It's not worth the risks. Just wear glasses.
This past weekend I went to see a Lasik specialist. I've been putting it off for some time now because I thought needles were involved, I don't mind needles now, but something about putting a needle the eyeball just didn't sit right.
I was told that I had a almost 100% chance of getting 20/20 vision and a 67% chance of getting 20/15.
How many of you guys/gals have had Lasik done? How long ago? and was it worth it? Has your vision gone to hell afterward or has it lasted? Regrets?
Sorry for all the questions, I have an appointment for the surgery scheduled for January. Just wanted to see what you all have experienced... good and bad.
"Sorry I tried to spit roast your mom."
It's not worth the risks. Just wear glasses.
It's a supertouch post!
Got it done 2 years ago. My vision wasn't too bad to begin with, I think one eye was -2.75 and the other was -2.25. I now have 20/15 vision. Haven't had any issues with dryness. My night vision wasn't good to begin with, but I don't think it got any worse. There was definitely some halos for the first few weeks, but they largely went away and I honestly can't tell the difference between now and what it was before. I highly, highly recommend it.
The procedure isn't that bad at all. I had mine done at 10 or 11 in the morning. By 8pmk that night after sitting in a dark room bored all day, my vision was fine and I was well enough to hop in my car and drive to a bar my friend was working at for a beer. It's fucking amazing how fast it healed. I played hockey 3-4 days after. It was really only the first few hours after that were unpleasant, when the numbing wears off and you want to scratch your eye balls out. But at bout 4-5 hours after surgery all of the sudden that went away and I felt mostly fine.
Last edited by Eomer; 10-24-2013 at 10:28 PM.
I had PRK, which is similar to LASIK (both are laser refractive eye surgeries) but with much longer healing times
Best fucking money I've ever spent, and I spent a lot on an expert in the field ($4k total)
I had terrible eyes... like -7.00 bad eyes. I now see 20/15 with both eyes open, 20/20 in each eye individually. Easily the best money I've ever spent in my life though. It's easy to call things life changing, but if your vision is even moderately bad, it is unbelievable
Having perfect eyes I don't have any person experience, but everyone I know that has had it done would do it again.
My total cost would be $4k as well, but the place I'm having it done at is having a promotion thing and will be $3600 total.
I'm sure it'll be awesome to see 20/15 but hell... ANYTHING is an improvement at this point.
"Sorry I tried to spit roast your mom."
Don't do it. You'll go blind
Last edited by supertouch; 10-24-2013 at 11:11 PM.
Sucking a tranny dick isn't gay.
Wait, is it? Fuck.
I just wear contacts. I don't want motherfuckers going near my eyes.
If you can get both eyes done for under 4 grand, that seems like a steal. I would have done it at that price.
Oh also, I'm in my mid 30s, and several different doctors at my consultations each told me that even with Lasik, because of my extremely poor vision I would probably end up needing reading glasses within 10-15 years. So I said fuck it, I wasn't going to spend 8 grand and be right back to wearing glasses in 10 years.
In all seriousness, there are risks involved but if you're willing to dish out several grand and to risk permanent damage and discomfort when glasses suffice then more power to you.
I had PRK done about 18 months ago. Vision was -6 in each eye. Supposedly 20/20 now, doesn't really feel like it though. My vision was very very sharp with glasses, I am definately not near where I was with glasses post PRK.
That said, my vision is good, I have no halos or issues (eyes still pretty dry but not unbearable) and it's been months since I've even remembered that I was once quite blind.
Worth the money? Probably. I didn't mind glasses so much; wasn't in love with the look. Contacts were a huge pain in the ass. Helpful with sports.
In regards to PRK in particular, it will take you several weeks before you can go back to using computers and what not. Its recovery time is very gradual. I was still gaining vision increases almost a year after the surgery. Using the drops very regularly helps. Once infection is no longer a concern, use Systene Balance drops (the real expensive ones in shiny purple container). They're seriously head and shoulders above anything else.
Lot of prks...thought they were mainly phased out by lasek.
I went to a local doctor and was going to get lasek for 4500 but I didn't do it because I was worried about his experience. If I were in a huge city where I could go to a guy with like 10k surgeries I'd do it.
