I read this script a couple of months ago... Amazing. Can't wait to see...
Looking forward to this
Any early reviews from any of you? Planning on seeing it Christmas day if timing works out. Really looking forward to it.
Lets not start sucking each others dicks just yet.
But I imagine this will kick ass.
Spike Lee can be such a little bitch sometimes.
Lee was mad back when Tarantino dropped 38 n-bombs in Jackie Brown, not shocking he's upset about a movie that uses it 109 times. Also, not shocking that no one else gives a fuck.
Slavery was not a mini-series starring LeVar Burton....or a boat with Djimon Hounsou, either...I don't see Spike Lee bitching about these.
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Just saw it, great movie. My only complaint is that it is perhaps 20-30 minutes too long. Of course those last 20-30 minutes are filled with explosions so it's a wash. On Leonardo Dicaprio...
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Saw it. Loved it. Was everything I expected and more. I didn't even know SLJ was in the movie until I saw the opening credits but holy shit did he steal every scene. I bet they didn't even give him a script, they just said "Play the head house nigger" and he took it from there.
I'd love to find out what scenes were unscripted because for whatever reason it seemed like there were a lot of them, like the shot glass scene.
Movie was bomb. An extremely satisfying revenge film. I don't get Spike Lee's hate. I think its portrayal is true to form.
Saw it last night, and it was great. Some of the scenery was absolutely stunning in this. My only complaint is it drags a bit toward the end...but I guess I'll take the full experience over cuts from the film.
I really liked the film stock / effects(?) they used in the scenes when they were riding through the countryside with the buffalo. It very much reminded me of an old western or wildlife movie as it had that grainy feel to it.
Anyone catch the Wilhelm scream? I'm pretty sure I heard it when
I think the end drags on a little, but the payoff is pretty fantastic.
Agreed about the ending dragging on, buy paying off. If that movie was ~half hour shorter it woulda been even better imo.
Very entertaining, sammy j blew that shit away haha
What was with the chick in the red facemask? She's in the trailer, has several shots hold on to her for longer than necessary, but unless I missed something she means absolutely nothing to the movie and is just another goon?
Yea I noticed that too. It seemed like she was supposed to be someone but it was never covered in the movie? Not sure she died or anything either, just vanished. Was she a tribute to a different movie?
He's in Hollywood. It is likely an occasion to gather attention. Frankly after the tweeting thing, I hope he gets hit by a bus.
A) IMO this is the greatest movie I have ever seen
2) Fuck Spike Lee
Third) Jaime Foxx was recently in that stupid ass demandaplan.org video to ban assault rifles. Really? You make this EPIC and AWESOME movie (Which is pretty much 98% gun violence) and then denounce it by saying we shouldn't have them? Idiot. He can go Join Spike Lee in the "Fuck yourself" bin.
Finally) Seriously, this is the best movie ever. If you haven't seen it, go. If you're on the fence about seeing it, go. If you have $7 to burn and a few hours to kill GO! (It's a better idea than a crack whore anyways)
Some people just want to watch the world burn. Good. I've got marshmallows.
Awesome, fun movie. Completely worth the price of a ticket.
If only Tarantino took some tips from Spike Lee and made the entire movie about how white people should feel bad and they're all the devil.
Yeah, I heard that too when I watched it earlier (even rewound to make sure I actually heard him say it). You'd think someone like him would know better but I guess he has smart script editors and shit to fix things like that.
Saw Django last night and mostly loved it but it did drag out a bit too much. I would've preferred more dialog heavy scenes and less violence heavy scenes. Fucking love Christoph Waltz.
Imo Dicaprio stole the movie. His character was so sinister and filled with tension.
Fuck. These reviews from you guys are giving me a boner about this movie. Hope to see it this weekend.
Was a great flick. A bit too long, but I didn't look at my watch like I did during the Hobbit. Great story and casting all the way around. You just can't beat Sam Jackson doing Sam Jackson, unless they could have worked in Ezekiel 25:17 into one of his dialogues!
