Vin Diesel is in talks to be the voice of Groot.
Vin Diesel is in talks to be the voice of Groot.
I just don't know how you pull the raccoon off in a live action movie without the whole thing coming across as some bad joke.
Is anyone else getting a tongue-in-cheek vibe from that video? That concerns me a little, but maybe I'm just interpreting it wrong.
I'm getting a vaporware vibe.
One year from release and that's the best they can show us.
August 2016 is a more likely release date.
you missed this Fedor
and Rocket is there and looks his badass self. All is good in the galaxy
EDIT - can any of you english ppl write what Rocket says ? i can't fully understand it
Last edited by fucker; 08-13-2013 at 10:30 AM.
oh...there is change in the voice and i thought it was rocket talking. video is so bad his lips seems to be moving
what the guy says anyway ?
There's a lot of humor to the series so I'm not bothered by the tone, but why the hell is Dave Bautista playing Drax?
Because you don't need a shakespearian actor to play a big muscular warrior, who most likely will only have like 5 lines anyways. The movie is supposed to be tongue in cheek, heck the comics were just like that. What else do you expect from a movie with a badass raccoon. I am seriously looking forward to it, since they have pretty much sll the infinity gems owners in it from Thanos Quest. I guess the gems are going to play a big part in it, and to some extent Thanos.
The Rock would have been a better choice for Drax.
The rock would have cost a lot more than Bautista, plus I remember drax being more of just a thug back when I read comics.
keeps getting taken down and moved.. so if it's gone when you watch this, not my fault
I get that the comic is tongue in cheek, but I'm really not so sure that it is going to work as well for them as they are hoping in what will undoubtedly be anticipated as a major blockbuster movie like all the others by Marvel have been. I'm sure I'll enjoy it, but I'm not sure how the average moviegoer will feel about it. I'd love to be wrong though.
I'm sort of disappointed with the choice of Zoe Saldana for Gamora. I'm not a big fan of Zoe's, but always liked Gamora, so I'm hoping it doesn't bother me too much. At least I can console myself with the knowledge that it isn't Michelle Rodriguez. *shudder*
imo, i think this is gonna suck...
guardians of the galaxy has always been a B grade comic imo, until they did the annihilation story in 05, which basically took another B grade character Nova, and made him cool. They didn't just pump up his power level from 5 to 110, they made him grow and mature, and he had to do this with his general/advisor peter quill(star lord), and peter quill relizes he's gotta protect the galaxy. during all this we see a reborn drax, who isn't a dumb brute, but a physical fighter, and just destroys, he is carried along and given a personality by the way of cammi, some blond girl he mistook for his daughter (Moondragon the bald lesbian telepath).
through all this he's just living, and protecting cammi until finally after 30 years
Then quill forms the guardians with this cast
my favorite version, before they started to add some time displaced cpt america(general victory or whatever)
then they just said, fck it... this is the new guardians of the galaxy, everyone is dead anyway
and now... i guess they want to try to make a movie out of this... i'm guessing because 2 of the main guardians have direct ties with thanos
gamora and drax
this is how the guardians look now
yea that's iron man, they have him flying through space for fun
maybe it's cuz i don't like the way the comics are being retconned and rewritten for films, or maybe it's cuz they pick such B grade actors. I mean vin diesal is actually a veteran actor, and his only like is "i am groot". drax is played by a dumb wrestler... who was terrible in that terrible man with iron fist movie, all he did was just walk around looking mad. gamora is an alien... so i guess zoe saldana just pops into ppls brains when they think they need an alien girl, i do agree tho, at least it's not michelle rodriguez.
the best they can do is just focus on rocket raccoon and maybe he'll steal the show.
i mean really, the reborn guardians with peter quill/mantis/phyla/drax/gamora/rocket and groot almost had a Serenity kind of feel to it, but this is all bleh.
Rocket Raccoon in the Marvel Heroes game sounds like he has an Australian accent. Whatever that is worth.
