well it is on NBC so clearly the answer is no hehe.
i saw a preview for the show's return and was surprised to learn it was still on the air. i saw the first two episodes and seem to remember the show was slammed by critics.
does anyone watch this?
well it is on NBC so clearly the answer is no hehe.
i thought this show was supposedly a hit? anyway, its fucking hilariously bad and the good thing about it is it knows its hilariously bad. feels like a throwback to the 80s cheese shows like manimal and alf. its really impossible to hate on it because its just so silly. seems every week they also throw in a star wars reference for nerd service. i am looking forward to its return, just to point out its silly.
I couldn't even get through episode 2. Not interested.
I started watching and then I started wishing the power would go off in my apartment.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn - In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming
"That is not dead which can Eternal lie, and with strange Eons even death may die" - H. P. Lovecraft
For scripted shows, it did well on NBC relatively. Much like Grimm: not the best ratings, but strong for NBC. Although Grimm is much more believable than Revolution ;p
I can't wait for Blonde Kristen Stewart to start crying again. Excellent drinking game.
I love it. But I admit they have lotsa splainin to do.
This show is pure cheesefest. But I still watch it because I am dumb.
Don't forget he had the google genius as a teacher his entire life.
The only thing that's really bothering me about the show .... is gas. I mean, do they need fucking gas for the choppers or not? If so, where's it coming from? If not, why did it splode like that? Also, why does the one guy need a gas generator, and does he need gas for that ... What about that car. OK so if we assume he doesn't need gas to keep it running for 15 years, that's great. But what about maintenance. Has he been driving it around for 15 years without so much as an oil change?
Oh yeah and I guess there was one more thing. If only one chopper needed the amplifier to run them both, why did she have to put her necklace on the RPG to make it work? Why didn't all the cars out there just come to life and take off?
OK I'm done now. I still like the show.
i finally got a link working for this. i would have watched it live, but i was watching the season finale of Hotel Impossible. anyway. this was a pretty cheesy episode.
so the death star... err the choppers are heading to the rebel base in 12 hours and when all seems grim, Han solo err Miles shows up to save the day. but he doesnt hit the exhaust port... err the power amplifier. so its up to Luke... err i mean danny to use their one last shot to blow up the dea... err chopper. and it does. and the chopper as it fell started making the fail sound effect from Empire strikes back when Han's warp drive gets disabled.
god i love this show and the stupid kid gets strafed at the end too. i knew when they spent 10 episodes looking for him it was gonna pay off!
I wish they'd just done a show about Monroe and Miles setting off from the military base in search of Miles' brother (and how&why they create the militia into what it becomes) and ignored the whole reason for why the electricity stopped working (atleast until the end of the first season).
I have to admit to innapropriate laughter at the tragic death scene as the chick tries to do CPR on someone that just had 6 vulcan cannon rounds go right through their chest ;p
/agree satael. That seems like a very interesting story.
And Velk, I was laughing at the asian chick holding the sister back from rushing to his side. Like, what's the purpose of that, other than to look comical?
Kinda like that scene in Robocop where that exec gets shot 1000 times and the president tells them to call a paramedic.
this show is so silly, for a second i thought when dr julia was opening her son at the end, it was going to reveal that he was a robot inside. i thought she was gonna switch him back on.
I do like how they spent the entire first half of the season trying to rescue Danny, and then kill him off the episode right after they rescue him. But, I suppose now that Pretty Boy #2 has defected and will be able to join them, they no longer have room for Pretty Boy #1. Their merry band of rebels only has room for one of each type of cliche!
"It's a long story."
Just once I'd love to have there be an instance on one of these shows where the characters not in the know beat the shit out of the one who has all the answers but decides it's really not that important to sit down with everyone and let them know what the hell is actually going on. It is such a weak and unrealistic plot device.
To be fair, even in our timeline when they said cutlass ciera (or was it jeep sierra?) I instantly had an image in my head of that pos. Some makes and models stay famous, or infamous. Ford pinto anyone?
And its not like it was a young dude who said it. It was someone who you would expect to remember the cars.
