Matt_Ryan__140222030751.jpgWelsh actor Matt Ryan (Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior) is finalizing a deal to play the lead in NBC’s drama pilot Constantine, from Warner Bros TV.
before this announcement someone reportedly stated he will be a Londoner, talk with his accent and have blonde hairWritten by David S. Goyer (Batman Begins, Man of Steel) and Daniel Cerone ("The Mentalist"), NBC has officially ordered a pilot for "Constantine," which will be helmed by The Descent's Neil Marshall.
I watched that movie way too many times for some dumb reason.
i love the Constantine-Lucifer-Gabriel scene and most other parts without LaBeouf were good too.
I loved the movie Constantine. Even with 1/2 of bill and teds excellence.
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I enjoyed Constantine and was hoping a sequel might get made. Keanu Reeves acting was perfect as this movie fit the way he acts to a tee.
The movie was dark and so I am not sure if NBC is the right way to go for this. I think Netflix or one of the premium channels should have done this.
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Sounds like a theory, Detective. Good luck.
Constantine remains one of my favorite movies, Lucifer was played brilliantly as was Gabriel. I too have very serious doubts about NBC being able to keep it dark, or being even remotely capable of matching those performances.
Well, what else would you call it? You wouldn't want them to classify it as action, and it probably doesn't qualify for mystery, let alone space opera or comedy or romance, and procedural is a dirty word most of the time, so drama is about the best term I can think of for it in TV terms. I'd imagine 3 of the best shows to appear on TV recently, True Detective, Luther, and Sherlock are frequently called dramas too. What were you hoping for?
From Constantine? I wouldn't object to action-drama or some combination. I love Sherlock, but Sherlock is not Constantine. I expect Constantine to be more badass and less intellectual. It is depressing to see it just referred to as a generic drama because of all the fucking awful directions that could take it.
Drama, action, mystery... Here the most important word is "NBC" which, tv shows wise, translates into "Neutered writing and Boring production meet Crappy actors".
i like Constantine (movie).this series...i don't know.....i think will suck and will only have 1 season and then it's cancelled
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Lucy Griffiths & Harold Perrineau Join NBC Pilot ‘Constantine’
True Blood alumna Lucy Griffiths has been cast as the female lead opposite Matt Ryan in NBC’s drama pilot Constantine, from Warner Bros TV. Also cast in the project, based on the characters in DC Comics’ John Constantine stories are Lost alum Harold Perrineau and Charles Halford (True Detective).
David S. Goyer Talks 'Constantine' TV Pilot
the good, if it goes to series will have "Quite a few other characters from the comic books and possibly from the DC universe"
the bad, on smoking "That's a tricky one on network TV. We're negotiating right now."
He sure as hell looks like John Constantine. I'm of two minds on the smoking, it has largely been an integral prop for Constantine for years, but it IS only a prop and could be replaced. That having been said "Dangerous Habits" is one of the best Constantine stories and is very much linked to his smoking addiction.
Is this based on the same thing as Keanu's movie? I liked the idea of it a lot.
Nope. It's based on another guy named Constantine who chain-smokes while fighting demons, and wears a tie.
Well this is promising... this is for NBC? I wouldn't have thought they had it in them
They afraid we will share the trailer and spread information about the show?
I don't understand Hollywood executives relationship with copyright laws. They seem to cause more harm to themselves with it than good.
cool, sorta sucks that it will be on Fridays at 10pm
it did get a full season order, so should at least get that
The people complaining on Twitter about Constantine being blond and not Keanu need to be smacked
I am cautiously optimistic as well. I can't but not watch Constantine whenever it airs on TV.
It looks good but it's on Network TV so it's going to suck.
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I don't know. NBC also has Hannibal which is quite great. And it's on Friday too.
Glad it will be more like Hellblazer was. Downloaded over two hundred issues from the first on up to the early 2000's, and it blew me away how much better than the Keanu version/how much they changed.
Looks pretty good.
Did they comment on why they went with "Constantine", and not "Helblazer"?
The movie is not that popular. Particularly if they want to stay more closer to the comic.
The premiere is set for 10pm EST on Friday, October 24.
First episode leaked.
Good for a pilot. Managed to do all the introductions and exposition while keeping everything fast-paced with lots of action. I even got freaky-chills once or twice. If they keep it up I'm in.
I enjoyed this enough to keep watching. Wasn't as good as the movie, but I didn't expect it to be. Sidekicks were ok, girl is cute, and Constantine is enough of an asshole without going too overboard. And the effects aren't bad, all things considered.
