Can't wait, this is ballers
A few more scenes:
Coming in September 2013
Can't wait, this is ballers
A few more scenes:
Is it just me or do I want that announcer giving play by play in all sports I watch from now on.
Been waiting for this ever since the show got renewed. Such an awesome series.
Haven't looked it up since the first season, but I think there will only be 3 books to the series and it's over. Sad really, as this show is excellent.
Wow, the animation quality in that trailer looks even better than the first season. Unbelievable.
This series has no business airing on Nickelodeon. What the fuck is wrong with this world?
First season had plotting issues but going forward I trust they'll have their shit together again. Awesome show, could not recommend more highly to fans of anime.
Last edited by Himeo; 07-20-2013 at 05:34 AM.
“Men and women are made for each other, but their mutual dependence differs in degrees; man is dependent on woman through his desires; woman is dependent on man through her desires and also through her needs; he could do without her better than she can do without him. She cannot fulfill her purpose in life without his aid, without his goodwill, without his respect... Nature herself has decreed that woman, both for herself and her children, should be at the mercy of man's judgment.”
Full music from the S2 trailer
Wow, that music in the first video is fantastic. Love the instrumental.
Ni kidding, that was some seriously powerful stuff. Only a few more weeks/months until the itch can be scratched.
Been rewatching the first season on BluRay and while I know the original premise of the show was one-and-done after the disaster of the motion picture (which had NO business ever being made) because there was little confidence in the brand... but there are clearly some big hooks placed in the narrative.
They could have been conservative and made a series about a new female avatar slowly learning the other 3 elements and then facing some global threat, but they changed it up by making her nearly done with training and the whole Roaring 20s / steampunk nature of Republic City. Sure the plot with Amon was to show a big bad, but it really dredges up the whole notion of discrimination in asking what the nonbending populace thinks about benders.
Then you have the central question of the origins of bending and the whole spiritual world which we touch on some in the final season of the original series and which seems to be the entire focus of this upcoming season. In many ways they are picking up elements of the original story and running with it rather than doing the safe and easy thing.
Finally there is something up with Mako and Bolin. Brothers who have two different bending alignments and sons of parents who left them when they were very young... now we have this whole prequel series about the two of them as youngsters. Something aint quite right with those two.
Prequel? I thought S2 was just a straight up sequel.
Just a reminder, but season 2 starts this Friday at 7pm.
i know what i am doing at 7pm eastern tomorrow night
channel 825 on my plasma in the living room
Interesting opening. The creepy girlfriend is pretty funny.
i called that he was the bad guy the second i saw that the was the "only" one to be able to control the dark spirit.
he- north tribe brother is the one that ruined the northern forest thingy to take power/frame korra's dad.
2 korra shouldn't have opened that portal...
3- not sure about the air bender girl, my guess is she was the reincarnation of the -very- first avatar or something like that and that she is the one that sealed that portal initially, and upon doing that the spirits granted her the avatar power which she passed onto her child who was the first "official" avatar that korra is reincarnated from...
or i am way off base.
good episode either way.
avatar going full on political drama.
korra is still a bitch. mako must be one of the worst fanservice character alive, on par with fucking shoujo shit.
still good though. the world is rich and story is unfolding nicely. gold.
ok finally caught up.
tonite's episode(s) were great. the origin of the Avatar.
Ya, I liked the hour of lore. It had a pretty strong Princess Mononoke/Spirited Away vibe to it.
This is some of the best TV animation I have seen in a while and it avoids most of the dumb clichés associated with kids TV. I was afraid that they would have problems with power creep after the end of last season, but so far they managed to avoid that very well, simply by making everyone a potential threat.
FINALLY they show us more than just the last 3-4 previous Avatars. It was awesome getting to see the first one and I thought they did him justice. Excellent, excellent.
Yeah the two parter was pretty much a standalone movie of its own, but it really fleshes out the whole notion of the Avatar.
What is striking is how different the world is in Wan's time and what this could mean in terms of how the world might change following this upcoming harmonic convergence. We already know that with Republic city and the advent of technology plus the very advanced use of bending (Metal bending, blood bending, lightning bending etc all being rather common) that the Avatar world is entering into a new era, but this may cement the whole concept in a very metaphysical way.
