I couldnt care less for this film but the fact that Dr. Doom is apparently a Woman and Johnny Storm is black I thought there should be a thread. Hopefully Peter Dinklage is a clipple that plays the Thing and Invisible woman is chinese.
Last edited by Homsar; 02-06-2014 at 02:49 AM.
Apparently rumor is the studio wants to cast a female Doom and a black man for Human Torch. Shrug, I'm all for trying new things and diversifying but let's not fuck up these characters for the sake of being different and appearing to be "up with the times". Jimmies semi rustled.
So what's Galactus then, a full Japanese Keanu Reeves in a purple costume going "nom nom"? Is his herald The Metallic Snowboarder?
Confirmed. Richard Ayoade has been cast as the human torch.
Jordan is a good actor but I would never change the IP of characters. Elba is awesome but watching Thor and him portraying the whitest of all all asgardians is just hilarious.
Fem doom is mostly fine.
The main issue is it hilariously changes a couple dynamics. Victors extreme vanity. progressive when its a man. But as a women.. not so much.
Then the Doom/Richards rivalry. Making Doom a WOMEN obsessed with beating a man who is smarter then her, Reed.. again.
if your plan was to encourage diversity, etc. congrats on making a female character that is a giant stereotype.
A war is coming, I've seen it in my dreams. Fires sweeping over the Earth, bodies in the streets, cities turned to dust... retaliation.
Hollywood is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until everything you love is dead.
I don't think I've ever wanted a movie to fail this hard.
Fuck you, diversity, right in your multi-colored transexual ass.
Making one of them black is forgivable, though ill advised. But Mrs. Dr. Doom? WTF?
If I remember correctly, Doom was a woman in the original comic.
"Woman have the right to understand that they are not to be treated as though they are not understood by those who have great understanding of things like these" -Hillary Clinton
Doom... a woman? No offense to Storm being black but come on. That just doesn't translate... why is it so much to ask to expect on the screen what is similarly in the comic. Who knows.. there's probably some "extreme" "ultimate" "amazing" whatever..... version they are pulling this from.
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No, offense to Human Torch being black.
I think you missed the comma.
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i've said it b4, you can't have a black man playing a character with fire abilities, b/c everyone is gonna think "did he burn himself? did his powers go out of whack?" "oh nope, he's not char, he's black"
for a fire char, there's 2 ways to signify damage, they either get all melty, melty or they're burned to a crisp... black.
if they wanted to "black" someone up, they should have blacked up ben grimm, he's admittedly the worst of the 4, no one cares for him and once he becomes "the thing" skin color isn't even an issue! but he'll have had the origin of being a black guy.
is it so hard to see reed richards having a black guy for a best friend?
there's no way reed richards could have been black, they wouldn't want to deal with the whole inter-racial marriage thing.
hell even black panther married storm, somehow the only black king of the world decided to marry like 1 of 3 black women super heroes, and then he annulled the marriage, just cuz he could cuz he's king, like every black man's dream.
(i guess the only inter-racial marriage is luke cage and jessica, whatever the fuck she is, but that's a different marvel property)
So they are gonna sit around with a bunch of white people and the black guy is gonna get lit on fire?
Well the other natural fit for the black guy would be Thing and that really wouldn't sit well making him the most inhuman one who never really appears as a human.
At least have Black Reed as the smartest man on the planet and Ben can call him Stretch.
Fat black Islamic gay transgender Ms. Doom, so that when the FF beat her, they repress every possible demographic.
please dear lord no more islams or arabs in comic books, first it was saed from lost, and in a twist of irony they make him die like a suicide bomber saving ppl, then there's dust a mutant girl who wears that damn blanket and her mutant power is powerful sand... come on! the new green lantern is an arab, and i'm pretty sure he either tried to car bomb or made one, and now somehow ms marvel is now arab. at least give me some "decent" asian superheros no more of that "super kung fu" shit, what about a green lantern asian, or better yet, a yellow lantern, at least that'd be comical.
You're pretty wrong about the new Green Lantern. He stole a car - that happened to be - a bomb. At least get your racist tirades right.
Stealing a car bomb is much less offensive.
And we really don't need more asian superheroes. I can't take them seriously as tough guys. Like when they have girls kicking ass in movies, all I can think about is how unrealistic it is
Director said the rumors were all bs btw. Except for the black guy.
Black Reed with his white wife and her white brother makes more sense then a black human torch with his white sister.
A female Dr Doom would set women back 30 years if the movie was a hit. She would end up being motivated by hate for Invisible Women because she wanted Reed and lost out to Sue for him.
Thing is the character most open for a gender change. Start with a super hot female then morph them in full male looking thing version. Make the loss of beauty and the gain of immense physical power central to things character.