This movie was fucking awesome. Loved every minute of it.
I'm not a fan of sequels or prequels per se, but I would fucking love a movie based on Schultz and Django's bounty hunting during the winter.
I don't question Tarentino's love of movies, his love of watching them and making them. His enthusiasm is there for all to see. The problem though is that love, passion even, and good intentions do not automatically make good movies. Just like him, I saw and enjoyed many kung-fu movies with Gordon Liu, I saw Sonny Chiba's Street Fighter, I loved the serie of Female Convict Scorpion with Meiko Kaji and still (or maybe because of that) I find Kill Bill a lot less satisfying than the movies it pays homage to. In a way, Tarentino's greatest strength, this juvenile energy that allows him to make a refreshingly iconoclast WWII movie, is also his greatest limitation. Ultimately, he is making in reality the movies he made in his dreams during his youth, fusing together the many movies he saw during the day: He is using his phenomenal movie culture to make teenage fantasies. It has its regressive charm (and it would be hypocrite of me to say that I don't enjoy seeing Rosario Dawson prance around and Mary Elizabeth Winstead in a pom pom girl outfit), but I am not a teenager anymore, so I ask a little more of movies to call them great (like the 25th Hour).
To say it differently, the object of Tarentino's films is not reality, it's other films. Being twice removed from reality, they cannot address the world we live in, and being products of pure adoration, his movies don't even try to comment, analyze or creatively betray the fictions that inspires them. Enjoyable, well crafted but ultimately empty and sterile labors of love.
On a side note, to this day I think my favorite Tarentino movie is still Pulp Fiction and it might owe it more to Avary's sense of choral structure than to Tarentino's flair for dialogues.
I love most of QT's films but Szlia has a point. The guy doesn't write movies, he just pays homage to movies he loves in film form. They are wildly entertaining and he has a knack for comedic over embellishment but you will never find his movies to be thought provoking or beautiful. They are just good old fashioned fun.
What was the comment about video store clerk montages? That makes me think Clerks, which is Kevin Smith, not Tarantino.
Lifetime Gross Total (8): $465,640,062
Opening Gross Average (7): $16,492,813 (Wide Releases Only)
Lifetime Gross Total (19): $374,979,342
Opening Gross Average (11): $7,779,007 (Wide Releases Only)
These numbers are with Lee's multiple contributions and Tarantino's fewer. It looks as though movie goers feel as though I do.
Tarantino films tend to appeal to a wider demographic (most importantly, the demographic that spends money) vs. Lee, where with the exception of a few films, tend to appeal to more specific demographics. The other thing to consider is that a large bulk of Spike Lee's biggest hits were in the 80s and 90s, whereas Tarantino has been primarily 90s and onward, so you would also need to account for inflation.
That being said, I watch movies for multiple reasons, be it to be entertained or to provoke thought or to just appreciate the skill that went into making a film.
Szlia isn't saying that QT movies don't entertain or aren't worthy of big box office numbers but that he thinks they aren't "great" movies. In a structural or artistic sense. Which they aren't. Most movies don't need to be, they just need to fill the entertainment bill and films like Django or Pulp Fiction do that quite nicely.
They are well written and acted movies however regardless if they do not have some deep meaning.
The ONLY thing I could possible see Spike Lee getting upset about in this movie (and I am stretching this shit) is that after awhile you totally got desensitized to the word "nigger". I mean it got comedic after awhile.
I would tell Spike as a black man...Nigger enjoy the fuckin movie. It was awesome.
I know everyone will chime in how Decaprio was awesome, but Samuel Jackson was just fuckin great. The whole damn casting was great.
Another great QT movie. I will admit that it dragged on a little bit at times.
As far and Whine Lee is concerned, we looked at his IMDB listing of films and determined its true. You put enough monkeys at a typewriter for long enough you can get Shakespeare one time. But there has not been enough time for him. I mean maybe 1 palatable movie since 1991.
