Same here. I have both the K70 and K60. The K70 blows the K60 out of the water in every aspect.
Are you part of our elite club? What are your favorite brands, switches etc?
Mine, as of yesterday:
Newegg.com - Corsair Vengeance K70 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Black - Cherry MX Red
Same here. I have both the K70 and K60. The K70 blows the K60 out of the water in every aspect.
I played around with my brother in law's MX Red and thought it sucked. Felt basically like a high quality membrane keyboard. Not sure why you'd spend the money on a mech and get a Red or Black switch. I use a Das Blue for Mac at work and a Das Brown at home. I also have a Blackwidow but replaced it since the Das decks were far, far better.
I've been using an Xarmor U9 with Browns for years and love it. Haven't looked in forever at what else is out there.
Pussy bitch Draegan sold us out to MMORPG.com
Exodus underway to Rererolled - A Gaming Community
Oh and sorta fuck Tuco too.
If you **TAP TAP** a mechanical **TAP TAP TAP** keyboard please don't use **TAP** when talk **TAP** in VOIP, thanks.
I have a Ducky Shine. Nice keyboard.
It was also funny because my brother in law is kind of a wanna-be techy but he always misses the mark ever so slightly. So when he got his mech deck (again Reds) he was like "Check it out hear how clicky it is!" And it was just the sound of him bottoming out the keycap. He doesn't know that I'm pretty versed in mech keyboards. I didn't correct him. He didn't seem to know anything about actuate points, linear vs tactile, clicky vs silent or bumps/depression force.
I have the Blackwidow Ultimate 2013. Love it. I had a Ducky Shine but I prefer the Razer.
Having flashbacks of attempting to watch Incontrol stream.
I own several mech KB's. The best build quality IMO is the Deck (The Deck you can literately kill someone with it followed up with a 1000 word essay the next minute). Followed by Ducky, then Max and DAS keyboards. You can absolutely can not go wrong with any of those brands. Razer is by far the cheapest of the bunch in build quality. I would not recommend over any of the others I listed. I use my Blackbird KB's the most. Just wish they made red switches.
Somebody help an old man out. What's the advantage of a mechanical keyboard? I mean, I learned to type on a manual typewriter, and it wasn't special at all.
the can handle more key strokes at a time, think holding down forward, straiff, jump, swich weapson, etc, and it has more buffer, meaning you can hit more key strokes before the system starts beeping cause you have a stuck yet.
but most important is jut the feel. there's a half dozen popular mechanical types of keys. each taking a differnet amount of pressure, and different typing of 'clicking'. some are silent if you don't 'bottom out'. others have a click you feel so you know when you can release the key.
Interesting, thanks! +1
I haven't had my keyboard lock since those old PS/2 connectors.
for me it's about the ergonomics, i use a modified kinesis.
This is the only keyboard i ever want to use, so sad they discontinued them and replaced them with 4000 version that just does not have the same feel. I always keep an eye out for the odd sale of old stock.
I have gone through 3 of them ! Each time i try to get another brand but ended up returning it for lack of feel. I even had to go buy one for my office.
I hate the little feet however as they are very delicate and as dont hold up to a MMOPVP rage smash.
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I got this bad boy for 60$ on sale. It's pretty sweet.
This might make me sound like an idiot, but how do I know if I have a mechanical keyboard? I'm using some second-hand keyboard I can't even remember where I got it, and I'm curious.
I finally got tired of the soggy key rebound and about a 10keyless Cooler Master Quickfire Rapid w/ Cherry brown switches. I'm still not back to 100% on touch typing, but I'm loving the key response and the roughly 90 feet of space savings this gives me over the MS 4k it replaced.
