Me ma gets me a new Dewalt tool every xmas.
I thought about posting this in the Home Improvement thread but figured it fit perfectly in Product Reviews so here we go...
We are closing on our house in ~two weeks and other than a bag of hand me down hammers, screwdrivers, etc., I've got nothing. Luckily all we need to do is paint before we move in but I know the projects will soon begin...
So use this thread to recommend your favorite drills, saws, etc. for both newbies like me and experts like Picasso
Me ma gets me a new Dewalt tool every xmas.
I am not brand loyal, each company consistently makes one product better than the next guy, after 25 yrs collecting and replacing tools I follow these rules of thumb.
Worm drive Saw - Skill
7 1/4 Circ. Saw - Porter Cable.
Cordless Drill / Impact Driver - Makita Lith-Ion
Sawz-All - Milwaukee
Jig Saw - Bosch
Framing Nailer - Paslode
Spray Guns - Binks
Hammer Drills - Hilti
Laser Levels - PLS
Palm Sanders, 3/8 corded drill, 4in grinders - Dewalt
Wrenches / Sockets - Craftsman (I do own $5K worth of Snap-On, but I wouldn't suggest most people invest in em unless you wrench all day every day)
They can be hard to find, but the best tape measure you can buy is http://www.amazon.com/Komelon-525C-M.../dp/B001VU7ZAG, pass on any other model by this brand with fancy cases or extra doo-hickeys, the base model rocks and is small and compact for how large a tape it is (2/3 the size of a Stanley). Never buy a 16' tape, always get a 25' or 30' with a 1" wide blade
I can get into pneumatic brands but no one here will care I am sure.
Last edited by Merkins4Brazil; 01-27-2013 at 01:43 AM.
If you're just a normal homeowner, just buy tools as you need them. You'll find yourself needing a drill of some type pretty early on, and everyhing beyond that depends largely on how gung ho you are on doing shit.
The advice I would give is subscribe to popular mechanics for a year. A sub is like 12 bucks, and you can get digital issues on your tablet now. Basically every month they review some type of power/yard tool. They take half a dozen or a dozen different manufacturers and run them through a lot of things your average homeowner would need to do. Pretty surprising results, a lot of times.
i don't do much in the yard but bought a fixer upper a few years back, great deal, owners did a short sale, gov't was giving $8k to 1st time home buyers, etc.
don't buy a power paint roller. w/ cleanup and setup, trays and rollers are faster. i never tried a sprayer but i imagine it'll go where you don't want it w/o a lot of prep
get a good cordless drill and a good drill bit set. always handy for when you need to stick a hole or screw something.
i had to replace all the carpet downstairs in my place and went w/ tile. found a good deal on natural stone. it was a ton of work and tools i probably won't ever use again, hopefully. wet saw and uber 1/2" drill. if i ever get around to building a swing set for the kids, i've got the power to drill through 4x6's no prob.
as others said. look at the jobs and buy tools as you need. we put in new base boards after the tile, so got a good miter saw, convinced the wife i'd someday put in crown molding too so i could get the upgraded saw. someday. bought a compressor and nail gun kit for doing the base boards. got a caulk gun for the compressor too, but haven't used it yet.
i ripped out a fake electric fireplace when we moved in. so few tools for cutting drywall and pulling romex (sp?) to install a power outlet there. i didn't think i'd be able to match the drywall texture so hired someone for the cosmetic part.
if you're starting out, get a shelf for whatever tools you want and a good tool box to hold the other tools you plan on getting.
100 piece plus (craftsman) mechanics toolset and a cordless kit (drill, recip saw, flash light, and sander) and you're well on your way. The cordless circular saws i've used are pretty worthless so i usually just break out of the corded one.
After that its just buying all the random shit when you need it. I have taken the position that i'm going to need it eventually so i dont bother trying to squeeze by half assing something.
As far as brands go i usually just try to buy american (which is really possible with hand tools and some outdoor stuff). Home depot seems to have outdone lowes recently in this department. I've bought cheap cordless sets (firestorm & skil) and they've worked fine but if i had to do it over again i'd probably get 1 quality set.
