I saw the trailer yesterday and I am really really looking forward to it now. So that trailer added two solid reallies.
Been getting good reviews all around. I really enjoyed Hurt Locker, so I'm gonna go see this.
EDIT: F*CK I misspelled the title
Last edited by Feien; 12-07-2012 at 02:59 PM.
I saw the trailer yesterday and I am really really looking forward to it now. So that trailer added two solid reallies.
I feel the same way. When I heard they were making this movie I felt very "meh" about it. But the trailer makes it look very interesting. I'm eager to see it.
wow. it hasn't been that long since Osama was killed...this is pretty amazing...
Pre-Production for the movie had already begun before Osama was killed. The script was a very Zodiac-like movie about the hunt of Osama Bin Laden, but then news broke about Seal 6, so they adapted that into the story. It was very good timing for them.
Edit: Freudian slip.
Last edited by Feien; 12-08-2012 at 07:18 PM.
Rotten tomatoes has fantastic early reviews for it. Also says its apolitical, which is good.
Oh shit, Mark Strong and Andy from Parks and Rec are in it!
Bin Laden is still alive and hiding in Cananda.
Really looking forward to this.
Nope hahah. I just noticed it. Freudian slip I guess? I'm not doing too hot with this thread, first I mispell the title now this. Sigh...
Saw this last night. Probably the best thing I've watched all year. That said, I can see a TON of idiots getting butt hurt about some of the content.
Where is Lumie to tell us that Osama was already dead at least 2 years before this went down. Lumie come back to us
I was 'meh' on this, but I have recently heard this is best movie of the year material. I will definitely be seeing it now... whenever it is my fucking theaters decide to show it.
Living in the midwest really blows. The closest theater showing this is more than 400 miles away. The next closest is in New York.
Plus studies show that you fight better with a beard...
I saw this at a screening at a large O&G companies headquarters - pretty random. I'd never even heard of it until yesterday when I was invited. Turns out its not even released yet, and when it does it will be pretty limited.
Dude must have an awesome agent to get top billing
my opinion of the CIA was already pretty low but after watching this it pretty much cratered to the center of the earth.
these people are several magnitudes worse than the "terrorists" they interrogate and torture.
Last edited by Araysar; 01-04-2013 at 10:28 AM.
Just realized that the direct IS the as the hurt locker lol. Can only imagine how fucking insanely inaccurate this movie will be(hurt locker has got to be the dumbest fucking ive ever seen).
Pretty decent flick, though a bit long. Not a piece of steaming dog shit like Hurt Locker.
Nice to see some Hurt Locker hate, I thought I was the only one! Seriously why do people like that shit, are they that out of touch with reality?
Hurt Locker is the greatest super hero movie centered in the Iraq war.
Hurt Locker was gay as fuck but this is kind of cool.
Just the stealth helos alone make it a must watch for any SF nerd.
Man and I thought Argo was overrated. This movie is too recent from the events, nothing felt suspenseful, none of the characters were likable really and the main characters over confidence seemed just as dangerous as it was useful. Had this been a fictional account and from a different director I don't feel like it would've made much of a peep in Oscar buzz land, though recently people really do seem to love them some war drama.
The Hurt Locker was completely ridiculous but it was at least entertaining
characters were weak for sure. Bourne was better at dramatization. Not much intensity during the raid scene. I kept skipping some scenes, only to turn back for confirmation. Not a good thing.
I thought the movie was pretty good, but I was disappointed that I didn't get to see OBL's dead face.
I could have skipped everything but the raid and wouldn't have missed a single thing worth watching.
Counter proposal: I go home and jerk-off
I thought the movie was quite good. It was fairly straight forward, no surprise ending =P. I liked the lead up to the raid. The 'never say die' attitude added to the movie alot. the 'controversial' scenes didn't seem anything out of the ordinary. We know these sorts of methods were used and they didn't seem over the top really. It's not like they were being raped analy with broom sticks. I liked how the raid wasn't lit for our sakes and there was no background music. I will watch it again.
so why even compromise our ethics and lower ourselves to that level to obtain nothing?
how stupid do you feel now?
Well, saying the CIA is several magnitudes worse than terrorists is pretty fucking stupid.
Movie was lame. Discussing how terribad IRL organizations are in relation to how they are in the movie is also lame.
you're making the same mistake as the other idiot did.
we hold ourselves and our way of life to a higher standard. when we betray those principles in the name of the protecting those very same principles not only it makes us human garbage, but also makes us hypocrites. the terrorists at least dont hide what they are about. we know they are scum, they dont pretend to be anything else.
once again, why would you compare yourselves to them and consider it a victory if you are slightly "less bad" than they are?
p.s. also, waterboarding is now a "pussy torture technique"?
i remember a popular radio host who was saying that once too, he lasted 8 seconds and did a full 180 on that statement afterwards
Turns out the stunt wasn't so funny. Witnesses said Muller thrashed on the table, and even instantly threw the toy cow he was holding as his emergency tool to signify when he wanted the experiment to stop. He only lasted 6 or 7 seconds.
"It is way worse than I thought it would be, and that's no joke,"Mancow said, likening it to a time when he nearly drowned as a child. "It is such an odd feeling to have water poured down your nose with your head back...It was instantaneous...and I don't want to say this: absolutely torture."