I have to guess that Jinora is going to factor into things in a big way as well down the line, but other than the fact that there are still only 4 air benders in the world I'm not quite sure how.
Silly question but did the wan story just retcon how bending came about? In the original series air was taught by air bison, earth by those mole things fire by dragon's, not sure water. Wan story has each lion turtle controlling a style.
Then the lion turtles kicked them out and the only ones that retained their fire got wiped out. So they'll have to start fresh basically.
They avoided using the term bending in the flash back, calling it 'the element' instead. I figure they were going for the idea that while the turtles unlocked the element people didn't learn how to really learn how to use its potential until training with the animals/spirits. They even had a clip of Wan training with a dragon. Or it could just be a retcon.
Don't have to retcon. The innate ability still requires certain types of movements to obtain certain results. So for instance, a person might have air bending as a skill, but perhaps they didn't really master it until they copied the movements of certain attuned animals? The original idea was basically just their version of old martial arts styles trying to mimic certain animals.
^That. Remember the Suuko and Aang episode where they went to find a Dragon as a shortcut to mastering Firebending? To "learn from the source" as it were. And you saw the original avatar, who was briefly as acknowledged as being a badass Firebender by the guys he was fighting, training with something that looked basically like a Dragon. Also Toph's Earthbending is unique because she literally learned from the Badger Moles. They based her entire style off an entirely different martial art to give it a distinct feel from every other Earthbender. So that is a modern day example of real talent being refined by learning the motions from animals.
Plus, you know, 10,000 years, myths and legends, etc. What we've heard prior to this is how people in the present, ~9,900 years later, know about how bending started. That is basically what people in the 17th century knew about the exact origins of agriculture and the transition from hunter-gather societies. Now we are getting a first hand account of what actually went down.
All-in-all, for a kids shows, Avatar has amazingly little retconning. The mechanics and lore of the world hang together very well. I can't think of a TV show essentially in its fifth season on air right now with fewer narrative fuck ups.
Heads up on November scheduling:
Friday, Nov. 1, 8:00pm – Episode 9
Friday, Nov. 8, 8:00pm – Episode 10
Friday, Nov. 15, 8:00pm – Episodes 11 & 12 (one hour!)
Friday, Nov. 22, 8:00pm – Episodes 13 & 14 (one hour finale!)
so, if someone never ever watch/read anything about Avatar, where should i begin? can you give me a chronological list of the stuff i should watch ? (and if there are different continuities?)
Amazon.com: Avatar: Season 1, Episode 1 : Amazon Instant Video
Amazon.com: Avatar: Season 2, Episode 1 : Amazon Instant Video
Amazon.com: Avatar: Season 3, Episode 1 : Amazon Instant Video
Avatar: The Last Airbender: The Search, Part 1: Gene Luen Yang, Michael Dante DiMartino, Bryan Konietzko, Dave Marshall, Gurihiru: 9781616550547: Amazon.com: Books
Avatar: The Last Airbender: The Search, Part 2: Gene Luen Yang, Michael Dante DiMartino, Bryan Konietzko, Dave Marshall, Gurihiru: 9781616551902: Amazon.com: Books
Avatar: The Last Airbender: The Search, Part 3: Gene Luen Yang, Michael Dante, Bryan Konietzko, Dave Marshall, Gurihiru: 9781616551841: Amazon.com: Books
Avatar: The Last Airbender: The Promise, Part 1: Michael Dante DiMartino, Bryan Konietzko, Gene Luen Yang, Gurihiru: 9781595828118: Amazon.com: Books
Avatar: The Last Airbender: The Promise, Part 2: Gene Luen Yang, Michael Dante DiMartino, Bryan Konietzko, Dave Marshall, Gurihiru: 9781595828750: Amazon.com: Books
Avatar: The Last Airbender: The Promise, Part 3: Gene Luen Yang, Michael Dante DiMartino, Bryan Konietzko, Gurihiru: 9781595829412: Amazon.com: Books
Avatar: The Last Airbender - The Rift Part 1: Gene Luen Yang, Michael Dante DiMartino, Bryan Konietzko, Dave Marshall, Gurihiru: 9781616552954: Amazon.com: Books
Recommend you wikipedia the chronological order of the books. They are direct sequels to the series.
and where this Legend of Korra serie fits into it ?