I read an article with the creator kripke, who said they were going to have the mom explain the blackout fully.
It must be a really long fucking story if she can't find time in the (likely) 1-2 day hike from Philadelphia to wherever the fuck they went before splitting up. Considering it took ~12 hours on horseback, and they have the fat whiner with them, I'm sure it took closer to 2 days. (Er, forgot they had a carriage; yet still probably 15-18 hours in transit).
Last edited by Andaas; 03-27-2013 at 11:38 PM.
So if that amplifier was on that chopper, does that mean monroe lost his power amulet doohickey?. Wasnt that kind of a big risk to take?
Based on no other posts, I guess no one watched this week? It was a actually one of the better episodes. They started explaining a little of the how and why the power went off. Just enough to pique my curiosity and tune in next week. If this show was kind of interesting to you before, i recommend checking this last episode out.
i completely forgot this was on this week. ill watch it tonight and share my thoughts. wonder what part of star wars they reference tonight.
Looks like they ditched the star wars references and went in favor of a darker tone with much higher bodycount and less weepy eyes. This weeks episode, is actually good.
I actually liked the explanation for what caused the blackout.
Did they explain why they don't absorb the small electrical bursts in our nervous system?
Why the spoilers tag? The show already aired. The electricity virus I thought were already spread out before the big blackout. it just took the tower to activate it. I think
Just saw it today. Not at all impressed with the explanation, because it doesn't answer the thing that I've been asking ever since fatboy's amulet made the light house generator start running, and has really been bothering me since the helicopters took off. What about gas? i had pretty much convinced myself that these amulets magically created power and eliminated the need for normal maintenance. But now that we know what's going on, that's out the fucking window.
Also, i'm still slightly bothered by the lack of diesel engines, which do not require a spark to run. Though, before they started using cars and choppers, I had convinced myself that diesels probably did work, but no one could make more diesel fuel.
Oh and did she say the microbes sucked electricity, or energy? Cause I thought she said energy, and if that's the case, they should have lost fire too. Sucking up electricity and not all forms of energy seems unlikely. Oh yeah, and lightning. I guess lightning is too much energy for them to absorb?
It occurred to me that since they're not replicating anymore, eventually the lights will come back on as the things stop working. I wonder what the expected life of those things are. 15 years is quite a long time for most machines.
Last edited by Hoss; 04-10-2013 at 04:06 AM.
I am normally not one that gets bothered by most plot holes. Heck, I'm so gullible that I don't even really see them half the time. With that said, it's these "wow all of a sudden no tech" story lines just drive me crazy. There are just too many work arounds that you would never be able to 100% kill every modern convenience. An EMP would definitely take out most electronic things, but the internal combustion engine primarily would still be around. Like you said, diesel engines would work perfectly fine in this world, and yet they somehow don't.
However, this storyline has a decent enough plot line that I can mostly ignore the driver of said plot. It's just too bad they just didn't do a fallout scenario and kept the same factions in play. Could have done the same story for the most part. Also, it's too bad they didn't make Randall a third level of complexity and introduce a third faction that actually has the most power of all. Instead, they just have him run to Monroe and be his bitch.
im pretty sure they are hinting that Randall is related somehow to randall flagg from The Stand. the episode with the black librarian, his library seemed to be full of only 2 categories. biographical and stephen king books. there was even a guy borrowing The Stand and the black dude tells him, thats a good one its about the end of the world.
Their plot device for how the power went out is still pretty dumb, but this series would have been 1000x better if they had led with that right off instead of keeping the cat in the bag for so damned long. Of course as said before, this series should have just led with Miles' and Monroe's adventures right as the power went out to begin with and nothing else.
I don't consider 13 episodes as so damned long. After watching Lost and BSG, it's actually a relief they did it so quickly. I do agree that the Miles and Monroe show would have been better.
I don't know whether it's the fact that the show has lowered my expectations this much or just because the episode heavily featured Giancarlo Esposito, but I thought this week's episode was perhaps the best episode the show has had. I especially liked the part with Neville's son, because the idea of the son being fooled enough to free Neville just seemed like the stupid sort of thing they would've done at the beginning of the season. I really never saw the reversal coming.
