Why does the god look like the child of the rabbit from Donnie Darko and Mewtwo?
Why does the god look like the child of the rabbit from Donnie Darko and Mewtwo?
If this comes out in the US, you can guarantee they will dub it.
why no live action version? it worked for the Last Airbender.
Think I will just wait for the youtube that condenses the entire movie into 10 minutes without missing any relevant details.
Well Dragonball had a live action. I watched it on the plane from Cancun. It was the worst assault to my senses ever. It is almost like they intentionally tried to piss off anyone who watched the Dragonball show.
When exactly is this movie set though? That trailer shows Gohan going Super Saiyan, which means he hasn't trained with the Z-Sword yet, but it shows good buu just sort of hanging out and being a bro, which means Vegeta and Goku would already had to have rescued everyone who was transformed into candy and eaten when Super Buu ate Vegitto.
so the movie takes place after buu but before omega?
i suppose they prefer to forget DBGT ever existed and try to tell stories before the show went 100% retard
Only thing I remember of GT was the weird chrome planet thing.
Haven't watched anything in years. Watched the original series and I think all the movies that were out as of like 2004. I miss anything worthwhile in the interim? My nigga Broly come back at all??
Is that how Goku always sounds in the Japanese versions? That was pretty ridiculous.
Never saw any of the movies or the GT stuff, I liked the early ones from when Goku was a kid with a tail right up til he fought Buu I think, then I lost track of DBZ.
yeah buu is the end of DBZ. The movies are pretty entertaining, since they aren't crammed with long sections of filler like the series was.
Hoping this isn't the same movie as the last few where everyone other than Goku now is a trash minion until he gets there and takes over the majority of the fighting. Occasionally another character (vegita / gohan / piccolo / gotenks) makes a distraction long enough to power a spirit bomb.
Kind of wish they went with how the Cell saga was turning the show into where Goku was fading out and other characters mattered, but it was like a Final Fantasy game where you lose the main character for one scene. Old news I guess, but just a hope for the movie.
Well it is post-Buu where everyone is basically a worthless sack of shit compared to Goku
Movie 7 - The only one that vaguely coincides with your complaint, except Trunks and Vegeta kill Androids 14 and 15 pretty easily once they power up to Super Saiyan. After 13 absorbs parts from 14 and 15, he kicks the crap out of all of them, including Goku, until Goku summons a spirit bomb and absorbs its energy.
Movie 8 - Broly kicks the shit out of all of them, Goku included, until they start feeding Goku their power, which still isn't enough until Vegeta adds his own.
Movie 9 - Goku is dead. He saves Gohan from Bojack and gives him a pep-talk, but this movie is entirely on Gohan. While most of the z-fighters get their asses kicked, Trunks does Kogu in their initial fight, being then surprise KOed by Bojack. Vegeta also goes head to head with Bojack for a bit before being beaten
Movie 10 - Goku still dead. Shows up at the end to help Goten and Gohan, but the work is done by Gohan, Goten, and Trunks.
Movie 11 - Goku still dead. Movie is weird as hell, but iirc Goku doesn't get a cameo for this one, this one is all Goten and Trunks
Movie 12 - SSJ3 Goku is able to defeat fat janemba, both him and vegeta get their asses kicked by super janemba and have to fuse, whereupon the beat him easily.
Movie 13 - They all get their asses variously kicked by Hirudegarn. Gotenks is able to make him take a second form, SSJ3 Goku kills him with a Dragon Fist after Trunks cuts off his tail
So yeah, Goku is the main protagonist of DBZ, it's no big surprise that it would generally come down to him to save the day. The non-saiyan z-fighters are sorta just trash minions, but they've pretty much always been that way throughout the series. Tien and Piccolo have their moments of glory, Piccolo in particular saving Goku and Gohan's lives throughout the series, but it's the saiyans who do all the work.
That's one thing I never understood about Japanese voices on DBZ....why the fuck does Goku STILL sound like a 5 year old boy?
Hell, the japanese voice for fucking Naruto sounds older than Goku.
I don't care what DBZ does anymore since it gives the guys at DBZ Abridged more content for golden comedy.
Ironically, DBZ is one of very few anime's I find the Dubs voices better than the originals.
IIRC from my Toonami days the voice actor for Goku changed after the Freeza saga. I don't think it changed prior to that. I also recall preferring the original actor.
There were 2 different dubs by two different companies? One was referred to as the Ocean dub while the more recent was the Funimation. Always preferred the Ocean due to it being the first time I ever saw DBZ... Then they redubbed over them
Funimation - same scene as below at 25th minute
In general you're right though, the series is about Goku and always has been. The other characters get their time to shine, but Goku is the main hero.
Thread just turned gayer than sucking a mountain of dicks. ETA til Goku vs. Superman argument?
Last edited by Urgoslav; 03-26-2013 at 04:26 AM.
I was just really impressed with how long it lasted before turning in to every other DBZ discussion ever. "OMG SSJ8H# Wangflop would prawn MysticHangnail Jethroslav!".
