Interesting points, and have been brought up elsewhere before.
This has been brought up in several threads already.
LeVar Burton bringing back Reading Rainbow. A noble effort. Or is it? WP saying maybe not so much. This Reading Rainbow would be a for-profit company, and would not be bringing back the TV show, but expanding his current Reading Rainbow apps.
You might want to reconsider that donation to the Reading Rainbow KickstarterIt will not, let’s be clear, replicate the classic show that aired from 1983 to 2009. (Burton bought the rights to that show and its name and used them to spin off another company, RRKidz, which produces a Reading Rainbow tablet app.) The Kickstarter would essentially expand on that app, making it available on the Web and updating it with special tools for teachers — not for free, as the classic show was on PBS, but at a monthly subscription cost.
While I'd like to see Burton's response to this, especially on how the money is planned on being spent, if this is really about getting kids to learn to read, and not just cashing out, I'm all for it. But the subscription part is pretty friggin weak.
Bring Reading Rainbow Back for Every Child, Everywhere. by LeVar Burton Kickstarter
Kunta gotta eat.
if you can't trust the chief engineer of the USS Enterprise, who can you trust? i trust my man geordie with my warp core, my sex android, and my money
why hasn't this kickstart bullshit been banned from the internet yet
They're talking about providing it subsidized to schools.
I haven't seen a whole lot of explanation for the business side of it. But until there is actually some indication of malfeasance (beyond an understandable cynicism), I think it's fair to give Mr. Burton enough rope.
"not the best way to structure this service" is not actually malfeasance. If a donor gave him 10 bucks and expects him to solve world hunger, I'm just afraid that's on the donor. A -lot- of how this eventually looks is going to have more to do with what sorts of political connections his company has and the quality of those connections, not a lot of how this eventually looks is going to have much to do with Mr. Burtons intentions.
I really do think he's just the celebrity face of the thing. And part of it, no doubt. But men in suits are gonna make this happen. Levar might just be doing good to choose the books and write the scripts. And that's important. But.
Like it or not bankers get a say too. They always get a say. No one should expect that this is a charity. Maybe a lot of people do.
But it not being a charity does not preclude it from being a positive construct.
We'll see. If he takes the money and runs maybe we'll have to start calling him The Honorable Reverend Kunta LaForge.
(I don't think that he will do that. Like really really really really don't think that it's even in his mind.)
It seems like he wants to provide it to as many classrooms as possible for free. Charging money is no big deal, there is a similar site called ABC Mouse and they charge. And it is totally worth it for what they charge, and I imagine that Reading Rainbow could be much better than that site. Not really seeing the controversy yet.
some people just wanna put a brotha down
The app right now is free to download and has 1 free book and some videos. 9.99/month is the current cost, or 29.99 for 6 months, which gives unlimited access to hundreds of books and videos. With the KS money, RR wants to expand the platforms it supports to include Android, consoles, and set-top boxes like Roku and AppleTV, as well as create new "field trip" videos, and make it free for 7500 schools across the country.
LeVar Burton Wants ‘Reading Rainbow’ on Game Consoles
I think Levar is definitely doing this for the kids. He's been doing it for 30 years.
If you look at the tech Kickstarters ahead of him at least he didn't claim he would give them the world for $50 and never deliver. The comments on those pebbles and that game console thing especially were awful.
Shit costs money. Web costs money, "field trip" filming costs money, apps cost money, even flushing the commode costs money.
If he had a billion dollars gave to him, probably free for everyone. As it is , shit costs money, both in and out.
2 questions. if there is 30 years of episodes in the can, why are they asking for money to make more of them and why would anyone pay when they could just pop in a tape off the tv full of old episodes for the kids to watch for free?
why would any school pay for this when they are already paying their teachers to teach these kids reading and such? its like admitting that they failed and are just gonna let them watch tv instead of doing their jobs.
If I had answers Astro I wouldn't be building houses.
However since I am a excellent armchair internet general allow me to answer.
The video libraries are only a part of the system it seems. If I understand correctly the App which they use and plan to expand has hundreds or thousands of books in it. They want to expand this in addition to the content already provided. Think of it as Rosetta Stone for people who can't read. After hours learning enhancement.
The fact that 1 of 4 children in schools, or rather CERTAIN schools cannot read is said sign of failure.
I personally lay that on the deadbeat parents more than anything, but if bad/wrong/drugged EBT parenting cannot help the child, the child MUST be given a opportunity to help him or herself no matter how small the chance.
I didn't grow up with RR. I was before it's time as far as childhoods go, but I knew some kids even in my overall well funded town/community who struggled to read and write. I remember going to the library once to use the Apple II to play a game and seeing those same struggling kids ALONE there trying to learn to read. No one was helping them.
