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    X-Men: Apocalypse (2016)


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    Earth to Fox, your movies SUCK

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    how many more times can they ruin this comic book?

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    This is why Marvel movies and Tv shows can never be up to their full potential. Because the term mutant is fully in Fox's control in a world literally designed around Mutants. Even Stan Lee said it when he came up for the idea of mutants "not everyone can be blasted with cosmic rays or build a suit or be a god." So he came up with mutants as a way to fill the world and tell more stories.

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    yet at the same time, mutants pretty much need to be in their own mini universe to stand as equal rights allegories.
    In a world with spiderman, and mutants. It makes no sense at all, no one is calling spiderman a mutant, or Hulk, or anyone else, whose origins are not well known public knowledge.

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    Heh, yeah I guess that's a good take on that. Never really thought of that in those terms.

    I guess we really don't get to hear from the humans too much, so maybe they do call them mutants?


    I think marvel is trying to start there new thing with the whole Inhuman shit. It sucks tho, I wish they weren't dumb enough to sell off all there franchises in the first place.
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    The Civil War storyline lumped mutants into a group with all people with superpowers and forced them to register with the government to ensure "security". That allegory is more pertinent today than the civil rights era mutant storylines.

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    yeah, but thats more of a general superpowers thing. not just mutants. Everyone was subject to that. Even people with tech superpowers like Ironman.


    And yeah, seem to be trying it over again with Inhumans. A bit odd. Mutants civil rights in general have moved to a much more lgbt type allegory for the most part. which works much better in the shared universe.

    but yeah, it was also a bit silly in the shared universe the public would look at Hulk standing next to lets say Cyclops, and go. omg hulk is a hero! and Cyclops. Filthy mutie! People Marvel U apparently have mutant radar.
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    In the house of m storyline, Spidey had to hide the fact that he still had powers and wasn't a mutant because even though it's never really brought up, the public assumes he's a mutant

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    Is that real? Holy fuck lol. Anyway... Can't wait to see the Cross dressing Apocolypse
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    That is how First Blood was drawn though. Do we want John Rambo roaming through the forest of our forums killing the police?

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    Not sure how you could mess up a character that badly that was already perfected in cinema ten years ago.
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    same director which is odd, they should have just went with the same actor and did makeup. They took a character that isnt a big deal and made it possibly the most iconic scene out of all X-Men movies
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    That's really the problem, there's never going to be a better scene for Nightcrawler than that. In the mutant world he's not all that dangerous but against people (which he never has much of a reason to fight) he's pretty amazing. I mean hell, the plot may as well have been an excuse to do that scene, it was worth it.

    Edit: One of the reasons the actor wasn't in the other movies was because of issues he had if I recall. Demanding too much money, being a bastard, something of the sort. Pretty unlikely they would try reaching out to him again a decade later when they get a free pass to use a new one.

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    Nightcrawler is pretty powerful, he can beat a lot of people by just porting them somewhere they can not escape. For instance he could take out the Hulk pretty much instantly.

    He's not limited to earth bound teleporting.

    Also his teleports work by bringing him into a side dimension then back out to whatever location he is aiming at. He is still able to put people indefinitely in that side dimension tho. I believe he took Kitty in there once when they were hiding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suineg View Post
    That is how First Blood was drawn though. Do we want John Rambo roaming through the forest of our forums killing the police?

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    Never heard of Cummings being an ass, I thought Singer left for Superman and the Execs at FOX are just idiots

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    It doesn't have to be the same actor. Nightcrawler wasn't cool because Cummings was a great actor. His talking scenes were more obligatory than anything.

    And yeah, nightcrawler's ability to teleport is great vs other mutants. I'd put him squarely in the middle of the other Xmen in terms of capability. His teleportation is the kind of asymmetrical ability that you can use to make him immensely powerful or simply defeat with quick reflexes. Can Logan's (or any other xmen really) reaction time and sensory abilities detect and react to Nightcrawler's teleportation? Depends on the writer I suppose.

    He was great in XMen 2 because his look and skillset was executed perfectly. Nightcrawler's whole thing is that he's this insidious looking nightmare who is jovial, kind hearted and pious.