I bought a honda lawnmower after a lot of research and love it. My craftsman blower and weedeater are OK but i'd eventually like to go Stihl. Husqvarna has been disappointing.
Last edited by Picasso; 01-27-2013 at 04:24 PM.
My Toro weed eater? Complete piece of shit.
I've been told that both Dewalt and Milwaukee used to be good but they have gone "cheap" as in plastic gears and such and you might as well save your money and buy Black and Decker. Makita is really good, but it's expensive also and it's questionable whether it's worth the money for the average homeowner. If you are a contractor or something go makita but if you're just using it for basic repairs around the house you're probably not going to wear out a cheap drill for quite a few years. I personally have an 18 volt black and decker set that I've had for like 6 years and it's still going strong.
Nothing wrong with budget tools if you are a casual user, just stay away from Ryobi and Kobalt. Craftsman power tools are so-so but if you grab em on sale you'll get your moneys worth.
For gas yard tools Stihl rocks but Shindaiwa makes the best weed eaters. Dewalt = Black & Decker, same company. Also most all hand tools are made by one company Cooper Tools sold under many many different brands names.
Last edited by Merkins4Brazil; 01-28-2013 at 04:29 AM.
I got this on Black Friday. Got the drill, 3 attachments and the xtended battery that adds something stupid like 400lbs of torque to the drill for $100.
It has a handful of very useful attachments, like a saw, scraper, sander and my favorite the impact driver.
Perfect tool for say.. redoing your kitchen or bathrooms. It's prefect for pretty much anything.
8 hours hanging drywall, laying sub-floors and cabinets and didn't need recharged.
Best damn power tool I've owned to date.
This is the drill set you want. It may seem like too much to get both of these, but I did it, and I'm so glad I did.
Really good battery life, excellent control, very comfortable in the hand.
If you're just getting started collecting tools, there are a few you have to have, especially if you're planning to do home renovation.
Reciprocating saw - Dewalt makes a good one, so does just about any major tool company. Get one that is reasonably priced that you like the feel/weight of.
Compound Miter Saw - This is something you don't want to skimp on. Precision comes with better saws. I recommend the upper priced Craftsman saws. I managed to score one with a 12" blade, rather than the standard 10", and it is glorious.
Table Saw - Again, I'd recommend Craftsman
Compressor - These make your life so much easier. Trim, flooring, finishing, shelving, anything with wood, so much easier with a compressor. You don't need a big one, unless you're planning to run any rotary tools, but most schmoes like us don't need that. Get a good one, as the cheapies have crap guns. Bosch, Craftsman, or Porter Cable.
Angle Grinder - It's amazing how much you end up using these once you're used to having one. Plus, they're a very inexpensive tool. Craftsman or PorterCable.
That's my $0.02
What's nice is that DW sells the bare tools, so if you already have a handful of them you can save a bunch of money buy not buying another complete set with battery & charger each time. I have maybe ~10 different single DW tools now (sawsall, hammer drill, vaccum, that awesome flexi-light thing, etc) and 5 batteries. Two stay in tools most of the time, and 3 are on chargers. It's worked out great.
For example, here's the sawsall. $109 for the bare tool:
vs. $199 for the kit with the battery/case:
The first few you buy you'll (obviously) want to get the full monte with the chargers and batteries, but after that you save money every time.
Last edited by Seventh; 01-28-2013 at 11:29 PM.
Also, while not a power tool, this welder is a great little unit for $100 and pretty cool to fuck around with. You can't do crazy big jobs with it, but for small basic automotive stuff and around the house, it's pretty solid, especially if you're just looking to up your man-cred and learn to weld.
Dewalt is just Black and Decker with a higher price tag. I'm telling you, either go Makita or go cheap.
I think brand loyalty is a sufficient argument when you need to be concerned with battery packs, but if you're going with anything more than that, I think that concept is outdated. Certain manufacturers make certain things really well, and then they make other things pretty shitty.
I've used lots of Makita and lots of DeWalt, both at home, and on job sites. I'll take DeWalt tools over Makita every single day. I've simply had better luck with them, I like how they feel in the hand better, and their batteries are better.
