That's awesome. I can't wait.
I love the CGI of Caesar's face. Looks incredible.
Trailer came out. Yes. I'm seeing this.
That's awesome. I can't wait.
I love the CGI of Caesar's face. Looks incredible.
WTF. Planet of the apes without Heston and Dr. Zeas? What total crap.
J/k, this looks awesome.
I loved watching the original movie as a kid, even though it released a few years before I was born. I didn't expect to like the most recent movie, but Caesar's expressions just blew me away. Looking forward to this.
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Yeah I fully expected the newest one to be retarded trash, and it was pretty awesome. I'm looking forward to this, Caesar looks amazing.
I'm a huge fan of all things Planet of the Apes (even the TV show) pre reboot. My series of reactions were like this...
Fucking James Franco better not be in this....fucking Franco nearly ruined that whole film for me...Draco Malfoy and Brian Cox were good, but fucking Franco....this is just going to be a money grab....not going to see this no matter what.
Oh, they got Serkis back....and Gary Oldman...well shit. This will probably be one of the best films of the year then.
Monkeys the new zombies?
I'm guessing they will explain that Franco and his girlfriend died from the virus or something.
I would laugh if they brought back the actor who played Mckay on Stargate, though. Dude was tortured through the whole 1st movie and became patient zero, so to speak.
I have to suspend disbelief soooooooooo fucking hard for these movies, because i know rednecks would be in those jungles eating all the apes the second shit actually went down. If I can supress common sense again, this might actually be enjoyable like the first one somehow was.
I wonder if they will attempt an explanation of how a worldwide ape population could overthrown seven billion humans or just pretend like numbers are irrelevant.
It's due to the disease that kills most of the humans.
1st "new" movie = giving apes intelligence.
2nd "new" movie = most of humanity is dead. Those that survive are enslaved by apes or are hiding in the wild, avoiding capture.
Yeah the same virus that evolves the apes also ends up killing humans. As one spreads, so does the other.
If the porn isn't high res you can't get horny, but you can hate a guy at 1000 paces without a scope. That's human nature.
Ya, if you remember the 1st movie, at the end they basically showed how the fatal virus was spread to pretty much every corner of the world, because that one dude that got infected was an airline pilot.
I wouldn't have thought that Hollywood would greenlight a prequel to 12 Monkeys but here we are.
Thought the first Ape thing was alright. Had a few problems with it like having a 100% reversal Alzheimers medication and not taking that to market. Only lasts four years? Drat. I guess we'll only be billionaires.
On the whole, humans only have two advantages over other apes--our intelligence and our bodies are a ton more efficient. We can go farther, on much less (Yay true bipedal locomotion!). But other than those two things, apes are better in just about every way. If they got intelligence, and we were in a world where our populations were about even AND there was no huge lack of resources--apes rationally, would easily take over.
Lol, you can't just take a drug to market instantly in the U.S.Thought the first Ape thing was alright. Had a few problems with it like having a 100% reversal Alzheimers medication and not taking that to market. Only lasts four years? Drat. I guess we'll only be billionaires.
There are all sorts of FDA benchmarks you would have to pass. Even if you fast tracked it/did some backalley bribery, you're still looking at years.
Yeah, you need years of human testing on a drug (I think a minimum of 10 years) before you can sell a drug on the mass market. The FDA requires you to have virtually every possible side effect figured out, and there are so many different types of body compositions and ways that drugs affect people, that it's incredibly difficult to get a drug to market.
That's also why they cost so fucking much until they become generics.
And the "cost so fucking much" for a lot of reasons other than R&D. Mainly distribution companies who typically want 80% of your profit to take it to mass market.
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In the film the protagonist keeps his miracle cure a secret is what I am talking about. His father has a 100% reversal from advanced Alhzheimers upon taking it and is kept at 100% mental capacity for like four years. That's four years of having a major medical breakthrough just kept under your hat. He only said anything once it stopped working.
i actually paid money to see the first one. it wasnt terrible. james franco was the worst part, also yeah you need to suspend disbelief like a mofo.
I love me some Gary Oldman. I also enjoy Franco tho so take that for what it's worth.
Back to The redneck comment, rednecks would get owned by monkeys, monkeys are clearly smarter than your average redneck. Regular monkeys I mean.
James Franco's face was ripped off by his pet monkey in the director's cut so that's why he's not in the sequel.
Looks great, but the dialogue in that trailer's pretty bad.
This one rustled me:
There's a virus created by scientists in a lab.I've seen things. I've seen where they are.They want what we want - to survive.
