Parmesan cheese is for people who like the taste of a bowl of shit that has been mixed to a paste with a cock.
How many times do we have to reiterate that your opinion on food is meaningless because of your super taster abnormality?
Bros, my wife and I are both bad with money, and we're busy and such. So we eat out a lot lately and we never really take stock. Hey, the bills are paid and everything, right?
Well I have major major expenses coming up and I wanted to get our finances under control. And, you know, we're grown ups, we should do that anyway. So I looked into the past 90 days to see how much we have spent. So we can plan and see what we need to adjust. Exported that shit from the bank, put it in google docs, and began organizing.
Motherfucking 934 dollars in eating out in the month of June. That includes all fast food, restaurants, whatever. I almost shit, I had to check that a couple of times. This is literally why we can't have nice things.
Yeah, I find it impossible to budget for food because we do things so strangely. Last month I took possession of a half cow, a pig, and a bunch of chickens, so budget blown like holy shit. But, now I don't have to buy meat for nearly a year, so the rest of the months that's less. This month, we were on vacation, so we ate out quite a bit. Take seven people out, and watch the bills get enormous. So, budget blown. However, my garden is producing so much, and we have so much stuff in the freezer, we're going to spend virtually nothing on food for the next couple of months. My family tends to not want to eat out for a while after we've done so a bunch on vacation.
But yeah, that's bananas for two people. Time to eat noodles and salt for a month, man.
I feel like kids meals are a rip off.
About to have 2nd kid in September, and when they are both old enough I'll order them an adult meal for a couple bucks more and they can split it or something.
Between the wife and I we usually have around $700 a month in groceries (food and every thing). But we barely ever eat out or get delivery, it is pretty much 5-6 cooked meals a week and left overs. More interestingly I wanted to check my liquor spend for July and that was $200. Felt like it was more
I spend $700 in one trip to BJs...
I spend around $50 per week on groceries. I probably dine out 2-4 times per week. That probably adds another $45-$70 depending on the places. Y'all motherfuckers are crazy.
Trader Joe's is cheap.
I spend almost 500 bucks a month on food and I live alone. My girlfriend stays here at least every weekend, though she sometimes buy food on those weekends. I can easily see spending 1000+ a month with 3 kids.
Granted, I've done 50 bucks a week before as well, when the budget was tight.
Yeah, I mean, we could do 50 bucks per month, and we could make it work. We're spoiled as fuck, though. Choice cuts of meat, fresh produce, organic milk, etc. Even eating out, we're not eating at 5 star restaurants or anything but we definitely eat well when we go out, it isn't Taco Bell 5 nights a week.
What really shocked me was the quantity. I feel like we cook a lot, and when I parsed it out I found that in the month of May we ate out 43 times. There are only 31 days in the fucking month.
We had 'Irish' food yesterday, which involved Guinness, of course, and I had this wacky thing called a Dubliner Waffle. It was a Potato Waffle, covered in corned beef and cabbage, and drizzled with a light dijon sauce. The waffle was incredible, unbelievably fluffy considering it's potato-iness. I could only eat about a third of the waffle, it was huge.
We also had an app called Voodoo Pork Wings, which were also incredible. BBQ'd pork shanks, frenched down like lamb chops. I'll be going back. $50 tab for the two of us.
Yeah, I rarely eat out. Eating out(especially at night) usually includes drinking and that basically doubles or triples the f'ing tab if I'm there. There are people at work who go out every single day for lunch at 15+ bucks a pop, then bitch about being broke. That's 300+ bucks a month just for your lunch.
2000/90 = ~$22 per meal. I don't see how that is really possible.
Here's the problem with kids, that I didn't realize until I had one. I kinda thought that yeah, formula and baby food will be expensive but once the kid can eat regular food, things shouldn't be so bad. I mean, how much more food do I need to cook for dinner to feed another being that only weighs 25 lbs? Not much.
Well, I didn't take into account that the kid apparently needs to eat like 8 times a day. You can't give a 1 year old a hamburger at noon and then that's it until dinner at 7pm. little bastard needs snacks and milk in-between. And those snacks tend to be expensive crap like fresh fruit and veggies, kid-portioned yogurts, etc. My wife and I used to buy half-gallons of milk because we couldn't drink a gallon before it expired in 10-14 days. Now we go through a gallon of milk in our home like every 3-4 days, and yeah, my wife insists on the expensive local-dairy organic stuff too.
We used to have a couple nights a week where the wife and I were just tired from work and didn't want to cook, so we'd eat PB&J sandwiches, or frozen pizza, or some crap like that which was easy and cheap. No more. Need to cook something healthy every night, and it can't just be meat & potatoes, need a vegetable(or two) as well.
Who would have thought that one more little mouth to feed would increase or grocery bill by probably 40-50%.
Has there ever been any concrete research on buying the super organic Horizon brand milk is better for children than normal milk?
Grocery bills, $40.00 lunches and half-cows! We need a new title for this thread, as Fast Food doesn't really encompass it at this point.
Speaking of fast food, time to go get a delicious Donair for lunch!
I realize that this is the fast food thread, but people are so fucking ignorant about this stuff.
