if anyone is interested the first 3 dragonrider e-books are avail(dragonflight/dragonquest/the white dragon) for 2 bucks(total for all 3) @ B&N and amazon
i have not read them in years but...for the price, getting them
edited saying ebook in text.
Last edited by Lenardo; 03-20-2014 at 04:40 PM.
"Well, that was it. But I won't stop. I won't give up. Because when I look at what is happening in the world, I know that now, more than ever, ...we need to be all that we can be. Now, more than ever, ...we need the Jedi."
2 bucks for all 3 e-books is a good price. which is why i posted this, i already own the books. hell i already have the E-books(!elit file you know)i just figured , good price for 3 really good books.
All of the ones by Anne are pretty enjoyable. The books where she started collaborating with her son are fucking awful.
Bradley is the same way. Her Darkovers are fun. The ones that she let her brother/fans write... not as much.
If you like pern and haven't read Darkover, DO EET FAGGET. They're totally not close to the same thing, but if you like one you'll probably like the other.
Must be US store only... stoopid geo-blocking.... or best not shop at work.
Todd's books, jesus christ it's like fanfic. Really dark fanfic. Between plague after plague, riders dying in every threadfall, freak accidents on top of that, and it quickly got to the point where I just wasn't invested in any of the characters anymore. Like when Fiona gets trapped in the time snarl, I was just like 'oh fucking well there goes Fiona' and then was surprised that the chosen one managed to save her. Speaking of chosen one, WHAT THE FUCK. He turned a light sci-fi setting into fucking high goddamn fantasy. Timing it used to be a fairly dramatic and uncommon occurrence. Instead every single fucking problem gets solved by time travel. Then we have a tribe of gypsies who can see the future. THEN MORE FUCKING TIME TRAVEL.
Ugh. He ruined the fucking series. I honestly probably won't even read After the Fall is Over, assuming Todd finishes it.
Yeah, it's kinda nuts. The whole unspoken point of timing it is that that shit right there... that shit CANNOT be good for you.
I remember reading about the Dragons of Pern by Anne McCraffrey in elementary and middle school. I was obsessed with them. I hated the third book though.
Well, at least none of them are on disability and welfare, amiright?
There are some very prominent gay characters in Darkover as well.
And you root for them. They're not flaming queens, they're just gay dudes. Women wrote both series. I think that makes a difference.
We're not talking about high literature. We're talking about relatively light fantasy. When a dude writes gay characters in light fantasy they turn out to be pedophiles or corpse fuckers. DARKEN RAAAAAAHL. Or if he's gay himself they turn out to be these ridiculous sorts of characters.
Last edited by Iannis; 03-24-2014 at 12:36 AM.
I find that's actually the type you get a lot, where the character is quietly gay. Which makes sense since they're generally living in these generic macho medieval type settings.
As for Dragonriders of Pern, I'm not sure the last one I read. I remember one of them teleporting to a spaceship/satellite, and I think one after that where it was the constant jumping back and forth in time to bring dragonriders from millennia ago to replace dead ones.
I read another from McCaffery once, Dinosaur Planet or something like that. Was about on par with the Pern books. Good mix of sci-fi and caveman type shit.
Loras vs Ringil ?
Dragonflightwas my first Fantasy book ever, and read a lot of the series... not sure I want to ruin that memory by reading these as an adult.
I don't understand how these books have become so successful. Dragonsdawn was enjoyable for the scifi planetary colonization elements and Moreta was interesting to me because of the story of how a primitive society would deal with a disease outbreak, but the main three books of this series were terrible. The moods and motivations of many of the main characters change in an almost bipolar way. One second they are noble and honest, and the next they want to commit genocide. And for some reason McCaffrey likes to use exclamation points in places where they are not needed! I am often at a loss to understand what emotion the character is conveying when the exclamation points are used! This seems to be part of a larger problem where the character interactions make little sense as human beings talking to each other. She often describes the characters as crying with laughter over interactions that seem more awkward than funny or witty. Maybe I don't have the nostalgia of reading these as a child to fall back on, but I have been recently going back and reading some of these older series, and this is the first one I am not enjoying. I will probably finish the third in the main trilogy tonight because I have taken to skipping pages of useless dialog that does nothing to advance the story.
TLDR: I just don't understand what people find appealing about these books.
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