Though, I did find it amusing how there has been all this build-up to why the power has gone out and they give a 10 second explanation to the nanobots. I appreciate getting answers, but you'd think there would've been a little more lead-up to this "virus" when there has been zero indication up until now that that's what they were working on.
this weeks episode was pre-empted for me by people endlessly saying they don't have any further info on what happened in boston or who did it. Did it air earlier for some people? Looks like they're playing the same episode again for us next week, so I guess I'll be a week behind for the rest of the season.
PS, the terrorists interrupted TV, that means they won.
It was preempted everywhere. NBC has subsequently pushed the finale back into June.
Well, remember that when they discovered this stuff, they were working on a way to make free energy for everyone. So maybe the amulet has nothing to do with the nanobots other than creating an energy source they can't suck up. They haven't told us how the amulets work yet have they? I think all we've seen is that they can be remotely activated and tracked.
woooo, chesty mcgee from 24 is now on revolution. good times.
I can't tell if this episode was supposed to give Monroe some depth or make him even more two-dimensional. Regardless, at this point, they might as well have him grow a mustache so he can twirl it while coming up with his nefarious deeds.
i liked how he goes all the way back to his home town to take hostages and draw in miles then, says to his flunkes as he watches miles kill his other men and run into the burning building to rescue chesty mcgee and the other townies, "make sure he doesnt come back out of there" and then buggers off. i was like wtf, you arent going to oversee his death personally? wasnt that the whole fucking point of you going there?
I also like how Miles single handedly takes out the entire Monroe Militia that was at the town with ease, by himself, hiding behind a piece of TIN from flying bullets. Then all of a sudden their aim sucks for five seconds right around the Hostage situation, and then gets good again once Monroe leaves. God this show is so laughable on so many levels.
My favorite part is where Monroe after getting babydaddy news points the fucking gun at her shoulder. Hello people, take the fucking shot!!!
So is this getting a second season?
Ask Google, I did.
I think its because people just leave their TVs on the same channel after watching The Voice, and walk away,lol.
Who walks away and leaves their tv on for an hour?
Last edited by Cantatus; 05-03-2013 at 04:37 AM.
You know, this show gets a lot of grief but I think it's enjoyable with a "turn-off-your-brain-popcorn-mode" mentality. The characters are mostly likable, especially Miles, Gustavo, and the chick (what the hell is her name? who cares - rockin' bod). Some gripes about, for instance, why isn't there steam-powered vehicles in use was answered a couple episodes back -- and that was cool to see, actually.
Yeah, it's not great, but I'm honestly okay with a psuedo sci-fi adventure show getting decent ratings and renewed instead of, once again, getting canned in favor of another police procedural or shitty reality show.
i started off watching it as a comedic curiosity but it does grow on you and in the last 3 weeks its gotten less funny and more serious with good drama. its still fucking dumb. you simply have to turn your brain off to watch this show because not much of it makes sense. but heh. i actually watch this when its on and i no longer grab it off the net. so i guess it means i like it.
And, while I think they've taken Monroe in the wrong direction by basically turning him into a Bond villain, I do at least think the conflict has become more interesting due to him having electricity and us getting to see more of the world because of it. Like you say, the show is by no means perfect, but unlike shows like V and The Event, I do find myself actually enjoying it some of the time.
Last edited by Cantatus; 05-04-2013 at 05:11 AM.
But yeah, I definitely agree about the system desperately needing an update. They're clinging to a system that worked for about the first 50 years of television and refuse to adapt to a rapidly changing world. I moved two years ago, and from one place to the next, I went from knowing every network's channel number and when the stuff I watched was on (since I watched many shows live) to having no clue in the new place since I now let my DVR handle most things I watch and using Hulu or OnDemand for the rest. The closest I come to watching anything live is when I watch Breaking Bad, but even then, I don't start watching it until 20 minutes after the hour so I can fastforward through all the ads.
I'm aware of the criteria for pricing an ad-spot, thanks though.
