Posted in the star wars thread but this belongs here:
Thought there was a thread for this show but couldn't find it, anyways this show hit its stride again this season. The jerry episode was fantastic and I laugh every time Adam Scott goes off about GoT and fringe
Posted in the star wars thread but this belongs here:
I have never really invested in this show. On the recommendation of friends I've slogged through the first 10 or so episodes, but it just feels kind of empty to me. I like a lot of the people involved with the show, but I just don't seem to get whatever it is that people love so much. Does it take a full season to really find its groove?
The first season wasn't great. Season 2 it got really fucking good though.
You could (and probably should) jump straight to when Rob Lowe and Adam Scott joined the cast (Season 2, Episode 23 - "The Master Plan"). There are bits of gold in Season 2, but I wouldn't slog through all of it to find them without already being a fan.
Season 3, in my opinion, is one of the best seasons any comedy has produced*. Seasons 4 and 5 aren't up to that level, but is still one of the best comedies this year. (Then again, that's a race with only 2 contestants, 30 Rock and itself.)
*Part of that is behind the scenes stuff: Due to Poehler's pregnancy and then NBC's scheduling, they only produced 10 episodes during the usual shooting year. You give that writer's room a whole year to produce material for 10 episodes, and you're not going to get any filler.
I tell everyone to just skip forward to when Scott and lows join, before that the show is pretty terrible
OMG the Fringe and Game of Thrones stuff ....
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It's sort of a light comedy. And a lot of the funny comes from the extra web stuff they do -- like releasing the full playlist for "Bens Cool Summer Jamz" or whatever it was, and the list of 3,000,000 things that Leslie Knope was for and against when she was running for council. And of course Swanson's chart of manliness.
Good to know my dislike of the first season is justified. I'll skip ahead as advised, but I feel odd doing it.
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Scott plays a better nerd that the actors on big bang theory
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i think folks are going too far saying skip season 2 up until Lowe/Scott show up though. They got in to their groove pretty early in the season.
But yeah, feel free to skip season one, with the blessing of the creators.
I think once they start bringing out Ron Swanson more and more is when it actually starts moving. Lowe/Scott came up on their upward swing and brought it into the stratosphere.
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Yep, forget about Season 1 it wasn't very good. IMO this might be the funniest show on non-cable TV at the moment.
I don't remember which episode it was (I want to say towards the beginning of season 2), but the first actual "lol" the show got out of me was when they start filling in the big pit and Andy is sleeping down there under the tarp.
The second episode of the second season is the one where Leslie and Tom stake out the pit and the one after is where Ann finds out Andy is living in the pit, according to IMDB. Both good episodes. Like I said, it really started hitting it stride right off the bat when they stopped trying to be The Office and just focused on their best characters. Mark never worked, they got him the fuck out of Dodge. Ron and Andy did work, they got more screentime and development.
And I think episode 3 is when Leslie invents the brilliant game Pizza Fight, which she dominates Louis CK at.
Their whole date with her all hammered is awesome. Don't skip most of season 2.
This show just flat out makes me feel good.
I know that sounds like a simple statement but it is very profound. No other program has consistently brought a warm smile to my face in this day and age. At my place this is one of the few shows we put all the phones/tablets/books down for and actually pay attention to.
I completely hated the first season and stopped after episode 2. My girlfriend was watching season 2 a few months later while I was working on my computer so I kept listening to it in the background. Within and hour I was like time to marathon all of this.
Season 3 episode 13 "The Fight" is pretty much my favorite episode.
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If you're going to skip to season 3, I strongly suggest finding a montage of everything with Ron Swnason in the first 2 seasons. I don't remember anything in particular he did, but he's been awesome from the get go.
Holy shit I loved this last episode, so weird watching Andy in movies like zero dark 30
I've always watched this show on and off, whenever it was on TV, but I just started really watching this show in Netflix the last few weeks. I'm a few episodes into Season 3 and it's so good. Sad to see the news of Rashida and Rob leaving, but I'm impressed the show is on 6 seasons. Lots more to watch!
Aww. Slutty Ann was litrahly my favorite character. I wonder if they're going to replace those two, or if they're winding the show down. It is season 6 after all, and 13 episodes in more than half the season.
Well, the show has struggled to find uses for both characters.
I liked the original idea of Chris, as a smiling incompetent Good Cop (whose actual work was done by Bad Cop Ben), but that was too mean-spirited for this show. Instead he just turned into this source of endless optimism... which is literally the most redundant character on television on the show with Leslie Knope.
