Looks like Daryl loses an eye
Show is terrible, never watching again, rabble rabble....
Jesus Christ, of all the ways I thought it would turn out in Terminus this wasn't even on the list and that isn't a good thing.
So they don't know who they are fucking with... but let's forget you eat people and some of my dudes, have a BBQ and let's be friends, cept if you mess with me for the 20th time I will kill you!
I kind of wish I could unwatch that trailer. Even as silly as TWD is, that was way too spoilery.
One great thing about torrents and binge-watching shows by season - they strip out recaps and previews. Which means you don't get the "HEY REMEMBER WHEN THIS HAPPENED? THIS TIDBIT WILL BE IMPORTANT IN THIS EPISODE, WATCH FOR IT!" (worse than a goddamn fight scene where the camera keeps focusing on some object that will totally impale the bad guy soon) and "HEY COOL CLIFFHANGER RIGHT? WELL IT TOTALLY GETS THROWN OUT WITHIN FOURTEEN SECONDS NEXT WEEK LIKE A DUKES OF HAZZARD COMMERCIAL BREAK"
Seriously, every show becomes better just by skipping recaps and previews.
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Just a little over a week to go, I'm looking forward to it . . .
which probably puts me in the minority around here.
I'll watch it, but I'm not pumped with excitement about doing so. So I guess put me in the minority as well. Or maybe somewhere off to the side of them at least.
We've got 2 threads now?
I thought there was an old one, and it's here.
The first 4 minutes of the episode set a pretty good tone.
I don't know, I am still looking forward to season 5.
Season 4 brought us "too far gone" which imo is the best one of the 4 seasons.
pretty grisly start, show was picked upfor season 6 this weekend.
Pffft. It was picked up 5 days ago.
pfft, i heard about it the other day!
pretty damned solid episode, no complaints really, some silly things i spotted, but nothing noteworthy. i am convinced Rick was based off of Randy Marsh
Morgan's back bitch.
Morgan looked like Eli/Denzel Washington in that scene.
Plenty of gruesome death and destruction, very little touchy-feely emotional crap. Good episode. Exactly what I want from my zombie-based entertainment.
Pretty good episode. Liked the Judith being reunited. IN the end, thats what you do it for.
The "lol wtf?" part of the episode about was the 25 cent bottle rocket acting like a US Marine guided mortar to detonate that propane gas.
Solid episode in any case. Carol and Rick were in full on "Fuck me? No, FUCK YOU!!!" mode.
Good episode with just minor wtf's, like the accuracy of bottle rockets, but overall good.
also I think Cutty ate those two little girls from last season.
Fucking sick start thats for sure. Pretty damn good episode. Lots of action, lots of zombies. Loved it. And Morgan being back....fuck yea.
I love how they trolled people with the trailer, suggesting everyone becomes buddy buddy at terminus and then give us that episode instead.
Carol is a baaaaad bitch. The reunion scene was great, good to see everything is ok again.
actually the bottle rocket was plausible for me, when i was a kid , my friends and i used to have fireworks wars around fourth of july and i had made myself a rocket launcher out of a metal pipe and a grip for a bicycle. it was pretty badass. anyway, with a little practice you could shoot those things and they would go pretty much wherever you wanted. i thought you guys would have commented on the zombie camouflage carol made which sort of negated the whole need for anyone to be afraid of zombie attacks, or that right after rick and guys escaped, carol shows up and is completely cleaned up. it was minor stuff, but i chuckled a little.
Well all she had to do was take off that tunic and wash her face, which it showed mostly clean but she missed a spot behind the ears.
Yes growing up we used to shoot bottle rockets at each other driving down the road , car to car warfare. Fairly accurate for the 2/4/6 oz rockets.
The real troll was not the misdirection although it got me, it was the fact about everyone was expecting 16 episodes of Terminus and it got fucked up in under a hour.
Hopefully we can spend the next 8 in the church , cause Walking Dead.
wow, really strong episode. honestly I was shocked how brutal the trough scene was, I don't know that I have seen something like that on regular TV before. Rough.
irl the bottle rocket would not of even left the barrel...actually the bottle rocket was plausible for me, when i was a kid , my friends and i used to have fireworks wars around fourth of july and i had made myself a rocket launcher out of a metal pipe and a grip for a bicycle. it was pretty badass. anyway, with a little practice you could shoot those things and they would go pretty much wherever you wanted. i thought you guys would have commented on the zombie camouflage carol made which sort of negated the whole need for anyone to be afraid of zombie attacks, or that right after rick and guys escaped, carol shows up and is completely cleaned up. it was minor stuff, but i chuckled a little.