Growth hormones in milk: myth/fact Aetiology
1) milk has hormones in it, whether it is organic or not.
2) cows that have been given hormones have a very slightly increased level of the hormones that are already in milk
3) ingesting hormones does not make your boobs grow like if you were injecting them into your blood and even if you were injecting them into your blood, the amounts in milk are too FAR low to have an effect
4) the amounts are a tiny fraction of the hormones produced by your own body or those present in many other foods including things like broccoli
5) even if they did have an effect (they don't), they are killed by pasteurization
Stop wasting your money on organic milk. The worries about it are totally manufactured by hippy fear mongers and Monsanto haters. More study isn't needed unless someone comes up with a plausible mechanism by which it would even be possible for a negligible increase in a hormone that is already present in your body and much of the food you eat to have some meaningful effect on your health.
Yeah but what about the GMOs mannnn
I had to block my one cousin from facebook since literally 5 times a week she'd post some quack article about how GMOs and non-organic food was causing everything from autism to cancer to baldness. I just couldn't deal with it. Her kid is allergic to basically everything on the planet and somehow GMOs are to blame. I haven't fully realized the connection. Especially since she got pregnant with the kid after she completely switched over to her anti-GMO campaign. I'm also not sure how just because Europe has banned or made labeling requirements for GMOs that means it is the end-all be-all discussion that it is right. Because Europe is right about everything.
My grocery stores "organic" section keeps growing every month. Someone out there is laughing all the way to the bank.
Organic is such a scam. I love breaking the news to vegan assholes that the majority of that fucking organic bullshit they eat is fertilized with turkey shit. My uncle has become a millionaire growing organic corn and soybeans because white people are fucking stupid. The thing that effects taste in what you buy is the breed and how it is stored. Not any of that other dumb shit. A little off topic from organic milk but meh felt like ranting.
Originally Posted by Noodleface
Your uncle should buy rerolled a mansion with his millions he's made off silly white folk.
bring the ol' fires of heaven house to real life!
About 6 or 7 years ago our ranch was really struggling financially and since I was living in the SF Bay Area at the time surrounded by wacky food bullshit I did a lot of earnest research to see if doing some kind of organic/premium/natural/local type stuff might be a way for the place to make more money. By the time I got done researching I could only conclude that I would be a total charlatan if I tried to get into that business because they are just selling marketing. Yes the farming practice is different (although not as different as a lot of people think) but there is really nothing that you can make a reasonable person think that there is any good reason to buy that shit. Being a rational person myself, I could not in good conscience sell something that I knew was a scam.
I am not saying that organic farmers are cynical scammers. I think that most of them believe that what they are doing is good. That belief is not based on good science though and they couldn't support it with evidence if they tried.
I don't think people put a lot of research or thought into it, really. People (wrongly) think organic means that no pesticides are used, and eating pesticides are bad (another assumption, a couple actually) and so there you go. It is especially easy to convince parents of this shit, no parent wants to funnel some chemical into their kids and have it come out 10 years later that they may have harmed them somehow.
That's a fairly easy assumption to make just because a lot of "premium" fruit and vegetables are also organic. If you bought some super fancy hand picked tomatoes and they said organic on them then you might think that organic was the reason that they were so good. In fact they were just really fucking good tomatoes which also happened to be organic but what they were or weren't sprayed with really had nothing to do with the flavor. There is also the placebo effect thing where if you believe that what you are eating is "special" you will probably like it better.
I like cheese.
My daughter will not eat cheese. She seems to dislke pretty much any dairy. But she has never complained of discomfort that would indicate lactose intolerance. This happened all of the sudden, she used to put down mac and cheese and whatever else cheese, always wanted cheese on everything. Now she won't even eat a cheeseburger.
My overall favorite cheese is easily Jarlsberg. Give me a 1/2 pound of Jarlsberg and a fresh loaf of bread and I'll be in heaven.
*Edit* The price of Jarlsberg can go fuck itself, though. 10 dollars for a tiny little block of cheese, so I can only indulge now and then.
I get really good cheese for really a really good price at Sam's Club. They have Jarlsberg for around 6$ a pound often. Also always have great prices on Gouda, smoked Gouda, varieties of Edam, and other things off and on. They usually have a very nice wensleydale, sometimes with an infused fruit, sometimes with beer infused, but always good.
You guys are fuckin' amateurs with your under 1k a month for a family of five spending habits.
The pork comes out at around 3$ a pound, and the chickens are right about 8$ per chicken, and they average 7 pounds.
We're not totally out of whack then. I think we charged $2.85 a pound last year and the halves were between $800 and $1000 depending on size. We will almost certainly raise the price this year because I can sell a cow on the hoof for $1400 which is double what I got for them even a couple years ago.
That was for the hanging weight. They actually only get like 2/3 to 1/2 that much meat after it's processed. It is still a good deal though. Around here most people that buy beef like the grass fed hormone free stuff but they are really looking for a deal. I wish I lived close enough to a big city to sell to people who are willing to pay out the ass for that. I think processing is around $250 for a whole beef, so I'm still making ~$300/head by selling direct to the consumer but it's a pretty big pain in the ass to find customers and then get it processed and then deliver it vs. just dropping them off at the sales yard.
