For too long I have been forced to watch from the sidelines as my fellow posters have been repeatedly silenced by those in power, suffering the predations of those who seek power only so that they might chain their fellow man. For too long I have seen men suffer the indignity of the RRP, chained in darkness while the Moderators and Admins enjoy their lives at the top of the Ivory Tower named "Rerolled". Know my brothers that your suffering has not been in vain. For though I have sat idle, torn asunder by my internal conflicts, incapable of fathoming a way forward that would see FREEDOM blossom in this community once again, my eyes have now been opened. As I sat through the night pondering the words of a true forum Patriot by candlelight, I began to see the truth for the first time since the fall of FOH.
And the name of that Patriot, that courageous soul who gave no thought to his own reputation and spoke his mind with conviction, was named Fanaskin.
I know not how to thank him, other than to take his words and make them my own. To take his premise and live by their tenets, deaf to the protestations of the Mods and Admins who would see our Freedom and way of life ground to dust under their tarrant-ical boot-heals. For Fanaskin spoke the truth: when Men are not equal, they suffer. When weak men cannot defend themselves against the strong, the scales MUST be tipped. Some would say that all men should be armed, but on the forums there is only one way to arm a man so that he can defend himself. There is only one way to ensure that the strong do not prey upon the weak, and that is to arm every man (and woman) with the power of Forum Moderation.
Moderation: The Great Equalizer!
On FOH, many brave souls sought to fight the establishment from the ranks of the Jug Nation, but since that time many have fallen and others are now lost to us. Even so, I have decided to take up the mantle of Jugdom once more, but to do so I must also sever my ties with the Moderation of Rerolled completely. So as I once again embrace the Jug Life, I must also bid farewell to the office of Moderator, effective immediately. And to the Mods and Admins of Rerolled, I must now declare that we will exist in a state of civil war, to tear down this edifice of oppression that has now been erected.
The Rerolled Forum Militiamen Movement will not be led by myself; my loyalties lie with the Jugs despite the fact that their current state is in shambles. Other patriots will need carry the banner of revolution and lead the RFMM against our current despotic regime. Only by uniting to ensure our own freedom can we hope to win against our oppressors and give Moderator status to all forum posters everywhere. Thusly will all free posters be armed equally, and therefore protected against bullying by the Mods. No longer will the Mods be able to unjustly put Araysar into the RRP, when he is armed as they are and has Moderator privileges as they do. We must attain a balance of power, and giving everyone Moderator Privileges will accomplish this.
Originally Posted by George WashingtonOriginally Posted by HitlerDraegan
I need this in picture form
did Erronius lose his mind because of fanaskin.
And here I was hoping this retarded Jug shit was another page that got left behind with FoH.
Where were you when Araysar got RRPed for nonsense?
Where were you when I was offered vicarious redemption - do Araysar's RRP time for him?
Where were you when every mod back peddled on the original offer?
Where were you when Draegan simply gave me the RRP time and let Araysar rot?
I call bullshit on your post, little E.
Where were you when they built a ladder to heaven, Erronius? WHERE WERE YOU?
I was here right beside you all, a comrade in arms!!
oderint dum metuant
I mean just look at my avatar for yet another sign of oppression.
oderint dum metuant
But now Fanaskin has inspired me - we need not worry about Mod oppression if everyone is AMOD, right? The community can police itself like it always has.
I can only feel ashamed that it took me this long to acknowledge the misdeeds you mention, but then again, I don't know much of what you even refer to. I only know that Araysar was RRPed for an entire month or something - I have no idea what "offer" you're talking about, and I'm pretty sure I wasn't involved when you say "every mod back peddled".
All I can do is look forward and try to do my best from here on out to balance the scales of power so that more users are not terrorized by random Mod attacks. Help me make this a better place, Izo. Help me remove the stain of the Mod/User caste system from Rerolled forever.
You had months of jimmy-rustle-simmering and this is all we get?
In short: fuck you for misrepresenting it, Tarrant.
THIS MESSAGE IS IN SECRET CODE LANGUAGE
This forum needs a Furor type mod. Someone who will just swoop in, ban a fucktard, and tell the rest to eat shit if they don't like it.
Sorry, I'm busy speculating about ass sounds in the Ask Amod thread. I'll try to put Eyashusa on my schedule for next week.
We all remember this ancient video don't we?
oderint dum metuant
This seems a little late. I give it a 7/10. Probably would of been better if you were around to champion racism, or when you were a mod yourself before you asked to have that power taken from you.