I've dropped my DeWalt drill dozens of times. It still works poifectly.
That's all I need to know
Also, I buy seasonal equipment during the off season. Buy your lawnmower and weedeater during the winter, and if you are getting a snowblower get it in the summer. Try to buy gardening/lawn shit in the fall/winter, etc. A little planning ahead can save a lot of money, you'll get charged a premium for that stuff during peak season
The same company owns dewalt, skil, and black and decker - with quality and price ranking in that order. Black and Decker is shit.
I've been taking on more and more home improvement projects as I have gotten older, and the dewalt tools are worth every penny.
Dewalt ion set on sd front page
Its better to get the tools when you need them. Its really no use just going out and buying all this crap if you are not going to use it. In fact I would approach all tool purchases like this, buy them when you need them, and then you will be building up your own arsenal of tools that you use and need.
Example, some people dont want to do their own plumbing. Granted its a shitty job, but the basics you should be able to do on your own, unless you like paying plumbers $$$ for stupid shit like a sink is leaking or a trap gets busted and leaks. And this shit usually happens on a Sunday night, plumbers best payday, lol. Well you buy the parts and replace them. Then you find out that you might need a pipe cutter or some larger channel locks that can fit around 2 1/4" pipes. So you go and get the shit and then you have it for next time.
Some shit its just better to rent as well. Like say you do some tile work or something and you need a wet saw. Or you're working on a deck or something and you need a table saw for some rips.
Some people just hire everything out as well and have shit for tools because they dont need them. It really depends on how you take care of shit.
Edit: reading back, Cutlery pretty much covered the above.
Last edited by mkopec; 02-01-2013 at 07:16 PM.
I purchased a Milwalkee drill that is amazing last year. It's just fucking great.
I also like Porter Cable stuff too.
BTW I see people saying Black & Decker is cheap junk, that is mostly true, but they do have an "industrial" line that is actually better quality / power than their Dewalt label. You dont see them for sale at Big Box or hardware stores, you have to go looking for em at specialty places / supply houses.
Last edited by Merkins4Brazil; 02-01-2013 at 10:27 PM.
I talked to the power tool guy at the local Ace hardware. He is sort of a friend of mine so I don't think he is just blowing smoke up my ass to make a sale (they also don't work on commission). What he said is that when Dewalt got bought by black and decker they went cheap and started using plastic gears, cheap parts etc. When this happened, Milwaukee followed suit and only Makita has held the line on quality (aside from some smaller brands like Porter Cable). On top of that, the home improvement podcast I listen to has a guy that always says Dewalt is cheap tools at expensive prices. Maybe they are wrong, maybe they're not but I have to assume that they know more than I do.
From my personal experience, I own tools made by Milwaukee, Dewalt, Makita, Skil, and Black and Decker and I don't have any complaints about any of them. My Black and Decker cordless drill/circular saw/reciprocating saw set that I got for Christmas like 7 years ago and have used very regularly are still working. The battery charger died and the batteries themselves don't seem to have quite the punch that they used to, but that is to be expected after that much time and these aren't the "industrial" versions. I also have a corded Black and Decker drill with a steel case that came from my Grandfather and is at least 50 years old and still works perfectly.
I guess my point is that if you are a professional carpenter you probably already have your preferences and if you're just a DIYer just about any name brand tool is going to get the job done for you and it's probably questionable whether you're going to get your money's worth out of the expensive stuff.
Last edited by BrutulTM; 02-10-2013 at 02:36 AM.
biggest thing imo is spend money where you'll get it back and don't where you won't. If you are a pro you blow coin on the ones you'll use every day, if you are a home owner / DIY there isnt a real need to, you arent gonna shoot 300K screws in a year with your screw gun. Hell Festool makes pretty much the best power tools on the planet, but I have only ever met a couple pros that actually had invested in more than 1 or 2 pieces. I do know one crazy fuck who had a whole truck full of em. Screw that, on big jobs, nice tools tend to grow legs and walk off, I'd be too paranoid to turn my back for a minute or two. I don't wanna feel like I need to go on a killing spree if someone swipes on of my toys.
