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A few sources tell me that we will know who will direct before the end of the year. David Fincher is the name that has been thrown around lately, and I don't think it's too far fetched. These past year he has been working with Disney to get a remake of 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea made, so who knows, they might offer him Star Wars instead since that would be less of a high budget risk.
Deadline Hollywood is usually the best site for reliable Hollywood news.
Dude who wrote Toy Story 3? Me rikey. Me rikey a lot. Now hopefully it's Vaughn directing and this might have a shot at being awesome.
I dabble a little in the film industry due to my job, and I have a few friends and know a few people who are in high places of the industry. As long as they don't make me sign a a non-disclosure agreement, I can bring some juicy details about stuff coming out every once in a while.
Excited and scared at the same time ! Really want to know what content they will use for these new movies, there have been so many books after Jedi they could draw from, or will tey try and come up with something "original?"
As i said in another thread i would love to see Grand Admiral Thrawn in these movies.
I am hoping for the best, The guy that wrote Empire will be back to write another and they guy that wrote Hunger games is writing another..they havent said which ones 8 or 9 those two will fight for.
The vibe at Disneyland this week was incredible. It was the first time in awhile I saw the look on peoples faces in the store smiling and buying the new shirts ( not one having fuckall to do with the Prequels) the stormtroopers walking around asking people for their idenification was great too. Xmas and Star Wars theme cannot be beat.
I think Edge is the only one that will be dissapointed with whatever direction they take ep. 7.
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Although now there's a generation of 18-21 year old girls who are totally into Star Wars...
I agree totally with you Hoss and Dacianprick. I have read all the main story books since the beginning and feel like all that was wasted and GL basically stole money from me for it. I dont know how they could possible not use some of the stories from the EU...some of them were fantastic. I have a feeling that these writers(cross fingers) wont let that go completely to waste. Maybe they will use some the overall stories as their base for the movies. Well i hope anyway.
Lolwut. I enjoy Star Wars but I've never gotten into the novels, just like the other 90% of people who like Star Wars. Disney can say the books never happened and I can't imagine that affecting the popularity of future sequels even slightly.
Haha .. if George Lucas had put as much creative energy into making good movies as he does into figuring out ways to piss off the most ardent fans of the franchise, the prequels might actually have been worth half a fuck.
Oh wait, I realize I just used creative and George Lucas in the same sentence. Nevermind.
I could go on a long spurge, but the hunger games was easily one of the lamest and most boring action/whatever movies I've ever seen. I just didn't like it in the slightest, and it felt completely predictable. The characters had less depth than a knocked over tree.
Lol then ask yourself what movie you would rather watch? Phantom Menace or
the Hunger Games
Oh fuck, who am I kidding. I'd rather watch Twilight than suffer through "Annie and Jar Jar" stumbling and bumbling around again.
Counter proposal: I go home and jerk-off
Hunger Games was a pretty well written adaptation considering how shitty the source material is.
David Fincher doing a Star Wars movie would be awesome. You are not your fucking lightsaber.
wasn't the EU just green lit, ok'd fan fiction? in that light is KoTOR considered EU or real history?
The bulk of Star Wars lore is EU, and George Lucas is a cunt.
I'd be happy with anything better than 1-3, and I pray they don't make it a non-stop green screen action flick.
I'm thinking the director of the Hunger Games struggled, because it's book 1, the movie has no real ending, it just stops. Better screenwriter may have made it a better movie.
Who's going to be doing creative control or w/e for the movies if they're going with multiple writers across the different films? Someone has to be masterminding the continuity/overseeing the progression of the IP, or it'll just wind up being a jumbled mess and bound for a reboot a decade from now.
Counter proposal: I go home and jerk-off
Most the EU is shit. Real shit. The only decent parts of the EU are the Zahn trilogy and that comic series where Luke goes Dark side and the emporer has clones, and that comic was just ok.
The rest is garbage and I'm glad they're throwing it out.
And 99% of the people who know Star Wars have no fucking clue that Han married Leah.
(PS: when I say EU, I really don't consider the KOTOR stuff which had a really cool story to it and I hope they make movies out of it)
EU was pissed on by the prequels anyway.
IMO this movie will be mostly about Leia's eldest son, who is Luke's first and most powerful apprentice. He'd need to be about 35, so I'm thinking this guy:
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Whoever that handsome black fellow is, I can say with certainty that he looks nothing like Billy Dee Williams.