2 things that bugged me, but other than these, solid episode for season start
1) they spent ALL last season getting to Terminus, i expected at least half a season there getting to know the people at Terminus so i could hate them and be happy when they got eaten. Last night i had no attachment to the people who died so it seems random.
2) at the end they decide to leave terminus behind and move on... if that's the case why were they walking To terminus? All the signs on the railroad last season on the way to Terminus were aimed AT terminus so you knew which way to go, so Rick marks up the sign saying 'No Sanctuary' but the sign is facing the way they are all walking which is towards terminus.
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Pretty sure that given the fact that terminus is full of psychos, and there was so much more footage of those people in the trailer, and that the episode ended on a THEN note that we aren't even close to done with it.
Looks like they are doing post-credits scenes now too. Was that the crazy black dude that Rick buddied up with in Season 1 and again a season or two ago?
I mean we really did this back in the day.
Ya we'll see the crew but Terminus set as a show focal point is done.
As for getting there and leaving, not only the crazy people but due to the explosions and fire, what used to Terminus is now going to have several thousand walkers heading to it. Not a good place to be anymore, so ya get away.
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If you are using other episodes of the WD as a measuring stick, this episode was a god damn masterpiece.
The last shot of the party walking down the rail road tracks together makes you realize just how big the group is getting once again. Those cheap asses at AMC aren't going to want to pay for all of them, so expect some serious killing this season.
Carol was good but we got to see Rick in full Rambo mode. Shooting those people in the back without a fuck given and ready to go back for more, nice.
All those stuffed animals, no kids running around. How many butchers were there, 20, 30 max? These people ate like kings. They should be the fattest crew around.
Will they finally escape the 10 mile radius they've spent the last three years wandering around in?
EDIT: Also, the zombie guts trick wears off after a while. A "while" defined as "when the plot calls for it" or "when it rains" or "when you do something to stand out too much."
PS: Not one person was like "yo where's Beth?" But I guess they are just used to that. I look forward to the flashback scenes of her in the rape-den she's being held in.
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And yeah, seems like a lot of meat. They already had torsos and shit hanging and were about to butcher another 8 bodies, how do that get rid of all that meat before it goes bad?
My girlfriend and I quit on this show at the beginning of last season because it was Sons of Anarchy levels of bad. Has it picked up?
If you think the show is bad, I don't think anything is gonna change your mind. Although I will say this is probably the best season opener so far.
Best episode in the series so far. It was just non stop action, no more retarded drivel drama talk for character building purposes.... We know the characters. It's time to get things going.
I hope the show stays at this pace. If it goes back to farmhouse level of boring, it will get old very fast again.
I don't know, I still say Too far gone was better but both imo are top episodes. Gareth was a let down in this that prevented it from being #1 to me.
Still as far as sci fi series go, TWD is still miles ahead of many others out there.
Looking forward to having 2 series run year around starting this next year cause there is always nights with nothing on and a good time to watch all the weekly DVR shit.
Watched the new Z Nation today when I couldn't find anything on. Deadnados!
Interesting note regarding season 2. I for some reason thought the farm season was 26 episodes long. I was shocked it was only 13. It sure felt longer than the normal 16 the last 2 seasons had.
Zombie killing quota met for the season, predicting nobody kills a zombie next episode.. time to get touchy feely and get some new char back stories.... :/
I'm pretty sure at least 1 zombie dies an episode. Even the crappy, almost no action happens at all episodes features at least one zombie kill.
Btw, if you watched the Talking Dead afterwards, they confirmed that the "greeter lady"/Tasha Yar was Garret's mother and the dude that Rick had hostage and got killed at the end of last season and who was on the butcher's table this season was Garret's brother. Also, the rape dude in the flashbacks was the crazy dude they let out of the cargo thing during their escape.
Dayum, there were 17.3 million viewers for the premiere.
Really strong first episode. But, in typical TWD fashion, the first one or two episodes of a season and the last are always pretty good then the middle is just absolute and complete shit. So I'm still not holding my breath for a consistant season.