Leaked copy I watched was pretty grainy/fuzzy though, not sure if the source was that way or what. Was definitely watchable but things like a business card were pretty hard to read (not that you had to since they read it aloud anyway). Nowhere near as good as the Flash leaked pilot as far as quality, although like Flash it appeared to be a finished product.
Finished the leaked pilot a few minutes ago and thought it was pretty good. Now I'm no expert on John and have only read a handful of his stories and liked the Keanu version, so I may be easy to please.
I did like the Easter eggs but couldn't tell what half of the were other than Fate's helmet.
I don't know what the helmet signifies, so fill me in if you don't mind, please? Unless it is literally just from the DC character, what was it, Dr. Fate or something? Seems I remember that helmet playing a roll in an episode or two of Smallville. Is that the same one?
Aye, the helmet is the device by which Nabu, lord of Light takes over a body. Think it's a symbiotic releationship by which Nabu imbues the wearer with pretty much god level magic. The helmet has a magic tower to, which I think in the comics was set in Salem.
His accent is all over the place. Presumably they will nail that shit down for the full series.
Well they already fired the girl who played 'Liv'. Guess it just wasn't working out and instead of recasting they will move the story in a different direction
Thats cuz so many people saw the pilot last summer... although it will be worth watching again simply because they had to re-cut it to write out Liv by the end.
That blows, she was nice to look at. If she's a cunt to work with though, better off I suppose.
They cut her because the pilot had a lot of her being hand held the entire time and they didn't want that be to the main focus of her being the "Fish out fo water"
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I saw the pilot at Comic Con this summer. Can't say I was overly impressed - it seemed really rushed and horribly overacted in places. I'm willing to give it a few episodes to see if it finds its footing though, I think they did a pretty good job capturing the spirit of Constantine.
Why fri night? Isnt that where the shitty shows get sent just before dying? Who the fuck watches tv fri? They are all too busy getting drunk.
Yeah I thought a Friday timeslot was strange as well.
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I think that the only show that really made it was X-Files and they don't even mention it in the wiki.
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Better off on Fridays. Ratings expectations aren't nearly as high.
Wasn't Hannibal on Friday nights as well?
Just watched it, thought it was pretty descent. Never read the comics, so not sure how it stacks up. Will continue to watch.
It was pretty obvious that they wrote her off, especially since the whole episode was building her up. In a way that was kind of refreshing. Here is this main character! Nope.
Also , the concept of the "Friday night death slot" has been watered down a lot with the advent of DVRs. My wife and I are never watching TV on Friday nights, but still have Grimm (and now this) recording to be watched at some point next week probably. Nielsen is even taking it into consideration I think with that "day of showing + 3 days" metric to accommodate for time shifters.
nieslen does live live+3 and live+7 for ratings.
most of the networks are relying on the live+3 and a few have switched to live+7 for some shows.the problem with the ratings now is so many streamers and the fact that the Demo metric is antiquated in my opinion.
the Demo is oh so important.. yet some shows score poorly in demo, yet have
`10 million viewers, while other shows score well in the demo, yet have under 6 million viewers overall, just more "demo" viewers (19-49)....
personally i think the more viewers the better, but i am not an industry guy..
watched part of the original pilot, was ok,
This show feels like it's really been dumbed down and would be a better fit on cable or on Showtime/Starz.
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I always give Pilots some leverage, there was enough in this one to get me interested in watching another few episodes.
Not great but good enough.
Grimm got a 1.5 and this got a1.4. So fairly promising start ratings wise. Thought the pilot was good
Demo stuff.... If a show scores poorly on the demo, yet has high viewership(show skews older(49+), advertisers just advertise the products for said older audience.
Take castle 10 pm Mondays(pretty much only show i watch live). Average age viewer is like 56. Scores about 1.7-2.1 in the demo, almost all the ads are for people 50+.... It gets ~9-10 million viewers live ~14.7 million live+7. Provided the rating hold there with thecaudience, it will get renewed(provided Nathan and stana get new contracts) forever, however demo is just a bit lower, yet it is most likely being cancelled... It has half the audience... There are other show with higher demo, lower audience..
Now back to constitine, finished the pilot, was good, now who is the artist.... The new female costar?
I wasn't aware that they changed female leads, which had the unfortunate effect of making so much of the first episode feel pointless. They spent so much time building her up to be someone extremely important to the storyline only to have her take off within the last couple minutes of the episode. I'm not really sure how they could've gotten around that without reshooting the pilot (which isn't unheard of), but it would've been nice if they kept her around for at least a couple episode to finish her arc (or kill her - in fact, that would've been a good twist) rather than building her up only to throw all of that out with no payoff.
