I liked Drive, and Gosling is a pretty decent actor, but that has to be the most retarded fucking trailer I've ever seen.
Last edited by kidgamer; 07-11-2013 at 07:55 PM.
I liked Drive, and Gosling is a pretty decent actor, but that has to be the most retarded fucking trailer I've ever seen.
I loved Drive and am 1000% on board with this movie.
Would you still be on board if you hadn't seen Drive, just based on this trailer?
Well, I would be on the fence. It is not a good trailer. But he did drag a dude across the floor by his upper jaw.
Looks pretty good, the trailer is stylized which is what the director does. Thankfully he does it very entertainingly, especially when he does criminal or underworld films. I've seen pretty much everything he's done, the Pusher series, Bronson, Drive, Valhalla Rising, he definitely does the whole underworld/criminal thing well. This movie appears to be set in Bangkok, so a look at the Thai underworld and the seedy parts of the city of Bangkok, that sounds interesting to me.
Let's hope that he does another good job with the music and soundtrack, if he selected the music for that trailer then I think he's on the right track.
Bronson, Drive and Valhalla Rising were amazing.
Can't wait for this one.
I've never seen a single movie with Ryan Gosling--at least not one where he has any notable role that I remember--and I am very interested in this movie now.
Looks awesome. Gosling has quickly become one of my favorite actors, especially when playing these quiet/intense characters. This and The Place Beyond the Pines (also Gosling) are two of the best trailers I've seen this year and not surprisingly are also two of my most anticipated movies.
Drive was fucking amazing, definitely going to give this the benefit of the doubt.
Fucking awesome trailer. Fucking awesome. Refn can't be stopped.
Dragging someone by their jaw seems really stupid. Will watch regardless.
It seems more like the roof of the mouth, I don't think it would be feasible to drag someone by their jaw. But yeah, it doesn't seem very smart unless you want your fingers bit off.
Trailer perked my interest. Will definitely follow this more closely now.
My god this can't come out soon enough
fuck ya. that music.
reminds me of ... SO GOOD
This movie looks sick.
A pseudo adaptation of Kane & Lynch 2: Dog Days?
Last edited by Szlia; 07-04-2013 at 05:37 PM.
You could have just put this in the Only God Forgives thread.
It should be noted that being booed at Cannes happens often and is rarely indicative of the quality of the film and of the awards it might get. Famously, Maurice Pialat won the Palme d'Or for 'Sous le soleil de Satan' (Under The Sun of Satan) and he was copiously booed by the public present at the ceremony to which he replied from the stage, his award in hand: 'If you don't love me, I don't love you either!' Brandishing his fist as the boos and whistles doubled!
LoL, the fuck?"It’s possibly the least glamorous role Gosling has ever had — he doesn’t remove his shirt at all — and it’s not likely to expand his fan base much, to say the least."
OP was clearly hoping to see Ryan Gosling without a shirt.
Merged this for maximu jimmie Gosling. So I am confused, is the movie awesome or not?
My verdict is 'meh'. Refn shoots for super stylish Oedipus-fueled greek tragedy and in the end it is very well shot, very ballsy in how extreme the execution of the concept is, but it is also very very dumb. It's made even more frustrating by the fact you can feel a great movie was almost there. Sadly, it did not materialize.
New trailer. Why isn't it August yet.
The song from the trailer. 2020 by the Suuns. Watching this video over and over for two hours will be better than watching the Baby Goose movie.
Meh fuck it I loved drive. I thought the silences spoke 100X louder then any dialogue ever could. I could be wrong as I haven't seen the movie but I'm going to assume it's the same in this movie.
Expectations are much lower after basically finding it impossible to find someone who has loved the film. The trailer's are badass though
Fuck it, i beleive my mancrush in Gosling is strong enough to like this movie even if it sucks.