My vision is -5.5 and I was thinking even if I still had to wear glasses after at least I wouldn't be crippled blind. If I could function without I probably wouldn't do it.
I've made 900 posts in 10 months. I'd hardly call that spending an entire day in front of a monitor. Secondly, I've been active my entire life and have never had issues with glasses. You know how many people I've met who simply refuse to wear glasses because they're afraid of looking "nerdy"? Unless you plan to secure a job that absolutely will not allow spectacles, the risk really is unnecessary.
I don't man, 8 grand seems worth 10 years of good vision to me. Perspective, I guess.
I'm opting for PRK over Lasik as well. Strange, I thought LASIK was much more popular but apparently just as many people still do PRK.
When I was -7, losing a contact meant I was fucked walking around (or god forbid, driving) with a single eye. Go out to a party you drove to? Meant I had to bring glasses or contacts so I could actually drive home the next day (instead of driving drunk)
And that's just basic social stuff and not even talking about sports. It really does change what you have to worry about in life
The heal time sucks ass and takes longer than LASIK, but I have no complaints... you don't need to have your eyes covered up after the first week and your eyes will fluctuate a bit the first few months, but I'm going on 5 years now since I had my PRK and my eyes are still strong
And everyone is going to need reading glasses eventually - that's something that no refractive surgery can fix. Hence it's better to get it done early and get more years out of it than later
"Sorry I tried to spit roast your mom."
Is definitely possible that the tech has changed in the last 3 or 4 years. I should probably check it out again
me to. do you need to have a stable perscription for a couple of years before you do it? thats what i remember hearing.
Grimble - They say you need a stable prescription for a year or so now.
I am thinking about getting LASIK or PRK done. I have worn glasses/contacts for 32 years and dammit, I want to wake up one morning and actually be able to see without needing something on/in my eyes.
Anyone have really bad astigmatisms on top of their bad vision and had this done? How did it go?
Yeah, I have a bad astigmatism in one eye, that may have been part of my very expensive LASIK quote.
I had it done about ten years ago, and I've never had a single problem. My eyesight has probably deteriorated a little bit, but no more than due to normal aging. My vision now is better than my girlfriend's when she has corrective lenses in.
If the porn isn't high res you can't get horny, but you can hate a guy at 1000 paces without a scope. That's human nature.
Forgot to mention that my dad had Lasik back when it was pretty much brand new 20 or so years ago. He was in his early 40's at the time. His vision is still very good, although he does wear glasses when driving at night. But he's 63 now, so understandable. He has no regrets about it either, and the technology is leaps and bounds better today. Back then you had one eye done, waited two weeks, and then they did the other eye, just in case they destroyed one or the other.
Last edited by Eomer; 10-25-2013 at 04:07 PM.
It's the best money I ever spent on my health. I had it done almost 10 years ago. It will affect you in a positive way every day of your life. From going to the movies, rain won't bother you on the way in and no glare, to having the option to pick up cheap sunglasses in a pinch it is all positive. I need readers now but I would have needed then without the surgery as well. Make sure you go to someone with the latest laser and laser flap cutting, read the contact, and go. I mention to read it because good physicians will include free touch ups for free. Discounters typically charge extra for everything including the most modern lasers.
Pretty much what Guurn said. I had mine done about 7 years ago and it was best decision I ever made. I had 20/200 vision and couldnt see shit without my glasses. Never could have a nice pair of sunglasses or anything. I had to spend close to 3K but I got 18 months at 0% interest and managed to pay it off. I'm very eye squeamish and couldnt even watch people put their contacts in. they gave me a tylenol PM to relax me before the procedure and it honestly wasnt that bad. 15 minutes and when it was done i could see 20/20 and still can to this day. I had maybe 2 days of dryness and a month of seeing halos around lights at night, but everything is good now.
Like Guurn stated, I went to a very reputable Lasik doctor and got the plan where if anything ever goes fuzzy again they will touch up my eyes. I doubt I'll ever need it, but its fantastic knowing I wont ever need my Harry Potter glasses again.