"I wanted to prove it wasn't torture," Mancow said. "They cut off our heads, we put water on their face...I got voted to do this but I really thought 'I'm going to laugh this off.' "
Last year, Vanity Fair writer Christopher Hitchens endured the same experiment -- and came to a similar conclusion. The conservative writer said he found the treatment terrifying, and was haunted by it for months afterward.
"Well, then, if waterboarding does not constitute torture, then there is no such thing as torture," Hitchens concluded in the article.
btw, tell me, how do you exactly extract information from someone when you are torturing them by decapitation?
Back to the movie - boy has this movie found a lot of media attention. For a whole host of reasons.
Last edited by aychamo_aycono; 01-07-2013 at 11:00 PM.
Here I will try an analogy. When a dog eats another dog's shit its funny, cause hey its a dog and who gives a shit (no pun intended). When you eat a dog's shit, its disgusting and reprehensible. Why? Because you're held to a higher standard. The act committed is just as important as who is committing it. If you're too stupid to understand this, I don't know what to tell you.
The only scene in the movie I did not get (I'm a low brow curmudgeon who moonlights as a troglodyte) was the end where the protagonist is crying in the back of the transport. Why is she crying? Because her friend died? Because she indirectly killed women? Because she successfully turned at windmills? Because she's a female? Because she knows she's a 6/10 at best (knees too sharp)?
You didn't couch your statement in relative terms at first so even if that's all true that's not what you said. Also, do you actually know what an order of magnitude is?
Anyways, this movie sucks. The raid is less exciting than watching Harry and Marv raid Kevin's house in Home Alone, the bulk of the movie is plodding and unwieldy, the torture scenes are meant to be shocking but largely just stir disgust and contempt for the CIA.
I will even repeat it again, the CIA is several magnitudes worse than the "terrorists" they torture.
In the mean time, maybe you can tell us more about how water boarding is a "pussy torture technique". How did you come up with that one?
really wanted to like this movie but i couldn't get past the main actress being a cunt with an over inflated sense of self worth. Maybe its because i know people that act the same way as her in far less important government positions.
if you could ignore her scenes (which were 75% of the movie) it would have been pretty good.
edit-- after some thought i think the Seal team 6 movie on discovery channel was more accurate than this..bummer
Last edited by sumdain x; 01-09-2013 at 12:21 PM.
Was a pretty good movie. What made it even more awesome was an older black theater goer screaming GET SOME OSAMA at the end of the movie. He also proceeded to tell every theater employee he saw on the way out that this was some heavy ass shit.
Saw the movie last night and can certainly understand the criticisms. It is not a great movie, but merely just a good one.
I thought for a story that took an event that everyone knows about, and tried to introduce you to the people that made it happen, the character development was largely lacking. They portrayed Maya as simply an cunt with aspergers. After this and Hurt Locker, I think Kathryn Bigelow can make a great movie, but I am not convinced she can tell a great story. Her characters have no soul or charisma what so ever.
All the controversy about torture was overblown too. It was a reality, it happened, and then things changed. The whole thing was a documentary, showing the events of what lead to killing OBL. It wasn't social commentary justifying anything.
This movie is a 7 out of 10... maybe a 6. Skip it and watch a documentary. It will be shorter and more accurate.
Jessica Chastain and tactical espionage. Yeessssssssssss.
Carrie from Homeland is very similar to Maya, I wonder if she was loosely based off this CIA agent.
I'm surprised the movie didn't spend any time showing the amount of training the SEAL team did at the full-scale replica of the compound prior to the raid.
It was her fully realizing the culmination of 10 years of her life. They made it pretty clear she had no life outside of her job and her one and only job was OBL. It was equal parts emotional release, trepidation about the future, and confronting the fact that she might not have a real purpose or role to fill with her life now.
It is the same emotional roller-coaster people go through when they retire from jobs, get out of a relationship, or women have with postpartum depression. They realize their life is undergoing some serious change and they are not quite sure if they can handle it yet.
Solid movie, Jessica Chastain was awesome and hot as hell too.
Movie was okay, not great.
Anyone else bothered by how much music it stole from Syriana? It really took me out of it.
I was mostly entertained so I don't really regret seeing it but I doubt if I'll ever watch it again. What would be the point? It bottles my mind that they are throwing awards at this movie.
Saw this last night was mostly bored until the assault at the end. The seal team members whispering to the terrorists on the stairs was comedy gold though.
My highlights of the movie were just randomly seeing Mark Duplass and Chris Pratt. Could not shake off their characters in Parks/League.
No prob. I still haven't watched the 2nd season of Homeland. Sad to hear that it's more like 24.
I saw this movie last night and thought it was pretty good. My biggest complaint was how the movie jumped around so much. It seemed like they were more inclined to go through a checklist of "important" events rather than trying to create a compelling narrative. They used enough creative liberties with Maya that they could have removed a good number of extraneous scenes, particularly some of the interrogation ones, and made the movie flow better.
So I just watched this tonight and they didn't explain a couple of things. How is the girl recruited from high school? Is this movie BS, or confirmed? Also, why did they not keep the body and IIRC toss it into the ocean? It also doesn't go into why they released a fake picture of his dead body and why they still haven't released it yet.
Last edited by Wuyley; 09-12-2013 at 08:34 AM.
The official reason for a burial at sea is that it has the double advantage of respecting muslim tradition and not leaving a grave site that could become a symbol or a pilgrimage destination.
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