That said, DIY guys, spend money on good quality extension cords, if you take care of em they last forever and dont get all fucked up so easy.
Last edited by Merkins4Brazil; 02-10-2013 at 03:24 AM.
In my experience, my employees can pretty much destroy any power tool I throw at them, including T-Drills and Threaders/Groovers worth 5 figures. We mostly use Milwaukee though, if only because they're readily available for purchase and repair. Having a good repair shop is if anything more important than what brand we buy, because no matter what, they're going to need repairing frequently.
I'm pretty thrilled about the rockwell soniccrafter I bought so far. I'm.also amazed how quiet it is
My new cordless set, I didn't get a hammerdrill option (most employers supply spline hammerdrills anymore) but what I did get I'm still mostly happy with. Particularly with the cordless impact - it's very nice when I have to put 100 sheet metal screws into steel studs or something similar, as opposed to a standard cordless drill. It is also much lighter, so I can stuff it into my tool belt/harness (which is usually already way too heavy) without feeling like I put a cinderblock in there. My only complaint so far was with the cordless drill chuck. I guess it is an improvement over the old metal dewalt chucks in that the old metal ones were a bitch to get tight and they would tend to come loose, but this new one with plastic....well, it wasn't long before I was drilling in a tight spot and I started melting the outer plastic on the chuck itself from the chuck spinning up against something.
Someone mentioned Milwaukee and Milwaukee sawzalls earlier, and I have to agree. If you have the cash, and need a sawzall, that's a top choice. If you are going to use it once a year, maybe not, but from a contractor viewpoint I prefer those over everything else. It's hard to describe, but they just...cut....better. Maybe it's a speed thing, maybe it's something else, but to me they seem to bind less often and cut quicker. And I own a corded DeWalt sawzall that I but rarely use (usually when a jobsite is missing a sawzall) - I got it on sale, but it's mostly plastic, has few of the refinements an actual Milwaukee sawzall has, the speed control feels worse and for some reason if the blade binds it will shake the bejeesus out of you.
Milwaukee is also probably my top choice for serious drills. This is prob way beyond the homeowner level, but as an electrician we normally preferred the "Hole Hawg" drills while it seemed that a lot of plumbers preferred the right angle drills. The Hole Hawgs were great because you could just put them in high gear and the torque would be low enough that if you hit a nail it wouldn't really kick like it would in low speed, plus the high speed was much faster than on a lot of the right angle drills. So when you have a few hundred 3/4"-1 1/4" holes to drill through studs, you could drill them with a hawg much much faster. I suppose plumbers preferred the right angle type with the higher torque and slower speeds since they normally drill larger holes (often through more shit framing, stacked wood, etc) and normally use forstner type bits or standard hole saws while most electricians use what are called "ship bits" (long borer bits that they used to drill in wooden ship frames forever ago). Now if I had to drill a ton of 2" holes for example then I'd prob go with the standard right angle drill, which is what we did whenever we would install in-house vac systems. The 3rd pic some people like but I detest...that kind of series seems adequate for homeowners or occasional jobsite drilling (maybe for tiny holes), but I've burned several out myself.
4th and 5th pic...bandsaws. Who doesn't fucking love bandsaws? If you have to cut a lot of allthread, unistrut, rebar, conduit/pipe etc then you want a bandsaw not a sawzall. Or to be more precise a Porta-Band. The old standby with/cord version I went looking for a pic of, and found...Adam Savage? (I guess that's a hell of an endorsement lol http://kk.org/cooltools/archives/6812 ). But what blew my mind over the last few years were the CORDLESS bandsaws that started coming out. In a lot of situations in the past you would use a sawzall, but sawzalls cans shake you right off your ladder at times. Bandsaw? Like in the last pic, having to cut down allthread suspended from beam clamps. Imagine having to install ~100 of those for lights on a sloped roof, using a laser to cut them off at the same height with a sawzall. With a sawzall the allthread is going to want to go every which way since a sawzall blade reciprocates. But with a cordless bandsaw...it's a million times easier, quicker and more precise.
I've got a porter cable sawzall and I love it.
