I was pleasantly surprised by the 1st season, so hopefully they are able to keep it up this time around
I was pleasantly surprised by the 1st season, so hopefully they are able to keep it up this time around
would love to see them do some 2-3 parters this season.
Good episode, sad they are going back to new york and leaving lestrade and mycroft in london. I like both actors.
got behind and finally caught up, seems they are going to take the show down a dark road
I'm guessing Mycroft isn't sinister, or at least not sinister in a "Works for Moriarty" sort of way. In the books he worked for the British government, so it wouldn't be a stretch that he works for MI-6 and he is trying to get Sherlock to become an asset for them.
yeah, thats what i assumed too, mycroft is always involved with the brit government on the downlow . however, this episode was a little dark all on its own.
Anyone watch tonight's episode and feel like they missed something? the first intro scene was things I've never seen before?
thats from last season's finale. if you missed that then yeah you missed something.
no worries, its CBS they make their crime procedurals for 55 and older audiences. a lot of generic going on here. still not a bad episode tonight. i wonder if Moriarty's mentor turns out to be Mycroft. i was also sure that kid is sherlock's but i guess i was wrong on that.
Well like she said, the child is too old to be Sherlock's. However, it is possible Mycroft could be the father. Sherlock would probably go nuclear. "So you've slept with Watson and Moriarty now? WTF"
I'm pretty sure Moriarty figured out why Sherlock kept writing her and gave an answer that she knew Sherlock wanted to hear. Watson will probably help him wise up eventually, though.
Is faux-oriaty Emperor Valerian from Starcraft? They sound very similar to me.
I still think that "old friend" of Sherlock who talked to Watson is a villain to be named later...Maybe even the mentor.
Really enjoyed the episode but mainly because it wasn't just a crime of the week and was more story arc
Just finished watching this show from the start to the current episode. Much to my surprise I like it a lot more than BBC's Sherlock. Obviously the difference in format plays a great part (20ish episodes seasons allow for better character development than seasons that span 3 episodes), but the BBC show also tries too hard to be clever and stylish and too often fails on both accounts. The comedy is better on the BBC show though, helped by the timing and delivery of Freeman's Watson and the acerbic wit of Cumberbatch's Holmes. Still, Miller's over the top Holmes is very entertaining and with a surprising range and Liu's Watson works very well (and it's not insulting Freeman than saying I prefer seeing Liu on screen! - Is there a wardrobe Emmy?).
Irene Adler and Mycroft are strong on both shows, but Elementary's take on Moriarty is a lot stronger than the BBC's.
Also agree that the show doesn't have much humor unless its Holmes banging Watson's friends
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Each Sherlock is 88 minutes long and i agree elementary is doing a better job with character development.
Making Moriarty a female and ex-lover does add an interesting dynamic: they're perfect for eachother on one level, but one is evil and a master manipulator.
really enjoyed this season until Watson's left turn in the last few. Thought it was good to see all of Sherlock's changes, as most shows never let happen to their unique characters
funny part about her moving out, i just kept thinking, he pays her enough to afford rent in nyc?
their money is coming from sherlock's father. which the amount has never been disclosed, but both he and mycroft never seem to be hurting for cash so i assume their dad is some kind of billionaire. at one point mycroft told sherlock their dad was going to cut sherlock off if he did not return to england, but it was a ruse.
these last few episodes were kind of a letdown. the season was pretty decent, but the love triangle at the last 3 was fucking annoying. but thats not to say that this didnt happen in the books, watson gets married and starts his own private practice and over the years hooks back up with sherlock to run some cases like the old days. the way they did it heew, everyone ends up butthurt and sherlock joins up with the mi6 which seems out of his character. i hope they can sort this shit out by next season and put an end to this derail and go back to solving cases.
Im still really enjoying the show for crime of the week, also just realized the new chick was in GoTG
They are doing good work with the plots and lines with a good balance between the investigations and the personal lives, Jonny Lee Miller is riveting in the part of Holmes as he delivers a total package (line delivery, posture, movements, facial expressions) that still entertains after 50+ episodes and the duo with Lucy Liu works very well. In this 3rd season I also enjoy the addition of the protegee to revitalize the dynamics and provide a new character to explore. Good show!
i like this show still. i am not very excited about kitty though
I had to be talked into watching this show, but I found I really enjoyed it and ended up binging to catch up to the third season. I usually hate "* of the week" crap, but they keep enough character progression and ongoing storyline in every episode that it's still engaging.