I'm interested in the surgery, but I apparently have freakish eyes that can endure the Night & Day contacts for an entire month without any negative effects. I never get dry or itchy eyes. I never wake up with cloudy vision. I've never suffered an eye infection. I change my contacts once every 30-50 days. I just can't justify the money when my contacts hardly affect my life as is.
Same with me, I put a contact in and take it out when it starts bothering me... Which is usually 30-45 days. I've got friends that can't go 8 hours with theirs in.
I had retina reattachment about 13 years ago. I wonder if it is possible for me to get lasik. I have a decent scar on my eye. I can wear contacts and my vision hasn't changed in years.
My experience very closely mirrors eomer's. I paid 3500 cash to have it done at the chain place "laser vision center" that advertises on the radio. (4000 dollar procedure, 10% off for insurance or 500 off if you pay in full... Fuck insurance). Got it done 1 year ago. Custom LASIK, ended up at very close to 20/15.
Best money I have ever spent.
I'm 24 and am told that my corneas are too thin. She said another doctor might still consider it, or that PRK would be a safer route. (This doctor was examining me for custom LASIK).
I've done some research on PRK but I'm still confused - if another doctor would consider it, does this mean that she's too inexperienced and didn't want to damage me or is my case really is too dangerous no matter who the doctor is? I can't seem to find a solid answer. Also, I've been told PRK and Lasik are *completely* different procedures and that my corneas being too thin have no effect on the PRK procedure - I don't really believe this. Any answers here?
edit: Oh, I've been a steady -8.00 for almost 5 years prescription wise and have astigmatisms in both eyes but they are minimal I'm told.
Also, I have to be very cautious because if I fuck up my eyes I lose my future jobs and quite possibly the one I have now...
It's hard, but I want to get rid of the hassle of contacts and have good vision so fucking bad it's crazy.
Last edited by eXarc the Internet Panther; 10-28-2013 at 12:21 PM.
My wife was around -9.5 +/- .25 in each eye. After a ton of research she settled with ICL because they'd have to take too much off to correct her vision, basically what eX was told. From what I understand LASIK is riskier as your eyes are worse.
I got LASIK done around 10 years ago, it was one of the best decisions that I have ever made. I am not sure what the procedure is called, but they cut open my eye and nuked it with a laser. It is kind of frightening, but I went for it.
For around 1 - 2 years I had better than 20 / 20 vision. For the following 4ish years I had 20 / 20. After that point my vision started to fade a bit. I have a really light prescription now and I wear glasses. Technically, I don't need to wear them to drive, but I can't quite see signs from as far as I would like without them.
Apparently, I do not have much material in my cornea which wouldn't allow them to do the procedure again without a really long healing period and it would be the last time ever. Instead of going that route, I just have my glasses and that is fine. If I had to chose, I would do it all over again no question. Going from seeing blurry blobs without glasses to not needing glasses for 90% of my day was well worth it.
LASIK is where they cut a flap (with a blade in the past, now most use lasers) and then reshape your cornea
PRK, they basically remove the surface and reshape the cornea, hence the longer healing time - you need to have your surface cells grow back over your cornea
The difference is, PRK doesn't take as much off on your eyeball and no permanent scar is left
There is always risk involved in any of these procedures. Don't let people tell you otherwise because they are Lieing.
I would never even consider Lasik because contacts are so good now they are pretty much at the point where it never bothers me personally.
So that risk far outweighs the benefit of Lasik
For some people that have massive problems with contacts, I would go for the Lasik. It's personal choice tho
I had it done about 14 years ago. It was ridiculously expensive back then, but I still consider it to be the best money I ever spent. For the first two years I had issues with dryness, then one day the problem just went away and has never come back. I haven't had any deterioration of vision since the surgery.
I just got LASIK done in July. It was finished in under 3 minutes, the surgery was painless. I had discomfort the day of the surgery because for some reason benadryl didn't knock me out but it just felt like there was sand in my eyes and my nose ran a lot etc. I actually drove myself to the doctors the next morning. I have no 0 complications other then the dry eyes which is normal.
It's wonderful actually being able to read signs and street signs etc. I highly recommend it.
