I appreciate that the OP linked the trailer. 10/10.
Let's move the riot to this thread.
I appreciate that the OP linked the trailer. 10/10.
Is that the ex-perp rapping? The only picture I've seen of him was that video where he robbed the convenience store, but he looked bigger. Maybe the arab he was intimidating was just especially tiny.
these guys are honoring the memory of their thug hero by looting as much as they fucking can. and the governor cut the cops balls off so now there is nothing to stop them.
Police presence in question during overnight looting in Ferguson | FOX2now.com
so michael brown was not an honor student who was ready to start college?
color me shocked.
Am I a racist if I don't like the cops for shooting him AND don't like the residents who are being fucktarded looting and rioting? I've read that holding either side responsible makes me a racist and unamercian, so I guess I will side with CNN because at least they are open about race baiting.
Reports are coming in that Michael was talking to his girlfriend, Rachel "Diamond Eugene" Jeantel, on his cell moments before he was shot.
The lawyer for the alleged non-accomplice was on CNN kept referring to the kid as "Big Mike". That probably isn't the best image to go with.
Isn't there a video of brown saying some kill whitey type shit? I heard a clip on the radio, but to be honest I was out of town, so I don't know if the radio show I was listening to was reputable.
Here's the real talk:
There's a good chance the cops were being overly aggressive assholes when they shot MB.
Rioters are assholes for using this as an opportunity to rob their own community
MB was a criminal asshole who was bound for the prison system.
Solution: nuke ferguson
I read that the Ferguson police has on-body cameras, but they've not implemented them yet. It's the only way we're going to get any accountability out of the police force.
It's also been reported that the people who were arrested for looting and rioting were primarily from other parts of the city and one from Texas. I think of the 9 or 10 arrested, one or two were local to the 'burb. There are several far more dangerous? places around that area. Keep in mind that while some folks consider these areas sketchy, as long as you are going about your daily business and not acting the fool, it's not a big deal.
been reading around that there is at least 4 eyewitness accounts now that all confirm the same thing. cops grabs MB from the car, MB fights back, starts to run, 2 shots fired, he turns around, gets 5-6 more in the chest
i mean the kid just committed robbery and fought a cop, but that still doesnt deserve a Judge Dredd-ing in the streets.
3 years in a isocube at most.
"Well I'm Black and he is Black so he couldn't possible have stolen anything, even though he is acting aggressively and the store called the police reporting him for robbery. Black people just don't commit crimes, it's all racism."
We had a worse thing in the UK where a white trash criminal was shot because he had a gun, so all of the white trash in England (we have a lot) started rioting and looting stuff. Then there was a court case with the family hamming up how awful it was that their son was shot when he was only carrying an illegal gun to a drug deal and couldn't possibly have been a threat to the police who shot him.
So last night protesters were fighting looters while the cops left the streets. The cops would be hard pressed to fuck this up more if they tried.
I dunno, he'd have to be pretty stupid to decide to charge someone with a gun drawn from 30 ft away. Unless he was on PCP, I don't buy it.
i think the fighting inside the car thing was made up to justify the use of deadly force in the report.
looks like the cop overreacted.
Why is he talking like a stereotype?
You don't have to be poor to empathize with their poor.
They were saying on that twitter thing that the video of the robbery wasn't michael, but I dunno, the clothes look pretty damn close. Unless khaki is a gang color out there.
The family's lawyer said last night that it was him in the video
In a few years the same thugs out burning and looting will complaining about the lack of investment in their community, living in a food desert, and other such crap. I wonder why?
In a few years, those thugs will mostly be in jail or dead. Their parents will be complaining about those things.
In a few years the people looting and rioting today, will be looting and rioting some place else.
The people looting don't give a fuck about the cops or mb, they are using it as cover to get free shit. It's that simple.
Yesterday folks were talking about him going for the cop's gun.
Stupid criminal piece of shit + stupid piece of shit cop = this. What fun.
Also supposedly the cop didn't know anything about the robbery, he just said something to them for walking down the middle of the street. After he pulled away they stayed in the street, he backed up and when he went to open the car door it bumped them. From there the story gets weird. The claim is he grabbed the 6'4" 280 "kid" by the neck and started pulling him in to the car.....yeah.
From what has been reported, it doesn't look justified. It's a shitty part of the job, but the right to use deadly force can switch from moment to moment. The cop would have been justified shooting Brown during the struggle through the car window, but once Brown was running away, he no longer was. If Brown turned and ran back towards the cop, the he again would be justified using deadly force given events. It's likely that the cop was driven by adrenaline, and angered by the altercation and any injuries he may have received.
Speculation and subject to the facts of the investigation, but the reality is also that is doesn't matter to the Ferguson community or to the black community at large what really happened at this point.
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He may have been 18 but at that size he is a grown ass man, I don't care if you are white and 7 years old if you stand 6'4 and 280 pounds you are a grown ass man, a child in a grown ass mans body.
would white people protest and riot if it was a white guy shot by the same cop?
Probably not! White people aren't as discriminating against by cops in the US as black people are. So we're not as sensitive to it.
Of the two statements I made:
1. When cops unjustly kill someone white people are less likely to riot.
2. White people aren't discriminated against by cops as black people.
Do you disagree with either of them?
You really need to make the gains worth while. I mean some sort of guarantees that will help themselves and society. The slight chance that you will grow and succeed if you work hard really isn't enticing to these folk.
so working hard isnt enticing to these folks, and handouts simply perpetuate the cycle of dependence.
do poor people have any solutions on how we can help them?
If he molested a child, or murdered, I don't know...12 people at a movie theater, ya you aren't going to see a huge uprising in people defending him. But for pushing Habib Patel at the local quickie mart, and walking out with some fat kid food, and not being in the crosswalk...I would even be upset if I lived in the neighborhood.