Finally seen it, fucking loved it. Not just as a Tarantino fanboy either, it was a really great movie. I don't know how he managed to pull off some pretty racist shit and still make some of the racist shit just hilarious, but at the expense of the assholes spouting it. I feel like it was racism/comedy done right, if that makes any sense.
I heard all intensive purposes.
I honestly cannot understand people complaining about the overabundance of the word nigger in the movie. Do people forget that the time period is pre-Civil War in the south? If I had to venture a guess, I would say in reality people probably called blacks niggers more times than they did in the movie.
Entertainment and Drama are two very different things. There's a reason why DeNiro, Pacino, and SHATNER are the three actors most parodied. Tarantino is a great filmmaker, he always has me entertained. If I'm looking for drama I'll tend to head in the Branagh, Washington, Day Lewis, Sellers direction. For entertainment, nothing beats DeNiro, Pacino, and Shatner though. But you're never going to see them play a great Hamlet or a parapalygic hooker looking to get clean. Same way Tarantino will always entertain me, but if you're looking for innovative Hitchcock like Direction you're not always going to get it from him.
Most folks have a hard time seperating the two. That's why people think good looking entertainers and one note Italian gangsters are great "actors", they're not.
They're never about homage (Shindler's) Kabooms (Michael Bay) TeenHormoneTax (Twilight) a Message (Inconvenient Truth / Bowling for Columbine) Milking the cow (Saw N°12)...
Or anything else, mostly about "what he'd like to watch in a theater and enjoy".
I agree they are "twice removed from reality" but isn't that by essence the goal of movies ? pure entertainment ?
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If there were a spectrum of movie watchers, I'd be towards the Szila end. With that said, I loved the movie, I'm a big QT fan and I'm sure I give him more credit (on a film snob level) than Szila does. I thought Django was Tarentino's least stylishly interesting film but also his most substantive. There isn't a stand out scene (think the basement bar scene in IB), no monologues reach the heights of Kill Bill's Superman one, etc. At the same time, the movie probably raises more issues regarding slavery than any movie ever. The film sparks conversations. It makes me wish I was back in college, discussing it in a Race in Film class. It's also hilarious, stylish, and packed with great performances.
However, I think its rather easy to see how some could find the movie offensive. Take the tone of the film, and the use of 'nigger'. Tarantino is the the Andy Warhol of film. He makes pop art. It's pop. And art. I love that. Some don't see the art. Others disagree that his subjects should ever be pop. I'm not a fan of criticizing a film without seeing it. Still, I don't think Lee needed to see the movie to understand that it's not Schindler's List, which is how he thinks slavery should be treated. I get that and the movie is exploitative, at times it's a cartoon, at times it's a comedy. Ultimately, it uses the horrors of slavery in service of B movie entertainment. That doesn't offend me, but I see how it would offend some. Moving on, the suspicion regarding the use of 'nigger' is that not only does QT use it to be historically accurate but also because he derives some childish enjoyment from using it, he enjoys shocking people with it. In a way, he's trolling. Pulp Fiction and his "dead nigger storage" line is the prime example. You can read about Sam Jackson explaining the difference between 'nigga' and 'nigger' to QT at the time of filming, but one expects that QT already knew. Given that foundation, some think QT uses history as an excuse to use the word in Django. To an extent, I think he does. I think he also uses it to be historically accurate. I think he also uses it to show how slaves were routinely dehumanized. That's what makes dude interesting.
/edit I'm surprised that people are having trouble with the goals of movies on a video game message board. There's Call of Duty, Bio shock, Shadow of the Colossus, Braid, Math Blasters, and so on. Some people only want Call of Duty, others prefer Shadow of the Colossus. No different with movies.
