isn't that much traffic.
There has been some interest by a few people to split away MOBAs and TCGs into their own separate forum. This would mean that there will be MMORPG, Other Games, and whatever we call this new section. This will not be a sub forum of Other Games like Competitive Gaming.
Most likely I will probably move or merge another forum to keep the vertical space the same on the main directory.
So the question is, is there enough demand from MOBA/TCG fans to have their own forum and is there enough demand from Other Game members to get rid of the TCG/MOBAs from their forum? The poll will be a simple Yes/No for two weeks.
Well this would be it's own forum like Other Games and MMORPG, it wouldn't be buried as a subforum like Competitive Gaming. Sub forums are mostly there for people who want their own section for guilds, fantasy sports, book clubs or whatever. This allows the to organize outside the normal traffic and it doesn't matter if they are buried.
This would be more open on top of the main forum list if the vote goes for Yes.
So that forum would have how many threads? LOL, DOTA2, Hearthstone, Magic, HOTS and a few short lived threads for those trying to get into the market, yet will fail.
Yet this will have too many games in it for multiple threads per game, that would be way confusing.
Is there a vbulletin option to add filters? For instance rename the thread "[MOBA] DOTA2" and users can filter out MOBA's and not see those threads?
No. The nature of this forum, to have mega threads for each topic or game goes against what a sub forum to me would mean. In a sub forum, I feel I could create a new thread with a title something like, Pudge mid strats and questions, and yet due to the nature of this forum, I feel I'd be crucified for doing something like that and not just asking it in the mega Dota2 thread that already exists.
Not sure that's an option though.
League of Legends
Magic The Gathering
Heroes of the Storm
Maybe some other mobile games I don't know anything about.
I don't know if people might want to break down to multiple threads. Up to people. In any case this is for people who would like to see it, and for people who want to get rid of those threads from other games.
Can we we segment it into arpg/moba/tcg and then let the rest of the games in that sub forum go about their business?
I'm interested in all three categories, could give less of a shit about the rest of the games in that sub-forum.
Eh. If you want to lump D3 and Exile and maybe Marvel? I don't know. I can label it Online Games that arn't typical MMORPGs but I haven't seen anyone else request that. If it's something enough people want to do, sure. Otherwise no.
Other Online Games sounds like a great idea. Call the other thread "Singleplayer Shit House". :-D
The problem with discussing advanced strats for multiplayer here is that there are far better platforms for that. Liquiddota/reddit/steam guides all give you better information, at best you end up pointing people there when they ask, which is already done regularly. One nice thing would be live report threads for esport events, but those already sort of happen or you can setup a chat room on steam.
How about a new forum for Console games? Other Games has always been a junk drawer of large threads for random games...And I like it that way.
Nope. No need. There's not enough traffic. And if you expand the list of forums by one more my monitor will burst.
This is such a stupid crusade some folk have jumped on in the last couple weeks. Who gives a fuck if the threads in other games are about games you don't play? They've always been that way, the fact they're in specific genres makes no GD difference. Do they think there will suddenly be better games to discuss that are being choked out by Hearthstone talk? Shit's ridiculous. Games that are worth talking about and have an active player base get talked about(Last of Us has been up here for 16 months), other games get 9 posts and fade away. The only difference is those 9 post games would sit on the front page longer, accomplishing nothing.
Aren't 95% of console games available on PC? I think a specific console forum would be largely redundant, and would harm traffic more than help it.
I feel like even just a "single player games" and "online MP games". would leave the single player game forum a near deadzone.
Trying to make moba/tcg their own seems weird as well.
Its not like we have 5 LoL threads going at once.
Maybe a sticky or two for the less populated, but still fairly popular thread topics.
So, they don't get buried under the stuff that gets constant updates. and we have a easy place to talk about things along a similar theme.
So instead of pillars of eternity getting 5 posts and forgotten till someone bumps it. it goes into either rpg, or kickstarter/early access and stays more visible.
Last edited by Caliane; 08-20-2014 at 05:19 PM.
Meh, look at page 2 of other games right now. Even big titles are getting pushed out (Destiny, Witcher 3, Day). I think it's a valid argument.
I will only support this change if we can call the new MOBA/TCG forum Games4fags.
