It still has a bit over a month to go, but this sort of peeked my interest. Seems a solid effort to get in on the Walking Dead success. Can't say however I have ever watched a TNT series. Have any ever been worth a fuck?
The Last Ship | TNTdrama.com
Their mission is simple:
Find a cure. Stop the virus.
Save the world.
When a global pandemic wipes out eighty percent of the planet's population, the crew of a lone naval destroyer must find a way to pull humanity from the brink of extinction.
Executive Producer Michael Bay presents The Last Ship, starring Eric Dane, Rhona Mitra and Adam Baldwin. Coming to TNT June 22 at 9/8c.
This comes on prior to Falling Skies series on Sunday night. Still not sure if it will be worth a shit, but here is the old thread anyways.
13 minutes in and shits already exploding. At least it has shipgasms.
Last edited by Olebass; 06-23-2014 at 01:16 AM.
The cheese is strong with this one. They used bs flashbacks and OOC comments to pull on the sappy heart and guilt strings of the viewer. They then had previously efficient military personnel suddenly turn stupid so that another character could rebound off them and sound heroic (and possibly a tired trope mutiny in the future), and then throw in a wtf conspiracy at the end. The explosions were ok but overall BSG this is not.
+1 though for killing the black guy first, gotta stick with the classics.
I've been playing too much DOTA2...I kept expecting the Russians to yell "CYKA!"
Well I am glad someone commented besides me at least.
I didn't think it was all that bad actually. Yes there was a million things done wrong, but goddamn I love warships and it is almost worth watching it each week for that alone.
Looked up some ship facts( the one in the show is fictional but it is a real guided missile cruiser used in filming called the USS Halsey DDG-97.
Class & type: Arleigh Burke class destroyer
Displacement: 9,300 tons
Length: 509 ft 6 in (155.30 m)
Beam: 66 ft (20 m)
Draft: 31 ft (9.4 m)
Propulsion: 4 × General Electric LM2500-30 gas turbines, 2 shafts, 100,000 shp (75 MW)
Speed: 30+ knots (55+ km/h)
Complement: 257 officers and enlisted
Armament: 1 × 32 cell, 1 × 64 cell Mk 41 vertical launch systems, 96 × RIM-66 SM-2, BGM-109 Tomahawk or RUM-139 VL-Asroc, missiles
1 × 5/62 in (127/62 mm), 2 × 25 mm, 4 × 12.7 mm guns
2 × Mk 46 triple torpedo tubes
1 x 20mm Phalanx CIWS
Aircraft carried: 2 × SH-60 Sea Hawk helicopters
Range 4400 nmi
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I liked it enough to keep watching. Other than laughing at fuses that can be kept from blowing with sheer moxy, I wasn't too bothered by the inconsistencies. Nothing is ever 100% accurate on these shows, and at least we get a ton of warship porn, which is almost as good as airplane porn, so I'll continue to watch. I also like many of the actors, and Rhona Mitra is nice to look at, so good enough for me. Actually, I take that back...it was much better than I expected it to be in fact.
Was a good way to waste 45 minutes.
Edit side note bagged food I would be a bit qestionable about but canned food could easily be put through the decontamination washes used to clean the crew.
Last edited by kaid; 06-23-2014 at 09:31 PM.
The good thing about Bay doing this is the military letting him use 2 real destroyers to film it. Of course Bay is required to show the Navy in good light as a result, which I have no issue with.
I read a interesting article earlier detailing how hard it is to film a episode in 10 days on a Destroyer with crew+250 film crew in already cramped quarters and setting up green screens around the ship( much of it was filmed in port, the surrounding is green screened in ). Some crazy shit there the Navy went out of their way on. It is a awesome destroyer though and the one used last night was only commissioned 9 years ago. Still being built in low capacity even with the new holy shit rail gun stealth design being built nonstop right now.
I noticed he said 3 billion last night in the show, the true cost was around 1.9 billion per one. Not sure why they messed up that fact, unless factoring in crew value/weapon value.
I've ALWAYS been a ship/sub freak since I could read, I guess I was forgetting just how armored they are now compared to WW2/viet era. Would explain that extra 8000 tons over the WW2 versions.