(I didn't see the movie)
Early critics were awful, most of them being "internet journalists" without any culture about asian / HK cinema. Therefore, they'd totally miss most of the references : many scenes in the trailer remind about early John Woo work (when he was shooting in Hong Kong), current Johnnie To movies (The Mission, PTU, even Breaking News) and some cinematography choices even remind Wong Kar Wai style (choices of colors, sequence-shots, close lens, saturated lightings, etc). Some of the critics expressed on rottentomatoes are hilarious, like you can argue there's too much violence in a HK movie about underground world.
On the other hand, Scott Thomas' acting in the trailers looks awful (ON A PLATTER!!!) but I've read a story about Kristin Scott Thomas being given a sketchy raw script at first, she signed then she figured the movie wasn't at all about what she thought (she's pictured "Drive director making a Wong Kar Wai movie). Then she botched her scenes quickly to get rid of it, hence the awful acting. I don't have any sources since the comment on iMDB pro was deleted, so take it with a pinch of salt. It's kind of sad nowadays, when only one director is being associated and glorified with the whole genre (like Danny Boyle was at some time the best director UK ever had while everyone and their grandmother forget Kubrick was a brit).
Trailers wise, the movie feels a lot like "Drive 2 : Bangcock" with minimalist story, iconic characters and their struggle evolving in a somewhat offbeat culture. I'm not a Refn fan, I didn't like Valhalla / Pusher trilogy but I'm eagerly waiting for a Bluray release because the guy made Drive, which is my alltime top 20. I know Drive suffered few critics, most of them being kind of justified at the time (pace, characters and whatnot) but I really get my feathers ruffled when some uneducated blogger flames the movie because he lacks cinema culture. It's like saying math is bullshit because you can't count.
Maybe I'll hate the movie because it's too stall, it lacks story and rhythm. Maybe I'll hate the movie because the actors are awful and the directing is lame. But I sure won't hate it because some dumb, clueless fuck prevents me from watching it. just because he's trying to pretend he's an expert.
For reference, I have seen all of Wong Kar Wai, most of John Woo (NB: John Woo 'early stuff' is mostly comedy - he made 15 movies before A Better Tomorrow) and most of Johnnie To (when he directs that is, because I doubt even him saw most of what he produced) and this movie is still a poorly written and disappointing mess with the occasional moment of visual brilliance and musical climaxes. A bit frustrating really because you feel there is a great movie not so far from the final result.
On a side note, if you want a charismatic cop who sings karaoke as an antagonist, I just saw a thai movie called The Gangster (rise and fall of some gangsters starting in the '50s) that was a lot less stylish but dramatically better written.
EDIT: Corrected title
Last edited by Szlia; 07-14-2013 at 01:22 PM.
Only God Forgives was released in Europe a month or two ago, so I just walked 10 min and saw it.
The Gangster I just saw at a movie festival (NIFFF: Neuchâtel International Fantasy Film Festival that also has a section called New Cinema From Asia).
Found a trailer btw:
PS: the actual english title is the The Gangster (singular, not plural even though the main characters are two pairs of gangsters).
Last edited by Szlia; 07-14-2013 at 01:22 PM.
Maybe I'm a weirdo. I didn't like his aspergers performance in Drive. It was unnerving. He was just "off" the whole film. I realize that was the role he was playing, but it was fucked up anyway.
Haven't seen it released in UK anywhere yet.
So what happens if he stars in a movie along with Keanu Reeves.
In my opinion Drive suffered from being first seen as a heist movie, and then being acknowledgded by hipsters as a neo-noir Sundance film about forgotten values (scorpion jackets and racing gloves). Drive isn't about that really, it's about the Lone Wanderer cliche evolving into nowadays pastures, being estrangered in his own environment. I totally understand most of Drive's critics, being a shallow film about clueless characters going nowhere. But criticizing it just because some character doesn't talk is like blaming Harmonica man in Once Upon A Time In The West just because he plays harmonica. It's not about what they say, it's about what they feel. It's about what we feel.
A screener is available for those kids cool enough to know what I'm talking about.
My Friday night plans have just been set.
1080p version is on IPtorrents.