I had mine done in July of 2001. Best money I ever spent. The advice I give to everyone who has ever asked me is not to make this a financial decision, but choose the very best doctor with the best equipment for your particular case. Good doctors will meet with you themselves during the pre-exam, and answer frank questions. Personally, I'd avoid any of the assembly line places that take your money, do an exam and then the surgery in one visit. Doing some basic research on google will give you a basic list of questions to ask. They are your eyes after all, and you should make an informed decision. If you have a regular ophthalmologist, ask their opinion as to whether you are a good candidate for lasik and who they would recommend you use and/or stay away from. If I didn't have a regular eye doctor, I'd visit one to get an unbiased opinion.
I'll give you a for instance. When I was researching to have my eyes done, there was a "celebrity doctor" who had non stop radio and TV ads featuring all the local San Diego celebrities and sports figures pimping his practice. I talked to my eye doctor, and he said to avoid him and go to a another doctor, who was low key and far more experienced. Not too long after I had my surgery, the celebrity doctor went to jail for tax evasion. As part of his money issues, the celebrity doctor was proven to have performed all kinds of unnecessary procedures on people who would not benefit, or on people that other doctors would not touch do to not being a good candidate for the surgery because he needed the money. You can google him, name was Glenn Kawesch.
Heh, I had a similar approach. If anything I was looking for the most expensive surgeon, not the cheapest. I spoke with a couple optometrists and they both pointed me to the same guy, who was fairly expensive as compared to most other clinics. At around that time, there was a news story about the founder of one clinic trying to kill his ex-partner or some shit, and they were the main clinic in the city, so I stayed the fuck away from them.
Eye surgeon guilty in murder-for-hire plot - Edmonton - CBC News
Lasik is the eye surgery where they use lasers right? Cos if so, then I know of three people who have had it done. Two were successful, one wasn't. The success stories were a friend and a co-worker. Changed both their lives and as with many here say it's the best money they ever spent. The unsuccessful story is the mother of a co-worker who was one of those 1% that get fucked up. They burned for a fraction too long and she ended up with even worse eyesight than she had before and no way to repair it.
I have worn glasses since I was a teen and I like them, they feel part of me. I have sometimes thought about having surgery, but the fact is, even with an advertised 99% success rate, there is always the chance they will fuck up (and since I know of one personally it bites), so I have never tried it. I have also heard second hand that it's not good for those whose eyesight is still getting worse (i.e. has not stabilised). The very long term (decade or more) are also not fully known.
But if I were you, shop around, and most importantly, talk to folks you know about which clinics are the best. Don't skimp on this. Paying more to go to a reputable clinic with the best track record you can find is better than going to a cheaper one and finding out you're one of the 1%.
I went for an eye exam/consultation yesterday and am a good candidate for both PRK and Lasik. PRK sounds like its a longer recovery time, but no scarring from a flap being created. But it does sound like I have to be fairly careful in caring for my eyes after (2-3 weeks).
Anyone have experience with PRK?
What sort of defense is that?His lawyers said the informant employee pushed Mockovak into the plot, after he initially raised it as a joke
"I was just kidding about hiring hitmen to kill my business partner. But once my employee agreed with me, I had no choice but to go through with it. I was entrapped!"
No shit. If the shape of your eye is still changing, your vision will continue to deteriorate after the surgery. Hence why any decent surgeon will strongly recommend that your prescription remain stable for 2 years before having the operation. Basically, it's probably not a good idea for people in their early 20's as your eye balls and brain are still changing shape. I didn't even start wearing glasses until I was 19, and my vision slowly deteriorated until I was 28 or so. I gave it a couple years to stabilize, and then got the surgery at 30.Originally Posted by aaron
The procedure has been done in large numbers for 20+ years now. I would imagine there's plenty of study done by now on the long term effects. But the fact of the matter is that virtually everyone's vision begins to deteriorate in their 50's and 60's, no matter how good their eye sight was when they were younger. So if you're getting the surgery done in your 30's, it's kind of irrelevant that your vision might start to deteriorate, because you'll end up wearing glasses one way or the other anyways.Originally Posted by aaron
My dad had it done when he was in his early 40's, and at 63 his vision is still quite good. He wears glasses when driving at night, but otherwise lives his day to day life without glasses, whereas he spent the first 40 years of his life wearing coke bottles on his face. He had it done by this dude, who apparently was one of the pioneers in it: LASIK Cataract Surgeon Calgary Edmonton AB Howard Gimbel MD
Looks like it's been going on for closer to 25 years commercially at this point, longer research wise. Plenty of time to have a good handle on the long term effects.
