Confirmed. They just wanted to troll all of us.
Bioshock Infinite Delayed Again - IGN
Confirmed. They just wanted to troll all of us.
Some new screenshots released though. i'm too lazy to go link them.
Delayed one month isn't a big deal. It's not like the release date got pushed from March 2014 to April 2014. Release is still only three months away.
Give Tuco negs to offset this injustice!
1 disc consoles, 3 discs for PC.
I have no idea.
directx 10, 11, and high res textures.
What the other 15gigs is, no clue...
Possible 1080p full res fmv? vs the standard 720 stuff for consoles?
Last edited by Caliane; 01-06-2013 at 09:56 PM.
PC games that come on disks still come on DVDs, not HD media. Hence moar disks.
I just read it is being released 3-26-13
is that true ?
or will it be in april ?
Last edited by Sean; 01-14-2013 at 07:55 PM. Reason: Unnecessary multi-posting.
Decent amount of gameplay (or "in engine" anyway) footage
I am so tempted to preorder this, but I never really liked the vanilla gameplay of Bioshock, I just loved the story/atmosphere. This looks like it may be more fun but I haven't paid $60 for a game in a long ass time. Part of the temptation of preordering is free X-com on steam too :P
I thought that video looked familiar... posted this past October. And it even had the old release date (which would have been yesterday)
Trailers like that make me way more excited for the game than more traditional trailers.
Some crazy preorder bonuses for this game.
Steams giving away a free copy of XCOM if they hit their pre-order goal (it's over 50% with 3 weeks to go) Amazon is giving $30 dollar credit towards a different 2K game. GMG has something like 30 dollars credit too. Go pre-order it on steam, I want my free copy of XCOM.
XCOM alone is worth the full price though. Give Bioshock away!
No idea why they're giving away such crazy pre-order bonuses. This game is obviously an easy purchase for anyone. So excited for it.
I wonder, if they fail to get close to the last goal, if there is going to be a huge rush of cancelled pre-orders through Steam and purchases of the game through other companies.
PC gamer spent 5 hours with the game and had a glowing preview in their latest mag.
They did the same thing with XCOM, and after the last pre-order bonus at Steam (Civ V) unlocked they spread it around to GMG, Amazon, etc. as well. May or may not happen this time since they are already offering Spec Ops: The Line, Bioshock 2, Mafia 2, Civ V, or Darkness 2 for free at GMG*. And just like XCOM, GMG vouchers aren't valid for Bioshock Infinite, but they do give you ~25% off in a way that doesn't violate whatever terms in their deal with 2K.
*-Definitely go with Spec Ops if you don't own it yet. Fantastic game.
Meh site compresses it a bit much. Let me put them up somewhere for download if you want to read it.
Download it here if you want to read it.
Last edited by Kedwyn; 03-04-2013 at 07:44 AM.
Go preorder this on Steam you wankers, I want my free XCOM!
Yeah, Levine wasn't even a part of the second BioShock.
As stated, yeah, Bioshock 2 was handed off.
Ken Levine the head of Irrational, started with Looking Glass Studios.
He worked on Thief: The Dark Project.
Founded Irrational. lead on System Shock 2.
Then created Freedom Force, Tribes:vengeance, and Swat4.
Then Bioshock. And now Bioshock Infinite.
The guy and Irrational has pretty damn good resume.
There are rumors of troubles with this game though. I haven't preordered yet.
Last edited by Disp; 03-06-2013 at 02:49 AM.
First, I loved Bioshock 1 and 2 for great gameplay. That said, and I know I'm in the minority, I don't understand why everyone says the story in Bioshock 1 was so amazing. It had a great world and atmosphere but the plot was almost nonexistent. The great gameplay was the driving force and the plot was only there to move it along. There was one good plot-twist but because the plot was only a vehicle the twist didn't really matter all that much. Bioshock 2 was the same as 1 except it didn't have the plot twist but didn't really need it (and 1 didn't need it either). Again, great games, great atmospheres, can't wait for Infinite, but I just don't get the people talking about how good the story was in 1.