Porter Cable tools are good shit, definitely high quality. I have a couple of their routers. a small 1/2 hp stationary one and a bigger 3/4 horse plunge type. But they are expensive too. their nail guns are supposed to be good shit too but I do not own one.
Im no pro or anything, but I have a couple of Rigid tools and they seem to be decent quality. Not sure who makes them for Home Depot but I have their table saw which Ive had for the past 10 yrs or so and its good quality shit. Ive only had to readjust it once to get it true again. Recently I bought their sawzall and cannot be happier with it for the shit I used it for so far.
Last edited by mkopec; 02-14-2013 at 08:21 PM.
Agree with Milwaukee for serious saws and sawzalls. Although the whole hog will rip your fucking arm off if you fuck up with it.
After being underwhelmed with Delwalt power drills for years I switched to ridgid cordless power drills and couldn't be any happier. I know what you're thinking,"Ridgid makes bad ass pipe cutters, pipe wrenches and shit but fuck me if i'm gonna try a ridgid power tool."
Don't knock it till you try it.
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
My brother is an electrician and we got him that exact band saw last year for Christmas at his request.
Yeah, we've had numerous guys throw shoulders out, a couple knock teeth out, and at least one guy outright break his arm. Generally it's from inexperience or doing something stupid, if you're using them properly braced you shouldn't hurt yourself, but it's a bit of an art when you're squeezed up in a joist space between studs trying to drill a 5-3/8" hole with a 20lb drill on top of an 8' ladder. When I worked summers as a teenager generally that was my job: drill holes 8 hours a day. They scared the shit out of me at first, but after awhile you get the hang of it. Banged my fingers, hands and arms up pretty good but never actually injured myself.Originally Posted by Julian
When I did contracting we mostly used Milwaukee and Hitachi. Both made good tools. You can beat the shit out of a Milwaukee sawzall. This was about 10 years ago now though and things may have changed.
I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sexual aid that uses an air compressor to make your dick hard.
Not sure if my brother has been happy with his band saw but he demonstrated it to me and I was pretty impressed.
Hitachi makes the best roofing coil nail guns. Bostich aint got shit on hitachi.
my guys put on thousands of roofs with this bad boy
Last edited by Julian the Apostate; 02-15-2013 at 10:33 PM.
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
I don't know why but I've always preferred drop in or expanding anchors, even if Hilti is many times faster.
yeah wedge anchors are awesome, but spendy in SS, and some idiots can't set em right and they spin-out. My fav is to drill and epoxy threaded rod if you are going whole hog 25+ years builds, that will never spin out. powder I use for banging down track the newer Hilti auto-feed ones excel at that. best ever was a couple idiots I watched ramset cabinets to a wall to find out they hung em 3 inches too low. oops!
As said previously, when buying tools, buy them as you need them. I've always felt there is a right tool for the job, unfortunately I work for a small roofing company, so most of the time our motto is "Make it work".
Hammers - Estwing. I've used a handful of hammers in the past 5 years, and my Estwing framer has lasted the longest. The shaft on mine rings when I hit something with it, though, gets a tad annoying sometimes.
Grinders - I definitely don't recommend Ridgid. We cut a lot of stucco, and the powder gets in the vents and just eats them up. Ours are getting sent in for repairs every week or so, that's why my company owns 4 for just two crews.
Mixing Drills - Here I definitely recommend Ridgid. We own 3 of them, never had any problems with them. Mixing buckets of cement, stucco, mortar, waterproofing product, whatever. Almost never even get warm.
also +1 for Porter Cable, we have a mixture of battery tools and air tools from them, and have zero problems with everything, except maybe the battery circular saw. The guide plate is misaligned now after a fall off the roof.
And Paslode are the shit, but damn if they aren't expensive. Contractor on a job let me borrow one to lay out some decking, made me lazy the rest of the day.
I have to say, two solid weekends putting up crown molding in 4 rooms with the Craftsman 12" single bevel miter that I got for $250 is amazing.
This shit is amazing. So glad I opted for the sliding version for cleaner cuts.
Anybody anal about "no tools from China"?