Strong season opening episode. I was pleasantly surprised.
lol @ downy Bill Hicks.
While this episode was decent, I'm with Tenks. A good intro won't much matter if the next 8 episodes are the usual crap.
Well, we know they won't get more than 10 miles from Terminus, so fat Bill Hicks will have to die or be outed as a loony fraud before too long.
Last season Rick + friends walk into Terminus and they do the whole "lol hi, welcome!", then Rick sees Glenn's watch and Daryl's poncho (which Maggie had been using), so he takes the dude who was greeting them hostage and demands where they got it. When Garrett sees what is going down, he gives some type of order, to which the hostage/brother goes "Garrett, no!!" and then he gets headshot. Then they do the whole herding them to the train car.
I have to say the most dark episode was the one with the two girls last season. Man that was harsh. The big sister that kills the younger one and then the old lady offs the older one cause shes fucking insane? That was almost a tearjerker for me. Pretty fucking dark if you ask me.
I understand this is a TV show and everything, but you'd have to be a pretty giant group of nerds to resort to cannibalism a year and 1/2 into an apocalypse that wipes out 90% of the rest of humanity. I understand they were just supposed to be evil, but you could have probably created more interesting and less polarizing villains by just having that group murder everyone they lure into their camp, especially considering what we see they have gone through previously. I may even understand that mentality, but eating people that quickly is just silly.
I think it is more than plausible, society goes to shit quick in the wake of a disaster.
It is one thing to say "Fuck other people! Nobody gets in here, shoot them on sight!" but turning the whole setup into a psycho cannibalism gig instead is just ridiculous. Which is why I hope there won't be anymore terminus flashbacks; those people had it rough without a doubt and every right to shoot the fuckers who attacked them.
Doesn't justify the honeypot/human jerky though.
Oh and Im sure terminus will be the focus for the better part of this season in one way or another. We are just scraping the very top of the mountain with S5E1.
Well they made it clear that wasn't what Terminus was about , until the thug cannibal group came in killed and ate most of it's people.
Garrett's group managed to take back control but it changed them the same way the prison changed Rick.
Basically fuck being the good guy anymore, if you are not part of my group then fuck you.
I'm still wondering if the group that took Terminus and fucked it all up was part of the same group Daryl ran into, you know teach em, teach em all the way dudes Rick ate.
It still doesnt make sense to become canibals. All the trouble these guys go through to process the " meat" they could easily hunt the local wildlife or become vegans. Ricks crew managed not to be canabals, so it is definitely a choice these guys made not something rhey had to do to survive.
They also managed to survive because they were in a prison with enough food for 250 inmates
This show doesn't really deserve this level of analysis because being hyper realistic certainly hasn't ever been a goal of theirs. I could see a subset of posters from this forum turning to cannibalism pretty much day 1 but in general it's a stretch just for shock value. Whatever though.
Cannibalism storylines are synonymous with TWD. It has now been in TWD s1 video game, TWD comics and TWD TV show.
I also think people are very much underestimating the decay in humanity that can take place. I'm also sure many people in Terminus just turned a blind eye and "Didn't watch the sausage get made" but were just happy to have fresh meat on the table. But I'll also agree it is a bit far fetched. Deers would be running rampant if something like a zombie outbreak occurred.
Well if we were to examine this, why would there be animals left if the zombies will eat anything alive in site? Its pretty safe to say that the animals would of been picked off by the zombies as well as the people left, right?
Also planting shit will get you some stuff, but imagine the fenced off area you would need to feed 20-30 people for an extended period of time? Never mind an entire compound of people. And raising animals you need to feed them too, right? where is that food coming from? more farms? where?
Cannibalism would definitely be a last resort type of thing, but all it takes is 1 or 2 crazies that are the leaders of a group and youre eating Bill and Nancy.
It would be really hard for a zombie to kill a prey animal IMO. They are designed to hear, see and escape. It would take a level of execution zombies are not capable of achieving to take one down.
This is really the truth of it. Most people, despite what they claim on the internet, would fall in and just be followers in a situation like this. And if the boss man is providing food you won't really care where it is coming from.but all it takes is 1 or 2 crazies that are the leaders of a group and youre eating Bill and Nancy.
