As much as I want to say "fuck you hollywood and your reboots" I will probably watch this and the Independence day one :P
MGM and Warner Bros. announced they are teaming with Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin to create a re-imagined trilogy based on the sci-fi hit Stargate, one of the biggest titles in the MGM library. Emmerich, who directed and co-wrote the original film with Devlin, is on board to direct this one, with Devlin producing. Those two are already hard at work on a new version of Independence Day at Fox.
MGM’s Gary Barber called Emmerich and Devlin “world-class creators of the original Stargate,” and said they will “bring their reinvigorated vision of this wildly popular property to audiences of multiple generations.”
Said Emmerich and Devlin: “The Stargate universe is one that we missed terribly, and we cannot wait to get going on imagining new adventures and situations for the trilogy. This story is very close to our hearts, and getting the chance to revisit this world is in many ways like a long lost child that has found its way back home.” MGM’s Jonathan Glickman will oversee it with Warner Bros’ Greg Silverman. Warners will distribute with MGM handling some international territories. Back in its day, Stargate set the record for highest October gross and did near $200 million in global ticket sales. It went on to have a very successful run as a syndicated TV series.
As much as I want to say "fuck you hollywood and your reboots" I will probably watch this and the Independence day one :P
I'll probably watch this but I liked the SG1 (and Atlantis kinda) too much so I'll go into it especially skeptical.
I have accepted that literally every movie + TV show that was good will be rebooted because television needs 16:9 HD quality at a minimum these days. Hopefully they will do the next series justice.
i didn't realize that stargate took place in the marvel universe.....
"I have recently been examining all the known superstitions of the world, and do not find in our particular superstition (Christianity) one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology.
The Stargate TV shows haven't been off the air that long, so I am somewhat skeptical. The original film from the early 90s was ok, but over a decade of TV show lore is a ton of stuff to ignore/reboot.
I guess they could pull a Star Trek and try to do some timey-whimey stuff to explain the reboot, but based on previous articles, Roland Emmerich's view was "lol, fuck TV show! My idea was better!"
I'm sure this will piss a lot of fans off of the TV series.
I just want to see the god damn Furlings.
I think the guys who made the movie kinda hated the direction the TV show went, so this probably isn't good news for fans of the TV series. I'd prolly rather get another campy low budget direct to Netflix movie, but I wonder if they make much money on those.
this can't go well.
The TV series did go totally off the rails by season 3 of the first series. (while some people did enjoy that for what it was. it was a very different thing from the movie and early seasons of Stargate. and THAT thing, would make a terrible movie.)
And I have not entirely sure the guys that made the movie have any idea why it was so good in the first place.
No Kurt Russel. can't get the lighting back into the bottle.
think they did okish in the end
Continuum cost $7m and sold $8m
Ark of Truth cost $7mil and sold $9m
didn't see any info on digital
they were going to do SG-A movie, but reportedly MGM's financial problems killed that.
Best I'm hoping for is not this:
feel i knew this at one point but drawing a blank, what was Emmerich's original vision for series?
irish black tranny from The Crying Games goes back in time and enslaves the negroes of egypt
also i don't think Richard McGyver Anderson will fit through the stargate anymore
I'm not sure they were included in the TV show originally, MGM had the rights and hired some writers.
MacGyver is really fat. I wonder how he will get out of that situation with only a swiss army knife and a paper clip
It's just shit after shit. Stargate's quality is inexplicable really.
As for the series, I would say, rewatch the Pilot. "children of the gods" and compare it to where the series went.
The wiki talks about the variance a bit.
"Dean Devlin had originally planned to have two movie sequels pick up the story from his 1994 original Stargate. The first movie already tapped into Egyptian mythology; the second one would have moved into other mythologies; and the third would tie together all mythologies. Devlin then gave Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM) control over the franchise, and MGM decided to make a TV series based on the movie. Also, author Bill McCay wrote a series of five novels based on Roland Emmerich's notes, continuing the story the original creators had envisioned to Devlin's dismay. SG-1 showrunners Brad Wright and Jonathan Glassner altered the canon by introducing many novel concepts with their mythology of the SG-1 and Atlantis series."