Anyways, they've been aware of the Nielsen problem for years and are supposedly working on a new system, but who knows when they'll ever implement it. They already have better data from including some of the new sources, but the advertisers don't want it. I think it would be awesome if they updated their shit, and hopefully improve the quality of tv shows exponentially, but the main problem is the commercials themselves. They need to die. They don't sell product, they just fucking annoy your viewer. People already pay for cable tv, and ignore/ff/mute the retarded commercials. They need to go.
And I'll leave this derail at that. This thread is getting way more movement than it deserves, lol.
Just thought I would let everyone know the latest episode revolved around them being on a Steamboat.
This show is great. It's caused me to alter some of my prepping plans.
The episode before the "hometown" episode and this latest one were actually really good. They need to quit over correcting. Don't write yourselves into a corner by pitting three people against five hundred, then it's not bad.
the biggest problem with that scenario is, no matter how many times they say it, I just don't buy miles as a rambo billy bad ass type. Don't know what it is about him, but I don't buy it. If they had someone like van dam, segal, chuck norris, or jackie chan playing the role, I think it wouldn't be an issue.
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There are also major problems by having him be an alky
He's supposed to be an alcoholic? Holy shit, not sure if bad acting or bad writing. Just because a guy spent some time drunk running away from memories doesn't make him an alchy.
Hes something. This show while much better tham when it started is tossing out at least one WTF Lost mytery moment in each episode
Last edited by Astr0Chuk; 05-14-2013 at 09:29 PM.
just a fyi revolution is moving to wednesday at 8pm in the fall.
Rachel is so fucking awesome. Early in the series, I figured she must have just turned into a momma bear because of the circumstances. But now I'm thinking it just comes too easy and she must have always been like that. I bet she made Ben wet his pants on a regular basis before the blackout.
Man, this show certainly has its moments but at least it finally got to the plot point that had been bugging the shit out of me. I was wondering how Rachel and the old band could go with the, "we must stop Monroe for all of the terrible things he's done!" with a straight face knowing the whole time that they caused the blackout. Somehow I thought the collapse of human civilization and a return to a technological dark age was a little worse than being a tyrant to establish order in the chaos.
I'm 2 Episodes from being caught up, I also missed one of the carry over episodes from the break (Where the kid dies)--so, I'm missing pieces, but this is for the people that were following and stopped at the break because the show was awful.
Firstly, the show has gotten better. It's still not a "good" show, but it's gone from comically bad to mediocre. The writing can still be obtuse at times, but the plots, pacing and explanations have been pretty refreshing. The characters are far, far less one dimensional and cliche--though they are still pretty shallow. It's just a lot "less" shallow than before--This is partially because the writing is better and because the actors are doing slightly better with their parts. It's also because the shows focus is far less on Dany and more on Miles, The mother, hot Hispanic lady and Gus Fring. The acting is still very, very bad compared to shows like GoT, but its better than most network TV, so take that as you will.
Now for the electricity.
The electricity went out, as posted in this thread, because they made first generation nano-bots. Tiny virus sized machines that can take simple commands. From what I can tell, these were NOT originally planned to stop the electricity, rather they were just machines meant to reproduce and accept simple orders--the intention was to have them form electrical grids without wiring. They can be controlled in a robust manner as long as they have a central computer and broadcasting equipment controlling them (It also seems like they can communicate back to this central computer). So they can always deliver and conduct the precise amount of power needed to X or Y equipment--so essentially wireless, cheap, universally deliverable electricity for all (With a super AI computer controlling it). This amount of control ALSO allowed the bots to do be controlled for other tasks, like healing, vaporizing people and also shutting down things like electrical flow.
What seems to have happened is the DARPA guy in charge of this funding built a huge tower and took control of the nanites. His command was to simply absorb and block electrical signals. They do not explain why this doesn't affect the human body. Guessing they are going to "hand wave" and say the tower can send out signals that differentiate between electrical signals produced by living tissue and inorganic matter. Which given it's been established that the computer controllers of the nanites can have them do very complex tasks like bone surgery or tumor removal, this is not out of the established realm of the show.
