Peanut butter and jelly all day.
I figured I would ask some of you dudes about this health issue I have on my hands. Long story short, my mother is very sick, and is thin as fuck. I take care of her but its getting hard to get weight on her. She is on a feeding tube but I want to start making small prepared meals for her to try and get her weight up.
Any suggestions on some small prepared meals I can make for her? I know eggs/grains/pasta etc but was wondering about some of the more obscure/cost effective items that can supplement her weight gain.
Thanks to anyone who responds, I appreciate it.
Peanut butter and jelly all day.
Shit food is usually high calorie food but I have to assume that your mother has conditions that complicate diet preparation.
I would start with what she likes to eat and what she can eat and then find ways to chuck calories into the diet. One idea to make good caloric gains is with juice.
I'd also check with her doctor to see what she should and shouldn't eat.
Aww man, I was hoping this was a thread where we could revel in our gluttony and post the shit we know we shouldn't eat at restaurants. Like this.
The Bloomin’ Burger
This hefty burger is a patty piled high with Outback Steakhouse’s infamous Bloomin’ Onion petals, American cheese, Bloomin’ sauce, and it comes with "Aussie" fries. Just 1,574 cal and almost 100g of fat.
Lots of Peanut Butter, eggs, and if she can stomach protein the easiest way to put on weight is through Protein Mass Gainer. 600 calories plus 55 grams of protein in liquid form is a lot easier to take in high calories than healthy food options and much better than downing McDonalds and Wendys. It shouldn't replace a meal but if she can drink one down to supplement her meals it should make a big difference.
Making high calorie yet healthy small meals is extremely harm to do. Like Tuco said, find what she likes and can eat and then jazz it up with calories. For example, if she likes sweet potatoes, make drunken sweet potatoes instead so the butter can up the calories. Or green bean casserole instead of just having green beans. The problem though is these type of meals are more involved and probably harder on the stomach.
I used to get a Triple Cheeseburger from Wendy's with a large Coke, large Fries, and an order of Chicken Strips everyday. Got the 'betes after that. Never again.
A very sick person is probably better off getting that sort of advice from a more dependable source than strangers on the internet. If you can afford it, make an appointment with and follow the advice and directions of a certified dietitian or more highly qualified expert. Having said all that, ask the professional whether frequent small amounts of ensure would be helpful, without being hurtful.
Hungry Man XL dinners in a blender.
Barring an dietary requirements of whatever condition she has: if you just want to pack in calories make her pancakes with protein powder in them. Pancakes are already pretty high in calories to start, but mix in a scoop of protein, add butter/jam/syrup/fruit/whatever and you can easily eat 1000 calories in just a couple pancakes. I used to feed my grandma two pancakes with two scoops of protein + butter + bananas + maple every morning while she was doing chemo and it helped her a ton (once the pot brownies got her apetite up anyway).
Yeah, no useful information can be gleaned from the thread without knowing what she's sick with and why.
Cancer is very different from something like Alzheimers, which is very different from just having GI issues and having trouble digesting things. And all of that is pretty well scrapped when you toss in the "she has a feeding tube" thing.
You gotta talk to the doctors, not us.
I didn't know that peanut butter and jelly is so controversial that you needed to get a doctors permission to eat it. And eggs? Eggs are high calorie foods?
And your mother should not be drinking fucking protein shakes made by some goofy supplement company. It's in no way better than fast food to be honest because McDonalds really isnt even that bad and the FDA has made sure that whats McDonalds says is in their food is actually in their food. No one knows whats in a protein shake, it's basically scouts honor. Eat real food.
PB&J, ice cream, and so on.
Well, sorry for not getting into the details but I didnt want to sound like I was feeling bad for myself, or trying to come off as a tool who rattled off all of her ailments in my OP.
But just in order to help, she has chronic liver failure (cirrhosis) diabetes, kidney failure (she is on dialysis) nueropathy, schizophrenia and horrible nutrition. She is not a certified schizo she just talks in her sleep so she has to take Risperidone to help it.