Anyway, it can even be further explained by a likely cataclysm. Avatar timeline is like 20k years. Wan was asserted for being just under 10k for "modern" avatar.
Compare it to human history. 8000BC. we were literally living in caves. Agriculture is just invented. Pottery. The utter lack of progress from Wan's time to Aang's time is crazy. particularly when you go 70 years from Aang, to industrial revolution in Korra.
You have evidence of abandoned civilizations. the library, the dragon temple/city. the dragonturtles themselves leaving.
Last edited by Lithose; 11-04-2013 at 10:43 AM.
So, caught the origin Episodes and decided to start with the series. Got the end of the Civil War two part. What I don't get is why the Avatar is pussy footing around her uncle. We've pretty clearly been shown that the Avatar ranks above the spiritual lords of the respective realms, here.
Do they explain later why she just doesn't Avatar state and smack her uncle down, and tell him he's going to jail or some shit? Because Roku did not have a problem with taking out the Firelord, despite being a fire citizen. So it doesn't seem like it's taboo if someone is corrupt. I guess it could be explained with her being young and not yet a full established Avatar, but at the moment it feels a little contrived--like the only reason she isn't going Super Sayjin and nuking him is because the plot needs it.
Still, despite that, it's very enjoyable--and even that small contrivance is easy to overlook because they've really brought out Korra's inexperience and naivety, so even though it feels more like a plot consideration, it's not totally outside the realm of believability.
Ahh ha! So Jinora was indeed key to the whole thing afterall with her connection to the spirit world. Im curious to see how the Asami / Mako / Bolin / Varik storyline ends up tying into the rest of the plot. I wonder if Varik, as a transportation tycoon, isn't tied into this because the existence of the two portals would be a huge boon to his business if he controlled them or incredibly damaging if he did not.
Still cool that this season has been a good chance to go deeper into Waterbending culture in a way that the original first season didn't as it was focused so much on world building whereas we got a really good look at the Earth Kingdom and Fire Nation during their respective seasons.
Because in the show I watched, there was an entire episode dedicated to explaining how the Avatars have murdered bad leaders over and over and over again, in the Episode where Aang is trying to find a way to nullify Sozen without killing him. Also I said smack him down and toss him in jail. He can still be useful for his connection to the spirits, if that's what she wanted--she has the power to take him down politically and force the subjugation of the tribe. Again, Roku did that to the Firelord himself, in the scene I linked, because he didn't want to kill him--so he blew up his throne, dismantled the colony and embarrassed the shit out of the Firelord. About a dozen other Avatars did stuff like that as well (The Avatars Aang met on the Lion Turtle is essentially list times they've done this.)
So where exactly are you getting this? Because it doesn't seem present anywhere else in the series. Even Aang had no problem throwing down with political leaders who stepped out of line, heck in the comic he was about to murder Zuko for not listening to him and only changed his mind at the last minute because of something Katara said to him.
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I'm not sure you realize it, but she did not kill him. He was fucking retarded and stayed there and the ground just HAPPENED to crumble down.
Please re-watch the series and read the series. It was rare for an Avatar to actually kill someone. The reason why Aang was about to kill Zuko was because out of pure emotion.
Also, he was about to kill Zuko because Zuko asked him to if he felt it was right. It wasn't pure emotion, it was Aang dealing with the stress of being in charge of another persons moral compass. Zuko even apologizes for that later, that specific thing: Asking Aang to be in charge of his morality. Again though, this example was meant to illustrate killing a leader is NOT outside the Avatars sphere of influence if it's required. Nothing more. Because the premise of his post was that killing a leader would throw the world into imbalance and that's why it's not done. Yet many Avatars said they would do it, or have done it and/or have removed leaders.
Yeah, I need to rewatch the series. Maybe you just need to get through a few posts accurately?
Here is the original post.