My main drawback to Bioshock 2 was there wasn't a single thing really new or innovative compared to 1. Just more of the same which was fine for me in a game series this good. Infinite clearly has something new at least in the new world and new atmosphere department so I'm pretty excited.
I don't think Bioshock 1 was ever that highly praised for its story, though it was fantastic up until after the encounter with Andrew Ryan (it went all downhill after that and really could have ended there). Bioshock 1 was mostly lavished with praise for its amazing as fuck atmosphere. Everything about the atmosphere just blew everything else the fuck away at the time.
Bioshock 2 really shouldn't be brought up in any conversations when making comparisons between of quality between the original Bioshock and what Infinite might be. Again, Bioshock 2 was made by a completely separate studio known as 2K Marin while Bioshock and Bioshock Infinite are from Irrational Games aka 2K Boston (and Demiurge Studios helped with the development). 2K Marin is helping with Bioshock Infinite to get it shipped, but the real creative force behind the original Bioshock is at the helm again (and didn't participate at all in Bioshock 2).
Last edited by Sean; 03-07-2013 at 10:06 AM.
I'll even go so far as to say that Bioshock 1's gameplay was far from stellar. The use of plasmids was too restrictive and more-often-than-not gimmicky. There was the occasional "aha!" moments but you could go through the whole game on the hardest difficulty never using a plasmid and be fine.
Like Sean said, the real genius behind Bioshock 1 was its atmosphere and ambiance. Everything was consistent and high quality. The world was well thought out and executed masterfully. It more than made up for the other shortcomings of the game.
Man people that hate on Bioshock 2, I just don't get it. If anything it was a 9.5 down from Bioshocks 10.
Anyway, I already have all the pre-order bonuses for this game. So, I'm wondering where should I buy it? Do they have a Collectors Edition? Maybe a GMG awesomsauce coupon?
More like a 7 down from Bioshock's 8 imo.
Definitely agree with Bioshock being all atmosphere with a weak story and gameplay. Bioshock 2 was more of the same, except without the atmosphere.
I still have faith that Ken Levine will make an actual successor to System Shock 2 one of these days though.
Last edited by Vorph; 03-07-2013 at 05:03 PM.
Atmospheric storytelling is still storytelling. Story is the whole package.
BS1's gameplay was shit. And of course everything after the Ryan reveal is near complete shit. As that one blog about how "it should have ended" put it. And was of course completely correct.
BS2 improved the gameplay a TON. The story is better then people give it credit for. Its a spoof on cults and communism. A bit less meat then BS1. the real issue is the tangents and a bit of absurdities. The mary sue Big sister was a big meh. Sinclair getting a shitty ending. Same with the fishtank guy... Missteps. while the little sister level was pretty great.
If anyone gets an extra copy of xcom with their pre order I'll buy it off you.
Bioshock 1 is one of my all time favorite games. No other game since has had that kind of atmosphere or hooked me like the original. The story in my opinion was fine. Yeah the stuff after the twist could of been done better especially the way you turn yourself into a big daddy. The voice acting was top notch as well. Bioshock 2 has better gameplay but the graphics to me were worse than BS1. I was just happy to step into Rapture one more time though.
I still think they should of called the new game Aero Shock..although from the videos it looks like the main guy in this story is from Rapture. There is a quick scene in one of the trailers that shows the Rapture tower in the ocean and a guy in a row boat moving away from it. Might be wrong but thats what it looks like to me.
You get dropped off at the tower. There's a promo vid that shows the whole sequence.
yeah, I can't say I understand why they felt then needed the "bio" and that the "shock" wasnt enough to denote the brand.
Yeah, maybe there will be tiein to explain it.
I always assumed the first "bioshock" was a reference to plasmids. There are still plasmids in this game but they're called something else.