$300 per head is not a lot, my friend, I wish you were making more. People just don't value quality meat enough - the difference when you have good, well processed meat that is well prepared vs. the generic stuff available anywhere is huge.
Do you sell your tongue, liver, and hearts? Or is there just no interest in those parts of the cow? I always take it all. The tongue makes outstanding sandwich meat.
It's up to the customer if they want that stuff. They talk directly to the butcher shop and get things cut the way that they want. People do some dumb ass shit though. Last year one lady wanted all her steaks ground up because she said they eat hamburger more than steak. I think the butcher talked her out of that at least. Another customer told me that she had been using the rib eyes for stir fry because she didn't know what they were. I try not to think too much about it.
I like tongue also as long as the skin is off of it. I can't take looking at those bumps while I'm eating. I also like heart which not too many people seem to eat. Even liver is enjoyable once in a while. The only thing I have never tried is brains. They just look too disgusting but my grandfather used to love them.
I have recipes for the brains, and I like it, but my family would throw stones at me if I served it up for dinner. I've convinced them to eat tongue, heart, and liver periodically, so I figure I'm doing pretty well.
Yeah, I've heard of people having their entire quarter or whatever made into ground beef. That makes Jesus sad.
I tried lengua for the first time somewhat recently and I loved it. Still a little weird to think about. I don't know why, but it is.
Growing up, my family would always buy a half cow and half pig. That would last us forever and the meat was delicious. Some amazing pot roasts, ground beef, steaks, sausage. Really good stuff.
do you guys do coupons? i found out years ago i rarely have any use for coupons. (i'm sure i'll be using coupons soon when we get our spawn, with diapers/formula, etc)
i have most of my toiletries shipped from amazon and any other monthly items, with subscribe and save if you do 7+ items you save 15% more.
farmers market depot is usually where i get most of my veggies/fruits
then out of the 5 supermarkets within a 3mile radius (i don't want to travel far for groceries, that just wastes time and gas) i goto the one with the meat/chicken sales of the week, usually you just know by now which ones will have the sale, i don't visit each one, i just look at the stupid flyers of the weekly ads that the postman delivers and plan out my shopping for the week.
just my wife and myself fresh groceries fruits/veggies meat for a week, is about $100
A few favorites are Manchego, sharp cheddar, really fucking sharp cheddar, Stella Fontinella, and blue cheeses. I'm not a cheese snob though, I'll eat velveeta and american cheese (although both are high in sodium and I'm not supposed to eat them). Actually most cheeses are fairly high in sodium, but fuck it, I gotta have me some cheese.
I've been on a real Manchego + Serrano kick lately.
That will make you the best Ham + Cheese you've ever had in your LIFE
Chechil, it's fucking delicious. It makes a great walking food, cause you can just kind of unravel and eat it gradually as you walk, almost like a fruit-by-the-foot made out of cheese. It goes great with beer, too, because it's so salty.
I think I dun got trolled.
Some asshole left glazed chocolate-looking donuts in the work breakroom. I cut into it to take a portion just to mess with a coworker and the knife just isn't going through. It's really springy and resilient. I cut it eventually and bite into it. This isn't chocolate, it's fucking whole wheat that looked close to chocolate because the glazed darkened it. Even worse, I don't think it's just whole wheat donut, I think it's a bread recipe due to how chewy it is. Some things just shouldn't be done.
nm, wrong thread.
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Having another thread is stupid. This should have been either "The Fast Food" thread turned into just the "Food" thread or combined with the "Cooking" thread as the "Cooking and Food Thread" etc. Spreading it into 3 threads is retarded.
Yeah, I'm not sure why the integrity of the Fast Food Thread has to be upheld. It's going to go on tangents no matter what. Might as well be an all encompassing Food Thread.
This is fucking stupid. What thread do I post in if I grow an organic tomato and put a slice of it on a whataburger that I had to microwave?
Originally Posted by Noodleface
Yes, to the question.
Just another example of the pretentious foodies from the elitist cooking thread feeling like they have to have a classier place to discuss food.
Hey, I originally said to combine it with the Fast Food thread!
I really think we should split this thread into the "Butcher Thread," where Lurkingdirk and BrutulTM can discuss carving up and utilizing every part of various animals, and the "Cheese and Other Dairy Delights Thread," where serious discussion on cheeses can take place without interruption and derailing. If other dairy topics prove popular enough, we could maybe break those off into separate threads as well.
Oh yeah, I like cottage cheese, too.
Has this thread had any pro or con sous-vide douchebaggery yet? If not, I'm up for getting it started
Hey, someone suggested making a general food thread, so I followed their suggestion. I even asked in the amod thread if I should, and was given the green light.
Doesn't seem like a bad idea to me, but whatever. You have the power to combine the threads. Think of how happy chaos would be if you moved all the posts back.
I'm not moving anything, but only suggesting the move was stupid to begin with.
I had one of these on Sunday:
I don't know why, but I always enjoy some MceDees. Not as good as Whataburger though.
What about Rickshaw this one and let life return to normal.
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