As a huge stargate fan who watched ands owned all the movies and series, I don't care if they reboot all the canon and start again, I just more stargate and will take what I can get!
he actually had some knee surgery and shit (from stuntwork on the show?) which left him unable to even move for years, so its pretty fucked up to make fun of it but we're assholes. but RDA is a boss and if he wants to get fat i say he earned it
That's what i'm saying. I can't diss RDA, love the man.
After SG-1 was over he reportedly had back surgery and then undisclosed illness which left he bedridden for a time
I guess the biggest issue, and maybe they've explained it somewhere, is that Ra was a glowy alien guy and all the gua'ulds were snake dudes in the series. So if you go back to the original then the entire TV show becomes non-canon? You'd almost have to do some different story that didn't involve gua'ulds.
I was never a fan of Atlantis. Felt like what they did with Star Trek: Enterprise. Something always just felt off. Almost felt like watching a soap opera or teen drama or something. Where is my old school heavy on science fiction SG1?
MWS Natural "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving black people approaches 1."
I think they did a great job of recreating that chemistry in Atlantis with Shepard and Co.
Liked everyone on Atlantis except Teyla. that bitch was nails on a chalkboard
They did explain it in SG-1. Ra was a Goa'uld hosted in an Asgard body, and later switched to a human slave when his Asgard body could no longer be kept alive. Granted the movie alien looks a bit different from the Asgards in the show (especially the teeth), but it's possible his Asgard body was kept that way with a sarcophagus since we know the Asgards have changed over the millenia due to their cloning reproduction process. As for the glowy effects when he gets angry, I'm assuming that's either artistic license from the director, or intimidation technology meant to scare the masses when Ra is pissed.
Another fun fact about the pilot episode of SG-1, it had full frontal nudity for Daniel Jackson's wife!
*keeps glasses on, fuck it*
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That explanation was 10x dumber than SGU lore.
Universe was ass and there was little hope changing that, other than killing off most of the cast, getting new writers and a new show runner.
I looked it up with google-fu before I posted and saw that. Didn't recall it ever being in the show... Just figured it was a fanfic explanation.
It had one redeeming quality:Universe, however, had no redeeming qualities.
But yeah, otherwise it felt like an attempt to make BattleStarGatelactica.
" I wonder if you are destined to be forgotten. Will your life fade in the shadow of greater beings?"
Anyway, here is a link to the Stargate Wiki page of Famrir, the Asgard who was the host of Ra. It mentions that this information is from a canon RPG supplement to the show.
As far as I recall, there is no reason why Asgards would not be hosts to Goa'uld. As mentionned on the page above, Ra used Famrir's body only until he discovered Earth and the Tau'ri, at which point every Goa'uld decided to host into a human body because they are so much easier to maintain alive with sarcophagus and far far easier to repair (as well as being easier to pretend to be gods without having to use holograms like Thor for instance).
Besides, the Asgard are a dying race, so it didn't make much sense for the Goa'uld to keep trying to use them. That, and Goa'uld ships get their asses kicked by Asgard tech.
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the SG1 lore just was weird and not worth trying to wrap your head around, none of it was very consistent. With the Ancients (precursors to humans?) coming from the Atlantis galaxy, the Tokra, the Wraith, the Replicators, etc its all muddy how exactly things worked and iirc all the humans in our galaxy spawned from Earth which again doesn't really make sense if Ra came during the Egypt times and got kicked out like... 200 years later, given the timelines involved not to mention all speaking English ugggh it gets bad.