If the cop had known about the robbery it would be a tad different, it wouldn't have justified what sounds like an execution style slaying but it would have at least given this cop a reason to have confronted this kid other than walking down the street in a residential neighborhood just like kids do all over the country.
Apparently the Ferguson police are now being told to stand down by the state. I think that translates into "let it burn".
I don't see the "he wasn't armed" automatically doesn't make it unjustified.
Of course I live where a guy shot another guy in the back who was unarmed and fleeing, not only were charges not filed but the cops gave him a $10k reward. Some people just need shooting.
I'm guessing a lot of the looters, rioters, and arsonist aren't armed but I would be OK with shooting them as well, apparently shooting the first thug wasn't enough of an example.
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I thought we had a judicial system to judge justified or unjustified, now it's automatically decided based on 2 eye witness reports I guess.
It won't get interesting until one or more of the business owners who are well armed start laying waste to the looters and arsonist, then it get interesting. As is now it's just one dead thug.
No he wasn't. He was shot for attacking someone.
Now with this guy, if he really was shot down in the street while trying to flee, then absolutely; that is wrongful and he should be prosecuted, probably for manslaughter or 2nd degree murder. If he was shot in a fight with an officer over the officers gun, then he was shot for that reason; nothing to do with a robbery. The robbery just tarnishes his character and explains what kind of person he was, which makes it more reasonable that he also assaulted an officer.
As the facts come out from ballistics/cams/what have you, we'll know which side to come down on. Right now, we can't really know.
No matter what the facts, rioting is stupid and wrong. Looting is even worse.
Also no matter what the facts, having the police overreact and clamp down on media etc is equally stupid. Lots of stupid people in Ferguson MO which shouldn't be too surprising to anybody.
The worst part about this whole thing? Someone may just read the name "Michael Brown" and not know he is black. Why did his parents not give him a completely retarded name like Trayvon?
If you're going to refer to an event that happened 3 years ago, and one that the majority of readers on this board won't be familiar with - then you better make sure you get your facts right or I'm going to correct you
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Are we allowed to post pictures of dead bodies? I figured that should be spoilered at least.
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Calling it now. Cops defense will be that he thought he had his tazer in hand, but was confused due to the beating he just took.
And that fucking beating better be well documented. I see they released the cops name, did they release pics of his beatdown yet?
His shorts fell down. How can you steal or go for a gun when your hands are keeping your clothing attached to your body?
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Well, truth be told, that just makes it worse. If he was holding up his shorts when he turned back around, the cop probably thought he was reaching for a gun.
The fact this guy had just robbed a store ten minutes earlier ties into this shooting, because even if the cop wasnt looking for him. Brown didnt know that. He just robbed a store and now he sees a cop up his butt. Dude thought he was about to be arrested and the cop probably saw his body language and it made his spidey senses tingle. Things went downhill from there. If dude hadnt robbed that store he would be alive
They need to investigate the cop because there is a court system to deal with this you don't just Judge Dredd people (thanks for this verb by the way), he may have murdered him or he may have thought he was in danger for some reason, we will find out.
That doesn't excuse this kid putting himself in a dangerous situation in the first place, he must share a big part of the responsibility for his own death.
Bonus point to the cop who was a good judge of character apparently. He spotted someone guilty of robbing a store using physical force without being told about it.
Im glad they killed him. One less
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State ordered curfew from midnight to 5am. Of course no cops to enforece it now. The race is on to see how much you can loot and burn down before midnight, GO.
I'm quickly running out of sympathy for this town.
I'm all for making the temporary firing of the Ferguson PD permanent...but the people are apparently still rioting, burning, and looting. This is why every goddamn police force in America looks like the 82nd Airborne. Do you really want to send Officer Carl Winslow and his 6 shooter into this town right now? I'd be asking for an MRAP too. Or I'd quit.
do you think the owners of those looted and trashed businesses will stick around and rebuild or will they collect the insurance money if there is any and GTFO? would the insurance company even allow them to rebuild their businesses there without jacking their premiums astronomically?
i imagine the other business that were not looted will also be seeing spikes in their insurance rates very soon. thus leading to the flight of businesses in that community, this is why we cant have nice things.
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do you guys think that the residents of ferguson would protest and riot if the cop was black?
Gilbert Arenas weighs in
NBA Star Gilbert Arenas Calls Al Sharpton a 'Coon' | Mediaite
NBA Star Calls Al Sharpton a ‘Coon’ for Stepping into Ferguson
by Josh Feldman | 12:24 pm, August 14th, 2014
NBA player Gilbert Arenas really went off on Al Sharpton yesterday. Arenas was really incensed at Sharpton’s presence in Ferguson, Mo., and even went so far as to call the civil rights leader a “coon” and asking people to stop inviting him into their communities for help.
Arenas posted a rather lengthy rant on Instagram that’s since been deleted, but UPROXX captured the full text before it was taken down, and man, it’s a doozy.
Arenas sent his best wishes to Michael Brown‘s grieving family but immediately went on to blast African-Americans for resorting to looting and rioting. He said, “only reason they issue riot police isssss just in case you actually got smart enough to walk 6 blocks ,YALL ain’t f-cking up white rich sh-t smdh.”
And then he went after Sharpton:
“FAMILiES of the victims pleaseeeeee stop asking #alsharpton to speak or ur behalf,you have a better chance having #caesar the monkey from #planetoftheapes to get justice for you..the stats also show AL coon sharpton has not helped one situation he has protested at,he actually made it worst and because of him the jury goes the other way..(think about it) Jena six,trayvon and the list goes back way back..#AL ur like a #THOT in the club,lookn for attention what u said at trayvons rally #enoughisenough ur right were tired of u PRETENDING”
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