UK release is 2 weeks ago, think I'm gonna try and hold out for the Cinema release
I enjoyed Drive quite a bit, but I was inches away from actually turning this crap off halfway through. I stuck it out hoping for some redeeming ending, but not only did it not come, it got worse.
Don't waste your time.
Saw this tonight and...... it fucking sucked.
Nothing like Drive.. just complete shit.
"Sorry I tried to spit roast your mom."
What a boring ass movie. I don't even know what the fuck I watched
I tried to watch it, then fell asleep.
I was actually really tired, but the movie didn't help.
wow I can't believe it's actually as bad as advertised, it's really hard to imagine how it's going to be this terrible based on the trailer
maybe Gosling is trying too hard these days, the place beyond the pines was a bit overly ambitious as well
Kristin Scott Thomas was the best thing in this otherwise horrible movie.
Im planning on watching this, whats so bad about it?
Well if you go into it thinking it's going to be pretty bad (after reading this thread), it might turn out okay. But it's light on story and high on style. After the credits i was like; yeah that was a series of cool camerashots and she said "yellow nigger" lol.
I also liked it. I didn't find it any more masturbatory than Drive and Valhalla Rising, but that's a fucking high bar to clear. It's more in line with Valhalla Rising in that the story/ character arcs are at best nebulous. The characters just sort of exist and things happen beautifully. It is art. Is it good art? I don't know, but I'm happy to go along for the ride.
Last edited by Tea; 07-21-2013 at 09:36 AM.
I mean he doesnt have a small cock, but his brothers was enormous
Watched it last night. Very weird movie. I really loved Drive but not sure at all what I think about this one.
is this movie about cocks?
Heh, someone brought up the Drive soundtrack. When I watched the movie I thought I'd been trolled because the songs were laugh out loud stupid. The score was cool, though.
I've finally seen Only God ForGives and I loved it for the most part. Cinematography, visuals, production, soundtracks, I think it was pretty good. I also totally understand most of early (Cannes festival) critics saying it's the worst film ever made. Only God Forgives is a film you either get or not : it's about what you get, not what you see. If you get why Chang "is" God, if you get Julian's visions and why we see his hands a lot, if you get how the colors codes matter (white / black shirts, red / yellow backgrounds, etc) the film is just awesome, in my opinion. It's not at all about being smart or not, once you figured who Chang is and what is his purpose it's pretty straightforward from there.
The only scene I didn't get though was when Julian lost his shit with the two guys and jaw-pull one of them : the scene feels unfinished and I don't really get what it was about. Otherwise, I've really loved the movie, and I also agree with some critics, it's definitely not a film for everyone, I'd say it's like some David Lynch movies, you either love them or hate them to the bone.
Only Thai films I've seen are the ones with Tony Jaa, Ong Bak etc.
It definitely has some neat visuals, and I kinda liked the scenes with the Mom even though they were uncomfortable. But I think this movie is overall bad.
It's trying too hard to be artful, and it fails to tell much of a story. I fell like I wasted my time watching something that could have been half an hour or less
It's like bad art is being rubbed in my face and I'm being dared to say it sucks.
Drive was much better.
This film could be re-titled: Ryan Gosling's Empty Expressions
Last edited by koljec; 07-26-2013 at 05:53 PM.
It depends of your tastes really, if you like the genre I can make you a list of "must-see" movies, but OGF is actually as far as a thai movie production as The Fifth Element is to Hollywood.
Holy fuck, I want that hour and a half of my life back. That was so weird, stupid, creepy, and I don't know what else.
I get such mixed feelings about this movie... Part of me feels it is misunderstood that's why a few people really love it as it may be directed towards them. Other part of me feels it's probably a pretentious piece of shit. Where the director is sitting there basically saying "I'm so much smarter then my audience look how arty I am" while the audience is sitting there thinking "pull your fucken head in mate you aren't that smart...
Any thoughts from someone who has seen it?
Last edited by DMK; 08-04-2013 at 10:00 AM.