It's tough as hell, too. The first thing my GF did when she was using it was to fall asleep at the wheel and dunk 1/4 glass of wine into it. Little bit of Windex in the sticky keys, and it was as good as new. That right there would have killed any membrane keyboard in an instant.
for all you ppl that love the microsoft 4000, just think about upgrading.
i used the microsoft 4000(we'll just call it ms4k) for years, like 6?
it has a lot of good ergo properties.
it has tenting(if you look at it headon, the split is like a hump and forms a tent)
it has a really nice faux wrist rest(you should actually be using a wrist rest on your palms, resting on your wrists is not good) that's contoured
it has negative slope if you put on the bottom brace (angles the keyboard down, so your hands are like in the position that you put them in if you get a manicure)
but it can't take a lick of water.
i would have 2 ms4k's in my closet just in case (of course later on i just learned not to drink at my desk)
but the rubber domes (membrane) keys are really really bad. once you use more ergonomic mechanical keyboards, you'll feel the difference.
it's basically like, rubber domes are going up a hill in an automatic RWD honda civic as opposed to
mechanical keys is like a AWD manual suburu
try a mechanical keyboard at bestbuy, they usually have them out on display now, or even razer has like the type of packaging where you can play around with a few keys.
then if you want an ergo mechanical keyboard
Amazon.com: Kinesis KB500USB-BLK Advantage USB Contoured Keyboard (Black): Computers Accessories
I should also note that hardly anyone needs NKRO. 6KRO is fine for basically everyone on the planet. NKRO is just marketing by mechanical companies to try and add some form of tangible benefit to their deck which costs $100 more than a membrane.
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I'll second the Corsair Vengeance K70 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard. Best keyboard I ever owned and the red cherry switches are godly.
I just discovered the wonderful universe of mechanical keyboards a few weeks ago. I went full frenzy mode and bought ~10 keyboards total to see which one I like.
So far I have
Cherry G84-4400 (ML Switch)
Acer 6312 (ALPS clones)
Rosewill RK-900 (Cherry MX blue)
IBM Model M (buckling spring)
3 duds so far (rubber domes)
Still waiting on 2 x G80-11900 with mx black I think and some random boards I got for 5-10$ hoping they'll be mechanical with dyesubs or something. I'm looking for a NMB board (space invaders) and some more ALPS (green, cream, blue).
Planing on making a custom keyboard as well (either 60% or ergodox) but there's still a lot to read / learn first.
Check out this amazing piece of work
I should mention that those keycaps sell for hundreds of dollars (original cherry dyesubs) but there's even more retarded stuff going around. Check this out :
Sehr Seltene Cherry Tastatur ESA 3000 Hasro Keyboard English Russian Very RARE | eBay
That price was paid for the keycaps only. Everything else is regular stuff.
Meh its a collectors item. People get attached to and collect way weirder stuff than old computer parts. Not like no one makes dye sublimated keycaps anymore that you couldn't just buy them if you really wanted them.
wow seems like you're really all over the place, you got your foot in here and there, which is still cool.
there's a big difference between a 60% and an ergodox.
one is basically to look cool while the ergodox is trying to be great ergo, which you might not even be used to, most ppl aren't with the matrix style keyspacing.
i think your priority is to figure out which switch you like the most, then think 60% and ergodox. really, the switch is what will limit you in what you will find.
Yeah, I know. That's why I'm trying to get my hands on all major types of switches and try them out. I said 60% or ergodox because everything else I can just run to the store and buy it. I found some really cheap laser cutting for acrylic and I want to give it a shot at handwiring one with salvaged switches (so it should end up pretty cheap).
This is all in the "wishful thinking" / "might do it someday" realm at the moment and I think everyone knows that new hobby frenzy when you want to read/have/do everything NOW.
Grab a switch sampler kit...
Amazon.com: Max Keyboard Keycap, Cherry MX Switch, O-Ring Sampler Tester Kit: Computers Accessories
Kinda offtopic but if anyone is into vintage stuff, this looks like an awesome find (that i'd get myself it it wasn't for the prohibitive shipping fees with mail forwarding & stuff).
Cardinal Technologies Inc Vtg Computer Terminal Keyboard New CP600 1988 Clicky | eBay
edit : check out my home made key cap puller :
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Awesome. I got a pretty nice one w/ my k70
So, I purchased my K70 a couple weeks back. I love it for the most part, but I dislike the key travel length and the loud sound of the key bottoming out.
Does anyone have experience using these o-rings? Preference to either?
Amazon.com: Cherry MX Rubber O-Ring Switch Dampeners Red 40A-L - 0.2mm Reduction (125pcs): Computers Accessories
Amazon.com: Cherry MX Rubber O-Ring Switch Dampeners Blue 40A-R - 0.4mm Reduction (125pcs): Computers Accessories
eh i use a butterknife on a few hundred keycaps, didn't damage nuttin, no pulled out stems.