Last edited by Eomer; 11-13-2013 at 11:38 PM.
My girl should really do this but she is scared to death of this procedure... I can understand it... but if it was me I'd do it without second thoughts.
I agree, 2 decades might not be that much but it's not exactly a new technique.
My wife had PRK done a few days ago. First two days after were miserable, between the pain of having a laser to here eyeball and the dilation of her pupils lasting so long, but today was better. The only downside is that she has to keep the contacts in until next week (PRK removes the epithelial layer entirely around the iris, contacts are necessary to prevent infection until a new one forms) and there's water underneath them so it's disorienting at times. She can see though. So if you can handle a couple of days of unpleasantness then you should be okay.
Oh, and her surgeon was the guy who did Lindy Ruff (former coach of Sabres, current of Stars). Apparently the first couple of days afterward he was a huge cry baby so the surgeon told him to grow a pair. I found that highly amusing.
i was reading this thread and really couldn't relate to how bad you guys eyes must be, i mean i always put on friends glasses with worse prescriptions than mine. i can see the tv fine, i can't read a "call us now" phone number and putting on my glasses (if the source is already hd) makes me go from sd to hd, i've had glasses since i was 10, and while i "could" drive without them, i wouldn't personally.
i found this sight
VisionSimulations.com - Blurry Vision Simulator
i'd say i'm a level 3 blurry, for those of you that had/have level 10 and above, holy christ it's like adjusting the 3d level on a nintendo 3ds
Without contacts I'm around level 2-3 on that scale. It's difficult to compare since many features look much worse in the blurred picture than they do in real life. However, getting the text sufficiently blurry makes the rest of the picture too blurry, if that makes sense.
Honestly, I'm worse than a 20 on that blur scale on that site. If you look at the second picture of the menu, my vision would make the large white letters on the green background at the top just look like a solid white blur, you would see no breaks of the background green in between the letters.
I'd probably need that scale to push to a 30 to simulate my vision without contacts/eyeglasses. FYI that's a -8.75 contact prescription.
The last time I did an old-fashioned eye test with no correction whatsoever to start with, I couldn't even make out the giant E at the top, I needed a little correction to even make that out.
Last edited by joeboo; 12-06-2013 at 12:16 AM.
I had PRK done when I was 18. I was disqualified for LASIK because of the width of my cornea (as I understood it back then). I had TERRIBLE vision. -8.25 in both eyes, legally blind, jail-time if i was driving without glasses. I was that kid in high school with bottle-cap glasses.
Best thing my parents ever did for me. Ever. I'm 20/15 now "eagle eyes" still to this day. And it has been 13 years. My parents paid a little extra for a highly recommended doctor in Houston.
My post op experience was a bit rough and probably not the norm but I would endure it again and again and again to have perfect vision.
Had this done about 8 years ago with the "cheap" laser at the time at Lasic Plus and it is by far the best money I have ever spent. Don't bother with the "free touch ups for X years" bullshit as it is just wasting money but if you have the funds (or the credit) just fucking do it! You won't regret it.
Lasik changed my life. There's nothing more annoying than having your glasses continually slide down your nose while eating a chick out.
Seriously, Lasik really did change my life.
I started wearing specs at aged 16 (i'm 44 now) and it wore pretty fucking thin many years ago tbh.
Costs are not that bad, £1500-3000 depending on the treatment taken, I just need to grow a set and have this done
I'm getting this done mid-january. Hoping things go well. I've only been wearing glasses since 06..probably should have been wearing them before then, but didn't go for a regular eye exam until 06. I fucking hate glasses and will be thrilled once I no longer need them for distance. I tried contacts, and hated those as well.
Got PRK yesterday to correct my nearsightedness. Everything went fine, just need to heal. The protective contacts arent as bad as I thought theyd be and they come out Monday, so not terrible. The procedure took 5min, prep took 4 hours (paperwork, imaging, etc). Moving my eyes left/right is kind of uncomfortable and the overall sensation is kind of like getting shampoo/soap in my eyes, but its constant. I have to put 3 different eye drops in my eyes every 4hrs for the next week as well. I'll update in a few weeks to see if this shit actually worked and I can see things from more then 10 feet away in detail.
