Like what qualifies as the best series tho?
2004 is a long way to go back..
Even in there own company I feel that The Last of Us was superior to Uncharted.
I had never played a PS 3 before so decided to borrow one from my sister along with all 3 Uncharted games. I didn't think I'd enjoy them that much, but these damn things are so engrossing. It took me a while to warm up to the first one, but I think I played the second installment all the way through without setting down the controller. The third one has the best setting in my opinion and is a welcome departure from the jungle.
Do you think it's the best series of the last ten years?
Like what qualifies as the best series tho?
2004 is a long way to go back..
Even in there own company I feel that The Last of Us was superior to Uncharted.
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As a "series" I can't really think of any new IP in the last decade that has better quality than it. Each game is good, and each game set the standard of graphics. Uncharted 1 was heads and shoulders above anything on the 360 at the time that was released in terms of graphics.
Individually they are not the best games on the PS3 (but not far from it I think), but as a series I can't think of anything that beats them on consoles. I might be a bit biased though as I love the older adventure movies of the late 80s, early 90s, and each Uncharted game plays like one of those.
Would suggest giving Last of Us a go too if you have a PS3 ready now and haven't played it yet. EDIT: If you play it on hard + the story DLC that is out now, it should last you roughly the combined time of all the Uncharted games (which clock in at around 8 hours each). Last of Us took me around 22 hours to complete on hard. And the story in it is a fairly large step above Uncharted, as that is light joking entertainment, while Last of Us has a much more mature setting.
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No, Mass Effect is.
(if you cut out the last 5 minutes)
(never played uncharted)
I loved Uncharted 2. Never played the first. I bought 3 with high anticipation, but for some reason couldn't get into it.
You should definitely play The Last Of Us. But, for me, I enjoyed Uncharted 2 more.
For a 10 year cycle you have what 2 maybe 3 games?
And if you have MORE then 2 games in a series in a 10 year period, you probably have some bullshit like Call of Duty iteration.
Uncharted is 3 main games. 2007 for the first.
I don't know. What are the contenders? Does it have to be NEW to the last decade?
Saints row. Borderlands. The Elder scrolls. Call of Duty. Battlefield. Mario. Bioshock. Mass Effect. GTA.
Uncharted 2 is when they really brought everything together, and paved the way for what we got with the Last of Us.
As far as best series, Yeah I don't know..
Are we talking gameplay? because there is a ton of grounbreaking shit from 2004-2014. Bungees Halo series alone will go down as one of the best trilogy's ever,
If it's story there are a shitload of RPGs, and action series on both the PC ,and consoles.
EDIT:Not in my opinion. I don't play FPS (especially console) online, and while I understand that Halo set a new standard, and perhaps even created a whole focus on the online genre, and it should get credit for that, the game itself. No. Halo 1, cool new story. Halo 2, lots of ... the same. Halo 3... That was just... Sound was de-synced several places, nearly impossible to listen to the story as you had to progress to checkpoints with dialogue that was then impossible to listen to. Several areas that appeared copy pasted from previous games and graphics that were hardly a step up at all. Halo is in my opinion one of the most overrated series I can think of. But that is probably due to me playing it wrong, as a single player game and not touching the multiplayer. I just wanted the story, and when I saw that they completely gave up on that focus, I gave up on the series. Not played anything since 3, not even sure if there are more. It is completely off my radar now of series I have interest in.Originally Posted by Column
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Contenders in the last decade? Assassin's Creed, but as you pointed out there are way more than 2 - 3 games and quite a few misses. But it would be a contender.
Mass Effect 2 is damn near perfect, but 1 and 3 have some serious flaws that I think keep the series from being in the discussion.
Another good one is The Arkham series which so far is only two games because the prequel is handled by another studio, but all the sequels are handled by Rocksteady.
I also loved both of the Darksider games, but there is so much I'm probly not remembering all the way back to 2004...
How about WOW? it also came out in 2004, and technically had 4 sequels.
Yeah I was going to mention Darksiders too because I really love both games, but then I got depressed thinking about all the drama and how we won't see the rest.