I need to go look around the warehouses and old tech people offices and find a bunch of these ancient keyboards and sell them on ebay :-) I do miss the mechanicals from like the tandy1000 days of my youth!
For the most part vintage keyboards are too mainstream to have a pile of them sitting around with no one claiming them already. Plus I believe to get them really to sell on ebay you need to convert it from PS/2 to USB. However I think like 5 years ago or so someone found a crate full of very old and very rare new-old-stock IBM keyboards. The price went from like $300 a deck to like $150 overnight.
Our surplus warehouse has issues and no one has been allowed to browse it like you used to as to make sure no one sees the issues...so if I can get in, I bet I could find a few ancient things, we also have 2-4 labs that are computer repair tech labs and the instructors keep stuff just to show kids "this was a floppy drive!" and there are things hidden in cabinets etc. all over... I should hunt for some :-) --- American Computer Pickers! I should start my own show.... film my run ins with old crazy hermit computer techs like Milton that should have been fired long ago but no one told them.
Ordered a Corsair Vengeance K70 as my first mechanical keyboard...I hope you bastards didn't steer me wrong Should be here in a couple days, can't wait.
Do NOT start reading geekhack.org or deskthority.net. I did that trying to decide what switch I want. 3 months later I have ~15 keyboards with 7 more en route. Check out these big boys imgur: the simple image sharer
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Corsair K95 RGB - Halloween Profile - YouTube .
The only problem I've ran into was the lighting will sometimes freeze and I have to switch the polling switch back and forth to make it restart. The software also seems to crash pretty regularly.
I just got a K70 RGB a few weeks ago and love it. I haven't played with the color profile except to match it to my mouse and game pad, but it's not terribly difficult to figure out.
2 years ago i gave my nephew a modified white alps on a 101 rosewill body. He just thinks it's a sturdy keyboard, now he wants these new fangled corsairs with all the LED's and lights!, kids these days!
Oh shit, you speak keyboard. Take it from that ungrateful bastard and send it my way. I've been dieing to try out some alps and got some sweet cream/gray doubleshots from an alpsclone.
This is my latest find Chicony KB-5192 FCC:E8H5IKKB-5191 - Imgur . I was hoping to get MX Clear but instead I got Aristotle Cherry MX clone - Deskthority wiki. At least those secondary legends should be worth something to someone.
Here are the caps all cleaned up => http://i.imgur.com/hhC18pZ.jpg
Clears to me really suck unless you pair them with brown springs to make dubbed "panda clears". I currently have panda clears on my kinesis, the a-z region. i have browns everywhere else and for fun i tried blues in modifiers (shift/ctrl) and just too lazy to change em.
I wouldn't call him ungrateful, well i did mod it, and got good at soldering with that keyboard, he's just a 20something who wants shiny things, he's the only family member that even cares about keyboards, but i think that's probably due to starcraft and those videos of those krazy koreans.
I'm not getting him one btw, hell he doesn't even know the starcraft champs back then were using hard to find white alps. (now i think they just use whatever mechanical shit their sponsors give them)
The lab where I worked ended up relocating from our old building, built in the 1930s, and as we were clearing out everything to move I found a Chicony KB-5181 in perfect condition. Luckily, it came with Monterey blue switches, and I use it on my desktop at home now. Typing has never been more satisfying. There were also a ton of IBM Model M's, but they all were thoroughly used and I couldn't find any without multiple springs needing replacement.
I bought my first K95 in June of 2013. By September I issued my 1st RMA for dead LED lights... and I'm not talking just a couple, it was many... and once they started dying, they kept dying.
I issued my 2nd RMA in March of 2014 for the same problem.
And again in July of 2014. I still have not received my replacement keyboard since my 7/2014 RMA.
That's a RMA every 3-6 months over the past year.
The worst part is that I've been waiting on my most recent RMA replacement for 4 months now, and even though I call every couple of weeks, there's still been no date communicated to me by which I'll get my replacement.
Looks like I'm back in the market for a new keyboard.
any reasonable suggestions?
K95 was cherry MX reds, do you want similar? or lights are really important?
Blackwidows have backlights and I found it to be a reasonably high quality deck for the price. Though I believe they only come in blue and brown switches if you were looking for a linear.