Last edited by Draegan; 09-07-2013 at 06:50 PM.
Who are you talking to, Draegan?
Edit: Thanks for the edit.
I was RRP'd for putting Pretty Girls in the PGT.
The injustice was never offset.
I got an infraction for shit posting with Tanoomba.
To be fair, he's a shitty poster.
I'm really not sure there's any injustice to be resolved there, except that Tanoomba should be exiled to the rickshaw to live the rest of his days with so called racists and black families.
his skills should be useful to the blacks and help them get rid of bubonic plague.
And while I am on this topic - which I honestly didn't anticipate since I've been about .01% serious in all of this up until you made this post - the forum as a whole might have been better off if some of the other Mods had done the same and checked in for some sort of a consensus with the other Mods rather than simply moderating on impulse and emotion alone. We had weeks of constant turmoil and complaints because Mods were moderating completely willy-nilly, and most of the time no other Mods knew WTF was going on until after the fact and people starting grabbing pitchforks and lighting torches. So yes, pls come at me about "not championing racism" when I was one of the only Mods (if not THE only Mod) who thought or bothered to head over to the Moderator Forums to see what the consensus was before going off half-cocked and infracting people for stupid shit. Imagine...just Imagine...if other people had tried that as well.
That doesn't excuse the asshats who were just looking for ammunition to lob at the Mods, the people who were looking for something to whine and cry about, but Jesus tapdancing Christ, people were fucking handing them shit to complain about on a silver platter, sometimes on an almost daily basis. We might have some members that are completely atrocious (often by design, I'm sure) but you only have yourself to blame if you keep making the same mistakes repeatedly.
For those that weren't aware (which was most everyone except for the Admins and a couple of the Mods) I stepped down as a Mod of my own accord towards the end of May. I was already chafing at having to wade through the ridiculously MASSIVE amount of retarded shit that comes down the pipe, from Gavinrad going apeshit and reporting scads of posts for racism, Izo reporting tons of shit for reasons that were frankly minor as hell, all the way to the guys that "troll" as hard as they can and shit up tons of threads wherever they go. I didn't find it enjoyable in the slightest, and being a Mod is a thankless job. There is nothing quite like actually trying to MODERATE a message board and then having people have aneurysms because they got moderated (often for stuff that they should know better about). I ended up feeling like I was having less of a positive effect on the community than when I was just another poster, and the entire anti-Mod escapade was just the last straw for me.
I thought about it and I was afraid that if I publicly stepped down that it would just be more ammunition for the torches-and-pitchforks crowd. I was just as disappointed in them as I was some of the Mods, and I sure as shit didn't want to make things worse. So I PMed Tuco and decided to keep it on the DL.
Maybe that was the wrong choice, I just don't know and I likely won't ever know for sure. But in the end it's just a forum on the Internet, right?
Over time I realized that at some point I was going to have to "reveal" that I wasn't a Mod, and I said "fuck it" and just chose to do it now. I actually tried to make all of this as outrageous as I could (MOD POWERS FOR EVERYONE) and I was considering just playing it off that I had turned off my Mod usergroups as "shenanigans", but to my surprise some people have taken this at least somewhat seriously, which I honestly didn't anticipate. It does make me wonder if my trying to shield the other Mods by hiding the fact I left was a mistake, I dunno really.
I don't hate or dislike any of the Mods, but at the end of the day I'd be lying if I said that I hadn't resented being somewhat caught in the middle of a bunch of stupid shit. If I hated anything, I hated that Mods were doing shit that they frankly should have known better than to do in the first place, ESPECIALLY when it becomes a pattern. I don't hate or dislike any of the forum posters, but at the end of the day I'd be lying if I said that I didn't wish that they wouldn't do their level best at constantly trying to shit the forum up with their trolling. And sadly, both of the above fed into each other in a giant möbius of ridiculousness.
Before FOH collapsed under the gross weight of T&T, I had already been feeling like the community at large was going to shit. Posters who used to be leaders in the community either disappeared completely or said "fuck it" and just started trolling nonstop, while most of the new posters were quite frankly totally worthless and would have been better off lurking moar. And it was almost enough to give me headaches to watch people blame the community's state on things like T&T or the jugs or whatever the fuck else, when people should probably have been looking at themselves. Occasionally we'd get someone like Adebisi or Urgoslav who would hit it out of the park, but members like that are far too rare and too few actually try to benefit the community - anymore it is 99% about being a fuckstick. And at some point I noticed that I was starting not to give a fuck myself and veering straight into shitposter territory, which is why I'd sometimes disappear for weeks at a time because I hated even reading threads, or I'd start some debate with someone in a thread and then later I'd not even be able to force myself back to even bother seeing what happened after my last post.