Not in my opinion. I don't play FPS (especially console) online, and while I understand that Halo set a new standard, and perhaps even created a whole focus on the online genre, and it should get credit for that, the game itself. No. Halo 1, cool new story. Halo 2, lots of ... the same. Halo 3... That was just... Sound was de-synced several places, nearly impossible to listen to the story as you had to progress to checkpoints with dialogue that was then impossible to listen to. Several areas that appeared copy pasted from previous games and graphics that were hardly a step up at all. Halo is in my opinion one of the most overrated series I can think of. But that is probably due to me playing it wrong, as a single player game and not touching the multiplayer. I just wanted the story, and when I saw that they completely gave up on that focus, I gave up on the series. Not played anything since 3, not even sure if there are more. It is completely off my radar now of series I have interest in.
Bungees, Halo series is considered one of the top competitive FP's of all time.
Halo 2 was leaps over halo 1 which had no online, and Halo 3 was leaps over Halo 2 in graphics while still making the multiplayer different enough that it could be played on pro level.
I'm not sure where you are getting overrated from..
To be honest, I am really enjoying Wolf Among Us. Yeah, it's fucking episodic (god dammit), but, the writing and art is just spectacular. I also loved "Last of Us" as well as Tomb Raider (reboot).
Yeah, but that is where you have to be specific when you say makes the best series. What is the criteria?Halo gameplay has always been great, but the story felt like more of the same after Halo 2.
If it's best story, there allot of games from that time period that were better then uncharted.
Shame on Column for bringing Halo into a discussion about good games.
Metroid prime trilogy is 2002-2007.
If that counts. that is my answer.
Better Series from the last decade:
Mass Effect(already mentioned)
Elder Scrolls(Morrowind,Oblivion,Skyrim) edit-I guess Morrowind misses the 10-year window, it was 02. The other 2 still count though, and are great
Grand Theft Auto(III and Vice City slightly miss the window, but you can count San Andreas, IV, V)
Dark souls is another good one just for game play, Since the original team isn't doing it anymore we have to base it on those two games,
not even getting into stuff like Professor Layton, or Ace Attorney.
A good number of handheld series probably are solid contenders as well.
Adding some contenders here:
Gears of Wars
God of War
Prince of Persia (Ubi's 1st reboot started in 2003)
I still think Uncharted wins even if I have a particular affection for the Yakuza games.
I havent enjoyed another series as much as i did MassEffect - sure the ending was meh but as far as everything else goes it was nothing short of phenomenal. I'm not going to let the ending take away from the ride itself.
Me and my brother bought a launch PS3 and I moved out so I had no access to it. I borrowed it when he got Uncharted 2 and my wife saw me playing it. She kept watching like the entire time I played, which she never did, so I asked her if she wanted to play. At first she said no, but then gave in. Prior to this she didn't really play games - maybe Zelda for SNES and some N64/gamecube, but nothing current gen. Wasn't a huge gamer.
I went to work and didn't see her for a couple days, but when I came back she had beaten the game. She then went out and bought part 1 and beat it. I knew she was hooked. She bought me a PS3 that valentines day and I Always wondered if it was secretly for her.
Now she camps out waiting for the games to come out. We have a PS4 ready for part 4. She almost bought a VIta for that version. To her it is the best series of all time. I like the series a lot too, but not that much.
We also have a framed uncharted 3 poster in our house. She likes it that much.
Also when I saw this thread title I instantly thought "I bet supertouch made this thread", glad I wasn't disappointed.
it'd be a toss up between Assassins Creed (2 & 4 are just... beyond amazing) or Mass Effect, head and shoulders above the competition. I wish I could vote for Uncharted but I have only played the vita version and its pretty meh, hopefully with Playstation Now I'll be able to see more of Uncharted and TLOU on a PS4.
Assassin's Creed is one series I have not played at all. Are the game's stories link or can I just jump into any of them?
If the criteria for 'best series' is something like minimum of 3 games and no really glaring flaws in any of them then I'd have to say yes to Uncharted being the best of the last decade, but only by a very slim margin over Final Fantasy (XII, XIII-series).