Been using my Corsair Vengeance K70 for a couple weeks now, first mechanical keyboard that I've owned.
I'm finally getting used to it. I had a Logitech G15 keyboard previously, and I think the thing that has thrown me off the most is that the actual keys feel slightly closer together on the K70 than they were on my old logitech POS. Screwed up my typing and gaming for a week or two until I adjusted to the new spacing. Had to constantly look down and readjust my hand placement for a while there, but it's all good now. Seems like a solid keyboard so far, I could probably use it as a weapon for home invasion defense if I had to, the thing is quite dense/heavy for a fairly small keyboard, it's built like a brick.
I was looking to buy a mechanical keyboard during one of the black friday/cyber monday deals. Anyone have any suggestions?
finally got my RMA replacement K95 after issuing the RMA back in early july.
seems its from a different batch, as the space bar is now backlit and i dont think it was on my 3 or 4 previous K95s.
here's to hoping that this one has some better build quality and will last more than 3 months
18 bucks to ship my K95 back. I got one of the newer ones too but seriously that 18 dollars is bullshit.
Just got a refurb'd K95. Reading this thread has me nervous!
The chassis is super solid and the keys work great, it's just the lights that suck.
I was hoping they'd send me one of the colored ones. I even offered to pay the difference.
Funny enough, after my pre-paid ticket was provided, I began to receive tracking numbers and shipping tickets for every RMA customer for the next week. Somehow they tied my email address to the shipping auto-response for all RMA customers.
I forwarded about 140 emails back to Corsair so that they could inform their customers and apologize that they had not been provided shipping/tracking information. They owe me some hardware.
On the upside, I have names, addresses, and RMA numbers of 140 likely disgruntled Corsair customers if anyone wants to assemble an angry mob.
I complained to newegg about what a bunch of shitfuckers Corsair is with their support delays and they gave me a 50 dollar credit.
Use [email protected] if you want to contact a human that speaks English.
So, I'm trying to find k70 rgb with mx blues and it's sold out everywhere :/ what's up with that?
I've heard the new logitech RGB has awesome key switches.
I kinda sold myself on that over the Blackwidow Chroma since they don't use the MX keys, any suggestions?
I already have like 10 LEDS out on the K95 I just got a couple weeks ago. I don't really care, as I usually have them completely turned off anyway. Other than that, it's a great keyboard. I love using it.
is the 95 the 'upgrade' to the 70?
Yeah, I believe so. Got one from Corsair refurbished for 90 bucks, but clearly the LED issue remains. That said, it appears to be brand new as far as I can tell.
90 bucks... was that a sale or is that just something I can find? I seem to see 169 everywhere
Wow, that's awesome, thanks! I wish it had the blues in it, but I think for 90+ shipping it's prolly a sweet deal to grab regardless
Okay so there's a lot of love for the K70/95 but what's the drawback on the Razer Blackwidow Chroma?
okay, So you don't prefer the 95? I guess that's just for the Macro keys, which I honestly never use even on this G15. I'm ready to make the leap, but none of those K70s or 95s are out there with the RGB :/ I kinda want that, I know it doesn't help they keyboard, but it's pretty awesome
Apparently the keys on the G910 are even better for gaming and typing. They built custom switches.
g910 has keyswitches built for logitech called roamer g, basically shorter acuation cherry mx browns. depends if you like different switches or not even though the whole world uses cherry mx.
I would definitely like shorter actuation points.
I guess that's what I'm not understanding. I'm brand new to all of this crap and if everyone is using Cherry switches why would Razer and Logitech build their own? I am very curious as I want to buy one, but I can't find the 95 RGB anywhere, and I figure if I'm going to buy it, lets go ahead and go full nerd and get the cool colors too haha.
Because it's cheaper (Cherry is german, so expensive) and they look at the market an want a piece of it. Why do you think Logitech went with another keycap mount ? they could have easily gone with a cherry compatible mount. Razer just picked the chinese clones but I'm pretty sure they'll come out with something proprietary soon enough.
So, could you help me understand the benefit of the MX vs the Chinese clones? I want to make the right decision, and I'm pretty sold on the Corsair 95 RGB, but if the Razer Chroma is just as good or if the Logitech is equal too, I don't mind going with those, although the Logitech seems the weakest to me (from what I've seen on videos)
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