    The above pic of the night crawler makes him look like a confused hipster who fell into a vat of blue ink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedor View Post
    did they give him emo hair? wtf

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    If they make his eyes solid yellow It wont be that bad. Right now though, without the demonic eyes, he looks about as fierce as a live action my pet monster.

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    Is this other blue one also going to bang Jennifer Lawence IRL and take pictures of her?

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    I'm getting a strong Andrew Garfield vibe from that picture. I know it's not him, but it looks like him. Which means it looks like jean ralphio by proxy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuco View Post
    It doesn't have to be the same actor. Nightcrawler wasn't cool because Cummings was a great actor. His talking scenes were more obligatory than anything.

    And yeah, nightcrawler's ability to teleport is great vs other mutants. I'd put him squarely in the middle of the other Xmen in terms of capability. His teleportation is the kind of asymmetrical ability that you can use to make him immensely powerful or simply defeat with quick reflexes. Can Logan's (or any other xmen really) reaction time and sensory abilities detect and react to Nightcrawler's teleportation? Depends on the writer I suppose.

    He was great in XMen 2 because his look and skillset was executed perfectly. .
    Or the fact that Jean showed they could easily kill or controll him, he also wasnt a scared mutant that had time to layer his hair
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    Quote Originally Posted by Column View Post


    I think marvel is trying to start there new thing with the whole Inhuman shit. It sucks tho, I wish they weren't dumb enough to sell off all there franchises in the first place.
    I don't think we get the MCU we have today if Marvel doesn't get the influx of cash-flow that selling some of their franchises got them.

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    At the same time, they can't be expected to provide free promotion for other movie studios films.

    They can't even say "mutants" in their movies. It's no wonder they are rebooting the whole thing. Can't keep pretending half the world doesn't exist.

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    Keep in mind that this next X-Men movie is set during the 80's, so Nightcrawler being an emo Flock of Seagulls is in line.

    That being said, they should have just left him out entirely, leave us our X Men 2 memories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimey View Post
    Keep in mind that this next X-Men movie is set during the 80's, so Nightcrawler being an emo Flock of Seagulls is in line.

    That being said, they should have just left him out entirely, leave us our X Men 2 memories.
    except, he should be in a monastery. quicksilver being decked out in the fashion the times, makes sense. Kurt should be a monk, up until he joins the X-men.


    and yeah, Teleporting is pretty OP really. you saw kurt in x2, you saw Azazel in First class, and even Blink in Days of Future past.

    I would have left him out. while a key X-man... yeah. he WAS already done well. No need to bring him back to mess it up.
    If they even try to touch on Mystique being his mom, its going to come out HORRIBLE.

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    They are definitely going 80's as hell on this.

    Now if they can just get Christian Slater to show up.

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    Jubilee is going to sparkle the shit out of the horsemen

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    My balls are vibrating. Jubilee ftw.

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    That's what I get for only having read older X-Men consistently, I remember Nightcrawler being somewhat low-powered in the scheme of things. Teleporting is my super power of choice on the rare occasion that topic comes up so I'm all for more of it if they can make it look decent.

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    Cummings refused to do the character again because of the time spent in make up. He thought it was a colossal pain in the ass and moved on to other things.

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    Jubilee = Dazzler
    New generation. PC thing I saw it as, new way to get racial coverage. Ok with that idea, but her character is just annoying!

    Difference between Mutants vs all other "Powered" non-mutant characters, the comic universe's general public on how they see those 'Powered' characters. While non-mutant comics have Villains, the general populate looks to those to save them. Mutant world the population is one of the villains to the Heros/antiheroes. Its the population that doesnt fit in the marvel universe and not the superhumans. This is soo odd to see when reading between the different comic books. I stopped reading many of them and stayed with one side.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amzin View Post
    That's what I get for only having read older X-Men consistently, I remember Nightcrawler being somewhat low-powered in the scheme of things. Teleporting is my super power of choice on the rare occasion that topic comes up so I'm all for more of it if they can make it look decent.
    he's op.
    He also suffers from ability so OP, he can never actually use it, or it would solve 99% of all problems in 30seconds.
    And there is admittedly the issue of him being such a devout Catholic. so, teleporting his hand into your chest and ripping your heart out is something he rarely does.
    Teleporters tend to get reduced to "magic schoolbus" in practical use. Both, because that is actually one of the reasons a teleporter is totally OP, and because in combat using teleportation would be op. ever play any mmo with blinks, teleports, etc?


    kindof like Kitty Pryde's who's powers in the comics are also kindof powerwanked out of control.