Not surprised the Navy is backing it, because whenever you see TV/movies focus on the Navy, it's either carrier/flight oriented/heavy or something like Navy Seals.
This show would be better if it was in space, and if instead of running from viruses it was evil robots.
Calling me a Cunt is a lot like calling Hitler a Nazi, it's not exactly received as the insult you were intending.
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BSG actually was a pretty good "Navy" show when you get down to it
Apparently the Halsey eventually had to duty so the navy let them use 2 destroyers.
I'm still confused about the missile not damaging it however. The USS Cole was the same class/armor and some guys in Yemen managed to fuck it up pretty bad hull wise with a boat bomb.
Regardless it was a hit for TNT. 5.4 million viewers including 2.6 in the sweet ad range. 7.4 million for the night. Falling Skies by comparison did 3.7 million viewers and it showed same channel after it.
Would be even easier if it was a one way trip , fuck it use the whole roll of duct tape , we ain't coming back habib.
Ahh explains that then. I never looked up the dingy yield and that is a pretty damn strong blast.
Also those same missiles didn't even have enough concussion force to knock a guy off a snowmobile 10 feet away, come to think of it the missiles were a complete fuckup.
I thought Bay was the master of explosions.
They were Russian missiles. They were probably 25-30 years old ;P
A boat filled with explosives is way more dangerous to a destroyer than an anti tank missile would be. It hits at the water line on a low to non angled surface so the armor there is less than impacting off the front armor on the main superstructure. Had the helos been launching anti shipping missiles from that close of range it is unlikely it could have survived one let alone multiples. But old soviet hellfire equivalents would probably cause some damage but mostly superficial and repairable.
It was objectively bad, especially both Captain America and Science MILF characters. I didn't mind acting tho, since my brain was too busy fighting nonsense writing. Would watch couple more episodes to see if there's more warship porn than vaccine/cure drama, but it doesn't look good at all.
Hey, I found this fairly entertaining. Much better than yet another police procedural.
Something has got to explode every episode.
We should do a Bay drinking game.
"We don't negotiate" line, drink!
Stereotypical evil Russian villain...although given the way some of his officers were glancing around, I wouldn't be half surprised if they frag the admiral eventually.
Also lol at that guy who has the relationship with that girl getting mad after he put himself into the situation to begin with
Captain: We need a girl for this mission
Girl: ok! I am an expert shot
Guy: Sir, send me on the mission dammit!
Guy: Fucking bitch, you messed things up! I almost got everyone killed because of you!
As cheesy as this show is, it's got me hooked. Show will get interesting when they find the line sex trade ship that has avoided the virus.
I don't think it is cheesy at all. It is really better than 90% of the shit series out there imo. On the other hand I watched Falling Skies after it and I couldn't tell you a thing about it, I kept wandering off to do other things.
The dialogue back and forth between the Russian Admiral and the American Capt. was cheesy. I really wish the capt. would have blasted them and chugged out of there.
Not sure really how the russian thought he was really going to get the doctor lady. Give her to us or we shall nuke you. Okay sir go right ahead. Then you get no cure and you and your crew and everybody you love dies to the weaponised plague. They cannot take her from the ship themselves the "spy" they had never had any real chance of success.
Also one thing that bugs me is why the doctors sat phone was not placed in a secure facility after its existence was made known to the captain. There is no reason for it any longer after all access to the CDC was lost.
Liked the three episodes so far. IMDB has 9 episodes listed so far. Since it is a cable summer series sounds about right.
Best thing about the show, Rhona Mitra. Rhona Mitra - IMDb
Just needs a good shower decontamination scene stat.
what the heck is going on with bubble boy who eats mice
ok show but not sure how they can stretch this out forever. the foreshadowing is too heavy handed, mole guy asking the captain "WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOUR FAMILY WAS TAKEN" derp
10 episode season so only 7 more this summer, would be nice if its setup like fargo or horror story or true detective where an entire story is told in 1 season but I am pretty sure instead they are gonna go full retard by the end of the season.