So for me personally its Dan Abnett's writing on Guardians of the Galaxy that kicks ass. If Bendis can ever stop making everything he writes a variation on Spiderman I might be more impressed.
dan also did the authority before the merge, his team was solid.
Really, I guess I missed that and stopped reading Authority when Ellis left. I think Millar replaced him... who I basically loathe.
dans story was great, it was the wildstorm end, so they had the carrier crashed and dead, since the world is dead, cities are dead, so jack is in a wheelchair and dying, angies nanites are barely functioning, the doctor is gone, jenny blew up and the world is so tainted apollo has to orbit the sun or die. So it's just midnighter and swift corralling the rest of the world that's alive and not infected with some zombie disease into the carrier. with all this you see that midnighter can only signal apollo by using the last few tanks of hellium left and blow up some balloons hoping he'd see them.
his arc lasted a while... then someone else took over and it just seemed like a mad dash to "end" wildstorm so that it could merge with DC.
btw since we're mentioning authority (or rather i did) Planetary... now that's a story/superhero team.
I have no idea who the hell was the idiot who chose to put tony stark in them, because without Star Lord it's much worse
Hell, i still have to read how and why Drax is alive, considering he was incinerated by Thanos. I understand resurrections happend every week in marvel comics, but they usually they make the efford to give a reason for that. Drax? nope, he's just there and no reference to his death is made
i'm sure it's all a strategy move to use the Ironman current popularity (thanks to the movies) to boost GotG in preparation of this GotG movie
if you ignore the current GotG, and read them during Thanos Imperative.....personally i found them much better than 90% of mainsteam comics going around
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yeah. Annihilation wave, GotG vol2, to Thanos Imperative is basically the definitive GotG.
yes for those of us that read the 05 annihilation awesomeness, this is who we think of when we see peter quill/star lord
i don't know why they changed him to some blond guy, i guess he has to be a pretty boy for the girls.
and yes they have to put iron man in the comics to let some of that iron man audience bleed into GotG, oh he also decides to sleep with gamora and pepper is long forgotten. (pepper was a forced relationship anyway for the movies, she was always supposed to be with Happy, jon favrau)
and drax is alive... because fck it, he's drax, that's literally the reason, it is totally unexplained same thing with starlord
this is what happend
thanosimperative6 - heroes.jpg
for many of us, we're like wow... they built up nova prime and starlord for 7 years only to kill them... not bad, i'll take it, it was probably the best story arcs marvel has ever had, and they bring him back, cause a raccoon can't be the leader.
man. dont post spoilers in a thread, where people are clearly saying, "I have not read this material, what should I read?"
Hair color in comics is.... nebulous. Eye color is even worse. its rarely clearly stated in any script or design doc. And often flip flops. especially in older days.
Hawkeye's hair for example is red or blond. Different authors have shown different colors. Wiki says blond. I have been specifically asked to make him a redhead at times. Tieing into Jeremy Renner/movie? dunno.
Peter was blond in the original comics though.
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They are really scraping the bottom of the barrel now
To the contrary, if this does reasonably well I think this serves as a test and opens up a bunch of space related stuff, probably another cartoon, etc. All about how they execute, Green Lantern could have done the same for the DC cinematic universe.
Before the Thor and Captain America movies I'd have said Guardians of the Galaxy was a preposterous idea for a movie. Now, however, I'm willing to give Marvel the benefit of the doubt that they can pull this off.
That said, I won't be surprised if this fails horribly. Marvel has been on such an insane run of hit movies that they're about due for a collosal flop.
i will skip guardians of the galaxy pre 2005, because they were shit, there were the west coast avengers or the mississippi avengers, just crap.
but i have to preface this with the whole "marvel event"
there were 2 super major stories going on mid 2000.