    Jubilee = Dazzler
    New generation. PC thing I saw it as, new way to get racial coverage. Ok with that idea, but her character is just annoying!
    what?
    And did we find the one person that doesn't love Jubilee?

    Jubilee=Second best Robin



    Yes shes a vampire now.


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    Yeah vampire jubilee is the dumbest thing that ever happened to an already questionable character.

    I like Dazzler, I played the shit out of her in the old X-Men arcade game because Nightcrawler was always already taken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusiphur View Post
    Cummings refused to do the character again because of the time spent in make up. He thought it was a colossal pain in the ass and moved on to other things.
    this
    A war is coming, I've seen it in my dreams. Fires sweeping over the Earth, bodies in the streets, cities turned to dust... retaliation.

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    Yeah, it would have been one thing if it was making avengers money, but it didn't. I can't really blame him for stepping it when he did

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gavinmad View Post
    Yeah vampire jubilee is the dumbest thing that ever happened to an already questionable character.

    I like Dazzler, I played the shit out of her in the old X-Men arcade game because Nightcrawler was always already taken.
    Don't forget, somehow out of the bluest of blue thin air, Jubilee all of a sudden has a baby with her. Not just any baby, nope, this random baby also happens to be asian. She has adopted this baby, who turns out to be
    Spoiler: 
    future iron man, and gets to spend time w/ mommy cuz she dead in the future

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    Did you guys not like Days of Future Past?

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    New Nightcrawler looks like a twink. Shocking, Bryan Singer. Just shocking.
    If the porn isn't high res you can't get horny, but you can hate a guy at 1000 paces without a scope. That's human nature.

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    I was wondering where the 'great white shark' piece of Nightcrawler gear in Marvel Heroes came from, now I know. Pretty fucking funny.
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    he can also teleport 'part' of someone. I wonder if he can teleport adamantium apart?
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    It doesn't make sense but I hope Blink is in the movie (Possibly not even born yet if it takes place in the 80's). Age of Apocalypse and that hot pink skin got me through high school, dammit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix Prime View Post
    This is why Marvel movies and Tv shows can never be up to their full potential. Because the term mutant is fully in Fox's control in a world literally designed around Mutants. Even Stan Lee said it when he came up for the idea of mutants "not everyone can be blasted with cosmic rays or build a suit or be a god." So he came up with mutants as a way to fill the world and tell more stories.
    While mutants and mutates (like the characters seen in the MCU) share the same comic book universe, the writers essentially compartmentalize the two. When people think of mutants, they usually think of X-men. MCU has its own brand of "mutant" in the Inhumans who I think are far more interesting anyway.

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    Looks like a movie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Column View Post
    Nightcrawler is pretty powerful, he can beat a lot of people by just porting them somewhere they can not escape. For instance he could take out the Hulk pretty much instantly.
    I don't think he could teleport the Hulk. From memory, and playing him in Marvel Super Heroes RPG many moons ago, he has a limit on the mass he can teleport. He also has a limit on distance.

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    Not sure about his limit on mass, bit his limit on range is basically his vision. If he can see it, he can go there. I don't know how that works if, say, he is in new York, watching a live feed from the moon.

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    I thought it was if he had seen it in the past he could go there..

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    2-3miles. But can chain teleport. Remember a story with him teleporting to a boat off of Genosha or something. or was it he actually ended up teleporting across the Atlantic? by porting over and over again.


    The lines of sight issue is the classic. "So he doesn't teleport into a solid wall and die." he CAN it. but, if he misses, he dies.
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    He's like the flash. He doesn't know his full potential. He was able to teleport cross country at one point.

    He can also do what you said ,and do a series of small teleports to cover long distances.

    When Kitty is with him they don't need line of sight anymore, they can just teleport through everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caliane View Post
    2-3miles. But can chain teleport. Remember a story with him teleporting to a boat off of Genosha or something. or was it he actually ended up teleporting across the Atlantic? by porting over and over again.