There is a reason that Hollywood constantly reuses the generic evil corporation led by white males over and over again as the standard villain in movies.
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I thought the already cast a black chick as Sue Storm.
You know, a female Thing would work really well. I never felt sympathy for Ben Grimm because I've seen some ugly motherfuckers pull some really hot trim. A hot woman that turns into a giant rock creature? Yeah that would be a bigger psychological blow.
Could SheThing survive a shot of super cum from Superman?
The world survives every time he gets explosive diarrhea from that ill advised lunch choice. So no reason to assume not.
invalid. Superman has Superbowels capable of handling any spices earth could create with ease.
A three page thread of speculation without a single link to confirm anything?
I would like to take this opportunity to applaud the jump form cum to shit in one post.
cant wait to see a black human torch, the joke possibilities are limitless. marvel will never get this franchise right.
Marvel would make an amazing FF movie. Fox on the other hand...
It's Astr0, what did you expect, an intelligent post?
‘Fantastic Four’ Cast Revealed
Miles Teller, Kate Mara and Jamie Bell will join Michael B. Jordan in the latest installment in the comicbook franchise.
Mara recently closed a deal to play play Sue Storm/The Invisible Woman. While no offer is out yet, Bell is expected to be tapped to play Ben Grimm/The Thing. Teller has an offer to play Reid Richards/Mr. Fantastic, but deal points are a little further away from being completed.
Do you guys ever think every time DC/Warner Bros and Fox makes an announcement on one of their movies the Marvel Execs are high fiving each other and calling in high priced hookers with bags of blow?
I assume that's just a regular day for a Marvel Exec.
How are they going to do the brother/sister..
At no time should any recollection of Fantastic Four 2 or X-Men Last Stand make you think "Marvel movie!"
I do find it amusing that of my geeky friends the guy who is really REALLY upset about Johnny Storm being black is a black dude. Turns out he doesn't like being pandered to...
Black dude makes total sense... c'mon we all know all that torching will turn a white marshmellow all black and crispy on the outside.
Name all the black super heroes that aren't Samuel L Jackson or have some relation to vampires.
Notice how they wanted to be diverse by making Johnny black, but not so diverse so that both Storms are black and they end up with an interracial marriage!
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Not to go too far off topic but isn't blank panther essentially Marvels Batman?
Someone linked that either in another thread here or back over on fires. I honestly can't think of a dumber thing I've ever seen from a comic book thing. Even Superman pulling planets on a chain pales in comparison to Black Panther getting Silver Surfer in an unbreakable armlock.
Luke Cage is not only black, but a pretty awesome character all around. Not a lot of non-white non-penis bearing characters can say that.
Didn't Human Torch die recently? Black guys die.
Take a look at their pictures and then remind yourself that these are supposed to be 4 astronauts.
i don't think they're gonna go with the astronaut theme here. they'll probably make reed and sue doing something smart in the desert and ben and jonny drive up to bother them, cuz that's what they do and bamm, accident cuz of dr doom.
I dont know. its Fox.
They will probably do something stupid. Like have Reed boning his underage girlfriend/student. Have Ben walk in on him and her, while they discuss breaking onto the rocket base. Have Sue call Ben a coward and a commie for not piloting the rocketship. and Sues even younger brother just there for. why not take the 15yr old brother, of the underage girl you are dating into space on an illegal experimental test flight.
You had me at "boning his underage girlfriend/student"!
More like 15 year old super genius Reed in college with 25 year old Ben starting collage just out of air force. Reed hooks up with 15 year old high school girl Sue with her little brother Johnny always hanging about. Then flash forward a few years to Reed and Ben graduating College and Sue high school. Then flash forward another year to Reed and Sue getting married and Johnny graduating high school. Reed is a professor, Sue is a student, Johnny is about to start college, Ben is out flying planes somewhere but coming back to visit.
Ok background story is set now start the movie.
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has Ben Grimm's backstory been changed? web is saying the guy is 5'7" and under 140lbs
Thought Ben Grimm was a young gang member, college football player, then military pilot and normally depicted as a big guy in people form in any art I've seen over the years.
If Gal Gadot can do it, so can this stick-boy.
But she can't.
That's the joke.
Torch should start as a white dude, get his powers and "flame on" for the first time, and char himself, thus becoming black.
yeah haha that sounds great what a great joke you are a funny joke man
Adopted black brother is fine (adopted siblings of different races actually exist in real life - OMG) however overall the casting is completely WTF. I can't believe the Variety picture hasn't been linked on this thread - at least Jessica Alba was hot in the first FF4. Mara not so much.
I typically find Kate Mara hot as fuck, but I will say that picture isn't doing her any favors. Not sure what it is... probably the ridiculous hair.
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