Also, has anyone heard anything about someone from the new movies getting in touch with Billy Dee to play Lando again? I haven't heard anything about him, just about Hamil, Fisher and Ford.
Lando is barely in the series with Jacen as Darth Caedus, so they could write around him. Wouldn't be the first time a movie has left something out of a book series.
Pretty sure they're going to completely avoid the EU stuff. If they stick to the 20 year between trilogies, than it will land in the time frame that Luke marries Mara Jade, and when the Solo kids first join the Jedi Academy on Yavin. The time frame is pretty open to anything for the first movie. However, 5 years after that is when the Yuuzhan Vong invade the galaxy, and that lasts for the next 5 years. That's a pretty huge moment in the EU, as many important people die, like Chewbacca. This would fall within the second and third movies.
It looks like they will destroy the EU to be honest. Oh well, I enjoy the books, but I am not a lore Nazi, so I couldn't careless as long as it is good.
Some of the EU stuff is decent but a lot of it is just sanctioned fan fiction that got published. A lot of it is just not very good. Also they did bring in a bit of the EU expanded stuff into the prequels so I wouldn't completely rule out characters etc just wouldn't count on wholesale adaptation of the EU stuff to film.
Hopefully they don't use any of the EU crap, and I'll even tell you why I hope that. If they wanted to insult you with another cash grab, AGAIN, that's exactly what they would do. If E1-3 proved anything it's that people will willingly give George Lucas money multiple times over just to bitch about what an asshole George Lucas is for taking their money.
Me, I'm not hard for Darth Darth to sprinkle my face with his warm dark insults. I just want Star Wars to be good again man. Hopefully they write a good final trilogy and redeem the name of Star Wars before Lucas dies.
It shouldn't be that hard to do
Regardless of the direction they take 7-9, not making a trilogy of movies using the pure badassery that is Grand Admiral Thrawn is a complete travesty. So fuck this shit.
Lets all be honest here, If its good we will love it no matter what kind of source material they use. If they stick with GL's view that the EU is no longer true lore, they could still use pieces of it as they see fit and move the timeframes around. I will hold off judgement until at least 7 comes out and i get a feel for the direction they are going. We need more Star Wars, the little that we have out there is just not enough. What the new generation of Star Wars fans know more than anything is the Clone Wars cartoon and we need to bring those fans into the movie fold. How Disney bridges that gap is another thing.
So is Thrawn part of EU or not? Was he created by Timothy Zahn for the Heir to the Empire trilogy or did he exist in SW lore before then? And if he was a Timothy Zahn creation, since he was in Tie Fighter, does that mean he, as a character, is accepted as canon?
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Thrawn was a Zahn creation but i wouldn't hold my breath on seeing him. Technically, the only thing from EU that has ever touched the big screen is the name Coruscant. That was thought up by Zahn too in the HTE trilogy.
The Hand of Thrawn duology was actually pretty good also.
I suppose something involving Thrawn isn't likely to be bad though.
"The original drafts of Return of the Jedi called for the second Death Star to be built in orbit around Kashyyyk by Wookiee slave labor. It wasn't until later drafts that the setting and characters were changed to the forest moon of Endor and Ewoks."
Thats from the wiki... now how far along the concept of Kashyyyk was in the script before George was done wiping his ass with it one will never know.
"Good" EU is all pretty much all located within the same time periods, either around the Clone Wars (Shatterpoint, Republic Comics, Republic Commandos, Clone Wars show), all the way back to KOTOR times, or Empire Strikes Back plus about 7 years (Thrawn, X-Wing, Shadow of the Empire, Dark Empire). If they wiped out all the rest it would be a big plus.
Now we know the real reason someone went to the dark side.
you know what ? that's perfectly possible
I've decided, after watching Star Wars 1 and 2 on Blu Ray, that I want to see a movie starring Master Yoda, in his younger ass-kicking days.
I can't be the only Star Wars fan that thought watching Yoda kick ass was actually really fucking retarded. Part of the allure of his character originally was the fact that he was an old and wise sage. Not some fucking ninja frog.
I'm fine with him being a badass. I'm not fine with him looking like a gummy bear with downs syndrome in the second movie. I thought he was fine in movie 3.
Luke was what, 19 or 20ish if I recall in A New Hope? You mean to tell me that Yoda goes from agile DBZ warrior fighting machine to slightly crazy basically useless (not an insult, because he was still badass) mentor in 19 years? He was 900 when he died as he stated to Luke when he died. He was already a senior citizen during episodes 1-3. His fighting was fucking stupid and had no business even happening.
