This guy almost gets it.
Cowboys suck. Jay Cutler rules.
This guy almost gets it.
Regular season is a month away. Think you're a wee bit early brah.
Yes. Preseason does start in 2 minutes. Regular season starts in a month.
Go ahead and start a preseason thread then. You have my permission.
You better lay out the terms of that one very specifically in advance.
Bet runs through regular season. Whoever has the best quarterback rating at the end of the season wins. Losers wear a Cutler avatar till next season starts.
How about who ends up with the better TD/Int ratio at the end of the season between Romo and Cutler?
Today has more football than yesterday, a vast improvement of every day since February.
That said...lol, preseason. Sick Manning fumble to start the year.
Bro, you gonna be more butthurt than Merlin on election night.
QB rating it is, not the ESPN QBR
Cutler gonna do 4500/40/8 this year.
Id give him more like 4500/35/12 probably 101-105 QB rating.
Jay Cutler Stats - Chicago Bears - ESPN
Tony Romo Stats - Dallas Cowboys - ESPN
I'll make you a deal since the bet has already been made and accepted, you get some random stranger to punch you in the nuts and film it and post on in this thread. Then you go ahead and use a Romo avatar for half the season and we will call it square.
The regular season. Where the Cowboys and Bears seasons end.
Edit: And as much as I hate to admit it, Cutler is likely to have one of his best statistical seasons. Whether that can still top the 52-50 scores every Cowboys game will devolve to due to their defense is another matter.
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Wasn't Austin hurt all the time anyway?
Must be rough to be a Bears or Cowboys fan and know this goofy bastard has been more successful than either of your QB's ever will.
Why the fuck is the Giants first string still playing in the 2nd quarter?
My quarterback is far more debonaire.
Lol at these last few plays.
Is that from the NFC championship game that Cutler got his team to?
The NFC Championship game that Romo has never been to and never will unless he buys a ticket on Stubhub?
The Cowboys 2014 season sounds very promising
So far, Cowboys' training-camp plan for Tony Romo is 100-percent confusing | Dallas Morning News
Dallas Cowboys QB Tony Romo continues to be cautious, not practicing again Saturday | Dallas Morning News
Tony Romo of Dallas Cowboys unsure he'll play in preseason opener - ESPN Dallas
Machota: I don't believe Tony Romo is 100 percent like he says he is | Dallas Morning News
A Losing Season for Dallas a Foregone Conclusion? | Dallas Cowboys Nation
Did anyone watch that Eli manning interview about 10 min ago? Good lord, what is wrong with that guy. He went to Newman which is a pretty good high school, how the hell did he graduate, and end up like that.
You would think after awhile he might want to take some public speaking classes, or something to make him sound less like he has Down Syndrome..
So Araysar started this thread 6 hours ago and has 24 posts about Jay Cutler already. What a surprise.
Yessssss...... cutler all day every day.
I believe Moontayle is also part of the bet.
Moontayle, I will give you the option between sexy Cutler and stoic Cutler.
Dalton is a damn fine QB I'm glad the Bengals locked him up
Joe Flacco's contract just did more damage to the Bengals than he ever could. Well played Ravens.
Dalton gets a lot more shit than he deserves. Yeah he's been inconsistent and bad in the playoffs, but he's still very young and has room to grow. They've only had 1 QB that was as good as Dalton in the last 30+ years, and that was Carson Palmer for a couple seasons. Same deal with Stafford and the Lions. Makes a lot of sense to lock him up, and in a couple years as the salary cap goes up, the deal will probably start looking even better.
A Bengal Under Pressure - spoiler alert, he's terrible against pressure.
*Except when evaluating Eli Manning.
Any fan who thinks the deal is bad for the Bengals is a complete moron. Here is a pretty good post on the Bengals subreddit about the deal:
Also the Bengals writer also tweeted saying the contract details are very cap friendly and will leave room for us to sign AJ Green and Burfict to long term contractsIf you think $19 million is too much for Dalton, then you probably need to both watch more Dalton and look at the state of current starting QB contracts. You have to understand how contracts really work, especially when they are for 6 years.