Nod nothing bio about water more than anything else. Biospheres IRL are all landbased for the one's I'm familiar with for example.
"Bathyshock" (bathospheres, etc) just doesn't have the same ring. Sounds like taking a shower while your dickhead roommates flush the toilet or something.
IIRC bio is the latin root for "study of life" or something to do with life. Pretty sure it has nothing to do with water...
-ology is "study of". Bio- "being life".
Yeah, plasmids are adam and eve. Adam being the mutagen found in the sea slugs. Eve.. I don't remember exactly what eve was other then the fuel to use the powers, after adam mutated you. Bio definitely is referring to the perversion of life created by tampering with their bodies and minds via Adam.
I think tonics are implied voodoo or something in this one?
"ADAM is the canvas and Plasmids are the paint"
I swear if this game turns out to be shit, gaming will be dead to me.
Every dev interview I've watched has left me wanting more. I especially like the ones where they discuss how they've handled Elizabeth. I will be extremely shocked if the game turns out to be less than stellar. The only caveat to this might be pacing a la Andrew Ryan Syndrome. It also seems like they're attempting to give the player a ton of freedom and that can have the unfortunate side effect of screwing up the pacing and story delivery.
Nevertheless, this has been my most highly anticipated game for the past two years. I can't wait.
52% to go for the third Steam preorder reward (free copy of XCOM: Enemy Unknown).
if i had to take an educated guess, i'd say "bioshock" refers to peoples' confused responses to these scientific innovations.
Looking forward to this game since it was announced, I really expect to be thoroughly satisfied with the change in atmosphere. Best idea for them was to get away from Rapture and looks like Columbia might just out do Rapture, we'll just have to see. Have a good feeling about Infinite.
Just pre-ordered my premium edition. I'd happily pay $20 bucks for a Bioshock art book since the art and ambiance are what has made this series amazing. I absolutely cannot wait to play this game. Why the hate for Bioshock 2? I understand that the first one seemed a bit anti-climactic after Ryan but I thought the gameplay and story in 2 were still really nice and cohesive.
Had to replace my GTX 470. Picked up a 7850hd for 170$. Only bought it because it comes with this and Tomb Raider for free. Basically 100$ worth of games. Hoping this will be as good as Bioshock 1. Wasn't a fan of 2.
-Last I checked. reviews are generally lackluster and behind equally priced Nvidia products.
-On message boards that are fairly agnostic about brands, I've seen quite a bit more chatter about various games having performance and/or optimization related issues with Radeon than with Nvidia.
-Physx still isn't happy with Radeon, though I've heard rumblings about them moving towards a solution.
These things tend to go in cycles, so I'm sure EVENTUALLY AMD will come even and/or drive ahead, but they're not there now.
With current drivers, I would say the price/performance ratio of AMD and Nvidia products are essentially equal. Physx is obviously not available for AMD, which hasn't effected many games (although I did kind of miss having it in Borderlands 2). I have gone back and forth between both companies for years, and I think the compatibility issues are grossly exaggerated. Call me biased, but as long as the hardware is comparable, I will go with AMD. I like to support the underdog, and I've had a few Nvidia chips die on me (9800GT and 7800GT if I recall).
a few years ago most games were optimized for nvidia so ati's popularity declined a bit. right now i'd say amd is the superior gpu brand because you get more bang for your buck.
AMD has pissed me off by not having crossfire support in new releases that next computer is going NVIDIA.
From past experiences I feel it is safe to say compatibility issues are not grossly exaggerated and that "bang for your buck" doesn't adequately account for the "firmware" dildo ATI/AMD 'bangs' in your ass every few months. Or maybe it does after all... I should not spend more time syncing my card to my system (to best accommodate each new game) than I do playing the game itself (only happened once -- fuck ATI driver support).
Needless to say after 2 ATI builds and 3 Nvidia builds. From here on out (barring gross quality/pricing changes) I'm sticking with Nvidia.