1. was the story at home
2. the story in space
1. you might have heard was about the civil-war, forced registration of super-heroes, then iron man (and govt) vs. capt america (and friends), in the end all it amounted to was some black guy died... no seriously (goliath).
this event is tiny, when compared to the galactic and i do mean galactic event that is happening in space.
richard rider, formerly of "the new warriors" and just a guy that flies and shoots beams, is back at his galactic police forces homeworld xandar, they are basically the green lantern corps. While richard rider (we'll call him nova) is not the lowliest guy, he does ok, and is just a mid 20's kid by now that does the usual stupid things and choices a 20ish year old makes (this is his character so far). remember xandar and the nova corps are like the "green lantern corps" they are the galaxys police force and like the green power battery that gives a tiny bit of power to every green lantern, the xandar worldmind, gives a little bit of power to every nova corps.
Then, the "annihilation wave", simply put nova is on a floating rock, that used to be xandar, the galactic police force is destroyed in 1 swoop, and now we see Nova's story.
why am i so focused on Nova? because through nova we see the formation of the GotG, we see the relationships Nova built up transferred to the GotG, Nova not only re-booted himself from Grade B whiny teenager to Better than Iron Man, by proxy he rebooted GotG from a sliced together team with no character to this iteration that has a history of teamwork and survival.
in that regard i'll post some amazon links
i'm pretty sure this 3 book series contains
Drax The Destroyer: Earthfall
Annihilation: Silver Surfer
Annihilation: Super Skrull
Annihilation: Heralds of Galactus
(my nephew has borrowed my collection for years... it might as well just be his, i have no reference)
this is all prequel stuff up until this point, NOW we have GoTG volume 2 (again volume 1 was the dorky 70's to 90's version)
that could be it for you, if you want you could still read more GotG, but... you'd have to know the "war of kings" storyline which i'll explain but is also HIGHLY! involved and involves the "3rd ###mers brother"
i don't know anyone that even likes GotG pre 2005, this movie is most def gonna be based and we see it, on the 2005 post annihilation team.
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(this is pre- relaunch of GotG, with the new team.)
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Ianx pretty much said it all. Both Nova and the GotG have been uplifted from a sub-secondary characters in the marvel comics, to very important and developed characters.
at the end of Thanos Imperative Starl
Last edited by fucker; 08-20-2013 at 01:55 PM.
For that matter I know close to nothing about this team. All I really remember is Nova from
X-Forcea Spider-Man crossover way back in the day when I actually collected comics. What is the required reading that will give me a giant space boner for this movie?
edit I guess he wasn't ever in X-Force, stupid old man memory
Last edited by Arakkis; 08-20-2013 at 06:13 PM.
yea posting amazon links so you get an "idea" of what to look for, the paperback version is pretty affordable vs hardcover tho.
the graphic that caliane posted is very useful as well, as i said before imo, the first 2 saga's will let you get a "wow this is a solid team", i mean imo GotG 2005 is more of a solid team than any incarnation of Avengers, hell every other issue of avengers is...
tony: "captn america, you too old and stupid i'm rich!"
cap: "fck you tony, pow"
ant man: "wait guys, my robot child ultron 3434343 is coming back to town!"
thor: "metal man isn't a frost giant, derrr"
quick google got me this list
1. ANNIHILATION (2004-2007)
Drax the Destroyer #1
Drax the Destroyer #2
Drax the Destroyer #3
Drax the Destroyer #4
Annihilation: Nova #1
Annihilation: Nova #2
Annihilation: Nova #3
Annihilation: Nova #4
Annihilation: Silver Surfer #1
Annihilation: Silver Surfer #2
Annihilation: Silver Surfer #3
Annihilation: Silver Surfer #4
Annihilation: Super-Skrull #1
Annihilation: Super-Skrull #2
Annihilation: Super-Skrull #3
Annihilation: Super-Skrull #4
Annihilation: Ronan #1
Annihilation: Ronan #2
Annihilation: Ronan #3
Annihilation: Ronan #4
Annihilation: The Nova Corps Files
Annihilation: Heralds of Galactus #1
Annihilation: Heralds of Galactus #2
ANNIHILATION: CONQUEST (2007-2008)
Annihilation: Conquest Prologue
Annihilation: Conquest - Quasar #01
Annihilation: Conquest - Quasar #02
Annihilation: Conquest - Quasar #03
Annihilation: Conquest - Quasar #04
Annihilation: Conquest - Star-Lord #01
Annihilation: Conquest - Star-Lord #02
Annihilation: Conquest - Star-Lord #03
Annihilation: Conquest - Star-Lord #04
Annihilation: Conquest - Wraith #01
Annihilation: Conquest - Wraith #02
Annihilation: Conquest - Wraith #03
Annihilation: Conquest - Wraith #04
Nova v4 #04
Nova v4 #05
Nova v4 #06
Nova v4 #07
Annihilation: Conquest #01
Annihilation: Conquest #02
Annihilation: Conquest #03
Annihilation: Conquest #04
Annihilation: Conquest #05
Annihilation: Conquest #06
past that is the war of kings saga, and really star lord and nova start to ween off of the stories. but no actually for real media, there isn't anything cheaper than bound volumes or you can just use the above advice and "search".