Here is a list of all QB contracts: Over the Cap- Top NFL Contracts: Quarterback
Dalton's contract puts him at the same APY as Kaepernick, $19 million per year. So he's got the 6th or 7th biggest QB contract in the league. If you look down the list, you'll see that most of the contracts expire within the next 2 years. Most of those contracts, if extended, will likely be higher in APY than Dalton's. In 2 years, Dalton will likely be the 13th or 14th highest paid QB as the market equalizes. There's a never-ending growth for NFL contracts, so Dalton's will look less and less like a top 10 contract and more and more like a top 20 contract over the next 2 years.
Now, Dalton has certainly played pretty well, overall. The only thing he really needs to fix are his interceptions, and that exactly the kind of help that Hue brings to the table. He knows how to play smart football, and how to get the most out of his players. It's very likely that Dalton is going to have a career year this season, and if we hadn't signed him to this contract, he would have come back looking for an extra $1-$3 million APY. If we make a deep run into the playoffs, he could potentially demand even more than that. Signing him to this contract is a smart financial move for the team as well as Dalton. It also allows the front office to stop worrying about retaining a franchise QB and focus solely on getting Burfict and Green inked to long-term deals. This just un-muddies the water for them.
I'd glad to have the deal done, and I'm happy with how Dalton handled the questions about the deal in the weeks leading up to today. He's shown a LOT of growth as a leader and a QB since the Charger's playoff game. Beware, boys. We could make a huge splash this year.
Yeah, that ~$20 mil a year is the new average for a top third quarterback. The problem being there's virtually no sign Dalton is a top third quarterback (other than the team stat of overall wins), unless Brees/P Manning/Brady all get real old real fast, and no newbies step up.
That's just the going rate for any top 15 QB. 2014 NFL Top Average Salaries - Quarterback . Roethlisberger, Eli, Brady, and Rivers are towards the bottom end of top 15, and in the next year or two when it's time for a new contract, I'm sure they'll all get $18-$20 mil/season. Then add in the young players who will be there next year in Wilson, Luck, Newton, RG3 (probably), and the contract will be somewhere in the top 20-ish.
Of course a lot of it is going to depend on the structure of the contract.
Dalton's stats speak for themselves. People love to bring up these niche stats and obsessive analytics to show why Dalton is terrible but the numbers speak for themselves. Does he shit the bed in the playoffs? Yep. But he still gets us there. If he can just take that one extra step (and also protect the ball a bit more) he'll be a definitive franchise QB.
And Brown was also saying for months leading up to this signing how much he liked Kap's deal and was modelling Andy's contract after it
I would if I knew more about how the offense will look, if Hue will make a good playcaller and what our backfield will look like. Cutler and Dalton both have around the same career QB rating from just glancing at the two's career season long ratings.
I like to bust Kaeperbro's balls but he has had far more playoff success and success in general than Dalton has. Comparing the two is kind of dumb. If he got more guaranteed money than Kaeperbro then grats to his agent because he fucked the Bengals a bit.
David Wilson put on IR and advised to never play football again.
I was not very impressed by either team last night. I think its going to be another year of mediocrity for the Giants.
The preseason doesn't mean shit. Didn't the Lions go 4-0 in the preseason leading up to their 0-16 regular season? Most of it is pretty vanilla play calling on both sides.
All of these QBs make basically the same amount of money per year now, who do you want leading your team?
Matt Ryan(20 mil)
Joe Flacco(20 mil)
Colin Kaepernick(19 mil)
Andy Dalton(19 mil)
Jay Cutler(18 mil)
Tony Romo(18 mil)
Matt Stafford(17 mil)
And I'll even throw in Alex Smith (because he's probably getting a similar contract after this year)
Who do you want heading your team for the next half decade or so?
Its just seems crazy that 20mil a year is the going rate for "meh" 2nd tier QBs. If these guys are making that much, Rodgers, Manning, Brees, Brady should all make about 30mil a year. They are severely underpaid.
Romo hands down. He gets bonus points for a mostly consistent and successful career under a GM that can never get fired no matter how much stupid shit goes on. "I was this close to drafting Johnny Manziel" when the Dallas defense was a dumpster fire for the ages last year is simply not a challenge some of those other guys face. I'd love to be a QB for an Ozzie Newsome team, Trent Baalke, etc.
I don't have a problem with meh QBs getting a big contract. It should be laden with incentives and a small amount of guaranteed money. You want to make the same money as Bree's, Manning, and Brady? Then you better fucking play like them this year. Otherwise you get paid a lot less.
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