PS. I had an Nvidia card burn out from poor ventilation (my fault) and 30 minutes later I had a brand new card coming my way (only had to pay shipping).
At 96% for a free copy of XCOM with your preorder of Bioshock on Steam. Thanks for the free game, fellas.
IGN already has their review copy and it will be posted Thursday. Getting review copys this early "usually" means the game will be good.
Yeah, same thing applies to movies/music. You're not going to release anything if your game is shit. If it's good you want reviews to hit on release if not before.
I figure it'll be at least half as decent as Bioshock, which is good enough. My standards are pretty low, and I really liked Bioshock a lot when it released.
This is probably my most anticipated title this year. I'm excited its finally almost here.
Barring the $500+ bracket, ATI haters are clueless - especially quoting driver issues that 10:1 since 2009 severe driver issues have been Nvidia over and over again.(not shocking since ATI almost entirely follows industry standards and Nvidia shortcuts their drivers ala 3dfx)
Just like Tuco quoting no Crossfire support in new releases - EVERY ATI reference board has Crossfire, a handful of companies offer nonCrossfire variants at $20 or so of a discount vs the same card with Crossfire.
I'm generally building a machine a week between friends, family, and some income supplementing and bench them extensively - unless you're going for the topend they're basically neck in neck unless you are only going to play 2-3 games that have a preference otherwise within a $$ bracket you'll win some and lose some game dependent. (Even sometimes with the topend my own 7970 runs Skyrim better than my GTX 680 rig otherwise identical machines - and with better color saturation IMO on my 60" plasma (and if anything the ATI rig should be running worse since its the wife's primary so I don't monitor TSRs etc as heavily)
On Infinite - hopefully my trophy obsession doesn't start me too far behind will be getting PC next month but getting PS3 for trophying first, not seeing any sign of midnight release announcements yet.
FYI: If you are not buying this on Amazon as of today, you are doing it wrong
FYI we have added XCOM: Enemy Unknown to the Amazon Bioshock Infinite Pre-order offer (Digital). Customers who pre-order Bioshock Infinite will get: A credit good towards the full price of XCOM, usable only on XCOM, in addition to the $30 credit towards more 2K games, when the game launches.
I'm fairly certain that this makes our offer the most compelling in the channel
Have we learned nothing from pre-ordering other games before we see reviews?
this may be the first game that I am pre-ordering...really impressed with everything that I've seen so far and never really played bioshock before...really cool stuff.
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Last edited by Caliane; 03-19-2013 at 06:07 PM.
Preordering EVERYTHING willy-nilly is a problem, preordering a handful of games that you have faith in is not foolish in the slightest (even when they don't give great promotions like Infinite is doing).
Not to mention how valueless reviews have been recently - between many reviewers artificially inflating games and a handful artificially deflating them to garner attention. I'd rather play a game and be part of the reviewing process than be a month and a half late to the party when metacritic will have hashed out a realistic review number.
Ya I agree. Bioshock doesn't need multiplayer.
Did anyone have XCOM unlock so they can download it now on steam? It doesn't show up on my licensed game list or available to download. I've restarted steam a couple times and it's still not available to download.
Started playing this last night since it was leaked for PS3 and I'm completely underwhelmed after the first hour or so. Zero backstory about your character, zero reason why you're in the place you're in, and for me, zero motivation to keep playing. I hope this is just an extended intro sequence and you eventually get something, because right now I give zero shits.
Gorgeous game though.
I guess the original had more mystery to it. You were in a place basically alone, with monsters trying to kill you, and you were surviving while figuring out WTF is happening. In this one, you're dropped off at a dock by random people, you're taken up to "heaven" which is well-populated and you have to find a girl for... some reason... and some people want to kill you, some don't. It just seems confusing.
didnt the intro clearly explain, you are a convict, how is given a chance at freedom, if you do a job for a guy? the job being go get the girl, and bring her back.