As for "big" games pushed off the front page, post more? If there were people interested in discussing them they wouldn't fall off the front page. If there's not enough to talk about to generate the 1-2 posts a day it takes to stay on the first page it's not because the forum isn't catering to the game. It's because there's not enough to talk about with the people here.
Hey man, some of us want to participate but not provide any real impact on the situation.
Last edited by Vitality; 08-20-2014 at 06:13 PM.
I vote to consolidate the mmo and other games forums.
I just want a sub-forum where I don't have to scroll past 4 or 5 stickies to get to the real shit.
Last edited by Vitality; 08-20-2014 at 06:59 PM.
There's a bit shortage in Madagascar, and all you white imperialists want to go smattering forums everywhere.
Console games or Board/Pen and Paper games make more sense as new forums only because console tends to make up a substantial part of Other and board games seem to be scattered around from Other to Books etc.
what the fuck. lets make more forums that people have navigate to get to actual discussion
you know what, i'm for this if we make a new forum for every game and have new mods for each of those forums with global mod powers
I dont know ~ I voted Yes, but thats because I just get tired of see/dealing with people that play them all the time. But yet, it doesnt seem like we really have a huge need for a separate forum for it. If that makes sense?...
I think I'd rather see a split of online/single player games, with maybe a thread of each in case of games having a major focus on both sides or entirely different games, like say Mass Effect 3 back when it was released. Result would be roughly the same, since TCG/MOBAs are multiplayer games, but would add stuff like FPS when a new Battlefield is released, Diablo/PoE when they release new patches and shit like that.
Don't really care either way, even though more forums means it's more annoying to check every new threads, but eh.
I voted no. I don't really care about moba/tcgs, but if you split them I believe that those threads will get decreased viewership.
The forum ebbs and flows, doesn't mean we need a new forum section.
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Remember when Diablo 3, starcraft 2 and ff14 all had their own sub forums? They're hot for a couple months and then they just drop off.
The only one I understand is the EQ sub forum. Best keep all that venom segregated from the rest of the board.
Honest question... Why not? Other than what seem to be arbitrary personal QOL reasons, I don't think I understand what harm it would do. Right now, if you are looking for some specific dota info, you have to sift through the huge, single thread. Is there a reason why splitting that giant thread into smaller topics that are easier to look through and can then each flow naturally in different ways would be a bad thing?
Dota / League players tend to be a bit more on the obsessive side when it comes to consuming content specifically for the game they play. Maybe instead of a forum we could do a Question/Answer Thread - for each game as an option instead of a whole forum. Even though there may be "better" places, its probably easier to ask whatever here than somewhere else frequented by thousands of more people at once. Sure maybe people give a bit less than perfect advice, but I don't see the harm in that really. I am not sure there needs to be a second forum entirely.
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I don't really care for mobas, but if the kids like to play them and would use the board, I don't see the harm.
It could give them a place to talk about them without clogging up the other game forum.
wtf. clogging up the forum? it's not like the other games forum is fucking moving so fast you can't keep up (hi 2u neogaf which gets by with ONE fucking forum). lets revisit adding more useless shit to click through when we have another 25k users
Just rename the competitive forum to the boring ass moba games forum and switch out the relevant games to the main game forum(aka the fighting game thread).
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Sean is welcome back any time.
Keeping the forum eclectic is a benefit that outweighs whatever bookkeeping gain you'd get out of segregating the topics.
I couldn't give a shit about competitive Mobas or fighting games or ccg's but I'll admit to reading up on a popular thread when circumstances bump it up during a sale or a tournament. Likewise I know a few folks who wouldn't care about xcom or strategy gaming have admitted they gave it a try after wandering into certain discussions.
Honestly I wouldn't complain against be merging a lot of the gaming threads together.
From what I understand, Sean wasn't banned (though he did have his moderator privileges stripped). After that he left of his own free will. So I doubt he'll be back. Sean was a great, quality, poster but was terrible as a mod. He really did bring a lot to the forum but he also really overstepped his bounds.