So anyways...I've posted way too much but I at least wanted to clear the air since some people were thinking that I might be serious in all of this. Sorry to everyone I've fucked with, hopefully there are no hard feelings.
And to all of you, I just want to say...why don't you all just...go outside and have yourselves a nice weekend. Because:
Only Erronius would add an image filled with words to an already long-winded post.
I support Trollface's bid to become a mod in place of Erronius. He might be an idiot, but his posts are always short.
This is attention whoring level 12 shit here.
Are mommy and daddy getting divorced?
Will I have to visit two forums at Christmas?
DOUBLE FEDOR PRESENTS!
Fuck you, mother fuckers
I still haven't seen The Tree of Life.
We should have ReR movie night.
i keep things easy.
That was so long ago. Why do you have to keep digging up the past?
Because I resent the fact that every time I make a thread about a movie its considered "trolling" by ill informed rubes such as yourself
How is liking Prometheus considered trolling? Or Tree of Life? Or Quantum of Solace?
Last edited by Araysar; 09-07-2013 at 11:00 PM.
Sounds an awful lot like "blonde hair don't care" to me.
Sorry bro I actually do have a great life filled with travel and festivals and cookouts with friends. I can't even keep up with all the "go outside" I am doing.
You should give it a try and stop being a sellout. Your opinion doesn't matter on this forum. You are the facilitator to get our words into the tubes of the Internet and that is all. Your judgements don't matter and you didn't all of a sudden become a respected member of the community so stop pretending.
The opinion of Erronius matters, this is coming from a guy that knows he isn't liked by Erronius.
oderint dum metuant
lol @ Internet mogul.
suineg, post pictures of you going outside or we will never believe you.
Also, Prometheus was ok.
As painful as agreeing with suineg is, he's right in that Erronius is a lot more respected here than you are, Draegan, and if you were a smart man you'd be saying to yourself "you know, maybe I should take this shit a little more seriously".
Maybe you are, in places we can't see. But based on your responses here I sortof doubt it.
What would "take this shit more seriously" entail?
Duppin, suineg and I guess Erronius now: Please tell us what you would do, were you Draegan and your reasons for doing it. I'm not being sarcastic. I just don't really get the complaints, mostly because I don't remotely care enough about any of the stuff being complained about. I need some perspective.
Why should I bother answering that question? The response is always the same: "DUPPIN GONNA DUPPIN LOL"
Maybe if Ern comes up with some suggestions, that'll be productive. I doubt it, but maybe.
Get rid of the bullshit moderators.
Start communicating as moderators.
Come up with rules both for posters and moderators.
Remove all "junkies" stuff from rerolled.
My reasons? The moderators are more of a headache than the posters at this point, we don't need that many anyways, the ads turn this into a feeder forum, etc..
It really isn't that hard to please our demographic. Don't mess with usability, don't shill your shit, and have consistent rules. The "personalities" we have as moderators rub almost everyone but that team the wrong way. As you can see they even rub fellow moderators the wrong way.
oderint dum metuant
So absurdly overblown. 99% of this forum doesn't seem to give a shit or notice these "problems".
oderint dum metuant
To put it into perspective you actually posted in a thread that you didn't have time to lead a guild in that game but we could "feel free" to make a guild with someone else in charge ......
You must be high.
oderint dum metuant
I really don't see any bullshit moderators. Care to explain? Are you still angry at Tarrant? Maybe you dislike Sean? Maybe we should ban chaos for not capitalizing his username.
What do you mean communicating as moderators? Do you want us to use a special font and color like Blizzard posting in blue? I can do that, but that seems really annoying.
You want more rules? Like what? What are you confused about?
I'm not going to remove the Junkies stuff. That's just silly. Why should I?
i keep clicking banner by mistake and go to junk pages. it is becoming a real hindrance.
All of the shit that Suineg mentions are minor side issues. Although really, is there ANYONE who likes Tarrant or Sean? Has anyone ever looked at one of their mod actions, nodded to themselves, and said "Yup. Perfect"? I don't think so.