    The lines of sight issue is the classic. "So he doesm't teleport into a solid wall and die."
    This was how he escaped from Genosha in Wolverine and the X-men, by chain porting back to the mainland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j00t View Post
    Not sure about his limit on mass, bit his limit on range is basically his vision. If he can see it, he can go there. I don't know how that works if, say, he is in new York, watching a live feed from the moon.
    in X2 he teleports out of the plane to save the one bitch and teleports back in. definitely didn't have a line of sight there.

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    is Jennifer Lawrence going to be in this? i'm assuming yes. if so, it will suck just as bad as the last one.

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    Considering he was originally in the plane as a known location and saw her get sucked out of the plane which had a hole in it that's the least compromising example you could have used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kegkilla View Post
    in X2 he teleports out of the plane to save the one bitch and teleports back in. definitely didn't have a line of sight there.
    He knows he's teleporting out into open air, whereas when Storm talks him into teleporting into the Cerebro chamber, he has only a vague idea of what's inside. But you're right, rescuing Rogue was somewhat inconsistent with his 'i can only teleport where I can see'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malakriss View Post
    Considering he was originally in the plane as a known location and saw her get sucked out of the plane which had a hole in it that's the least compromising example you could have used.
    it's pretty incredulous to think that with out a line of sight he knew exactly where Rogue's body would be, and additionally that he was able to teleport back into the moving plane. unless one of his super powers was enhanced mathematical calculation ability to calculate the trajectory of a moving aircraft, or if he was asian, which he isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kegkilla View Post
    it's pretty incredulous to think that with out a line of sight he knew exactly where Rogue's body would be, and additionally that he was able to teleport back into the moving plane. unless one of his super powers was enhanced mathematical calculation ability to calculate the trajectory of a moving aircraft, or if he was asian, which he isn't.
    it is actually... like Cyclop's does also have enhanced geometry, allowing to him to do the crazy reflecting shots. (Cyc should be able to handle Cap's shield. He is also stupid good at pool..)
    Nightcrawler does have an innate enhanced 3d perception of location/distance/etc, so his teleporting is safer.

    Its totally one of those "required secondary powers" Teleporting would be deadly without it. Particularly since he is blinking into otherspace. he has to have an innate understanding of exactly how far and long he is in the otherspace to be able to come out and be exactly where he wanted to be, without being inside a tree.
    Nightcrawler ought to be very good at golf and judging distances.
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    Nightcrawler - Marvel Wikia

    Nightcrawler typically teleports only to places he has been to before or knows the layout of, or line-of-sight teleportation (even though his actual range is much further). Kurt's intuitive spatial awareness allows him to track his movements instinctively and with greater precision than the average person, helping him to pinpoint locations for a "blind" teleport.
    Also discusses the mass he can teleport. In short, as Column said, the upper limits of his powers are still unknown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzlebeard View Post
    his upper limit for distance was reached once, although, he was dying with a robot arm in the middle of his chest, 400miles Nevada to Utopia



    Also discusses the mass he can teleport. In short, as Column said, the upper limits of his powers are still unknown.
    but then of course, Hope at the time is the most important mutant in the mutant world, she is literally the messiah, which for a duty bound xman like Kurt, he probably used the power of faith to accomplish that jump.

    also i believe the first time he willing bamf'd into an object (said robo arm) or did i remember that wrong?
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    is Jennifer Lawrence going to be in this? i'm assuming yes. if so, it will suck just as bad as the last one.
    Er... you know that The Fappening happened on set for the last one right? It was Beast taking the photos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Er... you know that The Fappening happened on set for the last one right? It was Beast taking the photos.
    I hadn't heard that, lol
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    Like others said, he has super human spatial awareness. Which basically just means that when he teleports, he doesn't teleport 1/2 a centimeter into the ground.

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    It's just a plot device, guys.

    His ability to teleport away connected pieces of matter is probably the most powerful ability and they shouldn't have given him that. At any given moment he's two teleports away from winning a fight, 1 teleport if he has a hold of someone.