Just simply putting everything under a specific drop down menu similar, frame, under the main thread would solve a lot of problems. You click on the down arrow next to EverQuest Next and it displays the frame below it, allowing certain threads to be created that wouldnt normally be created on their own. (A thread for a specific class for example). The frame displays the most popular threads connected to EverQuest Next, plus EQ Next itself is a thread. If you want to get rid of the frame, you can hide it via the same arrow. If you want to see all the sub threads for EQ Next, you can click View Forum. It keeps the user on the same page and makes important information quickly accessible. The forum used to have useful information, but it would quickly be buried. I think if the forum was displayed this way, that the forum could once again become a source of useful information and strategies.
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As for Sean, he just got embarrassed and bailed. Or self righteous and bailed. Either way no one made him leave. And certainly no one made him go through his posts and delete them to teach the forum a lesson about how much it would miss him.
As much as I'd like to say he'd be welcomed back with open arms it would depend on him being able to take the retarded abuse that would come his way at this point. Which...I mean...it would just lead to giant stupid derails constantly I think. To the point he'd probably be better off just picking a new name, which I'd frankly encourage for his situation.
Well if it was really popular, I wouldnt mind matching donations for it to be done. Granted the person that creates it is reliable, experienced and not obscenely expensive. Ive been with the original forum and this one, ever since I was in the guild. It is the least I could do.
I'm behind branching off some of the topics, Other Games seems to be one of the most popular forums other then general and SS. There are only a few threads I read in there, and if they aren't one of the big ones, they get bumped off the front page pretty quick. I.e. MTG thread when there isn't spoilers or some big event.
I'd also like to see a semi active minis thread, but I think the lower traffic those threads get push them off the front page too quickly in that forum. Either taking out a couple of the big threads due to making this forum, or lumping those games into the new, would both work.
Or threads that people actually post in can stay where they are based on activity, you know like a forum?
The juggernaut that is the Puzzle & Dragons thread is finally losing steam. It's falling off the front page a couple times a week and only getting a few posts. Even the mighty fall eventually.
The strength these forums has always been the Mega Threads... A single place for to have super-long conversations. It's been very easy to hop into a mega thread wherever I've left off before and read until I'm caught up. Having multiple threads is going to be terrible.
If I want Syndra builds I'm not going to come to rerolled at all. There are a slew of better sites out there with much more information. You can create a subforum, sure, but I'm not sure it's necessary. You can easily move the mega discussions over and those topics will continue to flourish, but all of the miscellaneous discussions will likely be lost OR the mega threads will start hurting due to people choosing to create random threads rather than just posting in the mega thread.
My prediction would be that eventually people will realize their random discussions aren't being seen unless they post in the mega-threads and the random discussions will cease being created.
In the end, the decision is if you want the mega threads in their own sub-forum? It really doesn't matter to me. Sometimes I get annoyed when I see that the LoL thread is on the 2nd page, but that's all you'll solve.
I voted no but...
If anything I'd like to see mobile gaming get it's own subforum, before moba/tcg/ I think segregating those types of games is relevant, since the platform is different. Or maybe just make mobile devices forum in general, which could take the smartphone thread out of tech too. And give more viewing time to smaller/independant apps, people would still visit for megathreads like Puzzle and Dragons, and smartphone general thread, so I think it'd still get more use than say, the book forum.
While I think moba/tcg/real life games (minis/rpgs/etc.) should get it's own forum, I think some of the more dead forums should get combined at the same time. We have like 5 super active forums, and a bunch of barely active ones. Other games gets more posts/threads then any other forum. Branching off a little of that just makes sense. None of the super threads will die off, like some are afraid of. It'll just give some of the smaller threads a little more time on the front page before they fade into oblivion.
If you combine the less active forums at the same time, it would result in more overall discussion. Worthwhile threads get pushed off the front page within a day because they aren't one of the 8-10 super threads in there. If we follow the logic of the argument for keeping it together, then we'd just want to combine everything into one big forum for maximum activity. That obviously doesn't work, so it's a matter of whether Other Games is big enough to handle being broken up, and considering it's the most popular of any forum on here, then yes it can.
A few times previously, a forum has gotten a huge spike in activity (such as SC2) so it got broken off, but that was a bit of a knee jerk reaction to a new game's popularity. Other Games has consistently been the busiest forum for a long time. It's a bit too wide of a subject now that MMOs are no longer the main subject of the site.
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