I'm interested in hearing early reviews of this show. Like you said, it's either gonna be awesome or really bad.
Starts January 30 on FX. Has the potential to be good or just turrible.
I'm interested in hearing early reviews of this show. Like you said, it's either gonna be awesome or really bad.
So is this based on the Cold War?
Whether it turns out good or bad I'm going to give it a shot at least. I'm happy to see something a little different on TV for a change and I'll support it unless it's absolutely abysmal.
I think the timeline is the early 80s
Reviews:The Americans is a period drama about the complex marriage of two KGB spies posing as Americans in suburban Washington D.C. shortly after Ronald Reagan is elected President. The arranged marriage of Philip (Matthew Rhys) and Elizabeth Jennings (Keri Russell), who have two children – 13-year-old Paige (Holly Taylor) and 10-year-old Henry (Keidrich Sellati), who know nothing about their parents’ true identity – grows more passionate and genuine by the day, but is constantly tested by the escalation of the Cold War and the intimate, dangerous and darkly funny relationships they must maintain with a network of spies and informants under their control. Complicating their relationship further is Philip’s growing sense of affinity for America’s values and way of life. Tensions also heighten upon the arrival of a new neighbor, Stan Beeman (Noah Emmerich), an FBI agent. Stan and his partner, Agent Chris Amador (Maximiliano Hernández), are members of a new division of Counterintelligence tasked with fighting against foreign agents on U.S. soil, including KGB Directorate S illegals, Russian spies posing as Americans.
Our FX Rep at work gave us a 10 minute preview of the pilot, looked pretty good. FX series have always been top notch TV imo. Will DVR this one for sure and check it out later tonight.
So it's basically Mr & Mrs Smith meets American Dad?
Still, it could be interesting.
" I wonder if you are destined to be forgotten. Will your life fade in the shadow of greater beings?"
That Phil Collins/acid bit was just beyond epic. I could see this being added to my SOA & Walking Dead must see weekly shit.
Great start, I hope it keeps going at this pace.
First episode seemed very good, though I'll eat up pretty much any spy stuff so I'm not a good, objective judge of this.
I'm not too sold on the whole "oh, the guy who moves in next store just happens to be in the FBI and just happens to be in counterintelligence, oh, and did we mention he just happens to have been undercover?" It feels contrived. I understand the need for there to be conflict and the risk of them being exposed, but I think they could've come up with a way that didn't feel so lazy.
That said, I do enjoy the premise, particularly in the characterizations of the two that are the spies. I'm hoping there is more focus on them dealing with being Americans and their children growing up in a regime they're trying to take down, and less on their neighbor snooping around and constantly almost catching them.
Any online streams available yet? My usual source is dry
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This could be good. The FX originals I've watched and taken stake in have been rewarding. Cold War shit is always entertaining too. So, I'm hoping this'll work out
I dig it so far. Writing such an on point neighbor into the mix is definitely hamfisted though.
Merged the two threads. I was on the fence over whether or not to try this, since it seems mostly a positive reaction I will have to give it a shot.
I really enjoyed the first episode. Alan Sepinwall, whose opinions I generally trust, has seen two episodes and he thought the second episode keeps the pace of the first: http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-wat...r-back-to-life
The pace of Keri Russell getting fucked three times per episode I hope.
Liked what i saw but couldnt catch the end. I want to know what happened... do they show them again?
I thought it was well made, but I'm not sure how much audience (or even myself) will stick around once they start directly killing Americans. The pilot attempts to split the difference by only having Soviets be killed, and all the secrets learned be of Soviet ops, but they can't keep that up indefinitely.
As to the "Our new neighbor is our worst enemy!", yeah, it's ridiculous, but his deep cover background could get interesting. His "It was a bit more than that" makes me wonder if he's beaten (or even killed) minorities, if he even had an issue with that, and how the Soviet characters respond (the Soviets made a lot of hay, especially in the 60s, of the (nominal, anyway) racial equality under Socialism.)
a few things that bugged me... flashback 20 years, and chick is the same age. She has a Russian accent in Russia which is magically gone in the US (My wife is Russian she could not stand the whole accent thing either). The show seems to be lacking in a good amount of a story, so far it seems like they are bounty hunters who hunt down defectors, while holding down a family that will most likely be used against them later. Show seems very predictable and unrealistic to me.
She has a family and is willing to let her kids die for the motherland because America is evil.. wtf she has been here long enough to have 2 teenagers and is still all for the motherland. At least the guy makes sense when he is trying to defect and his reasons, Felicity is just as bad as she was in Felicity... this show will be cancelled after 1 season.
Accent magically gone? WTF. They are fucking spies in America of course they have lost their accents otherwise they are pretty shitty spies.
It's fucking crazy how fast you can pick up an accent, though. As a kid I spent a month in Iowa (I'm from Vegas) and when I got home my friends did a WTF the moment I started talking.