She is supposed to be on a feeding tube 24 hrs a day (its inserted nasally, and goes all the way down into her colon past her stomach. She cant have it placed directly as her stomach is always filled with 6+ liters of fluid due to the liver failure) but its hard to maintain that 45 ml an hour because she has problems with shitting herself. Trust me I have been living a smal nightmare for the past 2 and a half years trying to take care of her as no one else helpes out. My little bro and sis are 21 or so and are living their lives and cant be bothered. Im 28 and the oldest so naturally Im taking the responsibility.
And I talked to her doctors and they all say the same stupid shit. "She needs to eat right, blah blah blah". But Im kind of looking for small tricks to bombard her with calories. I like the protien pancakes. Its cheap, and it works. Her problem is she loves stupid fucking food, like vegatable soup, and chicken broth and fruit and dumb, non weight gaining shit. She is really bad right now, like so bad she cant even get to her toilet. Anyway, she cant really eat sodium or salt or sugary shit. But other than that Im all ears.
Stupid. Fucking. Food.
Like vegetable soup, chicken broth and fruit.
I think we're done here, folks.
But at least you've given some constraints with salt/sugary. How can she eat a lot of fruit if she can't have a lot of sugars?
If she likes fruit have her drink juice (Assuming you're full of shit with the no sugary stuff). You can also find unsalted peanut butter and if she likes it it's easy to add a ton of calories with PB&J.
If she likes milk (and can process it, it's hard on the kidneys iirc) that's great too.
If she likes chicken broth then you can make some high calorie chicken soup by using fattier chicken, more noodles and put more grease into the broth.
It's all about what she likes and what she can eat. If you want better answers you need better information than 'vegetable, broth, fruit shit' and 'her doctor says to eat right'.
I'm not trying to act like Im some expert. I searched on google and a lot of the shit was retarded as fuck shit about feeding underweight cats and babies. just figured some of you had a couple ideas for fast calories thats all. My bud told me to just feed her grains and egg whites in the morning and then chicken breast and rice with a ton of olive oil.
Maybe you could get some weight gain formula from a body building store?
Your mom has liver failure with a side of kidney problems and you want to give her high protein foods? I don't think sugar and salt are your biggest problems. If she's already being tube fed then this is no longer in your hands.
A single bag of Ramen noodles is like 400 calories. I personally could down like three of those with ease, and I am not fat at all. Just drain the water and eat only the noodles with half as much seasoning. Those things are calorie bombs. If you want protein in it, drop an egg or two in the water while it cooks.
When I was going through chemo I basically lived off of Ensure supplement drinks, peanut butter and banana sandwiches on whole wheat toast, and chicken broth. Once I started to be able to hold down even more solid foods, I ate Clif bars like they were going out of style.
My dad had cancer and after his second operation he had about 2/3 of his tongue removed. This made it hard for him to eat and hard for him to put on any weight. Eventually what we found worked well for him was basically body builder shakes. The doctor said to give it a try and we went to one of the body builder stores that had the body building bulk up shake powder. We found some flavors he liked and that stuff kept him alive for a good 10 extra years before he finally passed away.
put her on a gluten-free diet with lots of vegetables, high quality fats (eggs, coconut oil, grass-fed beef, olive oil) and nutrient-dense starches like sweet potatoes. the last thing you want to do is overload the liver with fructose and carb-laden foods.
And im sorry to hear that kaid. Nursing a sick parent is a lot harder than people think. Its so annoying having people question the amount of work I do heh.
Ill agree with some of the above posters. Weight gain formulas/high proteins are best. When you're light and cant eat much, you want to make sure you get all the required nutrition first, this can be accomplished between the aforementioned and vitamins. On top of that, start introducing luxury food as you can. If you go without eating for a long time, baby food is highly recommended as something to start introducing on top of a sustenance diet. It's typically very good, very healthy and very easy on the eater.
Other than that, nuts and peanut butter is her best bet but kind of hard to do that if she's on a feedine tube. See if she can tolerate adding peanut butter to soup or some olive/cocount/madamia oil.
edit: She's on dialysis. It's controversial but no one should be recommending extra protein in her case.