Lucy Liu as Watson actually works really well, they have a great dynamic
Ditto the whole Moriarty/Adler thing, I'm usually pretty good at picking up twists but I didn't see that one coming, and their dynamic is likewise excellent
Main actor is great as Sherlock. Very different take on the character to Cumberbatch, to the point where I don't think they can or should be compared, but he pulls it off pretty well (other than the tattoos, which seem 100% out of character for Holmes, even a modernized, Americanized version).
Too much focus on murders, it gets a bit grim after a while. Surely there can be some cool crimes for Sherlock to solve that don't involve tons of people getting killed?
Sherlock's analytical capacities seem like an informed ability, instead of going into details on the way he sees the world differently from the other people around him, they just have him whine about how much it sucks seeing the world differently than those around him. They show the conclusions he reaches but don't go into detail about how he reaches them.
While they pulled of Watson/Moriadler really well, I really don't like their take on Mycroft. Not sure what bothers me about it, but I hate his character.
Too much focus on the addiction, especially since they take such a strict 12 step AA style philosophy towards it (which is absurdly unrealistic for all but a small minority of addicts, and especially for someone likes Holmes).
The pandering to the American audience. "New York and London are targets for terrorists because they're Bastions of Freedom".... I mean yeah that's somewhat paraphrased, but come on, really? Also the whole thing about Holmes being a text acronym enthusiast.
Watching it on a smaller screen at a distance makes it impossible to read the bloody texts. There's a reason the BBC version would have the texts sprawled/subtitled on the screen.
You'd think with that pro/con ratio I'd be turned off by the series, but I still find myself really enjoying it.
" I wonder if you are destined to be forgotten. Will your life fade in the shadow of greater beings?"
I watch this show for Lucy Liu's legs, which they like to show off a lot.
But seriously, the murder of the week can sometimes be boring that I end up just side watching it while browsing something else on the net like this forum.
Nevertheless still enjoy it quite a lot.
Holy shit, best episode of the series last night. I will freely admit I got all weepy.
I'll miss you, Kitty. I thought you were going to be a lame addition to the show, but if Watson had left instead of you I'd been okay with that.
well they took their sweet ass time to give us her backstory, yeah this 3 parter was pretty good. hopefully kitty comes back, she is looking at what? kidnapping and assault charges? i can see sherlock working his mojo in a courtroom to refute those charges, or something could happen to the serial rapist and there are no charges filed
So apparently John Noble, AKA walter from fringe, is going to be playing his father next season. Noble is fantastic
Hopefully contractual obligations for this will keep him from being on Sleepy Hollow ever again. That show did a full 180 into utter crap in season 2 it was a severe waste of his talent.
John Noble played the colonial guy and his witch wife's son who was born after he was put in deep freeze for 200 years.
It should me mentioned that this show does not reach brilliant territory because it is pretty formulaic, but it is very good. The weekly cases are often clever and tackle interesting subjects in a reasonably smart way and the personal life / case solving balance is good. Add some good dialogues and good performances by the leads (though I find the delivery of the captain very strange) and you get something that is well worth watching.
This last season felt a bit like something you get after a writer's strike. I wouldn't say it wasn't good...it was just off. Every week I expected a story arc to kick off, then it kinda did, then went away, then he's on heroin again.
I could watch Johnny Lee Miller play Sherlock all day long though.
hate that he is using again, next season is probably going to be depressing as hell.
they had several good side stories going, but they all seemed to resolve fairly quickly.
Natalie Dormer's career doesn't seem to be as hot as it was, so maybe Moriarty will start to play a bigger role.
was looking at imdb, it is amazing how few regulars are on the show, once you get passed the main 4
of 72 shows, Kitty 12, the M.E. 8, Mycroft/Alfredo 7 and Moriarty with 6 (think 2 of those were just voice overs)
I agree witb johnny lee miller killing it every episode. If it wasnt for him I wouldnt tune in every week
I love this show for Jonny Lee Miller and Lucy Liu's legs, but the cases are often a bore. I think the problem is that they have to craft relatively elaborate crimes in order to be a challenge for Sherlock. But I suspect they go way over the head of the general viewing audience.
I actually thought Dormer would show up on the show more, I really liked the change with Moriaty on the show.
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