In an engagement between missile cruisers like that, the victor would be whoever could lock and fire first; the CIWS are effective but not against a full spread. They wouldn't be sitting there star trek style staring at each other. The Aegis destroyer probably would have prevailed due to superior EW. Those Kirov class boats are old as fuck.
Watching them do some kind of mission impossible special action rather than opening up with their missiles was disappointing. :P
Still find it interesting TNT ordered 10 but only 9 titles have been released in name/description. I assume the 10th was on hold until they see if it was a green light for more seasons first?
Show still got 4.1 million viewers which for cable shows was #1 again Sunday. Falling Skies in comparison pulled 2.7 million.
Last edited by Olebass; 07-11-2014 at 04:13 AM.
the logic for not firing was that the russian ship had nukes so unless you can score a total kill rapidly the other ship will just set off a nuke and kill everyone
the russian ship didn't fire since it wanted dr lara croft, alive
Show has great Ship porn. I tune in for that and rockets that have zero splash damage.
Originally Posted by Noodleface
This week we also get the premier of The Strain on Fx so my DVD is going to be busting some nuts on Sunday now between TLS, TS, Naked and Afraid and other shows.
I like this show. It's a little over the top, but so are a lot of shows.
It would make a really cool Star Trek if they put it in space.
Damn fine acting in places and you need it with a show like this.
The last episode hooked me in to watch this for a long time. The fact that they had actual issues and had to find solutions was unlike most modern TV.
If it weren't a summer series I probably wouldn't watch it but it's better then reruns of Law and Order.
Not a single round popped off as they approached? Bullshit.
They was looking for help, are you saying they should have mowed them down or fired randomly to draw even more people at them?
This obviously was renewed but with 13 episodes for next season. #1 again this week. I guess I need a new drinking game. I don't recall anything exploding this past episode.
This most recent episode reminded me of an episode of Stargate SG-1 kinda, except drug lords instead of Jaffa and Go'uald.
I like how they went from "get surrounded by armed men who execute a perfect ambush" to Rambo'ing in breaking necks with no weapons and take over the whole camp. If they were so aware of surroundings and able to move quietly how did they fucking get surrounded and ambushed in the first place?
Meh, I can believe it. They didn't know there was a camp up ahead and it had 14 ex drug lords with guns setting traps who were used to evading and ambushing people all their life. They expected at worse some crazy people near death.
The trap the red shirt stepped in distracted them enough for the ex rebel coconut leader thugs to make a move and win the situation.
Saw similar stuff earlier this year on Disco where a special forces/well trained military man/seals do this in various countries ( it was training where a army would have to track and capture and the dude would have to counter and evade ), traps are not made usually to kill people but to slow them down, distract or redirect. They wasn't prepared for it. Likewise at the end they used the same principle against the rebels. Injured man, been gone for hours, got the monkeys they came for. The rebels let their guard down and whammy.
Didn't they also shoot the flare off near that camp alerting the drug lords to their presence. When they went all seal team 6 they didn't alert them.
Originally Posted by Noodleface
i'm thinking about jumping ship (was not intended) to this series, after the strain is so far really horrible, thoughts since most are 5 eps in?
Worth watching imo. It isn't rated #1 for the summer for being totally bad. Even better to watch on nights nothing else is on. All 5 are on demand and also TNT's website if you log into the site from your provider.
Yeah, I getting a slight SG-1 vibe here for some reason. Nothing at all to do with space and aliens of course, but the close-knit team with superior tech draws that parallel I guess. I like it. Probably my favorite new summer series.
I was surprised that went so obvious with the underage rape theme. It's TNT after all. It's an entertaining show. I'll stick with it for now.
God damn this show sucks. Whoever thought it would be a good idea to take BSG, focus on one random ship, and delete the whole space scifi element is retarded.
I don't know if I'll continue to watch it but I bet the show does well.
Quality wise The Last Ship isn't stellar, but it's happening on a dire TV season with mud-level shit shows like The Strain. Military stuff and naval ship porn ? Count me in ! IMO it's way better than herp derp wig divorced father dealing with mankind's fate between family counseling / AA meetings. At least The Last Ship isn't pretending anything, it's the show you kind of enjoy watching for shits, while The Strain is the kind of show pretending stuff with big names and money. Fuck your biological vampires, I need more warship porn !