Ya, Russian spies losing their Russian accent is 100% believable when you consider that's what most of the Russian spies actually did that were embedded deep in America.
my accent goes reverse, I speak normal english most of every day, if I travel my 'ho bruddah' pidgin english hawai'ian gutter mouth dials up to 11, no fucking clue why. I'd be shot as spy first time I opened my mouth.
Episode 2 is off to a strong start, not wasting any time getting to sex scenes.
Just watched first ep over the weekend. Keri Russel went from a pretty girl in Felicity to OMG priapism every time she's on screen. Digging the early 80s part of it too.
Really enjoying this show so far. Anyone else still watching?
I haven't watched this yet but was thinking about investing in it. It gives a really Homeland vibe although surely won't be as critically acclaimed. Just wondering if that's what to expect from this series as I fucking HATED Homeland. Not sure what about it was exactly but I'm assuming this is more of the same dialogue heavy, cat and mouse, political drama?
Edit: Not that I'm against that style of show. I loved Rubicon which I'd say is a similar style even though that show was horrendously slow and never really went anywhere.
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It doesn't really feel like Homeland to me. I don't know how to describe it. I'm really still on the fence about the show. The cat and the mouse in this show are implausibly closely involved, and that still hasn't really become comfortable for me yet.
The wife is becoming my least favorite character. I do not sympathize. She sucks.
I really like this show. From what I read, "Granny" filmed pilot to another show, so there is a chance she will not return to The Americans. I really hope that she does, especially after last night. The car chase scene was pretty bad ass as well. I wouldn't complain about another couple of those in the show. Anyways, really enjoyed this show. it felt different from a lot of the other things that I watch.
I enjoy this show as well. The finale was pretty good, and granny getting her hands dirty was a nice touch.
Yea this was surprisingly good. I like that most of the events are subtle and small scale, so that next season doesn't really have to try and 1up the first. I suspect Granny will return, at least for a couple episodes. Unless they skip time, which would be really disappointing, they'll need to legitimize the Elizabeth caring for Great Aunt story while Elizabeth recovers from the wound.
I wanted to watch this show when it first came on but I didn't have the time. I finally got around to sitting down and watching it and I ended up doing a marathon of it over 2 days. Awesome show over all and apparently really underrated because no one I know has seen or even heard of it. If you haven't watched this yet, or if you're looking for something to fill the summer TV gap, give this a try.
p.s the actress playing Nina is quite possibly the hottest woman on the face of the earth.
She needs to gain about 5 pounds but she is still super hot.
Season 2 starts tonight!
Super stoked. Best part of this show is as soon as the season ends, Game of Thrones starts up.
Just caught up on this one. All I can say is that this is a great show that more people should watch. Nina might be the hottest chick on the planet.
So did that dude eat out his wife a mere hours after she was three way fucking some dude?
I have a rule about how long between dicks it must be before going down
*Edit* I also think this show has one of the coolest title sequences ever. I love the juxtaposition of Soviet and American rough equivalents.
Started watching this about two weeks back and now I'm caught up. Great show!
Poor Martha. Chick is probably the loneliest person in the world.
What a fantastic episode. The interaction between Phillip and the Mossad agent was incredibly well done.
This was probably the best episode so far of the series. I really felt bad for the scientist as he was being driven to the port, and I felt equally as bad for Phillip cause he clearly didn't want to do it.
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Been catching up this weekend. Keri Russel still makes my brain asphyxiate. Goddamn.
Holy shit, no comments since 4/20?? I just watched the finale and it was awesome. The show is firing on all cylinders.
Yep, that was great. I was hoping Beeman would go Rambo and save Nina, but no, this isn't that show.
Yeah, next season should be interesting with the second generation plot.
Crazy end to the season, that I didn't see coming.
Their marriage had finally gotten some stability, the two were agreeing more than ever, but this divide may shake them. Philip is the good guy and Elizabeth can't make up her damn mind.
So typical husband and wife?
I guess. Philip is the rock and stays consistent. Guess the woman has to be the crazy one, right?
does this mean no more nina in s3?
I binged on this over the weekend and caught up. Still pretty good stuff. I can totally see the youth pastor getting a little touchy with Paige and ending up dead, proving the evilness of western society and prompting her to enter the service like her parents.
Half Indian(Father), Half Russian(Mother) according to imdb.
BTW we're already on eps4, Nina's role this season is super marginalized. So far hasn't been boring.
It's been good so far. I'm just glad that Nina's still in it, since they could have easily written her out of the show entirely.
Best show currently on TV.
Shit, I just started watching this show this season. My god, the ethical dilemmas.
It's almost as if they don't buy the narrative that TV viewers are raging morons who can't grasp subtlety.
People seems to love this but I've been putting it off. Wonder why it gets so little attention here.
Each season has its quota of filler that is usually centered around repetitive family drama which is unfortunate. The rest of the time the show is pretty entertaining and has some fairly exciting climactic moments like the end of last season. The tug of war over Paige this season has been exceedingly tiresome but everything apart from that has been excellent so far. It's a pity but I have absolutely no interest in their bland nonentity son or their naive activist daughter; they are just tools used to further manipulate the emotional states of the real characters and it comes off rather contrived and repetitive and I think that the story would flow better without them. But then they would have to find another way to pad out the writing I suppose.