I'm such a huge geek for the original series I'll still watch it, but the mystery and hmm for lack of a better word magic is gone from this series. I loved the way the original movies, even the later ones always had you questioning "how", "where", "when", and "why".
You're missing the biggest let down for the last Planet of the Apes movie.
There was NO monkey dick! These things are jumping around all over, yet not a dick to be found. THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED!
do they have female monkeys.
I wish they'd change these movies to let the humans win. I guess what I really want is 2 hours of humans shooting the fuck out of uppity apes.
First reviews are popping up, very very positive. Looks like I'll have to go.
I just watched the first one after dismissing it because of the shitty title. Total surprise at what a good movie it actually was, this is how you do remakes.
an understated ensemble that puts the "b" in subtle
Not really a remake, just a prequel-trilogy thing. But agreed, they are very entertaining. Looking forward to the new one and I'm curious to see where they go with the third.
This looks awesome. It will probably be my favorite black movie next to Friday.
It may be wrong and I may be a horrible person, but I laughed until I cried when I read that just now.
Did Supertouch get RRP for that comment?
Originally Posted by Noodleface
Amidst the viral outbreak, a mother is quarantined after testing positive and must leave her husband and daughter to fend for themselves.
Year Five: Struggling to Survive
With humanity all but gone, an orphaned teenage girl survives by bartering things she has stolen from dead people's homes.
Year Ten: Story of the Gun
Follow the journey of a shotgun through the hands of several ill-fated owners.
So far 96% on Rotten Tomatoes, 26 Fresh, 1 Rotten.
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I look at this film getting good reviews and acknowledge that hey, maybe they could make an actual decent ape movie these days. But I just have no motivation to see it, like literally I give zero fucks care about the plot of this film or the inevitable conclusion that will be no surprise. No zombies, no mech, no badass futuristic hardware or time travel.
It's a post-apocalyptic about survivors fighting the battles scenes that should have been in The Dark Knight Rises. But instead of an epic battle against the league of shadow they're facing smart monkeys who know how to use horses and guns, and the human survivors will lose. Who cares.
The twist is that at the end of the movie, the birds start rising.
Those three shorts were well done. I've always been rather ambivalent about "Planet of the Apes" and I'm not necessarily sold on this movie simply because you kinda know what is going to happen (humans lose). Now the argument can be made that you almost always know what is going to happen in this big genre movies, but for some reason I am less interested in the journey when it comes to man vs ape.
All I can think about here is how they got the names wrong. Rise of the Planet of the Apes was about the very beginning, and how the apes gained intelligence. Dawn of the Planet of the Apes is about how the apes take over. What? Shouldn't Dawn be the beginning, and Rise about how they take over? Did they not plan on making another one, and just didn't think this through?
There's a difference between inferring what the ending is and already having it spelled out as history because of prior movies / remake. I equate it to T4 where you know the exact plot because it's already "happened" and they're not doing anything original. No amount of better acting and believable science will change how boring such movies are.
saw it. seemed really long and meandering. no surprises once main characters have been established about 15 minutes in.
Saw it last night, liked it, but it did seem a little slow.
Solid B+, predictable but nothing that stood out as a cringeworthy/face palm moment.
One of my favorite movies of the last few years. The story uses a lot of familiar themes but it does a great job of evoking sympathy for our simian brothers. I stopped noticing that the apes were CGI after a while.
Whats good about these movies? I caught the last half of rise and I was loling the entire time similar to 2012.
So is there any reference to where the sequel is heading in the third movie, or after credits scenes?
These movies make me laugh. The original was OK because it was a huge plot twist at the end that made it a decent pay-off. Every one after it... lol.
It'd be like if the sequel to Alien was on the Alien home world and discussed the intricacies of the caste system and the political intrigue with the struggles of the queen to maintain her brood.
I guess it's a good thing these movies aren't sequels to the original series.
Movie would have been a decent "Lets turn the brain off and watch some random CGI apes do etc etc etc", but they tacked on 30-45 minutes of unnecessary crap at the beginning, so by the time the movie got decent I was already annoyed.
Also, reminded me why I do not go to the theaters.
This thread is full of Transformer fanboys.
It's nothing to do with Transformers. Planet of the Apes was sci-fi schlock that worked because it was social commentary amidst a backdrop of nuclear Armageddon with the USSR which supplied the ultimate plot twist. What is the purpose of these movies besides milking the franchise and the 'novelty' of apes and gorillas fighting people?