You can always tell when a show is endorsed by the military, because they almost always fall into the "good vs. evil" paradigm vs. shades of grey. SG-1 was sort of like that and the Airforce was endorsing them. British traitor guy will always be an asshat, Russians admiral will always be evil, terrorists are terrorists, etc.
Sure it was. Gouald were evil, Jaffa were just pawns (think dictators and people conscripted to fight for them). Most of the dicks were representative of civilian oversight when you think about it...virtually all the solutions came from the core airforce team.
Ya near 4.4 million viewers this week again. Was 2nd for Sunday though with the Nascar Race coming in #1 with 5.2 million viewers.
This show will be around a few years.
Wonderful, vaccines work in 30 seconds now.
Huh, who got vaccinated? It never showed if the dude was going to live or die before hell broke loose.
It doesn't matter if it was a working vaccine or fake sugar water, even the writers for the World War Z movie were smart enough to know Brad Pitt couldn't inject himself and then walk outside in 30 seconds.
I'll say it: this show is literally dumber than the World War Z movie.
i liked it i thought it was the season finale at first cuz they seemed to have wrapped shit up, i assume things go tits up next though
poor kapitan khan, he was all set to be the next billionaire putin and he got foiled by lara croft
Gotta love the almost laughably pure black & white moral situations. Everyone is evil, cept 'MURICA! Everyone who get shit on (British, random non-Americans) must embrace 'MURCIA as well or they become badguys.
In anycase, seems like that Russian ship is fucked. Even if they aren't all dead from the explosion, patient zero walking around won't be helping matters.
They never showed if the dude was cured or not, who knows what she used. All she needed to do was buy time for the rescue plan, hell she could have injected cat piss into him intentionally, saying fuck it. We don't know.
The patriotism in Last Ship seems a lot like the patriotism in 24.
Was kinda fun to see Americans going full ninja into that soviet ship with M4, suppressors, explosive devices and kevlar helmets / vests while bolcheviks boarding response is six guys with urban camo fatigues and unmodded AK-74s. I like TLS because it has that warship / military porn going on, but that blatlant "WE HAVE NAVY MONEY" front is getting ridiculous (and I'm talking about Michael Bay's ridiculous). And I'm talking about a show where US Navy's main villain is called Ruskov. I mean come on, this is somewhat entertaining, we don't really need strong militaly imperialism to cum on chest, at this point.
Lol, you expected different from Bay? Mark my words: A future episode will involve a "limp wristed liberal" wanting to appease some bad guy, but the NAVY will show them the power of FREEDOM.
The season finale will feature the Tactical Mariner Navy Team displaying their finesse and subtlety as a car is split down the middle while meteors shoot down overhead.
Just watched the finale. Thought the season ended pretty strong
On an action and interesting plot development point, the finale was pretty strong, but really, that has to the dumbest evil plan ever*, it fails to make sense in any way whatsoever.
* The bar for this is pretty low - one of the previous record holders was the movie where a secretive order of European knights were trying to bring down America by smuggling soap to the confederate army.
Overall happy with the series, especially now they have a cure and it can go to the other wacky shit in a world mostly dead. Just hope it doesn't take a Falling Skies or Revolution survival route.
We have what 9 months until it starts back up again ( 3 extra episodes next year ). Also pretty sure we haven't seen the last of the merc.
Got to give Bay a B+ for not just blowing shit up for 42 minutes every week.
I sort of figured out the "twist" when the sniper didn't take the blocked shot. You would figure that hardcore warlords wouldn't give a shit about collateral damage, especially considering he had a really powerful gun. Then again, it's typical Michael Bay. Citizen militias = good, elitists + their cops = bad!
Seems like killing off the Captain's wife helps setup a cliched love triangle (capt + merc + lara croft). Either that or British dude dies and his wife becomes fair game ;p
Going in I had given his wife a 50/50 of life/death. I was a bit shocked she died but glad I was at least right.
Killing people to burn them as fuel was unexpected. Next thing you know, Natasha Yar will be seen having cookouts.