I do appreciate SGU trying to "fix" this problem by running into no aliens for the first season, and having the aliens in season 2 be completely alien and not understand/think like us at all, but I guess I prefer the "star trek" approach of "these aliens make absolutely no sense but ok lets roll with it" because its more fun and viewable. Farscape did have some good aliens though.
been reading more about RDA'a health. in the 90's, he was very active skier, cyclist, etc and was always fairly accident free. during the sg years he had a rash of issues and surgeries, broken arms, neck, foot, back and knee problems. It seems like they were from his hobbies and not anything acting related. he ended up having 3 knee surgeries while doing the series. when filming SG:Continuum found out he had heart problem which required surgery. sometime after that, had crippling pain in his feet which required multiple surgeries, pins put into his ankle and toes and something like a year long rehab.
i know he always says he left the show to spend more time with his daughter, but sounds like he was falling apart.
It actually can be both at the same time.
That sort of fat looks like medication induced fat, tbh, rather than any sort of "i'ma just be a fatty now" kind of fat.
Total SG nerd here. I have every episode of every series and all the movies available to me a the click of a button.
Spoilering due to length and nerdiness:
As for the new movies... Meh. I've never been a big fan of Dean Devlin and Roland Emmerich's productions. These guys are pretty much on the same level as Michael Bay when it comes to their craft. They make big, flashy, dumb movies, with loads of explosions and tits. They're decent popcorn flicks, but it's not good science fiction in any way, shape, or form.
That's what I thought. I'm not as big a Stargate nerd as you, but I've watched every episode of SG-1 more than once, and I didn't remember anything about Ra inhabiting an Asgard to explain away the movie.That whole "Ra was an Asgard prior to his discovery of Earth" hypothesis is BS fan-fic. Never happened. In SG-1, prior to the Goa'uld having human hosts, they used Unas. While they mentioned that the Goa'uld had used various alien species, they never showed them using anything but humans or Unas (except for an episode where they were stuck in a ziggurat and the Goa'uld jumped into a non-sentient critter to survive).
I had almost forgotten about the Nox. I really wish they had focused more on the existing history they had created rather than jumping the shark into ascended beings and religious zealots. They could have done amazing things with the Furlings, the Nox, and the Asgard. So much wasted sci-fi potential.
Should have been like this:
Goa'uld. Arc lasts 2-4 seasons.
Asgard/Replicators. Arc lasts 2-3 seasons.
Nox/nemesis'. Arc lasts 1-2 seasons.
Furling/nemesis'. Arc lasts 1-2 seasons.
Ancients/nemesis'. Arc lasts 1-3 seasons.
Big finale... then DONE!
Instead it was like, Goa'uld for 7 seasons. Ancients for 5. Asgard for a combined total about half a season. 2 episodes for the Nox. 1 episode mentioning the Furlings. What a wasted opportunity.
Still upset the Asgard blew themselves up. Thor was win. I loved that one "clip episode" where they are debating whether to end the SG program/the SG team, then they get Thor to beam in and basically say "Keep SG command or we won't be pleased" and all the politicians piss themselves and vote to keep the SG program open ;p
SG:1 finale was the biggest FU to fans. A whole episode on how to dodge a freaking laser. FUN.
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The Furlings basically became an epic fucking troll by the writers. I can just picture a bunch of fat neckbeards sitting in the writing room "huehuehue-ing" as they name drop Furlings with no intention of ever giving real information about them.
I got russtled when they turned the show into Farscape without the cool puppets/Harvey. Thankfully we got Shepard around that time. The whole Ori arc was balls.
It jumped the shark for me alot earlier.
Re-occuring villains was its deathknell for me. Humanizing these utterly alien gods, totally removed all threat from them. As well as the complete and total focus on making SG:1 characters demigods. The entire galaxy revolves around 4 humans.. particularly by the end. the series would have been MUCH better if the people were more disposable, and the series focused more on the organization as a whole. by the end of the series they all have fucking magic powers.
I loved ba'al, even when he was CEO ba'al. First time a saw Oberyn in GoT, I was like hey it's Ba'al jr.
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