Let me put it another way: the prequels completely invalidate the point of the originals. They have laughably dumb plot points to advance from point A) to point B). It reminds me of the Star Wars prequels where they have to struggle to shove more shit into the movies to make them 'engaging' to new viewers simply to drag the storyline along to go from a disjointed starting point to the foregone conclusion. *shrug* It's not that they're bad 'action' summer flicks per se but why would I want to see a movie about apes?
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Beneath the Planet of the Apes, Escape from the Planet of the Apes, Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, and Battle for the Planet of the Apes, are all mediocre to bad milking endeavors themselves so why get all uppity about the rebooted franchise? There was also a TV show and a cartoon series for fucks sake. After what was done to this poor cow in the 70s it's a goddamn miracle it's still producing milk. This series is The Giving Tree of movie franchises.
For the time, considering no one wanted to spend money on a quality Science Fiction movie, they were pretty high minded movies. Slow paced cerebral Science Fiction just does not pull in the money anymore. Its hard for anyone who did not grow up in that time frame to understand why these movies were so popular. Its because they were commenting on a number of social issues fresh in everyone's mind and there simply was nothing like them around.
As for the newer movies, the Wahlberg one was an attempt by Burton to emulate the schlock but not the substance, which is why it failed. The two recent ones are predictable stories, but the real meat is in the nuances and the social commentary, same as what made the originals so phenomenally popular. Having access to insane CGI and being able to do good action sequences certainly helps, but CGI alone does not make for a memorable or even good movie (see Green Lantern, Transcendence, ect.). Even the hugely successful Avatar movie is just about forgotten, outside of some people who jizz over the special effects or who dress up as the aliens at furry conventions, because the acting and story were flat and had zero depth. These films have depth and I think they are going to be popular for a good long while.
Having finally seen the third movie, I enjoyed it a lot, mostly due to the quality of the acting of the monkey characters and the social themes. The biggest complaints I have about it are how criminally under used Gary Oldman was and how little time they spent fleshing out the nature of the human survivor community.
668 The Neighbor of the Beast.
Originally Posted by Erronious
Yeah Gary Oldman really could have been anybody in this movie for how central he was to the story. You pay that Gary Oldman money when you want someone to bring a performance to life, this.... was not that. I thought both the first one and this one were awesome, and find the ape culture interesting unlike most of the people in this thread.
Saw it yesterday, really loved it. 9/10.
Andy Serkis will probably unfortunately continue on as one of the best unrecognized, but great actors ever. Ceaser was awesome, and what was cool was that a lot of his character was simply expressed through his face. He could speak, yeah, but didn't always do so.
Also the CG on the Apes was insanely good, holy shit.
the apes were incredible but the film dragged a little bit for me, decent overall
This movie was so bad it almost turned me off from wanting to watch movies anymore.
I don't even know where to start. It was SO. FUCKING. LONG. I thought after the apes attacked they were all going to die and that was going to be a wrap, honestly theres no fucking way they win that battle, they were in a god damn death tunnel being fired on. And that tank part? LOL get fucked, I know I'm supposed to suspend reality but that was the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
Then after that scene, the movie just fucking drags on and on with the ceasar being wounded bullshit. And that main actor guy with his kid, holy fucking cringe factory. Any time his son does something the camera pans to his dad with that curious stupid fuck look on his face as he tried to watch on.
0/10 honestly one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
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In a movie in which the Apes are already predestined to conquer the world, how many battles do you expect them to focus on showing humans winning? What would the odds be of the Apes winning if on the onset of war, they lost half their population?
To be fair humans could and probably would win some battles/skirmishes, but again the chances of them focusing on a battle that the humans won, especially so early into the conflict were the Ape population is the lowest and their society is fringe...it could happen I guess, and the Apes could pull it out in the long term, but it would be hard to come back and win a war if you lose most of your soldiers so early.
Rips have been out for a week or so now.
Does this movie have a lot of subtitles? The apes are signing a lot and I've got no clue what's being expressed.
Yes. I started watching it and wondered the same thing, so turned on subtitles and had to start over from the beginning. There is a ton of conversation among the apes.
saw the blu ray rips, as people said CGI monkeys are fucking amazing. with the exception of one or two scenes they are extremely fluid and immersive and you completely forget its all CGI a few minutes in. unfortunately the story pretty much sucks balls, the first 45 minutes are pretty good but then its just cliche after lame cliche, the last 5 minutes sets up though possibly a cool "war of the planet of the apes" sequel in a few years. shoulda just skipped straight to that though.
theres some monkey sounds at the very end (post credits) but no visuals dunno if that was supposed to mean something
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