Every year or so I read a thread about LASIK (like this one!) in the hope that something has developed. My issue is that while my vision is somewhat weak, my main problem is astigmatism. I get pretty rough astigmatism headaches if I don't wear glasses. Seems like LASIK for astigmatism has been "experimental" for several years that that it still hasn't reached the point that I am comfortable with it. The thought of something going wrong is kinda terrifying and I need the procedure to be totally mainstream and tested on a zillion other people before I get comfortable with it. Will check back again in 2015!
Custom LASIK is good at preventing astigmatism from getting worse as well as preventing night vision problems because it actually measures your eye, instead of just shaping it to some stock size. Obviously I'm not a dr, but you're never going to get one of them to 100% guarantee a procedure, just like you'll never find a truth telling lawyer.
I barely qualified for LASIK when I did it 10 years ago. In fact, my appointment was for PRK, but the doc looked at the charts one more time and said fuck it. Not scary at all O.o
The procedure was absolutely painless. They put drops in to numb your eyes, then it just felt like my eyes were suction cupped open, and I was at the bottom of a pool looking at a red light on the surface.
The one thing I would do different is not pay for the lifetime guarantee. The place snuck in a mandatory annual 'eye exam' requirement with them only for 100$ or it gets cancelled.
10 years on, my right eye is still sharp but my left is getting a bit fuzzy. I can fudge eye exams still by squinting.
My wife did PRK and for about a month it was kind of dicey as the eyes healed. However, at the one month appointment she was cleared with 20/20 vision and from everything I hear about PRK it's only going to get better. That first week was rough. Our bedroom is pretty dark since I work nights and sleep during the day, mostly just electronic lights, but even those bothered her.
Just so you guys know, both PRK and Lasik can lower the quality of vision. I did PRK and while my right eye is near perfect, my left eye has some minor issues. It's not enough to affect my daily life and most of the time I don't notice it, but there are risks of major complications. As rare as they are you have to consider them before doing eye surgery.
Had PRK done, best surgery in the world ever.. even if my eyes were .005% off I would instantly have it done again. It is life changing. You are crazy not get this done, CRAZY
let me throw in my experience. Get the fucking surgery if glasses bother you even slightly. A life without them is 9000% better. I was legally blind without glasses, and now my vision is close to 20/20. Im not perfect and i'd still do it again in a heartbeat.
Just want to get some basic info but is the average cost for each eye about 2k nowadays in the US?
I don't know about average, but thats about the cost for a good surgeon.
I had Lasik done about 17 years ago now, my correction wasn't huge, I was -3.50 in both eyes. I still to this day have 20/20 vision and no haloing at night. It was the best decision I ever made and I have never once regretted it.
My dad barely needed glasses, and his Lasik was about $1500 per eye. I'm damn near legally blind without glasses/contacts, and I was quoted by the same place at $4000 per eye.
The problem is, most good Lasik places will guarantee their surgery for life(or at least until age 65), so if you need corrections/adjustments down the road those are free. Someone with really bad eyesight to begin with is a lot more likely to need those adjustments periodically so they are going to front-load the price assuming you'll be back several more times.
For reference, my fathers contact prescription was like -2.5 in each eye($1500 per eye), while mine is -7.75($4000 per eye)
Last edited by joeboo; 09-05-2014 at 03:24 PM.
I was -2.5 in each eye, it was about 4 grand in total. No extra charges for drugs, check-ups, etc and it was fully warrantied for life. So yeah, that seems to be the going rate for a good surgeon. The ads you here about $499 per eye don't include shit.
I went in for a consultation about 4-5 years ago and they recommended PRK. I was not interested in PRK due to the longer healing time. My prescription hasn't degraded that much, but, being near-sighted absolutely sucks when working in a hospital cause I can't see signs far away. I can't even read the telemetry units.
It depends. I remember there was one bargain LASIK place in L.A. that had the highest success rate of anyone except for the guy who all the LASIK doctors go to when they want LASIK. Why? They'd done the most procedures and had the most experience with everything. Nothing ever came up that was "I've never seen this before!"