That is the only reason I am behind this. I think any and every possible way we can help the children expand is very important. I have seen the current 13-20 generation and I am not very impressed.
i was before this shows time too, so i really dont know how RR helped kids read and how schools are using this to teach kids to read instead of the teachers themselves. its pretty fucking pathetic that our school system is such a shitpile when we need a tv show to do what they can not.
I grew up watching Reading Rainbow, Sesame Street, and Mr Rogers. I am all for anything that helps kids learn to read. My niece has epilepsy that makes her brain fire as a chaotic mess. It makes her struggle to learn things. Thankfully my sister in law is mom of the century and she works with them constantly. Anything that will make that easier for her I am 100% behind. That will help them in life more than anything other than being born rich.
I don't think you understand how our schools work. There are many many school districts that do not allow teachers to go away from their curriculum. So if kids fall behind they and their parents don't help they are fucked.i was before this shows time too, so i really dont know how RR helped kids read and how schools are using this to teach kids to read instead of the teachers themselves. its pretty fucking pathetic that our school system is such a shitpile when we need a tv show to do what they can not.
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I'm not saying all the teachers are bad but the government oversight and system is fucking horrible. It is almost as if the government WANTS our children to fail. The things he has told me is some scary shit.
I've seen kids denied inter-district transfer requests to top notch programs/schools because the district didn't want to lose the funding associated with that student. I've seen districts playing hot-potato with kids with disabilities because no school wants them - they require extra resources and bring down test scores. I've had an interesting fly-on-the-wall view of my local school districts the last year, and the amount of bureaucracy and politicking that goes on between the Union, the Superintendents, and the teachers themselves (because don't confuse them with the Union who sometimes works AGAINST the interests of the teachers - much like Republicans on food stamps and disability keep voting for Republicans) is both depressing and insane. The sad truth is that "what's best for the kids" is usually the LAST thing anyone thinks about. Each kid has a dollar amount attached to them from the State, and that's where their value, and interest in them, begins and ends. Individual teachers buck this trend the best, but there are absolutely horrible teachers out there, too.
the irony is that watching reading rainbow would have helped chuck understand reading rainbow, its a total catch-44 (from the famous movie, catcher in the dirty harry)
5 million dollar stretch goal should be Data and Worf reading for the kids.
3.2M so far. Guess people give all their money to preachers on Sundays as backing took a huge drop today, comparatively.
Backing for the mug, me. I'd get a T-shirt, but I have a feeling bunch of hipster kids who know nothing about it will start wearing them.
im happy i missed the reading rainbow generation. i learned how to read with my mom using flash cards when i was 4. schools dont really care about teaching kids anyway, its just there to keep you out of trouble until mommy and daddy get out of work.
Was never about learning how to read it was making kids WANT to read.
i write children's books.....
that's a half truth!
Post a sample of your work
Jack and Jill went up the hill
to have a little fun
Stupid Jill forgot her pill
And now they have a son
Jack and Jill went up the hill
each with a buck and a quarter
Jill came down with two-fifty
And you had Encyclopedia Brown as a child? If you're 75 they first came out when you were 25.
Narnia would've started in your LATE childhood (early teens) - which is way past RR's demographic which is more 4-8 or so.
And flashcards were first popularized in the US in the 1970's (although they have existed for a VERY long time).
Things don't add up. I'm pretty sure you were in the demographic and just are vainly attempting to deny it.
And Mike Mulligan was printed the same year as you would've been born (1939) so I seriously doubt it was a childhood hand me down from your father if you were in fact 75.
That was my presumption - thus you were right around the demographic, close enough you should've been familiar with it at least. (12 yrs old when RR started)
Not to mention you being a Sci Fi person not knowing one of the most prominent actor from STNG's history seems bizarre.
It's like the rare time you hear someone say "What's Disney?" or some other eponymous thing, RR was fricking huge.
I grew up with Reading Rainbow but thought it was silly as a kid. I think my experience probably mirrors Chuk, in that I was introduced to reading very early and read constantly. So was pretty unimpressed with a program that tried to teach kids the obvious fact that reading was fun.
I see the importance now though.
McFarlane deserves the credit that he gets. It could either be someone else doing it or it could be no one. Neither of those things are true -- it is McFarlane doing it. And he deserves that credit.
But don't think its altruism. McFarlane's claim to fame is fart jokes. Of course he's going to pivot now that fart jokes have made him legit. I mean there is such a thing as affected overbearing cynicism -- but then there is such a thing as healthy cynicism. Now that he has money McFarlane isn't human garbage. I never really thought he was though.
these are the woman that goofy looking motherfucker has banged, i can't hate the playa. also american dad is funny
He has got one of those faces that you just want to punch.
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