You also need to think about the beginning of the zpoc, 90% didn't die immediately. During the first weeks the food shipments would stop, just imagine yourself as a truck driver or food processing plant worker watching zombie news and thinking "should I go to work today or protect my family?". Grocery stores everywhere would have bare shelves in a day or two.
(I cant believe Im defending TWD logic)
If you're in that world, and you're eating people a year and 1/2 into it, you have issues.
Well maybe not 4-5 months out, but after a year? Two? I could see it. There is only so much canned food you can scrounge and most people could not hunt an animal even if they had AK47 fully auto.
There arent enough people for the game to be decimated. Also zombie cant catch a crippled old man. They aint catching a deer.
Not everyone is a Daryl though. It would probably be easier to find people to kill than hunting wildlife for most people. Hell if this was on HBO or something we would probably see rape chambers too.
At this point they got 14+baby running around. They need 40,000 calories a day at least and about 30 gallons of water a day as well. That is a lot of resources when you are on the road running from dead things wanting to eat you which is why they haven't ever made it very far. Without the resources what can you do.
Zombies in WD do eat any animal. Let us not forget that deer don't have the ability to barricade a home and chill out. Eventually the deer will get tired due to having to book it constantly and get eaten.
The cannibal angle was really more of a commentary on the banality of evil. They basically put themselves in one camp (butcher) and everyone else in another (cattle). They stopped seeing other survivors as people and started seeing them as "non-human".
Yeah, this is pretty much how humans hunted for thousands of years.Zombies in WD do eat any animal. Let us not forget that deer don't have the ability to barricade a home and chill out. Eventually the deer will get tired due to having to book it constantly and get eaten.
The animal outruns you but as long as you have more endurance and can keep moving towards it, eventually it will get tired and give up.
A deer isn't going to be able to outrun a horde of zombies over the course of several hours unless it can get far enough away that it can't be tracked.
As painful as this tangent and the following statement will be: I agree with chuk.
Deer can evade zombies just fine in the short term and it's not like they are going extinct. On the flip side, though, deer populations wouldn't explode because there still is a predator that will kill them and they will also avoid zombie infested areas if possible (which is where people will be going to get supplies/etc).
i dunno man, the deer population in jersey has been exploding for the last 20 years. maybe they have lots of cougars or wildcats hunting deer down in georgia, but something tells me that even with an explosion of cougars, the deer population would still be exploding. zombies cant catch a deer. seriously have you ever heard of a deer being killed by a bunch of guys running after it and using their bare hands to take it down? i dont think i ever saw les stroud pulling that one off.
Deer population would only explode as long as the wolf population was still recovering, shit would balance out. And zombies would be no kind of predator for anything but the most sickly deer, don't be stupid. The stamina argument works based on dogged pursuit by intelligent beings that can track them. A deer running for 20 seconds would be basically vanished to whatever zombie initially went after it.
Example of just how quickly the wolves(and other real predators) would balance out the deer population.
edit: And, obviously, posting that video link is the only reason I actually responded=P
Something to keep in mind Grim would be deer wouldn't attack walkers and would run, Wolves on the other hand would probably be drawn to them ( meaning death as a wolf wouldn't know to kill the brain ).
In fact thinking of it, undead would be more destructive to aggressive animals than humans are now. The perfect animal killers. Even sharks would be semi fucked.
As soon as animals realized zombies were an easy source of food they would be wiped out really quickly. Especially TWD zombies, where their skulls are slightly more sturdy than a pudding skin.
Zombies vs. animals? The living dead wouldnt stand a chance - Boing Boing
I have randomly read/watched a few things relevant to this very specific topic=P
Great, thanks. Now you got me envisioning zombies walking around with vultures sitting on their head pecking away.
didn't they address this? something like they were toxic to birds and animals. could have been another undead mythos
If the flesh was toxic, then they are useless to animals. Besides, wolves would probably stay the fuck away from them if that were the case.
There is a vast difference between something like a tornado, or an attack on a very small area like 9/11, which typically only effects a very small community so the community around it pulls together; law and order is left unaffected. Those are in no way comparable to something like a hurricane katrina or, in the case of twd, a zombie apocalypse, which has left society with no law enforcement for 18 months and seemingly no return to law and order, ever. If you don't think the world would be at least just as brutal as it is in twd then you have put too much faith in humanity.
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