A college friend had it done about 15 years ago and it never really worked out. After that I just decided to keep wearing glasses forever.
On another large forum I belong to a guy had it done and they totally screwed him. I'm not sure what the problem was. He sold everything he owned trying to get it fixed and traveling to other doctors to look at, attempt to fix it. Eventually he comitted suicide over it.
I know that's extreme cases but I'll pass.
Ho yeah, a guy from the internet told me.
Not everything on the internet is true - Abraham Lincoln
Before that I assumed the worst the could happen is you just don't get good vision out of it but he some affects that bothered his vision besides not just seeing well, but I'm not exactly sure what it was.
Last edited by Borzak; 09-08-2014 at 02:02 AM.
Necroing this because why the fuck not. Getting LASIK next month. $3800 for both eyes if you pay cash. I've worn contacts for 15 years and almost any amount of money is worth ending that shit.
I'd love to not have 20/2000 vision :-p
In a bit of a horror story, one of my friends got it done 3-4 years ago. He claims the surgeon somehow fucked up his tear ducts so his eyes were super dry. He's since had that fixed, but it lead to him accidentally confusing flea medication(for his cat) for eye drops. Suffice it to say, he's wearing glasses again. So long money.
I got it done at the beginning of 2014 (prk) and it was amazing. Occasional dryness, but thats it. My vision is somewhere between 20/20 and 20/15 now.
I would never get lasik. I know 5 people who have had it and 4 of them have had complications after a few years. The first year or two everything was great. One almost completely lost their vision and has to wear borderline cokebottle glasses and its still getting worse. My uncle who got it ended up having to use eye drops the rest of his life. The people like Pyratec that have had it for 10+ years with zero complications are rare, I think.
Seriously, if you want to get lasik, do your research and get real unbiased, true, hard facts and talk to people who got it at least 3-4 years ago. I am legally blind (20/2400) and I would never get lasik. Just understand the risks, and understand that unlike pills and such the risks on lasik are higher (American Journal of Ophthalmology estimates that up to 5.7% of lasik surgeries have some kind of complication).
1 in 20 is pretty good odds. At 20/2000 I'm sure there's no way they could correct me anywhere near 20/20 but I'd gladly be satisfied just taking a big chunk out of the strength of my prescription.
Also, legally blind means your vision is 20/200 or worse even with correction.
My mother-in-law had cataracts, so 4 years ago she had a procedure similar to mine except that the implanted lens replaces your natural lens instead of just sitting in front of it. She now has near-perfect vision, including for reading, despite being 70 years old. No complications.
My sister had Lasik around 6 years ago. Despite having worse vision than mine, the doctor went full Lasik. She did develop ectasia from it.
Whatever. If I had to make the same decision today knowing all of that, I would still do it. The misery of napping or sleeping in contacts, traveling with solution and an extra pair, waking up in the night and just seeing blurs until you can find your glasses... fuck all of that.
Did all the people you know go to the same clinic or something? Maybe there's a really shitty doctor where you are, or something. I know a couple dozen people who've had it done, and not a single one regrets it. In fact, everyone I know including myself rave about how great it's been.
LASIK Risks and LASIK Complications - AllAboutVision.com
Millions of surgeries have been completed. If serious complications were truly wide spread, we'd have heard about it by now, and there'd be class action lawsuits flying around.Millions of Americans have had LASIK eye surgery to correct their vision since it was introduced in the United States more than 20 years ago, and experienced LASIK surgeons report that serious complication rates can be held below 1 percent.
Complications generally were more common in the early years of LASIK, when studies in the late 1990s indicated that up to 5 percent of people undergoing laser vision correction experienced some type of problem. These days, this number is under 1 percent for serious complications.
A worldwide review of LASIK published in 2009 showed that more than 95 percent of people who had LASIK surgery between 1995 and 2003 were satisfied with their outcome.
Public confidence in LASIK has grown in recent years due to the solid success rate of LASIK surgery outcomes. The U.S. military also has adopted widespread use of laser eye surgery to decrease reliance of troops on corrective eyewear. As of 2008, more than 224,000 military personnel had undergone laser vision correction. Since the procedure first was introduced in the military in 2000, researchers have conducted more than 45 studies regarding safety and effectiveness of LASIK and other procedures.