    Telepoting on top of the hulk, grabbing the hulk's head and teleporting away with just his head would be ridiculous.
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    He can do that too. He did it in Age of Apocalypse with someones finger. Grabbed his finger and teleported with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tred View Post
    He can do that too. He did it in Age of Apocalypse with someones finger. Grabbed his finger and teleported with it.
    So is it up to him how much of an object he teleports? I've seen the comics you are referring to but it's a bit odd he grabs someone and takes the whole body one moment and then grabs something and decides to take that part only. Nightcrawler has always been one of my favorite comic book characters but I like it when he is portrayed more of a wise, swashbuckler than anything else. He's looking like a dark elf Jonas Brother right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nester View Post
    I thought it was if he had seen it in the past he could go there..
    You're thinking of the movie Jumper in 2008.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muligan View Post
    So is it up to him how much of an object he teleports? I've seen the comics you are referring to but it's a bit odd he grabs someone and takes the whole body one moment and then grabs something and decides to take that part only. Nightcrawler has always been one of my favorite comic book characters but I like it when he is portrayed more of a wise, swashbuckler than anything else. He's looking like a dark elf Jonas Brother right now.
    Good way to describe it, being a very clever/acrobatic fighter was always good but when you think about what he can do by teleporting a vital organ it takes the fun out of any combat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muligan View Post
    So is it up to him how much of an object he teleports? I've seen the comics you are referring to but it's a bit odd he grabs someone and takes the whole body one moment and then grabs something and decides to take that part only. Nightcrawler has always been one of my favorite comic book characters but I like it when he is portrayed more of a wise, swashbuckler than anything else. He's looking like a dark elf Jonas Brother right now.
    Nightcrawler was always one of my favs, super christian, even a priest, and is anti gay, but looks like like the devil.


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    Haha. Nightcrawler you adorable bigot.

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    lol colossus is a faggot? never knew that

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    Quote Originally Posted by kegkilla View Post
    lol colossus is a faggot? never knew that
    Really? I thought you would have known immediately. Usually one colossal faggot can spot another colossal faggot instantly. /rimshot

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    Quote Originally Posted by kegkilla View Post
    lol colossus is a faggot? never knew that
    That's mostly Ultimate Colossus, the cooler version.

    He does things like take mutant steroids made from the genes of wolverine and when wolverine tries to stop him

    roid rage

    when given the deciding vote on if the director of the mutant torture camp should live (who also put peter through the worst of the torture)
    fuck xavier's teachings


    He should probably just be gay in 616(or whatever new universe is being currently made), they took away his 40 year girlfriend and just handed her over to Starlord, cuz he's cool now.

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    What is with the trend of making old characters suddenly gay? Colossus was in love with Kitty Pryde in multiple arcs, and let's be honest, they are living in comic book world, where every girl is a supermodel. It's not like he has to take his pick of the fatties with which to settle down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nidhogg View Post
    What is with the trend of making old characters suddenly gay? Colossus was in love with Kitty Pryde in multiple arcs, and let's be honest, they are living in comic book world, where every girl is a supermodel. It's not like he has to take his pick of the fatties with which to settle down.
    Ultimate was a completely different set of storylines. In a different world Colossus' love of Lenin wasn't just platonic.
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    Colossus being gay was a PR stunt. Same as bobby. There have been a handful of well done gay characters but they are new characters so they aren't latched onto the way a-listers like x-men and justice league characters are. So they "have" to rewrite well known characters. To me, colossus will never be gay. Green lantern will never be gay. Not because I have an issue with them being gay, I have an issue with arbitrary changes. If all of a sudden tony was never an alcoholic, hank pym was a likeable guy, banner LIKED hulking out... I wouldn't like them, even if ultimately it lead to interesting stories... I hate ultimate cap because his personality is super patriot xenophobe. Cap doesn't enjoy schadenfreude. He doesn't make fun of others when they are beaten. Ultimate cap? Dude rips on the French every opportunity he gets.

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    Ultimate cap has the greatest line in comics ever

    Surrender??!! You think this letter on my head stands for France?
    Ultimate line was full of shock, including the incest with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver.
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    That is how First Blood was drawn though. Do we want John Rambo roaming through the forest of our forums killing the police?

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    Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver were always into incest even outside of the Ultimate line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rais View Post
    Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver were always into incest even outside of the Ultimate line.
    Are you sure because it was created for the Ultimate universe. Scarlet's always been hot for the robots in the regular line.

    For a history. Millar made jokes about it starting in 2001 with Ultimate X men. And in 2007 Loeb actually showed it, and in the same issue Loeb killed her.
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    That is how First Blood was drawn though. Do we want John Rambo roaming through the forest of our forums killing the police?