I always thought of Yoda as being so strong with the force that his lightsaber would be more of an ornament piece than something used for combat. Back when Empire Strikes Back was out and Yoda was lifting X-Wings, I imagined the dude could probably grab 50 blasters out of people's holsters with telepathy and have them pointed at their faces before they could do anything when he was in his prime. I forget which Knights of the Old Republic game it was but they had a Darth that used the force to control 4 lightsabers at once and all I could think of was why Yoda wasn't doing something similar instead of being a jackrabbit on crack.
Yup. What he did with Yoda in 2 and 3 was a very poor choice, and anyone who likes the Star Wars mythos would probably agree. Yet another decision based on OMG THAT WOULD BE COOL and not good storytelling. I can't find the video cause google is just giving me recent Disney merger links, but there's a video of him and one of his top producer guys for 1-3 talking on a couch, and Lucas is like LOL AND THEN HE'LL FLIP AROUND AND BE LIKE PEWPEW and the other dude is just like "oohhhhhhh shit, what have I done..."
What gets me is it's like they ran out of ideas for what jedi could do, especially light side jedi. In the OT they can lift/manipulate things telekinetically, use the jedi mind trick (which is useless against other jedi, apparently), jump high (Luke in the carbonite room), and that's about it. Dark side guys can do that stuff, (force choke is basically telekinesis with an evil purpose) plus shoot lightning bolts. In the prequels they added force speed, but only used it in ep 1 iirc. Oh and I guess Yoda absorbed Dooku's lightning in ep 2. Not sure if that counts as a new ability, since apparently he forgot how when he came up against Palp in ep 3.
Granted, they apparently have other abilities, like limited prescience, but these are explored only a little ("it's why he appears to have such quick reflexes" during ep 1, or Palp "foreseeing" everything happening in RoTJ other than his own death).
There must be some more powers they could give Jedi without being too "wizardly" about it. Even the Star Wars video games are kind of lacking when it comes to new abilities that jedi might have, and they have way more leeway to do new stuff. Most of the force abilities in the games I've played involve buffs of some sort, or new lightsaber styles, or some variation on abilities we've already seen. None of which lend themselves well to a movie environment where we need to SEE what's going on.
So, since they had no ideas for a master light side jedi like Yoda could do other than telekinesis, they were forced (heh) to go to lightsaber combat for him, which didn't come out right at all.
Personally, I'd have had him using a lightsaber with the force, while he just stood there directing it with a condescending look on his face. But if that doesn't work for whatever reason, just have him be WAY more powerful than other jedi with telekinesis, like he could have entombed Dooku with rock from the walls in like a second, leaving him to try to escape by burning his way out maybe, I don't know. Or maybe he could create illusions of himself for Dooku to go after, anything but flipping around like he did, jeez.
I always assumed from the original trilogy that they were still using the force in lightsaber combat but just used it only to augment their defense. Like they could use it to augment the quickness and strength of their parries but any blows struck forward offensively were using just their own strength/agility. It would have been cool if Yoda had dueled and embodied that kind of Light Side and just shut down Dooku and Palpatine so hard defensively that they just realize they have no choice but to ignore attacking him directly and work around it in other ways instead of the frontal assault standoff. But yeah, that shit was stupid.
For a group of powerful beings that can see things before they happen, Jedi sure do lead with their jaws a lot.
GL had a whole set of books to dive into for material on what he wanted jedi to do in the prequals. There is so much new stuff that has been brought out, like force walking (a form of living out the past). The prequals were just sloppy and unimaginative.
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In the books , iirc, he had to fight a dark jedi master, for 1-2 days, that escaped from some system/planet.
At least that's what I tell myself, so I don't get upset :P
And isn't it funny how the one Jedi (Sith) who wasn't a warrior was the 1 Jedi that conquered the universe? George Lucas, YOU FUCKING SUCK AT STAR WARS.
It was pretty pimp when Yoda unsheathed his lightsaber for the first time by telekinetically lifting it into his hand.
I had all my EU books in a box and hadn't picked up any of them in 10+ years.
Tried to read the Jedi Academy series (with the sun crusher) again.
Wow, talk about horrible writing and a bunch of cheese throwbacks to the movies
I can see why I liked it as a nerdy star wars kid but that shit actually sucks.