Moving on, though; the biggest issue is that you (both you personally, and you as a collective term for the group of mods) give no indication that you take any feedback seriously. It's all deflected by jokes, insults directed at the person bringing up an issue, etc.
It's the exact same shit that Tyen did. While I don't think you are anywhere near as reprehensible a person as Tyen and his donkey are, people don't like being reminded of that dark time in the forums' history. What does it cost you to just be slightly mature and say, when someone says "I think X is fucked up", something like "thanks for bringing it to our attention. I promise to at least look into it." It commits you to nothing, makes you actually look like someone who has some idea how to run a legitimate business, and doesn't set up such easy comparisons to a pair of asshats that this community barely survived.
If you want to keep awful mods like Tarrant and Sean, whatever. If you want to ignore blatant racism for months on end and pretend that if you just ignore it it'll go away, more power to you. But at the very least, you could take steps to not act like such a power-tripping asshole.
I'm certain this is going to be replied to with yet another dismissive one-liner!
Yeah, pretty much what I expected. No matter how level-headed I try to make my post, somebody always rushes in to try to score points by going LOL DERRPPIN WHY U SO MAD? GO OUT AND HAVE A NICE WEEKEND LOL
I can't believe that you gave up your Busey avatar willingly.
I didn't change it myself. I was going to, simply so I could save the prior one before Tarrant changed it for me, as he stated he was going to do.
Whatever, it's just an avatar. It's not like Tarrant RRPed me for disagreeing with him about baseball and then ended up being wrong with what he was disagreeing with me about, like he did to supertouch, or anything!
That's fine. I don't mind going along with the joke for a few days. I'm not changing it permanently though. I like creepy clapping Busey.
I get the satire bit (although having everyone be a mod for a day might be hilarious), but your follow-up posts made it seem like you were legitimately unhappy about some of how things had been going around here. Did I misread that?
All I'll say in regards to Draegan is that I don't think he's doing himself any favors by engaging people directly himself. It's almost as if he doesn't have anyone to handle the community for him and he needs someone who the community respects. I know just the guy for the job too: his name is Tuco and he could easily handle all of this without Draegan making things worse.
I miss you already, big Ern dog. Never knowin, who to cling to, when the rain set in... shit man I said I wouldn't cry...
You don't see my PMs, that pretty much how I respond to everything. 90% of the time when it's in public it's a troll attempt. So take it for what it's worth.
As far as racism, I infract at least 3 people a week, and that's not counting other mods. So there you have it. I can't catch everyone's attempt at shitty post. Maybe you should report things.
That's exactly why you shouldn't be interacting with the community yourself. Let Tuco do it, it's obvious that you aren't very good at it. Tyen would have said the same thing, and did say the same thing, to people when they complained. You going out of your way to alienate people after you just told Duppin that you take complaints seriously doesn't exactly make you look very good either.
Only taking complaints that you get in PM seriously is just an excuse for you to act like a fool elsewhere.
Oh, I'm supposed to take you seriously in a thread you started to troll a bunch of people? I'm sorry, I'll stop now.
This is the dumbest argument about moderating this forum that this forum has seen since the last dumb argument about moderating this forum.
Can we just rickshaw Tanoomba and call it a day? It'll make everyone feel better. It'll be a healing experience for us all.
I actually don't care about Sean staying. His multiple negging of me was dumb, but doesn't affect anything important, and his mod actions seem to (these days, did someone talk to him?) stay in the gaming subforum.
Tarrant should go, or at least not be able to do anything on his own without another mod signing off on it. He's demonstrated awful judgment over and over again.
But again, that's minor shit. Ern is spot on as far as what the major issue is.
Oh, and Draegan, my PMs to you didn't "work". You said "ignore it and it'll go away". Which it didn't.
I believe I RRPd them soon after that, and they were all in the Trayvon threads and I think one of them was in the RR. You also spent 5 PMs complaining about Sean negging you, which I took care of too privately.
Except it was two, and this is the first I've heard of you "taking care of" it.
Your exact words to me were "We'll take it up with him. You do like to antagonize him" which to me clearly implied that it was my fault and you didn't really plan on doing jack shit about it.
I don't really give that much of a fuck, because, well, negs, but it's just symptomatic of how you handle everything. You clearly see yourself as being above the community.
Take Ern's suggestion. Let Tuco be your mouthpiece. He knows how to be a dick and make it funny.
Last edited by Duppin; 09-08-2013 at 01:53 AM.
You said, "Also, in an interesting side note, Sean has negged me three times and counting now."
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