Really low number of casualties. Pretty amazin actually considering the damage.
Apparently the tail fell off somehow as it was landing and plane ended up rolling. 2 people confirmed dead so far, and 60+ injured.
60+ are unaccounted for, not injured. More blood on the hands of the Black Prince. His reign will drown in it.
so where did the unaccounted people go? Just left on their own accord before being counted or burned alive?
Yea it is pretty amazing how the planes look after accidents that people survive.
Yeah I have no clue how only 2 people died and so many were unhurt from that. The wreckage looks bad and the plane supposedly rolled several times on the runway.
Kinda shocked so many people survived that. Was the pilot a Korean Woman?
From what I've read/seen he hit the ground before the runway somehow and ripped the tail off, which is stupid because SFO's runway is huge.
I'm quite sure this is a pilot error, at least from what's being said right now. But, I'm sure those "facts" will change, as they always do. From the debris field, it looks pretty clearly that he just landed on the runway way way too early.
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Supposedly clipped the sea wall with the tail (which removed the tail) on a too short approach at roughly a 45 degree angle. Maybe the pilot watched Space Cowboys the night before and decided to "tap the brakes" a bit on the approach.
I'm guessing the reason there aren't a ton of deaths is because the plane was doing a standard landing, which means it was slowing its airspeed down a lot and was oriented in a way so the belly was facing downwards.
If SF's runway had been a treadmill, would the plane have landed?
Other than that, surprisingly less lethal plane crash. Hooray for the goodguys.
What if it landed on the roof but onto a giant trampoline?
So now all passengers will get a brief pamphlet about their pilot before boarding the plane so they can decide whether the risk is worth it or not. "Recently divorced? Fuck this!"
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Sounds like the media is starting to blame the pilot for the crash based on him asking for an increase in speed before the landing.
the plane was already going way too slow. whoever was in charge of that, they are gonna get reamed. and i heard the 2 girls who died, died when the tail section broke off and they were sucked out of the plane.
First responding unit is being represented right now by a lieutenant i believe.. she's referring to her coworkers as "heroes"
What? Why are you a hero for performing your sole job function?
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because it involves risking your life to save others?
I've got a lot of respect for people who choose professions like Firefighter, but being a Firefighter or something similar doesn't automatically make you a hero.
Yeah, you don't get to pull the hero card that often. If you do eventually someone is going to invent a word which means, "A hero but for real" and then you'll have to start calling them that and it's just this long stupid cycle of pointlessness.
Good Guy Firefighter? Most Excellent Paramedic Dude?
They deserve respect for making that choice. Allow hero to mean something more specific.
I always put the term "hero" to first responders who go way above and beyond the call of duty, such as the guys going up the stairs in the WTC while everyone was going down. Not some dude who just showed up as part of his job.
Whether you get paid to or not. Risking your life to save someone else =hero
Someone pulls me out of burning wreckage, regardless if its their job or not, I'd consider them a hero.
Im waiting for someone to claim that none of our military are heroes,because they get paid.
So they are all blaming this noob pilot with 43 hours, blah, blah... But wait a second, should there not be a co-pilot there responsible for this noob? WTF? Its not like this dude went up there alone. He was in training.
I'm actually with you on this one, Chuk.
Many of our servicemen and women are not heroes, and it bugs me that by simply signing up, people make them out to be. Like any other large group of people, the military contains rapists, murderers, and run of the mill gangbangers. Are they heroes too?
The dude that sells potato chips at the commissary is certainly a hero.
The military is a bit more tricky. Part of the problem is that the institution attracts people who are out for blood. Should a psychopath be considered a hero for gleefully slaughtering his enemies from the relative safety of a helicopter? Unfortunately, the promise of being recognized as a hero is part of the appeal of joining the military in the first place. Personally, I'm less inclined to consider someone a hero for killing than I am for saving a life, but it isn't a black/white issue.
In your watered down pathetic definition of hero, I'm sure everybody is one.
What's your definition?
Hes totally going to mention somebody out of a comic book
That being said, I understand (I think) what you're getting at, and terms such as that are used was too often in the media.
Yes, I couldnt think of the proper term. Though maybe it should say you can be a hero and you can be a role model, but you cant always be both.
Also, as far as this pilot nonsense goes, I think the media is being very misleading. They keep mentioning how he had 43 hours or whatever and had never landed at SFO. But the dude had 10,000 hours and most definitely HAD landed there before. Just because it's a new airframe doesn't mean you forget everything you know.
You take good old Rudy Jew-liani on Sept 11 and the 2 weeks following. The way he managed to rise to his station (i.e. do his fucking job), co-ordinate efforts, and restore public confidence was IMHO (and plenty will disagree) a heroic effort. Not all men in his position would have risen to the station, or the situation. Shit could have been way, way worse. No riots broke out, no looting, no breakdown of civil authority -- which could have happened.
Is good old Rudy a hero? God no. But his actions for those weeks I would class as heroic in nature.
It's not specific to him. There are other examples that could be used of an otherwise non-heroic man doing heroic things. And then there are examples of straight up heroic men, like take Dr. King and the lawyers which supported him.
can you say someone who is not alive a hero.
Well, I just did.
Last I checked King is still dead.
jesus is a hero.
jesus saved a lot of lives. more people got saved by jesus to this day.
Look, no one is perfect - you'll find flaws with anyone called a "hero". But there are flaws, and there are outright scummy, monstrous qualities.
There were 20 Medals of Honor given to soldiers at Wounded Knee - the same "battle" in which fleeing unarmed women (some holding infants) and children were run down and shot in the back. I certainly think there's room to disagree on who and what heroes are.
I'm a hero for actually reading through this entire retarded derail. Where the fuck is my medal.
With only 2 deaths I feel like this shouldn't be as big a story as it is. I'd rather see more coverage of that train that exploded in Canada.
Wow really, not sure if serious...
To me it's just like all the RPGs we've played. We can roll through the Barrens and be acclaimed as a hero by all the NPCs and noobs there, but once we're strolling through Redridge smashing those fools we're no hero. I don't know that I'd say running a city well is heroic, but if guilliani happened to grab someone out of a bunch of rubble at the last moment then yeah, he's a fuckin' hero.
So I guess my sarcasm wasn't dripping enough... YES GAV I'M AWARE. THE FACT HE DEFACTO IMPLIES SOME OTHER MEDAL WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE APPROPRIATE IS WHERE MY "NOT SURE IF SERIOUS" COMES INTO PLAY.
Fuck you're a retard. I mean, a true downy bro.
"Well, that was it. But I won't stop. I won't give up. Because when I look at what is happening in the world, I know that now, more than ever, ...we need to be all that we can be. Now, more than ever, ...we need the Jedi."
This motherfucker right here knows what a hero is!
(Although according to the show, a hero is someone that passes up free money apparently, but I digress!)
Yeah I was about to post that, the third is pretty obvious to me but a fellow bro could tell me what the other references are ?
Not everything on the internet is true - Abraham Lincoln
Actually after reading them out loud a few times I only miss the last one.
Not everything on the internet is true - Abraham Lincoln
I honestly can't believe someone at the station didn't realize they got trolled by the intern that confirmed the names. Thats really hard for me to swallow.
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