I agree that his accent was all over the damn place. And a new case study in "You don't realize which came first, do you?" when someone mentioned to me that they sure are trying to "make this guy look like Cas from Supernatural."
Didn't think it was that bad, interesting how they managed to "handle" the Liv situation. I did like that they aren't shying away from the fact that in many ways Constantine is a horror story.
I dug it. But then again, I love the world that the comic is set in and am a sucker for all things Constantine. I feel like this pilot was as good if not better than Arrow's pilot.
As a guy who reads the comics I was pretty excited for this and it didn't let me down. I thought it was just cheesy enough to be Constantine without going over the top.
I just watched both episodes yesterday, and while I plan to keep watching, I don't know that I really 'liked' them either.
It's weird, on paper, I like the elements of the show and couldn't tell you what they did badly. But, the overall feel came across as clunky or awkward. So, for some reason, I don't really love the show, but yet I want to keep watching it. I guess I'm hoping that it's just growing pains for the show and I'll start getting into it more later.
You sum up my feelings. It's rough around the edges, but not so rough that I don't hold out any hope of it improving. And I think a lot of that roughness comes from the fact that they had two episodes in a row that revolved around introducing Constantine's sidekick. It was sort of like having two pilots. That said, I do think they made the right choice in replacing Liv. I like Constantine and Zed's chemistry much better than his and Liv's.
The only thing I'm not really wild about at this point is that the map Liv bled all over seems to indicate that this show is going to be monster-of-the-week for quite a while, though perhaps introducing Papa Midnite this week will provide more of an arc.
The writing on this show is not up to par. It needs to be more interesting than monster of the week to get people engaged.
It's hard to base it off the first 2 episodes as it's basically the pilot and then another of the same episode cuz they switched female leads. It seems like the only thing carrying over from the pilot with the first girl is the map.
They did actually change the pilot episode also, on the fly this was before comic-con so attendees got a rough cut of the different ending.. They are making a lot of changes like the girl who played Liv not working out, so to the curb she goes and introduce Zed... (I'm actually amazed they got it re-wrote/re-shot that fast)
Next week things will probably pickup a lot with the introduction of Papa Midnight(one of my Favorites from Hellblazer)
I'm very intrigued by the subject matter. I liked the movie for the premise and background alone. Papa midnight, and the world that is suggested by his part in the movie, were really cool to me. I've never read much of the comic, a couple issues here and there, but it always seemed very cool. Someone made a comment about an 'Occult Dr. Who' and that nailed why I'm interested in it, except obviously more dark and less funny/campy then Dr. Who.
So, I really want this to be amazing, and even if it's just 'ok' I should still enjoy for the premise alone. But, they really need to get some over-arching storyline and peeks behind the curtain into the deeper world going. As has been said, Monster of the week only works for so long.
Yea, but they have hinted at a bigger storyline with the angel. It was just very 'meh..' when they did. I realize it probably has to start slow, but you can show things that we don't understand yet and explain them later for a bigger effect. Look at a show like Lost, that had an amazing first episode and instantly gripped you. Hell, forget lost, just think of any of the best shows of all time, most of them hooked their audience very quickly.
Again, I'm not saying it can't get better or that it was even that bad. I just hope it DOES get better and does the source material justice.
Thought the 2nd episode was weaker than the first, but it's still early and I am hopeful. Can't say I am a big fan of the new girl yet, but maybe she will grow on me. Why did they get rid of the original chic again, did she jump ship to a different project or something?
It's not uncommon for actors to be replaced after a pilot. Jenna (30 Rock), Daenerys (GoT), Sam Malone (Cheers), and Willow (Buffy) were all played by different actors in their pilots. The difference here is that rather than just switching out the actor, the writers of Constantine decided to incorporate that into the story since they wanted to go in a different direction anyways.
If you're complaining that it's going to be too "monster-of-the-week," have you ever seen a network show before? That's basically how they all work: with 20 - 22 episodes to fill, they'll do every 3rd or 4th as a major story episode and fill in the rest with random, one-shot shit. Supernatural, Gotham, The Flash, Arrow are all in the same format. If you don't like monster-of-the-week programming you're in for a rough ride with this show.
Personally, knowing nothing about the comic book and only vaguely remembering the movie, I think this is a great show and it's right at the top of my list to watch weekly. I think it reminds me a lot of early Supernatural, which is a very good thing. I also imagine my ignorance of the comics helps my enjoyment, because I can't be annoyed at omissions/changes.
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Riff Regan was supposed to play Willow btw. Tamizim Merchant played Daenerys and Jennifer Ehle played Catelyn Stark in the pilot that never aired for GoT. Brook Ker was Tara in the original True Blood pilot.
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