It was inevitable, doesn't make it not disappointing when it happens.
They still use it to fill in time and for the specific scene; however, it's not as rampant like it is in the English dub.
Ive heard rumors that Gohan was supposed to be more powerful than everyone else naturally. His time spent training during the cell saga showed that pretty much. Its later in the series that his mom makes him study and basically become a normal person that makes his power level drop and make Goku the big good guy again, but hey whatever its DBZ and who cares, we get to see badass fights and and world destroying power in an awe inspiring way. Im down for whatever as long as it loooks cool.
tbh I like GT b/c power levels went up so much. I would love to see a fight with a god and ss level 5 or higher. I"ve always been a fan of Vegeta.
and a throw back to one of my fav lines of all time....
"...Are you a god?"
"Ray when someone asked are you a god? YOU SAY YES!"
DB is the best 'modern saga' that I can think of. Maybe outside of some fantasy novels, there's no other story that's really went on so long and is so popular across the world. I don't see how anyone can say it's bad. It's like saying history is bad.
Superman is similar, but Goku would beat the shit outta him obviously, so DB wins.
Last edited by Dumar; 02-15-2013 at 02:44 PM.
If Vegeta could destroy planets why didn't he just destroy the earth? (Didn't him and the bald over 9000 guy blow up a planet while flying in their balls to earth? It's been about 15 years)
I definitely watched the shit out of it when I was younger, but I was never delusional about the show being particularly good. Perhaps somewhat novel, as one of the first anime I've ever seen--never been a fan of most anime anyway.
...You know I guess it is good in a turn your brain off and enjoy the bro-opera type of way.
Last edited by Voyce; 02-15-2013 at 06:53 PM.
I thought the movies all where their own kinda timeline as its very hard to fit some of the events in with the standard show etc- at least thats what I was told in the wayback of movies 1-4ish - I always liked watching just the movies- way less AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH etc
Probably due to the fact that I was well into my 20s when this stuff came out, but it just never appealed to me. I watched that Superman vs. Goku clip that Urgo linked, and every Dragonball clip used in it just made me want to cringe. I can see how it would be different if I were 8 and just seeing it for the first time, that shit would be awesome. But since I was well beyond that point, I already know I'd never be able to sit down and watch any of it. The "lore" of it has always been somewhat interesting to me though, just from the bits and pieces I pick up here on the boards, so I'd actually be pretty interested in a halfway decently done movie that skipped all the kiddie crap and was mostly badasses fighting. I'll have to watch the recommendations here though to see if it ends up being worth the time to watch.
And not to derail this, but I think the Superman vs. Goku debate will pretty much always come down to how old you were when you learned about each of them. For me there's no question it is Superman (either pre- or post-retcon), but I can see someone that grew up on DBZ with a smattering of Justice League perhaps thinking Goku. Just a sign of the times we grew up in for the most part.
it's not the fact you were 20 years old Vvoid. it's the fact while the manga is pretty cool, the anime is absolute horrible. Basically, they took a story that could easely fit into 70 episodes and streched it to over 400. So you have entire episodes that cover 7 pages of the manga where the characters stay still, taunt each other for 15 minutes. powerup for 5 THEN actually fight for like 2 minutes....fights where you rarely see what the fuck is going on. Or you have dozen of nosense filler episodes that go even against the background and the enstablished powerlevels
i was 13 when the first DBZ episode came out in italy and i was a big fan of the manga at the time. I didnt go past the first dozen episodes because even the little nerd kid i was was cringing most of them time
I thought the age old story was, Toriyama intended for Gohan to be the newish star of the series post Cell Saga, hence him going higher than any Saiyan to date and beating Cell, but the feedback from the notion of Goku being dead for the rest of the series caused him to retcon and bring back Goku with Buu Saga.
Like I said earlier, there were fucking riots once fans heard the news, and Toriyama had to scrap Gohan becoming the successor and eventually just made him the "wasted potential" character, while still making him the strongest, but keeping Goku as the "hero." Vegeta even says it, Gohan is a lot stronger than everyone else, he just got lazy after killing Cell.Goten was created in the series to replace Goku as Akira Toriyama wanted to retire Goku from the series, allowing Gohan to take command. However, Toriyama was forced to bring Goku back when the fans disapproved of the decision to replace him. Goten is Gohan's younger brother, and Trunks' best friend.
And the Z sword was all about potential I'm pretty sure. Whether or not Goku was stronger than Gohan, it was all a matter of unlocking every last bit of ki from the user (which was pounded into our heads from the very beginning of the series, Gohan had fucktons of). It's pretty much fact at this point that Gohan is the strongest non-fused character in DBZ.
Of course all this goes to shit with GT, but I've never watched GT, so fuck that.
Watched the Broly second coming movie on Youtube after reading here the other night, that shit was rubbish. I remembered the first one being pretty badass and apparently just blocked out the second one existing. With good reason.