Everything else I can think of doesn't have enough games yet (Witcher, Portal) or had one or more games that sucked even if the rest were excellent (AC, Mass Effect, Saints Row, etc.).
Mass Effect for me, every game was awesome.
wait for a sale, i recently picked up AC1-AC3 (every game) for around $30 on ubisoft christmas sale
I need the set to go back on sale on Steam or Ubi, can't link the pirated copies to my AC Initiates profile, hah
Finally a topic I can get behind. I completely agree. Uncharted 2 is maybe one of the best games I've ever played. I remember beating it and just putting the controller down in awe. Then I went into the shared FOH channel on BDF in WoW while we were doing that Bait n Switch shit and said as much and most people were all hurr cover shooter. (without having actually played any of them)
It's no shock that people like the Tomb Raider reboot that plays almost exactly like an Uncharted game. AC is a great series but suffers from being too unfocused, having too many really lame mini games, too many bugs, and just too many installments.
I think there is a Halflife 3 joke in this thread somewhere.
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I would have to say the best franchise would go to Mass Effect, even though the ending to 3 was horrible. The original story line, really good gameplay tweaks, etc. I pick that over the following for specific reasons:
Uncharted 1 and 3 were mediocre compared to 2, and while they are great games, I am more partial to Sci Fi.
Bioshock 1 and Infinite were fantastic. If two had been shit canned and the second was infinite, Bioshock would win. Bioshock 2 was horrible.
The last of us only has one game thus fat, otherwise I would be naming this right up there next to Mass Effect.
Some notables for originality/gameplay mechanic changes
1) Dead Space
2) Alan Wake (They should make more - with less copy paste outdoor areas)
3) Batman Arkham games
4) Far Cry
Some up and comers we should watch, aside from The Last of us:
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Almost definitely Destiny. Borderlands was close to doing it - getting the Halo people behind it and creating a semi-online aspect really should push it over. (or The Division should Destiny falter since it's got the same)
Frankly, Destiny/Division sound similar to what I remember the original concepts for Rage being pitched were aiming at, so clearly the kind of future Carmack saw back then, before he had to scale it back.
Destiny and Division look really interesting for the new breed. Titanfall is a joke comparatively.
I really enjoyed Uncharted. I would have to rank it above most things but below:
I'm not a big Gears fan. I enjoyed them at first but the later games didn't do much for me. Same with Halo. People rant and rave about it but the combat is very simple and meh. Loved the first one but the series never improves enough for me.
Borderlands 1 and 2
Dragon Age 1
Never Winter 2
Hrm, best series of the past 10 years? I think "best series of the last generation" would be a more appropriate distinction.
Uncharted is definitely up there. If you included TLOU as part of that it'd far and away be #1 no question.
Mass Effect is amazing, but 3 had so many flaws that it really brought the series down for me (anyone who says that only the ending was bad is full of it).
I think though that I'd have to give it to Assassin's Creed for the Ezio Trilogy + AC4. The Ezio Trilogy is just an amazing saga that follows one hell of a guy's life. Following his start as a brash kid to his final days as a master assassin was one of the best journeys that I've ever had in a video game. Plus, Pirate's Creed was amazing it own right.
I gotta throw my hat in with the Mass Effect lot. It was the first set of games since PS1 that had me invest 100's of hours completing and I enjoyed just about every minute of it.
Runner up for me would be AC. If not for how much I loathed 3, the gap between would be far narrower but I have yet to play 4 so the bitter taste of 3 still lingers.
Uncharted is a very close third.
I haven't played The Last of Us yet so maybe this is a stupid or spoilery question but... Why is it being brought up in conversation about the best series? Isn't it just one game? Also not intended to be a douchey question, just curious if I'm missing something.
valve announces orange box 3 (skipping 2) at E3 - left for dead 3, portal 3, Team Fortress 3, and Half Life 3. Free with SteamBox, which Nintendo has signed up to develop exclusively for. world explodes.
Call of duty. Easily.