It's revealed that all this advanced nanite control is based off of Google-guys programing (He didn't know about it, supposedly he developed super-magic algorithms and these guys stole it to control their nanites.). With a central computer and programming these swarms of trillions of nanites can be used to do just about anything. She even called a book with code on how to control the nanites to do certain functions like a "spell book". So pretty much it's like the nanites have made our world into a giant video game, and anyone who can program a complex enough code to control billions of them with super-advanced magic algorithms can do just about anything.
This also explains why things work without shorting out when the lockets are around. This isn't said yet directly, but I'm inferring that the lockets aren't just a switch that shut the nanites off. Rather, much like the "control" computers which healed Dany's brother, they are little control systems which direct the nanites to power machines around them--the reason why the machines don't short is because it seems that the nanites can relay information back to the control system in order to be directed (This is the only way I could explain how the healing ect worked--the nanties are in constant communication with their control center.)...So the locket isn't shutting the nanites "off" at all, rather it's changing their programming so they are using the tiny amounts of stored power to give the equipment around them enough juice to turn on without being fried. (Which was their original intent, to be able to deliver electricity through the air and universally to all machines.)
I guess further hand waving will allow things that run off fuel to work with this, too? Maybe the nanites just push helicopter blades around and shit, I don't know. Anyway, still plenty of plot holes, but I was pleasantly surprised at them making a "tolerable" explanation--even if it is well within the "magic" territory still. At least if you can believe we had computer's advanced enough to control trillions of individual units in perfect harmony, that only occupy the size of a thumb, and a super advanced AI to direct it all, it's not out of the realm of possibility. So they've moved from "magic" to "Science Magic". Or just very very loose Sci Fi.
Anyway, TLDR. Show has gone from laughable horrible, to "mediocre" (It really has improved MASSIVELY)--which given how little Sci-Fi is on, makes it watchable for me. It would be better if they stopped doing bullshit like one guy taking down twenty but then when two "boss" characters meet neither of them can hit ect. But meh, at least it's not laughable now (Well not ALL the time, it has it's moments).
Last edited by Lithose; 05-28-2013 at 07:19 PM.
So you are saying the show has improved a lot and looks to finally be going the direction everyone had hoped it would.
This of course means it will be cancelled now....
the last two episodes were pretty good. id say for broadcast TV its probably the best sci fi TV show since i cant remember. though they still do throw in the same old cliches lazy writers like to pull. ya know like the captured female being told to put on a pretty dress. they already did that a month or 2 ago on The Following, they did that years ago on Lost and they did that in Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Lithose, you have put more thought into how it works than anyone actually associated with the show. Little bit of a spoiler, but you'll find out for sure in an episode or 2 that engines still need gas to run even with the lockets. That was very disappointing to me. Don't forget the first locket we saw came on and cranked up a generator automatically and turned on a light that was hundreds of feet up. If they're going to make this work, they're going to have to explain all of this as well as lightning and where all the fuel, lubricants and spare parts are coming from. i don't see any way jet fuel would be good 15 years later.
No offense but the show still sounds pretty awful even after the explanation.
My Wife and daughter love it.. I watch the first 5 minutes and zone out.
Judging by the previews, after next week we won't have to worry about the effects of the power being off.
Watched the latest episode and thought it was pretty good. I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with the "Power all of the sudden comes back on, what happens" plot.
if they could make little power lockets and use them without trouble, then this one in a billion chance of setting the world on fire line is moot.
Im going to hope that nuke control systems arent coded to fire on an unexpected reboot.
I have a feeling what they are talking about is that something could malfunction with those nanite things. I think that's why they were showing all those electrical storms.
Was that starbuck?
Interesting ending though the gitmo angle was a bit facepalmy.
Also not sure if that episode was a homage to stephen king or to 24. Starbuck, aaron and a "patriot" madman were from 24
Last edited by Astr0Chuk; 06-04-2013 at 03:03 AM.
It bothered me that the lights just came on. What is generating electricity?
The nanobots? Werent they originally developed as a free energy source?
What I don't get...will they run out? Do they generate their own?
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