Anyway overall it's a good show.
too much paige, not enough nina, wtf!
simply, they fail at writing a basic american family.
why can't paige just be a regular teenage girl, instead of finding the freaking cult and activists?
spy stuff is still cool, but i'm getting bored of the whole dumb FBI thing.
I mainly watch it for Phil's wigs.
marathoned through all 3 seasons the last few weeks, good show. I think it edges right up to the line of "great" show but falls slightly short, with a few stellar episodes but a lot of plots that kind of drag out and way too many times Elizabeth and Phil escaping impossible situations.
Glad the old lady in the last episode said point blank to Elizabeth that evil people justify their actions by exactly the way she does, hope it sticks with her but probably not until she loses a child. Thats where I imagine this season or next ends, with paige or henry dying due to the parents actions and then either the couple turning against the russians or one of them turning and the other staying loyal.
whats interesting is that its hard to root for anyone in the show. Elizabeth and Phil are just evil motherfuckers, hands down. Stan the UnMan is a complete idiot and you wonder how he stayed alive for 3 years in a white power group. Its cool cuz it would be dumb to have a Jack Bauer type in the show, but it is a bit unsettling to not really have anyone to cheer for. I really, really, really hope they don't get abruptly ended because I really want to see what happens when the soviet union falls and how the realization that the people they have been working for are no different from the Americans hits the "patriots".
Granny was awesome in s1 (she was Marge in Justified) but glad to see the old guy in s3 sorta replace her, he's great.
by the way last weeks archer episodes was inspired by a story from phil (and phil was in the episode as the welshman)
How Matthew Rhys Ended Up As A Guest Star On This Week
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I pretty much only find Phil likeable. I always get the feeling if he could he would just abscond but because Liz is so desperate to prove herself (mainly to herself) he can't leave his kids behind.
Last week I felt sorry for his fatwife but she's pretty much a cert for a Liz bullet to the head this season.
Liz is a true patriot, she won't let shit like family get in the way of her motherland.
While Phil, i think is just doing this b/c he's just used to it, no different than waking up and making morning coffee.
But he's a happy motherfucker now, he broke through 15years of crazy and somehow it shows that liz kinda sorta loves him.
He's running a good business, seemingly is liked by neighbors and friends, and loves his two kids. He has fashioned the American dream, is living it/realizing it and wants to hold on to it. He seemingly only does the spy shit, b/c if he doesn't they will flip their shit and every he cares for will perish in some form or another.
I believe Liz would sell Paiges' soul if she uttered "for mother russia"
I think she'd probably put a bullet in all the kids and Phil if it came down to it.
Didn't they show in a flashback that her father was a deserter and disgraced their family? She massively over compensates for it.
I marathoned all 35 episodes of this show over the last few weeks and while I enjoyed it mostly all the way through, this last season has been phenomenal. Couldn't disagree more with the people calling the stuff with Paige "tiresome". I can only assume that you thought you were watching 24 or a James Bond movie or something. Paige is the lynchpin of the whole show and the ultimate test of the ethical dilemma that makes the show compelling.
The scene with the old lady in the most recent episode was awesome. Just fucking great writing. I really like Gabriel as well. He's really likable but also an evil motherfucker. The old lady was good but he is better.
As far as Elizabeth and Phil goes, to me Elizabeth is loyal to Russia, Phil is loyal to Elizabeth. Liz will do anything for the cause, Phil will do anything for Elizabeth. The problem arises when he cares for Paige just as much as he does for Elizabeth and he is being forced to choose between them which he severely resents the KGB for.
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Also taking bets on how long it would take anyone to notice if Henry suddenly disappeared from the show.
Old lady scene opens up lots of awesomeness since you're supposed to make parallels between Elizabeth and Betty(old lady, also old timey short for Elizabeth).
I think atm Phil is more loyal to his kids than liz, he'd knife that crazy Rusky to save Paige and whatever the fuck the sons name is, from "the center"
yeah i like the kids unlike 99% of other drama tv shows with kids (once upon a time, walking dead, 24, sopranos, etc) the kids don't do incredibly stupid things to move the plot along. henry is more or less invisible, which a 12 year old boy should be. paige only has one flaw, her new found religion, which is completely understandable given her parents are godless commies (kids opposite of parents and all that).
she doesn't secretly discover her mom is a ruski, she doesn't go undercover with the CIA, she doesn't follow her parents around at night, or any other stupid bullshit. in fact the other illegal families boy becoming a james bond level of assassin and showing zero remorse or guilt was lame, but I guess they really wanted to move that plot forward.
I forgot to add that even though Nina has done nothing this season but mope around her jail cell in sweat pants she is still crazy fucking hot.
For those of you who have been putting this off.
Get caught up
I just watched the most recent episode. Wow, I wasn't expecting such a big plot moment so quickly. I figured they'd drag it out the rest of the season, or even into next season. The final scene with Agent Beeman sitting down for dinner was fantastic.
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