I'm kind of attached to the UMVC3 voice actor of Rocket Raccoon, Greg Ellis.
I saw a tweet a week ago that said this:
"DC/WB say, wonder woman will be too difficult to explain to movie audience.
Marvel/Disney say, here's a raccoon with a machinegun!"
Anyways. People saying marvel is scraping the barrel have no clue wtf they are saying. Iron man was not a top tier superhero when they made iron man 1. Next to this little problem, how do you explain Thanos to movie goers? By taking a marvel team into space. First you introduce Thor, to show there are different realms, therefor taking the world outside the earthly boundaries. Then you introduce aliens in the avengers, to show there is life outside earth, with a small glimpse of maybe the most impressive badguy in the marvel universe. A villain that goes so far he scared the everliving crap out of galactus.
Anyways, now you have to take the space thing to a whole new level. Stay as far away from earth as possible, and not gloriously fuck up like green lantern did, showing the awesomeness of outer space, and then move 3/4th of the movie to earth.
Guardians of the galaxy are perfect for that. Not only because they are, like the avengers, a ragtag thrown together group of "people" who originally have no business being a team, but also because of direct ties to Thanos. Seeing as they use the collector, and a couple of ancients in this movie, makes me believe they are going to tie in the Thanos Quest, the prelude to the infinity gauntlet, where Thanos goes to find the infinity gems. We will also most likely learn that the tesseract is only a fragment of power of an infinity gem. This will all come to fruition in avengers 3, where the main villain, and only villain is Thanos.
People have been predicting the downfall of superhero movies for years, and they only get bigger and better. They are among the highest grossing movies ever. In a time of reboots and claims of movie studios not taking risks, this movie is a telltale sign that once again marvel has the solid brass balls to do something outrageous, like, you know, setting up a movie about a superhero team by making 5 movies about the separate heroes, intertwining little and more obvious details to result in a movie that made disney forget all about the klunkers they had with tron legacy and john carter.
And stop complaining about Zoe Saldana, ever saw her in a fight scene? I will take that over "she looks exactly like the comic book character, who are drawn so fuking anatomically incorrect, they could only be played by bodybuilding pornstars.
Last edited by Sceleris; 08-22-2013 at 06:27 PM.
zoe saldana in that boring columbinaa movie or whatever was boring... speaking about that i'd rather see that ex mma fighter gina carina? or whatever the one from haywire just don't give her a speaking part... her acting is atrocious.
i've never played umvc but here's a youtube of rocket racoon and the voice actor
besides the crappy hangover movies, he's done silver linings playbook/limitless, so yea he was actually really good in silver linings, and no homo but he looks damn good, most girls i know put him as like top 3 super bang material, he looks so good, why isn't his most valuable asset, his face in the movie? he could probably bring the character to life.
Your analysis of what Marvel is doing is great, and probably mostly on point, but I'm just a little worried that people that know nothing about comics will be expecting something similar to the other movies, and it may not be as well received if they make it a lot more tongue-in-cheek. I don't think it will fail by any means, and I don't think that it spells the death of comic book movies either, but the public is very much of the "what have you done for me lately" mindset as we all know, so any significant dip in how well it is received will at least affect future movies somewhat.