Anyone that went in thinking Refn + Gosling = Drive 2 won't get it and will hate it.
I went in not expecting much based on what I read here, so I got a little better than I expected, it definitely was not what I was hoping for after the trailer. It was ok I don't regret watching it but it wasnt drive at all. I think I got it but maybe I didn't. If I had gone in with the expectations that were built by the trailer then I too would have been pissed off, for some reason I built it up to be some new Oldboy like awesome hammer fighting like movie which it was not
Really? I didn't get it, that's why I hate it... Come on
I watched it twice on the weekend just because I wasn't sure if I missed some undertones in my first watching. I get the artsy side of it, I loved the cinematography.. no matter how they want to twist it the whole thing left me wanting.
While beautifully shot, the movie was terribly lacking in direction and substance.
I went in wanting something of substance, not necessarily wanting Drive 2, but something similar. Both Drive and Bronson were stellar movies. Only God Forgives feels like a cheap riff on No Country for Old Men. His cop of justice feels like a half-assed Chigur.
Guess it's cool to hate on the movie because it doesn't adhere to the standard narrative forms. Refn is a master of his craft, of that it would be hard to argue, even if you don't like the style of the story he told.
Some people need more defined characters and motives, and one true hero or antihero. I can understand that, and why you would dislike this movie. Some like coffee, some tea, etc.
Some say that's it's too artsy. I wouldn't even call it an 'artsy' film, it's just Refn's style to leave aspects of all his players on the stage open to interpretation, and let you form your own opinions without being hit over the head with a forced character archetype. It's just another form of narrative.
I enjoy the style and non-predefined characters a lot, and the Bangkok vibe is a plus for me as someone who likes certain Asian cultures, so I'm going to commit movie heresy and say I thought this movie was better than drive, and I noticed Refn improving as a director and coming into his own a bit more.
If nothing else you have to be excited for someone who doesn't play it safe in Cinema directing/storytelling, because it's become really formulistic/safe recently.
For those that say it's pretentious, I just don't understand in what context you're speaking. To me some lone mortal that saves the world with no shades of grey to his character is pretentious. THAT is what feels fake and showy, and full of itself.
8.5/10 - biggest knock was the jaw pulling scene for some obvious reasons, but for all most films get wrong it's hard to let one scene reflect too negatively on some great aspects of the movie for me.
It was decent, but imho wasn't one of Refns best films.
Was like a poor mans version of David Lynch.
This vibrant defense of Only God Forgives is probably more potent with the people who did not see the film considering two of the main three characters are archetypal to the extreme. That kinda works for the cop, giving him an almost supernatural aura, but it is just unbearable with the mother. I maintain my original statement:
Refn shoots for super stylish Oedipus-fueled greek tragedy and in the end it is very well shot, very ballsy in how extreme the execution of the concept is, but it is also very very dumb. It's made even more frustrating by the fact you can feel a great movie was almost there. Sadly, it did not materialize.
While I'm not mad about watching this movie, it was definitely fucked up and I won't be watching it ever again.
The filmography was unbearable. I like Ryan Gosling, I do. I wanted to like this. I wanted to put on those Emperor's Clothes. But I couldn't.
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I liked it, the story arc was so different than anything I had ever seen. Would I recommend it? Probably not unless I knew they liked that style of movie. I don't regret watching it, I most likely will not watch it again.
I loved OGF but I totally agree about the film's flaws, Refn nailed it with Drive but IMO went over the board with OGF, him a european filmmaker trying to roll on Johnnie To / Won Kar Wai universes with neonoir setup was a long shot.
Very rarely will I turn off a flick, this was one of them. I like weird, and I really wanted to like it but I just could not get into it.
I don't understand the point of the mom character at all. Like, was it on purpose that she was the most stereotypical and cliched cunt in the world, or what? Movie was...pretty I guess? But my god there were so few redeeming qualities =\
So if i'm not a hipster will I enjoy this movie or not?
Only one way to find out.
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