I'm not sure how practical human body immolation would be as a reliable power source ;p
Well, to be fair, the movie does state that was combined with a form of fusion. People always miss the fusion part. Plus they sort of retconned the 1st movie slightly and you come to find out that the power aspect was kind of BS anyways and it was really just the machines being benevolent to the human race (in their own way).
wtf kind of michael bay move is letting a bunch of fat cops sneak take over a USS Destroyer? For shame Mr Bay, for shame. Unless one of the cops is a decepticon or something
entertaining enough finale although it all felt anti-climatic after the previous episode. I think this show woulda worked better as a 1-shot, with the finale being the crew returning to a Last of Us/Fallout style America, realizing that even with a cure the world is a pretty fucked up place now.
still, the Smoke Monster being a good guy will be interesting for season 2. the captain went full out retard this episode though, hope they dial back his stupidity a bit
A Burke could take on three missiles no problem.
ASMs big danger depends on how much fuel it's still carrying by the time it strikes. Fire is a ships #1 danger, though that danger has been mitigated in recent years by the return of steel hulls, though aluminium is still used in superstructures to keep top weight down.
Anti-tank sized missiles are only used for small boats though these days dual use SAMs are used more then ASMs for a variety of reasons.
Aegis and VLS tubes allow a Burke to target and engage as many targets as it wishes. The only limit to the system back in the day was it being tied to the old launchers that had to reload, now that's not an issue.In an engagement between missile cruisers like that, the victor would be whoever could lock and fire first; the CIWS are effective but not against a full spread.
CIWS is shit for engaging missiles and always has been, It's only good for taking out boats and even then a Phalanx chews through ammo too quickly.
The issue with CIWS is that by the time bullets can hit a missile that missiles already so close that the debris will continue on and impact the ship.
They were designed to guard Soviet sub bastions and carry as many ASMs as they could to fling at Carrier Battle Groups before they died, most like before they got anywhere close enough to launch their missiles.Those Kirov class boats are old as fuck.
They weren't great in the Cold War and they're worse now after the treatment they've received rotting all these decades. They're still good to counter most foes Russia might meet, most likely using tired old ASMs they gave them and training their crews, especially their nukes so their experience isn't lost.
That's BS and you know it. It's like saying I make fires out of inflammable shit in combination with heaping gallons of gasoline.Well, to be fair, the movie does state that was combined with a form of fusion.
Felt like it lol. There was a ton of eye rolling moments to be sure. The preview for the rest of the season makes it seem like the new badguys will basically be nazis/daleks/etc.
Ya the bad guys is basically anyone alive. Probably as it would be after 80% of the world died off.
I didn't think it was that bad, other than the raging guy on the ship drooling at the mouth the last half anytime someone did something heroic.
I really like the CO, Doc, Tex and Master at arms guys. The XO most of the time I can't stand. Rest is so so to me.
Couple things erked me, which tells how bad the writing is too I guess. The merc with the doc meets up with the captain, the extras lead the doc back to the underground while the merc leads the way with the captain in the opposite direction, next thing you know the merc is helping the doc down the ladder to the underground... wtf? Kids ruining the scenes thinking they know better, typical, well he's got 20 mins then I'm going out, ok 12 year old barbie badasswannabe. But I guess no different than the wtf moments in other summer series like falling skies.
"Hey, stranger. You say your speciality is security? Here's a gun!"
Well, it is a Michael Bay production. What do you expect?
WTF. This last episode was fucking stupid.
"Oh noes the gas leak is in the main line!" Cut to an aerial view of the oil rig -> explosion -> commercial break -> everyone back on the Nathan James.
And fucking killed my girl too. God damn it.
Ya I said the same thing in another thread here about it. The whole build up of the gas rig danger then cut to landing on the ship was complete dog ass. With worms.
It reminded me of the Stargate joke episode (200?) where they are trying to think of TV show ideas and they do one scene where there is a huge army and no way to escape, then they cut to them returning to base through the portal and saying "Man, I can't believe that plan worked!" and they don't actually say what the plan is/how they escaped ;P
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