Ann is just the straight man; that role has been taken over by Ben. An endless string of jobs designed to keep her around didn't disguise that she had no real function on the show.
If it was my personal pick, I'd rather they got rid of Tom, but that's because that brand of humor doesn't appeal to me; the character clearly has a purpose. Ann and Chris don't.
I doubt we see either character "replaced"; I imagine some of the money goes for more Xena appearances, and the rest is lost to the shrinking budget the show is probably getting. (Let's be clear here: only NBC's continued overall incompetence is keeping a show with those ratings on the air.)
I don't know what the ratings are like for Parks and Rec but it's my favorite sitcom on TV. I love it. So I'm glad they haven't cancelled it.
I see what you did there.liked the original idea of Chris, as a smiling incompetent Good Cop (whose actual work was done by Bad Cop Ben), but that was too mean-spirited for this show. Instead he just turned into this source of endless optimism... which is literally the most redundant character on television on the show with Leslie Knope.
I see any more P&R as just a nice bonus, last season was fantastic and I love all the characters on the show (even Gerry!!). This is really the only TV show I can think of where everyone is just a really nice person and tries to do the right thing, which is incredible in this day and age where we expect all TV personalities to be backstabbing, vicious, vacuous assholes.
also a few awesome guest stars this year will include Henry Winkler as Ron's dad and Veronica Mars as something
NOOOOOOOOOOO RASHIDA JONES. ONLY GOOD LOOKING WOMAN. NOOOOOO
They haven't known what to do with Ann since the first season. It initially made sense for her to be hanging out at the Parks Dept. since she was trying to get the pit next to her house turned into a park, but as that's become less of an arc in the show, they've just had to keep contriving reasons to keep her around. And most of that just revolved around which member of the government she was (or was not) having a fling with. This season, she mostly existed in the background until they threw her a bone with the pregnancy storyline, which I guess also gave Chris something to do other than sulking and being pathetic.
His character has sort of been the same way. He does well as a background character similar to someone like Creed or Meredith in The Office, but he's too one-note to be in the show that often, and he mostly got stuck with romantic storylines as well - Ann, then Gerry's daughter, then Shauna Malwae-Tweep, then Ann again... I'll miss his character more than Ann's, because he did have a lot of funny moments, but he's a joke that would've run thing eventually anyways - better for him to get out now than when everyone is tired of him. Ann, on the other hand, has felt expendable for some time. I'll miss Leslie's interactions with Ann more than I'll miss Ann herself, and I think a lot of Leslie's enthusiasm for Ann could easily be transferred to Ben and April (and already has in some cases).
Rashida Jones, nice... worst character of the show.
Yea they were barely able to come up with stuff for her to be a part of... Really felt random how she wanted to just get pregnant all of a sudden.
I love this shows lack of cynicism and innocent/fun loving sense of humor. Its so different from every other comedy show out there.
all women in this show are now ugly.
Pohler is kinda cute too, tbh. Not pretty like Aubrey or Rashida, but she's cute.
I remember one early scene where she was giving Tom sex advice like a mother hen for some big date he had and she was just saying all this funny shit.
"And Tom, don't make it last too long. Women don't like that".
Netflix, you tease! I thought I was caught up to current. Where does a man go for season 5?
Hulu is tricky, if you block their player ads it will still play, but the deadspace will be about 10x longer.
Just move your hosts file and put it back. Or something less naggerly if you actually know what you're doing.
Thank you sir, "must spread some rep around".
Aubrey plaza - april in parks and rec has a celebrity porn star look alike named paulina james. that is all.
better to slip with the foot then slip with the tongue
Don't see it at all. They're both cute brunettes, but I can't imagine anyone ever confusing the 2
Anyone else think they should cancel Parks and Rec and have a Ron Swanson spinoff instead?
I asked my girlfriend about who she thought should get a spinoff.
She said Andy and April with Ron as their watchful father figure.
I have to agree. I'd watch that.
It's a good ensemble. None of the characters are strong enough alone to carry a show. Not even the mighty Swanson Every character adds something. Even Tom and Jerry.
April, Andy, and Ron is probably the best potential spinoff.
While I love parks and rec, I have never really liked Chris Pratt. Considering how almost universally popular he is, I just consider it a character flaw on my part and just try and enjoy his parts as much as I can.
Nick Offerman did another AMA today. That dude is awesome.
In case you missed his previous 2, here you go.
His answers are delightful, you should read them.