Guess I could have missed that part. You still ascend into what is basically heaven after 2 minutes and start drinking random potions, using magic and shit, without your character so much as batting an eyelash at the idea. Just seems like stuff at the beginning could be expanded a bit while still maintaining the mystery.
Another thought: the range at which turrets can fuck you up is way too far. A few times I was getting shot and I couldn't even see where I was being shot from. Oh, and I had enemies melee me through walls a couple of times.
Last edited by Lenas; 03-19-2013 at 08:14 PM.
It rather sounds like you don't WANT to like the game. Certainly not a fanboy, nor even just ambivalent.
Not sure what baggage you're carrying, but unless you can find a way to shed it, this will have been a wasted purchase, which, you being human, you'll blame on Irrational Games.
There's no baggage. I played both of the previous games and though I didn't finish either one, I also didn't have any real complaints. Being critical of something doesn't mean you're actively trying to dislike it. If that was the case I never even would have started the game.
I want to like the game, but saying that I felt anything other than confused/unmotivated after a bit of time playing would be disingenuous. I'm not giving up on it, I just think a little more information at the start would have been beneficial.
I've watched the ending of the story, just didn't play it myself. Irrelevant anyway, the story lines are not related. I'm gonna play more tonight and keep an open mind; I'm sure the game will end up good, I just think so far the protagonist is far too accepting of the weird fucking situation he's been put into. It would be nice if the game explained what a glowing liquid was, or explained on some level how they work, before you drink it without question and find yourself shooting ravens out of your fingertips. Or before you grab a hook and automatically have the ability to jump 50 feet through the air and just say, "Huh. Must be magnetic."
are you fucking with us right now?
You really want a 40min exposition info drop to explain all the random game physics shit?
BS1 certainly had many problems, so, this one having its own, is very possible and likely. especially with the "troubled" development. But some crazy talk coming out of your mouth.
Last edited by Caliane; 03-19-2013 at 10:23 PM.
I don't want a 40 minute explanation. I would have like a 5 minute intro to the character before I was dropped on to a rowboat and sent up to heaven. I also understand how plasmids/vigors are supposed to work, but a new player to the series would have no clue why you can pick up a vial of hypnotic and start chucking flame grenades. The game has audio recordings scattered throughout the levels; one of those near the first vigor you find would have been more than adequate to explain the system to a new player. Maybe there was one somewhere and I missed it.
In a sequel, there's always a fine line of balance between not insulting your fans who've played the previous games, and accessibility/quality of life items for players new to the franchise. I'm not defending the choice they made, but I'm also biased. I played the previous games, I understand the meta. I'm, personally, ok with Little Jimmy who picks this up without playing the others first getting fucked.
-The fact is, you've played the previous games, yet are bitching about not being told what a plasmid is/does.
-What intro the game gives, you apparently missed/ignored/fucked off through (by your own words), yet you bitch about not having a clue what's going on.
-You know damn well from past experience and watching trailers where you are (hint, not heaven), yet insist on calling it that.
You're not painting yourself in a good light. Not to mention that most of us, in this thread, ARE fans of the series, and are going to be more persnickety about stupid shit Negative Nancys try to pull.
Bioshock is one of my favorite games. Partly because it almost had a 50's twilight zone effect, but also because of the detail in the surroundings and memorable characters. Holy shit Sander Cohen was awesome, and when he came downstairs after I built my collage of dead people photos and he walked down pretty much in tears of joy like he was accepting an academy award? Holy nuts! (No pun intended) I can count on one hand memorable characters/personalities in a video game. Sander Cohen... Number 1. Number 2 would be Arthas/Lich King in Warcraft/Wow by default of character development of a hundred years Other than that, it goes downhill fast.
Last edited by Utnayan; 03-19-2013 at 10:59 PM.
I'm with the mob; just stop posting Lenas.
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