LASIK outcomes have been overwhelmingly positive. Most military patients see 20/20 or better after the procedure without corrective eyewear, and the rate of complications has been very low. According to one study, only one in 112,500 patients required medical disability retirement due to complications from laser vision correction during this eight-year period.
In another study, 100 percent of pilots and other aircraft personnel from the U.S. Navy and U.S. Marine Corps who underwent custom (wavefront-guided) LASIK attained 20/20 uncorrected visual acuity within two weeks after surgery.
When questioned about their satisfaction one month after surgery, 95 percent of these patients said the procedure was helpful to their effectiveness, and 100 percent said they would recommend it to other aviators. Study results were presented at the 2008 ASCRS annual meeting.
I had 20/400 (or something) and ended up with better than 20/20 when done.
The ONLY freaky part was when the cut the flap of your cornea away, things get very blurry for a short time before they put it back. The place I went to offered valium to calm your nerves if you needed it.
Get it, don't even think about it if you have the $$$. Even if you don't take out a loan.
My wife had it done back in the day when they used scalpels, not lasers (we're old). I didn't want her to do it. It was too new but she went ahead and it was miraculous. Her eyesight has deteriorated over the years and she now uses glasses, especially for reading but we have no regrets about it.
I got lasik done many years ago. It's the best $3000 I've ever spent in my entire life (it seems prices haven't gone down). I still have awesome eyesight.
This may have no basis in fact, but I believe my result was so awesome was because I made a conscious effort to look at the red light and not move my eyes at all. The less your eyes move, the fewer corrections the laser needs to make. My then-girlfriend had hers done after she saw my amazing result. She said they kept telling her to stop moving her eyes. Less than two years later she was wearing glasses again to read.
The one thing about the surgery I didn't expect: smelling my eyeball burning while the laser was cutting.
I work for an ophthalmologist with 30+ years of experience, and he pretty much exclusively does PRK. In fact, we try to steer most of our laser surgery patients towards PRK as opposed to LASIK with a corneal flap. Up front, it tends to hurt a little bit more and have slightly longer recovery times, but the complication rate is way lower because it's incision free.
I have pretty heavy astigmatism in one eye, and I'm happy with glasses, but if I ever got laser surgery I'd go the PRK route, for sure. I've also heard that people who need repeat laser vision correction later in life have better chances with PRK because less cornea is taken off, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
Last edited by Thlayli; 09-19-2015 at 12:32 AM.
This was a while ago, still 100% recommend the procedure, or at the very minimum go for a consultation, the dr told me I had thick corneas and could likely get retreated 2-3 more times no problem, if I absolutely needed to, as I got older. He also said that thick corneas tend to not develop some kind of other disease from a buildup of pressure, or something, but yea, it was a while ago and I don't remember exactly.
I came out in between 20/15 and 20/20 which is the same I could be corrected to with glasses, and I already had minor night halos/star bursts, but they did not get any worse, which I had been concerned about, but he assured me that custom lasik prevents problems like that because it takes into account the irregularities in the back of the eye already.
Going from 20/90 to 20/15 is absolutely amazing, and it doesn't matter how good you look in glasses, you'll be more attractive without them.
Last edited by Antarius; 09-20-2015 at 03:49 AM.
My vision is horrid, my contacts are a -8.75 in each eye, which I guess converts out to roughly 20/900 vision.
About 5-6 years ago, most local LASIK places were advertising rates starting at about $1500 per eye. Well, I needed so much correction I was going to be $4500 per eye so I chose not to do it.
Has anyone here priced out LASIK 5ish years ago as opposed to now? I'm sure it's come down in price a bit, but I'm just curious as to how much. $9000 was not worth it to me at the time to stop wearing contacts, but if prices are roughly half(or less) now compared to 5-6 years ago, I might think about it.
As I was mentioned further up on the page, thought I would give a further update. I had the procedure done in 1997 and my vision is still good to great, no need for correction at all. I have also experienced no complications, from major ones like health issues to even minor ones like haloing of lights at night. Would recommend.
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