/edit 2 I found this short piece which covers some of what I said above, only it says better. http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...-reviewed.html
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Just saw this. Fucking awesome. My favorite movie all year, better than Moonrise Kingdom, etc. I had a big smile on my face the whole time (I felt this way in Expendables 2 also!). Fucking great. QT sure can frame up some great scenes. Like the part towards beginning when riding into the first town together, and you see Django's head pass through the noose w/ parallax scrolling. And the scene towards the end when all the white slave herders are in the cabin, ones building the birdhouse, etc, just the way it was shot. Fucking great man. Loved it!
Saw this earlier today. First third of the movie was awesome, and the rest really dragged until the end. This would've been a great movie if it were 2 hours or 2:15, but the dialogue in the middle was just too thick for my taste. The pacing reminded me of Jackie Brown, where the movie just completely lost my attention in the middle until it got interesting again in the last 15 minutes. Samuel L. Jackson and especially Christoph Waltz were amazing though.
Oh, is that what Sam Jackson looks like now? Or was there a lot of makeup involved? Christoph Waltz is fucking fantastic! He's so entertaining just to watch and listen to. Leo DiCaprio was fantastic as well, and the "cut hand scene" was great. I still think Leo is #2 best actor on planet second to Daniel Day Lewis (IMHO Bill the Butcher is the best character in any movie, ever.)
Lots of makeup. "Cut hand scene" was an accident and Leo stayed in character.
Katt Williams' spiral towards complete insanity continues. I personally hope he does bump into Tarantino and gets that little man syndrome beat right out of him.
What a fucking retard. He needs to slide the decimal point on that IQ of his to the left a couple times if he wants anyone to believe it.
Considering the fact that Kat Williams standup is 98% him just saying the N-word over and over, I can see where he sees this film as a threat to his livelihood.
Why would someone go get an IQ test every 6 months? I wonder if he's actually adding his scores together like they're points you collect.
Anyone hanging out with Suge Knight does not have a 141 IQ.
Either way, I saw this, I loved it all the way through the dinner scene. I also felt like the blood came out of nowhere and was wondering of it was intentional, pretty awesome Leo stuck with it like that. The pacing was weird as hell though, felt like ROTK. I was sure the movie was ending that night or the next morning but nope. An editor could've made this movie a 9 or a 9.5, but it's still very good and really really 'fun'.
Pulp Fiction has the best dialogue of any movie ever, period. Although I generally like QT's movies, he has never done anything as close to as good as Pulp Fiction.
Went and saw this during the snow storm, fire broke out in the theater and didn't get to finish it. Boner killer.
ROFL at those saying 25th Hour is better than Pulp Fiction. 25th Hour was a good movie, but lets get fucking serious here. Spike Lee is a faggot.
Django.... What a fucking movie. Loved it. It was about 15 minutes too long, but it was still excellent. This slots in at #2 behind Zero Dark Thirty on my moveis of the year list. Better than Inglorious Bastards.
I always roll my eyes when directors like Tarantino or authors like Stephen King are denounced as producers of pulp crap. After trying and failing to understand why some people require social commentary to appreciate a piece of art, I gave up.
Szlia's argument would be more convincing if instead of saying 'Tarantino's movies aren't great' he had said 'Tarantino's movies aren't genius.' Genius, by definition, requires originality. His movies take a genre and elevate the production to art... so the case might be made that he's not really doing anything new. But his craftsmanship is nearly peerless. Also, despite this schtick, it'd be hard to convince me a good deal of his work is not genius.
Anyway, I really enjoyed Django. I thought the ending was a little long without Christoph Waltz or DiCaprio to carry Jamie Foxx (he's growing on me but I'm not his biggest fan). I wish the first two parts of the movie were a bit longer, but I like longer movies... probably alone in that respect.
Last edited by Kid Sized Coffin; 12-31-2012 at 09:44 PM.
Saw this last night and it was great. Tarantino's cameo in which he tries to do an Australian accent was extremely painful, but I liked how it ended. I loved the scene where Waltz and DiCaprio are arguing over the handshake. They are both such great actors.
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