Just in case you are a stupid asshole who hates joy and refuses to read, he posted this link to The Secret Unaired Scottish Adventures of Ron Swanson
pretty much means this is the final season, but thats not a bad thing, the storyline has kinda run its course and really the last season was a good series finale, with this one an bit of a epilogue for the fans.
With all the retarded shit on TV, this deserves to stay around.
I hate networks that fuck over good shows to promote new shows that are obviously trash. It is amazing to me how fucking stupid some tv execs are.
This is one of the few shows out there that I actually laugh at. And it's not even intentionally funny moments, just the flow of the show. I also love practically every scene that Ron is in.
Anyway, last night I saw the episode where Chris decides to mentally adopt Tom as a son of his own (just to see what it's like to raise a kid). At the end of the scene, he gives Tom's hair a tussle, and I had this guttural laugh. It was a dumb scene, but the cast just meshes together so perfectly.
Here is that scene, by the way:
I started watching this show from season 1 a few weeks back and can resoundingly say I watch for 90% Ron and 10% Chris. Ron may be my new Spirit Guide. Last episode with his will and the symbols, fucking made me belly laugh.
Anyone want to play some Cones of Dunshire?
I like the show, but they really are running out of road here. I expected this season finale to be the series finale. I mean they're hammering jerry (his name is going to wind up becoming Raul) into the GROUND. And it's still worth a smile when they do it, but that joke has a shelf life.
I guess we'll have a Leslie / Ben run for Congress themed season with the parks and rec office being side-jinks.
Which isn't bad. I've been thinking that this show is political commentary as much as it is anything else and as political commentary it has gotten progressively more and more pessimistic. That may be true to form and I'm not even complaining. But you kinda don't wanna bum your audience out when they're watching a comedy.
COUNCILMAN JAMM SPIN OFF!?!?! ....
...would be best.
Yeah, those two... it's just funny to see Tom tormented by even worse versions of himself.
I don't know, I think the show is just as good now as it has ever been. Rather than get stale and comfortable, the show has evolved and changed. The characters have all grown. And every single time they make fun of Gary I laugh. I don't know what the fuck you guys are talking about.
you guys = Iannis, of course. I could have sworn there were more people saying the show needed to end, but no, just Iannis. YOU'RE FUCKIN WRONG IANNNIS
I'm not saying it needs to end, just that they're running out of road. It's not like I'm super observant in saying that. Ron Swanson said it himself in the last episode when he told leslie that she needs to be aware she's not going to be in parks very long, and the department is functioning without her!
That's why I thought it was the final season as much as anything I might be projecting onto the show. There's been a lot of thematic "saying goodbye" this season.
Edit: I like Fey's humor a lot... but I think I actually like Pohlers more. Its softer.
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It's funny in small doses, but it seemed to happen, like, 4-5 times in the last episode and the proposal scene went on too long and seemed like it was trying way too hard to hammer on Jerry. They messed up the formula on that scene.
I do still like the show and like that they change stuff up from time to time.
I'll actually be happy when Rob Lowe leaves the show here shortly, I've never really liked his character much. And hopefully Chris Pratt(Andy) doesn't stay so busy doing movies that his role in the show lessens, but I could see that happening. You can never have too much Andy.
It seems to me like they have been trying to transition the show for a few seasons now away from the whole Leslie knows and runs everything and instead showing the impact she has had on the people around her. If this ever turns into The Office and they just start doing dumb shit to do it, I would be on board with axing it. But for now it is awesome.
My favorite thing about Jean-Ralphio is that he realizes what a shitbird he is and just doesn't care.
Could swear there's another one where Ron shuts down some idea and Jean-Ralphio says "Probably a good call" or something to that effect.
As for the show itself, as long as it's funnier than 95% of the sitcoms out there it can keep going. Even with it's mediocre ratings it's become the tentpole of NBC's Thursday night comedies, because the rest are bombing hard.
Pretty sure Leslie will run for state senate or something like that.
I finally got caught up on the last few episodes of this last night. It's still one of the funniest shows on TV, in my opinion. Like someone else has said, I really like how the characters have grown. Except Andy. I swear he gets dumber every episode, and while it was funny at first it's starting to become kind of ridiculous.
I cracked up at the "I saved your bacon, Ron" scene.
Still awesome show, and with the already mentioned characterdevelepment, I'm sure this show can revolve around just about anything and still be funny.
I'm ready to get JAMMED again.
If Jam was a doctor instead of a dentist he could've had a spin off called "JAM'MD'. He could be like House and after he fixes whoever's illness he looks at them and says, "Your (disease) just got JAM'MD!"
Yes, Grim. It's called "envy".
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