Looking at the Wiki list of movies I only vaguely remember most of them. First Broly and World's Strongest are the only two that are sticking out in my memory for some reason.
Oh look, Dumar's ignorance regarding films isn't limited only to Star Trek. That's nice to know.
World's Strongest is probably my favorite, some damn fine action in that one.
Use to watch this as a kid (the Freiza saga was pretty epic), and always thought it would make a great adult type anime such as Cowboy Bebop, and Berserk if they would convert it.
Bojack is obviously the best since it's the only one with SSJ2 Gohan!
Any of them with Goten and Trunks are just hysterical cause those two are awesome.
i disagree with mystic gohan being stronger than SSJ3 goku
Cant wait to see this movie!
Draegan the betrayer, selling us out since 2016!
Wait is Goku alive or dead? Oh wait, he can come save the day either way. He can also train and do pushups for 95% of the movie and show up at the end to win it for everyone.
EDIT - Forgot to mention about the DBZ: Live movie... I find it funny that Goku and Bulma are now the characters on Shameless. I don't really read or look for many star's interviews, but I wonder if they even mention meeting already on another project, or if they just completely block those memories out of the brains.
Last edited by Kubla Kas; 03-25-2013 at 09:27 PM.
That Goku vs Superman video was actually pretty damn funny. Vegeta's always been my favorite character so hope he gets some playtime in this movie.
saw this movie recently (dont ask.) I'm not a huge fan of the dbz series, but it has its moments. This was surprisingly good, and a really nice change of pace from what dbz typically delivers, while still giving stuff the fans will like. I found it quite funny and entertaining surprisingly, and fairly fast paced. Definitely among the best dragon ball stuff I've seen.
The databook Dragon Ball: Extreme Battle Collection refers to Ultimate Gohan as having fantastic power surpassing even Super Saiyan 3 (it was confirmed in the manga/anime that he was stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks), however, Super Saiyan 3 Goku is shown to be more powerful than Ultimate Gohan in Wrath of the Dragon; Gohan cannot hit Hirudegarn or block any of his attacks, while Super Saiyan 3 Goku almost single-handedly defeats the monster.
Dunno why the discussion. Everyone wanted Gokou to be stronger than anyone, so Akira made him stronger than anyone. It's canon with the story, lol.
It's pretty canon with the story that Vegeta is the last one to power up.
Vegta and Trunks went down the SS1.5 dead end where they went for bigger muscles but really it was just a simple speed/power tradeoff - also Vegeta probally didn't care too deeply about Trunks.
Goku and Gohan went meditating while in SS1 form to keep it sustainable for longer with less effort which actually got them closer to SS2 - so Gohan was prepped for it.
The depth of this conversation is blowing my mind.
Seriously, Vegeta went fucking insane when Trunks was blasted by Cell.
And as for saying Goku being the hero of movie #13, that had nothing to do with strength, but figuring out weakness.
Did he care about losing a loved one or did he only care about his own sayan pride?
Vegata certaintly cares about everyone at the end of the series but he does turn evil again in the next saga so he isn't quite there yet against Cell.
Here is the scene. Vegeta clearly ranks losing Trunks > his own pride, if you take his internal dialogue at its face value.
Most of the internal dialogue and grunting you hear in anime, and specifically DBZ, is not in the Japanese version. Vegeta does go berserk after losing future Trunks.
Does rapid fire ever fucking work in DBZ?
Do they ever fucking think to blow the smoke/dust/ash/convenient covering cloud away in DBZ?
"The enemy has vanshed in a cloud of dust! We did it!!"
"Argh Gokuuuuuuu" BOOM.
Occasionally one of the more serious characters says "no I can sense his power level" if they want to make them look badass even though they ahven't been relevant for years (Piccolo/Tien/Kami).
has anyone seen the movie yet ?
cool video expect for the asshole talking
Mystic Gohan can't land a fucking punch on this dude? Jesus christ.
it nothing different from every new uber enemy since after Cell. The new enemy is so strong he doesn't even avoid being hit. Actually, the first one to do it was Cell itself, but at least, when with each Cell powerup the previous opponent couldnt do shit, it was the first time we see so much drastic power difference
after that, it happends with everyone. DBGT has it every 5 minutes of so
Last edited by fucker; 03-31-2013 at 09:42 PM.
I need to see this movie. I keep seeing pictures of Goku in some golden looking SSJ4 mode but from what I've read he doesn't do that in the movie. Saiyan God form looks more like the kaioken shit. Hmmm.
That was better than pretty much all of the fight choreography in dbz pre-Majin Vegeta.
That was surprisingly well done. Briefly checked his bio, and he seems well off, but I could easily imagine him getting hired and put to good use by Robot Chicken or what not if he cared to.
Looking forward to this. Not a big anime fan anymore, but it'll be refreshing to see something not Michael Bay'd to shit & back in a theater, and it's arguably the coolest running story of all time.
Plus, Goku beats the shit outta both Bats & Supes at the same time.
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