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I buy first world when i can but it's difficult
It's basically impossible to avoid manufactured goods from China these days, whether tools, building materials, equipment or what have you.
You can get power tools not made in China if you want to spend money. Most of the job sites we work have it in their contract that if you don't buy made in the USA tools you have to submit where you looked etc...to get a waiver. But sometimes the prices you pay you could buy 50 of another name brand tool for the same price.
That's another thing I like about the petro chemical industry. No none USA tools "just cause" you have to show why you don't have one. No non domestically rolled stell without a waiver and proof you tried to source it first in the US (and our 2nd largest importer was normally Belgium for some alloys).
You don't see it much anymore in most places.
Now in the shop is a different story. I used to buy Harbor Freight grinders by the pallet load for the shop. They will last just as long as a name brand grinder that cost 4x or more. Just long enough till someone drops it off a cherry picker, runs over it with something else, drops a couple ton something on it, cuts the cord by accident etc...lol. Crude but effective.
I'll just drop this here:
I bought a cheap little black and decker trimmer/weed eater 4-5 years ago and the battery is starting to die. Rather than go out and buy a new battery (which probably costs as much as a new trimmer) I'm thinking I need to get a new trimmer anyways as this one wasn't really even getting the job done even when new. It just does not have the power to cut through my thick, viney st aug grass. So the question is should I just go with gas or are the new lithium battery powered tools also more powerful?
Last edited by mures; 07-05-2016 at 08:36 PM.
Lithium is like infinity better than nicad so if you're still a pussy bitch you might try a new electric rig, def do not get a new nicad battery
Yeah, fuck NiCad. A lithium one will be *much* better both with regard to power and to charge time/run time. Do you have any other cordless power tools? Makita at least makes some nice trimmers that work with their lithium batteries that go with their cordless drills and shit. I have the 18V single battery model and it works fine but I hear that the 2-battery 36 volt model is really badass. I think DeWalt has a trimmer too if you're in that camp instead. IMO you're not giving up that much vs. gas powered these days and they are so much quieter and their carburetors don't get gummed up and shit. If you have a small yard even the corded electrics aren't that bad once you get used to dragging a cord around. Gas is nice when it works but nothing is more frustrating than when that little engine won't start for whatever reason.
What Picasso said. NiCad's are mostly being phased out and they're inferior anyways.
You should go with the gas for power, however. No battery-powered tool can compare to the strength of fuel.
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Cool, I think I may just stay an electric pussy bitch then. My yard isn't very big, which is why I got a cheap/small one to begin with. Even if its only just slightly more powerful that'll do.
My neighbor got a 40v and said it does the job but he'd def reconsider the 80v if he had to do it over again because sometimes he has to wait for a recharge of about an hour.
I have a li-ion (20v or 40v, can't remember) black and decker trimmer and it's ok. If you put it on the high power setting it lasts for 45 minutes to an hour of pretty constant use. It's not the greatest thing ever, but it cuts through everything well enough.
Had it 2 years and bought 3 extra spools of line for when it runs out and I still havent run out on the original line. In fact I opened it up and it barely looks like I used any.
I'm looking to buy a less than $200 reliable lawnmower, with bag or bag option
Fuck you spend 350 and get a honda
Price point is raising to 350 or so. @lurkingdirk no Honda?
Honda small engines are totally bulletproof. I have 5 or 6 of them and they all start every time even though I'm not too careful on maintenance. That said, I have 3 or 4 Briggs and Strattons as well and they are also very reliable.
If you're just going to put up a few pictures it doesn't matter, just get some POS from Harbor Freight for $20. If you think you might actually use it regularly in the future it seems like most construction guys are saying that Makita is the best right now but they are also the most expensive of the big brands.
When I did the attic I was going to buy a Makita too but ended up with a Kress. Fucking thing almost broke my wrist a few weeks ago when I put up the playtower for our kids.
I would go ahead and get a 5 piece lithium ion kit, you'll eventually need it to rebuild your country after the immigrants roll through anyway. I have a ryobi and had no issues and they are the cheapest out there with an actual brand name.