No killing was mentioned, even. I even illustrated how other Avatars have done it without killing. I don't even know where the hell you two are getting that from, it's an absurd derail twist you guys have plopped in, I don't know why. The original premise was why doesn't she just go Avatar state, kick his ass, toss him in jail and say "you're no longer the leader". You know, like has been shown in every previous incarnation of the Avatar when they've met a corrupt leader? Which is why my original post said it's pretty obvious the Avatar ranks above respective spiritual leaders in terms of authority.Originally Posted by lithose
Using the Avatar state to dethrone a leader was twisted into "murdering everyone in her path", for what reason? Not sure. But the following post was only showing that killing HAS been done, and every Avatar we've EVER seen in the show has been prepared to kill leaders who would not listen (Indicating murdering leaders had been done, over and over), except Aang (But again, as shown, even he was prepared to do it for the greater good.)
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Isn't he also her uncle ? Murdering your own family seems like the last resort, at least until she figured out all the stuff he did.
Last episode was gorgeous, but the ending ... gee, I wonder if the guy who has allied himself with the dark spirit will keep his word after I help him. /facepalm
Well they did say that opening the portal would lead to a big battle between Vaatu and Raava, who is to say that Raava loses? After all through the Avatar Raava now has 10000 years of positive energy to draw upon whereas Vaatu has been stuck in a tree.
Busy weekend.Well the Korra Nation tumbler blog said they would release the final two episodes tonight online at 12 EST if they got 10k reblogs. They did so we're going to have all four of the last episodes today.
I actually would prefer they just release it normally, but oh well. We're going to now have a four episode finale day. Two on TV and two online.
just caught the hr tonite...awesome show tonite. i called thethe second we learned about the light and dark spirits...Spoiler:
midnight i am going to watch the final two episodes.
Ya, kind of a cool concept if they actually go through with it. Although you kinda wonder how the reincarnation would work ;p
if you think about it, it might not be reincarnation per se, just the spirit of light finding a newborn of the next bending style almost immediately after the old avatar dies, then fusing that that soul. the "reincarnation" aspect would then be raava's memories
loved the owl's a radio is little men speaking thru the box comment tonite
Just finished watching the last two episodes.. Pretty damn epic. The way that raava got..... Grin. Great final.
Excellent season. They are doing 3 seasons, right?
If they do the Tech vs. Spirituality thing, I hope they settle on a "we can have both" approach in the end vs. FF7 style "lol tech is bad!!11!".
Last edited by Lithose; 11-16-2013 at 08:57 PM.
Well, they made it clear that even if one is "destroyed", they really aren't destroyed forever.
Just watched the rest of it. Fucking awesome. Now I want seasons 3 and 4 to be done and released already.
I remember reading that Seasons 3 and 4 were going to be make in tandem with Season 2, so maybe we won't have to wait 8months for the next season.
I'm a little sad we may not see any more of Aang with the connection to the previous Avatars lost.
Interesting detail someone on another forum pointed out:
The big loose thread to me is:
Last edited by Xalara; 11-18-2013 at 06:28 AM.
I suspect that this is not the last we will see of Jinora's spirit powers, especially with the way the world has changed post harmonic convergence. Part of me suspects that next season we will see new benders emerging that don't correspond strictly to Air, Earth, Fire and Water. Afterall in Wan's time no one was a natural bender and they all got their elements from the dragon turtles on a loaner basis. What if the non-bending population are actually benders but of types that were suppressed by the Avatar cycle.
Anywho the series is pretty fantastic, damn shame that Nick seems incompetent with respect to scheduling it (nothing for over a year and then burn through all 14 episodes in like 2 months...)
Ya, their scheduling and time shifting was sort of WTF.
Awesome, the ending made me cry like a little kid.
I still don't think it came close to the last season of the original TLA. Katara vs Hama, the sibling battle for the firelord title, Aang vs Ozai... Bending just seems weaker and I wouldn't mind seeing more of the battles, either with spirits or just in general.
Did anyone else notice that if Varrick's plan had actually worked and the president had put forces to the South then none of the bad stuff at the end would have happened?
That's just a possibility but yeah. Seriously. It was just narrow minded to an extreme, especally given that the Dark Avatar then started to immediately wipe the floor with Republic City forces.
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