You may want to ask her doctors if they think this is a possibility. But to be very blunt, with cirrhosis and end stage renal disease, and on top of that diabetes, The best bet is to make her happy and as comfortable as possible, and her diet should reflect basically whatever it is she enjoys that she can tolerate. She has so many complicating factors with her medical conditions and likely pharmaceutical related issues as well, that any recommendations are perilous at best, and at her stage in life it's unlikely that anything will reverse or significantly improve her situation.
Dump a cup of heavy cream in her soup.
But yeah, she has hope dude. She is on a liver+kidney transplant list. I bring her to Beth Israel in Boston and its one of the best hospitals out there. Her infections and weight loss caused her to be deactivated on the list, so Im trying to get her to gain weight now that the infections are gone so she can get back active on the list.
This shit is extremely stressful, and I really do thank each and every one of you who responded and tried to help.
edit: Btw guys she just turned 50 She is still relatively young and is an excellent transplant candidate. (besides the health problems)
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Sorry for not being more clear. You cannot give your mother any of the shit listed above like body builder drinks, high carb foods, and protein powder because the build up of urea in her blood would cause brain damage and kill her.
She is on a highly restricted diet, was tube fed, etc for a reason. I don't know where you would find medical grade fat emulsions. That's why I said it was out of your hands.
Rune's right. Without healthy kidney's and a good working liver to help filter out toxins, any excess food you give her is going to cause her serious problems.
ensure is good basically a protein shake, pretty sure this gets covered under insurance too.
If you try to DIY this shit using information you are getting from the internet, you may kill your mom. Don't be a moron.
Has her doctors considered a short course of parenteral nutrition?
Based on what you're describing here with your mother's condition, your best bet is to stay away from the carbs all together and attempt to get her more fats. Fats are 9 calories per gram, where as protein and carbs are 4 calories per gram. Unfortunately they fill you up quite a bit more (if she has appetite issues). Cream based soups, meat with fat, deep fried anything will raise the calories.
instead of following crazy diet fads why not just follow a balanced diet from the get go? I think the main problem is that the government subsidizes corn and wheat completely out of proportion to what is needed in our everyday diets.
If there wasn't a sodium stipulation, I'd say make her pound down a few Hardee's Monster burger combos, like 3000 calories in one meal.
If you want a high calorie meal, combine hardee's with alcohol.
9 calories in 1 gram of fat
7 calories in 1 gram of alcohol
Plumpy'nut not sure if you can buy it in the US though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plumpy%27nut
Are you giving her ensure They are expensive but pack a lot of calories and vitamins into a single serving can. Nutella is also really high caloric and available in supermarkets. A little on bread gos a long way.
I would check with a nutritionist for any other ideas. You may want to go to a nursing home and talk to the nutritionist there and the cooks. One nursing home Im familiar with used to bake a chocolate chip cookie with an incredible amount of calories in it.
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Last edited by Etwynn; 01-16-2013 at 05:36 AM.
I'd run this by her doctor (or any doctor) first, but, as suggested by some of the prior posters, look for "Weight Gain" powder. A mix of simple carbs and protein. You could probably get 350 calories in a few times a day.
This looks like as good a place as any to make my 5 posts so i can lurk screenshots forum, so h-here goes...
2. My apologies. By way of contributing to the conversation, Carl's Jr. Is delicious.
3. Doing this makes me really feel like an asshole.
4. Bear with me here people.
5. Thank you for your patience.
Not that this thread is that great, but isn't there a designated thread to do this shit in?
I have no advice to give, other than to not take anyone's advice in this thread. Talk to her doctors for advice. I've had to bury both my parents after extended illnesses, so I know how difficult it can be. I'm sure she greatly appreciates your efforts, whether she lets you know or not. Good luck with your mom.
Don't for get Avocados. They provide good calories, carbs and fats.
Also almonds, walnuts and pecans. You can buy almond butter next to peanut butter typically. It costs more obviously, but much better for you.
I was hoping to come back to this thread at some point for confirmation OP didn't kill his mom by giving her a mix of protein powder and booze. Left disappointed...
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