Harbor freight had some items not worth the materials they are made of. However with a critical eye and some sense some products are great for your average gone owner. I got one of the corded (wouldn't trust their batteries) handheld circular saws and been cutting wood, pvc, joists, etc with no issues. Pretty good for like 45 for saw plus a blade.
What's a good circular saw in the $150 range? Preferably one with an adjustable base to line up the blade.
I think your choice is between worm drive (hypoid) or sidewinder. The worm drive is tougher, sidewinder is lighter.
This one seems like it's right on your price range at least, and as we said earlier, Makita is pretty bulletproof.
Makita 5377MG Magnesium 7-1/4-Inch Hypoid Saw - Power Circular Saws - Amazon.com
Define adjustable base to line up the blade
Battery completely died on the old trimmer so I went out and bought a kobalt 40v lithium one today. My old trimmer was only 16v so the difference in power is huge. Confident this thing would fit anyone's needs so long as you aren't on a farm or using it for commercial application.
I tried an electric, it was OK but really lacked power. The gas one nows are fantastic. Lot of places but a metal blade on it and do pre commercial thinning of trees now when they are 3-4" in diameter or less.
One day I hope to be as attractive and well spoken as Tuco!
Yeah I think they all have it. I've had a worx saw for a while and used it to saw concrete a lot even and it's held together pretty well. Id guess for the average guy any major brand will be fine. There are track saws I thought you may have been talking about. If you're going to be cutting trim and A lot of angles a miter saw is the way to go...but it can be rough if you have limited room.
Last edited by Picasso; 07-18-2016 at 06:27 PM.
Yeah, I was checking out miter saws, as this is mostly for trim and flooring cuts, but I'm in a townhouse with limited storage(no garage) and an already growing-out-of-control collection of tools and car stuff.
They have small ones with like 7.25 inch blades that may be feasible and they're not very expensive. You may have to rip some of the flooring so you probably can't just get away with a miter but personally I'd ruin enough trim with the circ saw to pay for a miter pretty quick.
I posted in the Home Improvement thread about attempting to build a pantry / cabinet, trying to figure out the best way to approach the materials. We don't have a table saw or anything larger enough to cut up large sheets of wood, so I was thinking about getting Home Depot to make those large cuts for me, but then picking up something for the house to do the smaller stuff like the shelves or little things.
Would the saw Brutul posted a bit up work or would I be better off finding something like a table or bench saw. I really don't even know the difference in all this shit, I just want a project.
Cabinet making is no joke and unless you're doing rustic deal or want to get into it as a hobby i'd just work on drawing up exactly what you want and handing it off to a local shop.
Don't misunderstand my goal though. I'm basically just looking to put together a bunch of plain rectangles in some form resembling a box with some shelves. Screw up a bunch along the way, make too many trips to the store, and spend money on tools I'll use once and then just keep buying from Ikea. But I enjoy that whole process and giving it a try. And since I'm not working I have nothing but time to kill and fingers to lose.
I would really like to get in to it though. It's the only activity that had ever appealed to me and I'm constantly running in to things around the house that we need for little spots that it's be amazing to just do it. I'd like to get back to being creative.
Last edited by Intrinsic; 07-19-2016 at 02:41 AM.
You can certainly give it a go with a circ saw and it's good to have regardless but in fine carpentry miter and table saw are must haves, although a skilled circ saw user may be just as good as a $150 table saw.
Clamp a straight edge to the plywood and use the circular saw against it. Don't just follow the pencil line, you'll get a much better cut.
So I think I've settled on a miter and circular saw. What are the advantages of a sliding miter over a compound? There's a well reviewed Hitachi 10" but it doesn't slide.
Length and depth of cut. Unless you have something specific in mind that you're going to cut a lot of (like 4x4) you'll be fine with a 10 inch. A sliding 7.25 (or nonsliding) may be good too (cheap blades). They are heavy and you'll likely be moving yours a lot to setup so you'll appreciate mobility. I have a $400 12 inch slider and a $200 10 inch slider and I've used the 10 inch way more because it's fucking brutal moving that 12 incher, if I ever end up short on a cut I just turn the board over and go from the other side.
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