We don't have much to go on yet, obviously, so any real speculation is premature. But that's what we do here on the internet, argue with little or no evidence to stand on!
On a completely different topic, PM me if you are interested in the comics shown on that "Cosmic Marvel" reading list a few pages back, and can't find them somewhere like the Bay of Pirates yourself.
But i think zoe saldana will be just like a johansson, just look pretty, but worthless in the end... which is totally opposite what Gamora is, galaxies deadlist woman?
I don't even think that Saldana is that hot tbh. She's just been in a bunch of 'nerd films' so she got picked to be in it.
it's my opinion that thanos will either be the main plot of guardians of the galaxy or a lead in with avengers, it's evident in the comic releases. For marvel cosmic stories i'm sure we can all say the infinity guantlet was one of the best (infinity watch/crusade... bleh like all spin offs), centered around them is thanos, just like the main cast of guardians of the galaxy. There hasn't really been a "backstory" to thanos, just his title should be enough "thanos the mad titan". A 5 issue series just finished call "thanos rising", it finally goes into thanos' backstory and if any of you know thanos you know "death". you can all google the usual "thanos rising 1 - 5" and you know do that...
Thanos is also tying into the current guardians of the galaxy storyline along with "hunger", Hunger is a developing storyline, basically all this cosmic shit is destroying the galaxy and introducing tears in space, so much so that our galactus (616) goes into the Ultimate universe, meets that universes galactus (galak' tus? spelling) and basically is now Galactusx2.
so if you guys really want to know about the guardians of the galaxy, you'll need a few bits.
infinity gauntlet (first biggest crossover and you get to know thanos)
annihilation/conquest (the best cosmic story imo, and involves thanos)
guardians of the galaxy volume 2
thanos rising (expands on thanos origins)
The Thanos storyline ( I think it was just called Thanos) was pretty good, where he's basically the hero of the story, as much as Thanos can be. Such a sweet ass character, hope they don't ruin him making him retard cackling evil instead of just a sociopath on a mission.
Infinity Gauntlet was probably THE defining comic book event of my comic book history. That story just blew my 10-12 year old mind in so many ways. There are so many iconic scenes in that series.
I haven't been able to find a good reading order for pre-Annihilation cosmic stuff (Infinity Wars, Gauntlet, Death of Captain Marvel, Warlock, etc.). I read most of them back in the day, but I want to read them again now that we're talking about it. Anyone have one as definitive as that graphic for the Annihilation stuff?
Some Warlock stuff predates Death of Captain Marvel, which predates the rest of that stuff.
Infinity gauntlet is before more recent Warlock stuff and before any Infinity war stuff.
"Well, that was it. But I won't stop. I won't give up. Because when I look at what is happening in the world, I know that now, more than ever, ...we need to be all that we can be. Now, more than ever, ...we need the Jedi."
I know someone from FoH had a google docs page or something similar that tracked what they felt was the best order to read different arcs in, like X-Men stuff, Avengers, etc. No idea if it had any of the stuff I'm looking for on it, but I'd love to find it again. I know I kept it somewhere, I just need to find it again (and hope it is still there).
EDIT: Found it within minutes of actually posting, of course. This would be more appropriate in the comics thread I know, but since it has been discussed here, I'll go ahead and leave it here.
I have no idea who this belongs to, so I can't take credit for any of it. It also doesn't have any of the older stuff I'm looking for, unfortunately, but since I found it I'll go ahead and link it in case anyone else finds it useful: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...COa5zKIL#gid=0
Also, from that spreadsheet they had linked this wiki page, which might be useful in general to people looking for stuff to read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...Universe#2000s
Last edited by Void; 08-30-2013 at 07:54 PM.
I am just so shocked at Zoe Saldana. I remember seeing her first film (Center Stage) and could've sworn she had done something else. Nope. What a career she has had in only 14 years. Amazing.