I absolutely loved Uncharted 1 and 2, I recommend everyone plays through it. 3 was good, and had awesome graphics and locales / artwork, but about halfway through I got horribly sick of the combat. I wanted more explore/solve and less infinite spawning, cheap fighting NPCs. It got old killing 300 bad guys, exploring for a few seconds, then repeat.
Really what it comes down to for me is Naughty Dog. In my mind they are pretty much the best in the business right now. The Uncharted series is a work of art. The Last of Us was outstanding. They are my current favorite developer and if they continue to design games at this level they will probably be my favorite of all time. Nothing on the PS4 excites me more than Uncharted 4 and The Last of Us 2 right now.
If you haven't played Uncharted 1-3, and The Last of Us you are seriously missing out.
God of War. I bought a damn PS3 just to play the third one because of how much I liked the gameplay and story in the first two. It was totally worth it for the kill scenes of all the gods that had been toying with you through the first 2 games.
Draegan's bitch ass sold us out to MMORPG.com
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oh, if Metroid prime doesn't count.
Then Monster girl quest.
I just realized Naughty Dog developed the Crash Bandicoon series. I only played the first one but it was one of my favorite PS games.
(next Levine game, a real System Shock 3?)
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Is it only for PS3?
Else, if PC games are in, do EU and HOI count?
I get that DX2 was awful, but why all the hate for DX:HR?
Well, Deus Ex was released in 2000 so I think Zaphid was referring to HR.
Reasons for HR hate:
Boss fights being completely out of place, and because they were farmed out to some random company they weren't even good to begin with.
DLC had far better design than the main game.
Director's Cut version gives you boss fights beatable with subterfuge instead of brute force (but you do still have to kill them, the game throws you into a cutscene when you're stealthed, etc.), removes the piss-yellow filter, and the DLC is part of the game instead of being a standalone that you have to play separately, but they made it from an unpatched codebase. A whole slew of bugs that were fixed in patches of the original game magically got un-fixed in the DC, which can make the game unplayable. They patched it once, but it's still a mess, and the second patch was promised so long ago that it seems likely that they've just washed their hands of the whole thing.
I really liked the plot and characters in DX:HR so I overlooked a lot of the gameplay problems. The first game had a fuckton of gameplay problems too, all overlooked by just being so ambitious for its day.
For me it was Assassin's Creed. Nothing else had gameplay that was as fun. It has been yearly iterations done right, unlike CoD.
an understated ensemble that puts the "b" in subtle
Other than AC3. That game was a blight on the AC franchise. The only game of the whole series that not only did I not finish it, I completely stopped playing it after maybe 6-8 hours. It just wasn't fun at all.
I loved Assassin's Creed 3 and have no clue why so many hated it. The protagonist and setting were a breath of fresh air and it also introduced naval warfare.
Anyway, all three Uncharted games provide movie quality storytelling and fun Prince of Persia-like platforming. The sequels didn't deviate from the formula so the epic nature was preserved.
Assuming we put the limit at minimum 3 games, and Dark Souls 2 doesn't suck, the Souls series blows the competition out of the water.
- The series has grown huge solely on the back of its excellent and unique design, not due to a massive budget or marketing campaign. Demon's Souls was released as a PS3 exclusive without a planned NA/EU release, but caused such a massive buzz online and so many people imported the game that it was re-released in NA/EU due to popular demand, leading to a large cross-platform release of the sequel
- Singlehandedly bringing back uncompromising gameplay to the AAA scene
- Revolutionary online functionality, which still allows you to play offline without crippling the game
- Extreme replayability and near infinite difficulty scaling (through self-imposed challenges, made possible by an extremely high skill ceiling)
- The first two games are both very good, the third is getting almost universal praise in pre-release press (We all know how reliable that is, though)
Uncharted and Mass Effect are great, but both are mostly well executed evolutions of existing AAA games. Assassin's Creed was unique and innovative, but let's be honest - the first game was pretty boring past the first couple of hours, and there have been a few duds since. I'd say only AC2 and AC4 qualify as "great games".
Assuming DS2 is good, I'd rank them:
Souls > Mass Effect > Uncharted > AC
Portal would be a contender for the top spot if there were 3 games.
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