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    The incest was something that was just vaguely hinted at in the regular line. In fact, hinting is probably too strong a word. It was just one of those things where they were very close and people read a little too deeply into. Ultimates just took the idea and ran with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Column View Post
    Ultimate cap has the greatest line in comics ever



    Ultimate line was full of shock, including the incest with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver.
    That line, when I first read it, made me laugh. By itself, it just established him as being a little more edgy than his 616 counterpart. However, all his comments are laced with very subtle vitriol towards other countries. It's almost as if he's written from the perspective of a foreigner who was told about the idea of captain america. It feels almost... Anti-american. At least, the ideology of America. It's very much Captain 'Merica

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    Quote Originally Posted by j00t View Post
    That line, when I first read it, made me laugh. By itself, it just established him as being a little more edgy than his 616 counterpart. However, all his comments are laced with very subtle vitriol towards other countries. It's almost as if he's written from the perspective of a foreigner who was told about the idea of captain america. It feels almost... Anti-american. At least, the ideology of America. It's very much Captain 'Merica
    that's a time displace cap, most recent time is the big war.

    found it.

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    It kind of fits more with the times though, both the times he grew up on during world War two when people were more anti other countries including our allies and when they came out in the early 2000s after we went to war and no one supported us. The Era of freedom fries.

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    No, I know. It's more typical of someone's behavior that is wearing an american flag all over there body.

    Its just... That's not cap. Cap is the guy who fights for EVERYONE. The quote on the statue of liberty? Give me your poor, your sick, your downtrodden. THATS cap. He's the embodiment of everything America COULD be, SHOULD be. Not what it is. It just irks me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j00t View Post
    No, I know. It's more typical of someone's behavior that is wearing an american flag all over there body.

    Its just... That's not cap. Cap is the guy who fights for EVERYONE. The quote on the statue of liberty? Give me your poor, your sick, your downtrodden. THATS cap. He's the embodiment of everything America COULD be, SHOULD be. Not what it is. It just irks me.
    Well said.... I'm about tired of this kind of stuff anyway. It is simply done to stir the pot, garner some attention, and turn a buck. I have nothing against anything or anybody but some of these decision are ridiculous.

    Going to go with the line from the Avengers... "We could use a little old fashioned..."

    Develop new characters and create their own personification instead of leveraging the popularity of others and ruining them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caliane View Post
    And did we find the one person that doesn't love Jubilee?
    I don't like Jubilee. The main reason she has any popularity is because Fox inexplicably chose to replace Kitty Pryde(a much better character) with her.

    Who is Sansa Stark playing and Nightcrawler has a Michael Jackson thriller jacket lol.

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    Sansa is playing Jean.
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    Jubilee has always sucked. Not Gambit-levels of suck, but still sucky.

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    put in order the young girl sidekicks of creepy old man wolverine, best to worst

    1. kitty pryde
    2. x23
    3. jubilee

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    Quote Originally Posted by lanx View Post
    put in order the young girl sidekicks of creepy old man wolverine, best to worst

    1. kitty pryde
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    3. jubilee
    I never thought about it like that. What a creeper.
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    Kinda got to think that age gap is meaningless tO wolverine at this point. He is gonna be 100 years older than any chick he bangs so why worry about how old she is.

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    Ugh. Jean is hot. Sophie Turner, not so much. Munn as psylocke should be good as long as they get a lot of tight leather covered ass shots. Also Tatum should use his accent from the start of 22 Jump Street for Gambit.

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    I disagree with the lether covered ass. they need to keep the costume traditional
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kovaks View Post
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    I misspoke. Thats as much leather as required.

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    She'll probably end up in something more like her X-Force outfit.

    Although if you're really unlucky they'll use Lady Mandarin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nidhogg View Post
    What is with the trend of making old characters suddenly gay? Colossus was in love with Kitty Pryde in multiple arcs, and let's be honest, they are living in comic book world, where every girl is a supermodel. It's not like he has to take his pick of the fatties with which to settle down.
    Kitty Pryde is Ellen Page and Ellen Page is Gay. Coincidence?

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    Isn't Anna Paquin gay as well? I don't see Rogue goin around touchin all the ladies.... yet?

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    Paquin is married to her True Blood costar.

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    I think there was some stories of her being bi?

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