Sad about Cooper. I really liked the UMVC3 voice for Rocket Raccoon.
Man she looks weird in that photo, hope it looks better in motion.
Glamora is supposed to be hot
What trailer? official one doesn't come out till tomorrow.
That other one is very old
what the shit, rocket is the ONLY one that looks good, a damn cgi bradly cooper has to carry this movie! wheres the sixpack on drax? he just looks rotund and they give him boot knives?, da fuck there are at least 3 comic shots of him drawing them from his back.
fuck there's a toy that looks better
Yeah, boot knives are probly not the best place to put your primary weapons, but deploying knives from your back is the worst idea ever.
You want them on your Hip, or front for the fast deploy. They may have a Sayoc Kali consultant on set because they regularly work with big movies.
I just realized what Gamora reminded me of.
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I think they all look great, but I have no idea how they're supposed to look. I have a feeling my lack of knowledge regarding these characters and stories is going to increase my enjoyment of this movie exponentially.
Looks strange as hell, hopefully it has a good story.
The longer trailer is out tonight.
I think getting rid of someones eyebrows is a bad move on a character that is supposed to be the Hot ass alien chick..
Last edited by Column; 02-18-2014 at 03:35 PM.
Some of it is to avoid just looking like a green painted human or one of the green star trek girls.
why she doesnt have the yellow racoon markings I have no idea. would seem to be a no brainer there.
That was it? 15 seconds? Pffffttttttttt
Lets all keep in mind that this is one of the most obscure properties that Marvel could have chosen to go the full cinematic route. As such we should be rather surprised they have been as faithful to the source material as they have so far.
Ok, that was worth waiting for
Though I'm still wondering what Rocket will sound like.
Last edited by Zhaun; 02-19-2014 at 05:07 AM.
Looks good. At 1:58/59 looks like someone is picking up and holding up Drax. But it does not look like Thanos.
1:59 is the collector, 1:58/9 is someone else who may or may not be Ronan.
Last edited by Column; 02-19-2014 at 05:34 AM.
Awesome. Looks like they're going with the right vibe here. Can't wait to give marvel some more of my money.
I am hoping this allows them to lead into Adam Warlock or maybe even Beta Ray Bill. I just really like the cosmic power level Marvel characters more than the earth bound ones. Knowing it will be 2018 or later before we are really seeing them fight Thanos for a whole movie sucks, but if they can keep growing the movies like this... Yea Marvel is just printing money at this point with these movies.
This looks pretty damn good. Will definitely see it in the theaters.
Anyone read the criminal records on them?
Looks like Rocket's girl ,Lylla will be in the film. That first Rocket mini series was awesome that came out in the 80's. was drawn By Mike"Hellboy" mignolia
Love that trailer.
Marvel was quoted as saying they plan to make multiple Hulk films so I really think they are building up to the Planet Hulk storyline, and what a good place to introduce Beta Ray. Silver surfer was replaced by him in the animated version.
Last edited by Column; 02-19-2014 at 09:09 AM.
why do the nova corp look like dorks!, and why do they need freaking centurians to process criminals? (they had 3 stars on their chest, the higest rank, you'd think they'd get a 1 star to process criminals)
blue girl is probably nebula, i'm guessing (thanos' grand-daughter/fake? i forget) she was the skellie in infinity gauntlet.
yea, that is 99% ronan holding up drax.
1. that's a big fucking hammer he's holding (trademark universal weapon)
2. he wears a cape
3. he's picking up drax!
the one who plays star-lord i am disappoint(did he sound funny to anyone?), i'm am banking this whole series on rocket, rocket has the best lines, and bradley cooper, sure why not.
aaannnddd just like that we have the Guardians of the Galaxy taking over the Fantastic Four's role in 'cosmic' type adventures for the greater movie going populace. If they manage to pull this off, which I feel somewhat confident now that they will. This is by far the riskiest move in the Marvel Movieverse phase 2.
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