It's got motherfuckin Heimdall in it. What could go wrong?
you guys seriously have never heard of wookieepedia?
edit: and I should have read all the way down..
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Wookiepedia is the devil. Everytime I click some link to it, I end up going to 20 other pages and end up wasting an hour lol. It's as bad as the TV tropes shit.
JJ Abrams to direct new Star Wars movie, according to rumor at least.
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I'm ok with Abrams. Star Trek 2009 was very entertaining, and 'Into Darkness' looks great, too. Hopefully he can deliver with Star Wars.
Abrams coming onboard pretty much confirms that Giacchino will be doing the score, too. That will be fucking awesome.
Abrams is a good choice. A damn good choice after reading Ben Affleck wanted to fucking do it.
Ben Affleck would have been an interesting choice. His first three movies were excellent. Argo was one of my favourites of 2012, in fact. I reckon he could have done a great job with Star Wars.
Anyone not Lucas can make a better film than the past 3. imo director isnt gonna matter nearly as much as the script. Crossing my fingers the CGI isnt over the top horrible and used sparingly.
Isn't a conflict of interests to be directing both Star Wars and Star Trek? Somewhere an alternate universe has blown up.
Lens Flare Wars.
But yeah Araxen, I wonder if he can really do both or just hand off Star Trek which would be fine too.
As for Affleck, giving a guy with 0 experience in Sci-Fi/Fantasy the biggest Sci-Fi/Fantasy franchise of all time is the most boneheaded idea I've heard.
He started in Sci-Fi. It was his very first job. And then after 25 years of experience directing everything from successful TV shows to award winning films, to teaching Lucas his love for Sci-Fi in College, he did Star Wars. Fucks sake. I'd love a good argument on this since it's all subjective, but print something that backs up your statement rather than destroys it.
Indiana Jones however, that might be a different subject all together.
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Ok, you defeated my argument completely. I didn't notice Kershner made a low budget made for TV sci-fi flick when he was a novice filmmaker. Shit.
Honestly, I think it's a dumb argument. There's been tons of directors who have entered genres that they've had little to no experience in and they've made some of the best flicks the genre has ever seen.
If the director is talented, they should be able to make it work.
Affleck has been around for long enough and he's proven his skills on three separate occasions -- I think we'd see a unique Star Wars film that would be a little different and a little braver in its ideas and concepts.
Maybe he might have fucked it up. I don't know. He couldn't do any worse than Lucas, though.
If he puts time travel in star wars, imma fucking shoot myself.
Well, at least Abrams is a big Star Wars fan. He’ll at least treat the franchise with respect.
Only spergy nerds claim that Jackson did a bad job on The Hobbit. If anything he is trying to expound on the works of Tolkien too much. Abrams, on the other hand, completely changed Star Trek from a thoughtful utopian view of humanity's journey into space, to a shiny cliff jumping sword fighting eyegasm that was out of touch with the source material. This could be good, hell it has to be better than Lucas' sad attempts, but I am much more skeptical now than I was previously.
I have a question regarding directors... Why do people make such a big deal over the director of a movie when shouldn't it be the writers who they should be worried about? I mean the director gets to dictate his "vision" on how the scene should look like but ultimately whoever wrote the story should be the one getting all the praise if the movie turns out to be epic no?
They're both important. But it's kinda like a good director can save a bad script, and a bad director can ruin a good script -- but it doesn't seem to work the other way around too often.
There are also probably more good writers available than good directors.
It doesn't matter who signs on or what they do, a lot of people are going to hate it. It will still make boat loads of money and be a financial success, but the hate will be strong.
Affleck makes good films. Regardless of having experience with sci-fi or fantasy, that alone would make me ok with Affleck. But Abrams is a really good choice, I'm ok with it.
Listen, I'm not saying I think Jackson did a terrible job. I fucking loved The Hobbit, I think it's visually one of the best movies I have ever seen. I just know a lot of butthurt people on these boards qq about it.
People on these boards cry about everything, it is not a good gauge of reality.
By people on these boards I think you mean fat people on the internet.
I'm cool with JJ..... i've enjoyed pretty well everything he has done. Has it been my favorite, no but he appears to create genius in every click whether it achieves it or not.... I think he'll take SW very seriously because it could put his name in the history books if it succeeds. Honestly, he's in a good position though... SW fans are hungry for something good. I'm sure they've felt shafted for years.
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