Having been down the road of the acne/shave bump neck before, all I can say is that if you shave in a hot shower and use a quality cream/blade and go against the grain on a 3rd pass, I guarantee that you can achieve a baby smooth neck without the zits. If you really want to ensure 100% zero chance of bumps, buy some pre-shave oil like the one made by Proraso and rub some on 5 minutes before shaving, it will turn your beard to butter. Oh yeah, a really good alcohol free after-shave balm like the one sold by Kiehl's also really helps.
Last edited by Frenzied Wombat; 05-21-2013 at 08:45 PM.
Yeah I do shave in the shower, that definitely helped, as I would still get a little irritation just going across the grain(much less against) before I started shaving in a steamy shower. Really like the shaving mirror that was linked either earlier in this thread or maybe back on FOH
Shake the water off and leave it like you would any other razor. Replace the blade every few shaves.
Someone above commented about the weight of the Merkur razor and that is something I definitely noticed, but you get used to it. Because it's so heavy you don't really have to apply any pressure during the shave because it naturally pushes against your skin slightly due to the weight.
When I was using cartridges I was shaving 2 - 3 times a week because it was such an uncomfortable experience. Now I'm shaving daily and not only am I enjoying the experience, but I have zero irritation on my neck and my shave is closer than it ever was before.
How much time/shaving do you guys use your set of blades ?
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I use each blade 5 times or so but my facial hair is not very thick. I'd say just go until you notice any small amount of tugging instead of slicing through the hair like butter.
I use a new razor every other day because my hair is thicker than tree stumps.
Honestly, I find that time is almost worse than uses when it comes to a DE razor getting dull. If I shave once with a blade and then let it sit in the shower for the rest of the week, it's just as dull as if I had shaved every day with it in-between. Water/humidity + razor blades = short lifespan, it's worse on them than actually cutting facial hair. So basically, I change my blade out twice a week whether I only used it once, or used it 10 times.
Last edited by joeboo; 06-13-2013 at 08:34 PM.
i use a different blade for each pass on the blade for maximum smoothness. i order 500 packs of feather.
I started off using Taylor of Old Bond Street shave cream with a brush when I bought my first DE razor. I recently bough a tube of Jack Black beard lube because of some recommendations in this thread, for ease of use and not having to hassle with the brush.
Everything was going fine for a few weeks until I went back and used the shave cream with the brush again. I noticed the difference in the quality of shave is remarkable. The beard lube just doesn't stand up to the shave cream and brush for me. Maybe it's just me, because my hair is a little coarse. With the beard lube, I would find myself leaving areas unshaven entirely, and the overall closeness of the shave just doesn't even match up when I use the cream and brush.
Started shaving with my straight razor exclusively. Not the cleanest shave, but I get a burn free shave everytime. Even with a safety razor, I still feel some burn. My face is too damn sensitive. I might buy a better DE razor to try out some time down the road though. The Edwin Jagger 89EL is definitely not very good imo.
EDIT: Just saw this deal at my go to website for shaving products. The RazoRock razors get really good reviews and the Italianbarber sell them at barely any margin. Pick up a cheap Omega Pro series brush, RazoRock soap (or 2) and an alum (or 2) block and you're good for two years.
Last edited by The Dauntless One; 06-15-2013 at 08:06 AM.
You guys and your Feathers, really wish my face could handle it but it was just a little too much. It's been a couple years since I've tried them so may be worth a shot, but the Derby Extra have always treated me well.
I can't use Derby Extra. I cut my face up like crazy.
Yeah I get a bit bloody when using feathers, face can't handle it, but Derbys seem too dull, a lot of tugging. Astra's seem to be a happy medium for me and cost less than feathers. Only get like 4 shaves out of a blade tho.
I buy Derbys online for about $8/100. I'm cheap so that's what I use, but all this talk about Feathers made me find my old stash and try one again. Night and day. Feathers are $31/100 and I just might treat myself. I get 5 days from a Derby. If I can get that from a Feather, I'm a convert.
Another good blade is the black labeled Wilkonsons you can get at Walmart for $1.80/10. Smoother than Derbys, not as nice as that Feather I used this morning.
Of all the ones I've used so far I think Derby is by far my favorite, also. I don't think I've used a feather yet, though. Considering I have to change my blades after 1 or 2 days I prefer the cheaper ones.
Just came in today. I didn't know what aggressiveness I should be shaving at, and it was rough going against the grain. I cut myself in a few places, but my skin doesn't feel raw after shaving like with my EJ89. This is my second safety razor so I was a bit amazed when the shave felt infinitely better. Conclusion: EJ89 is not so good.
I have never actually shaved with anything but an electric, and it's something of a secret shame. My dad never really did the whole "this is how you shave a beard" thing with me and I just never learned how. So I'm scruffy all the time, shave once or twice a week with an electric and call it a day. I should probably fix that.
If the porn isn't high res you can't get horny, but you can hate a guy at 1000 paces without a scope. That's human nature.
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It certainly has its allure, I've just never taken the plunge and ordered a safety razor. Pretty sure I'd cut myself to ribbons for a while and look ridiculous. I've never used a multiblade razor either though, so I don't think I'd have to unlearn anything.
I just turned 31 a week ago. Maybe it's time.
If the porn isn't high res you can't get horny, but you can hate a guy at 1000 paces without a scope. That's human nature.
Just add any soap, alum block or after shave of your choice and you are set for 1 year. I recommend RazoRock because they are cheap and good.
I finally got around to getting one of those sampler packs of razors. First try was the Derby blade. I've never actually shaved with a jagged rock, but if I did that is how I imagine it would feel. jesus fuck, bros.
A few guys in this thread recommended them so I figured I would try that first. Man, it was literally the worst blade I have ever shaved with.
To each his own I guess, I can't shave with anything except a Derby. Everything else tears my face apart. I feel like i have a stupid face though.
Maybe I just got a defective blade or something. I have dry shaved with old school disposable Bics and it didn't burn and pull like that Derby did.
There are too many variables involved. What shave cream/soap, what razor, what's your beard like, what's your technique, been doing this for a while, etc.? Derby's don't seem to work for you, but that doesn't mean they're shitty blades. It's actually too bad for you because they're the cheapest thing going. They work OK for me. Others are sharper at 4 times the price and no gain in longevity.
I use Cella soap and a Gillette Red Tip razor. Maybe the slickness of the soap and the aggressiveness of the razor make Derbys work. Maybe I'm so cheap, cost is more important than anything else. Who knows?
I've made a horrible mistake. Started using Feather blades a couple months ago, and absolutely love them. Was finally about out of my little 20-pack that I had bought, so decided to go for the big savings and order a 100-pack. Well, on Amazon at least, all the 100-packs actually ship from Japan where they are made, via boat or whatever. Estimated delivery time is like 27 days, with no option for anything faster.
So now I'm out of feathers, and everything else feels like shaving with a rusty butter knife. Shit's tearing up my face since I was used to feathers. These next few weeks are going to suck. I'll need to plan ahead a little better next time.
Second blade in the pack: I went with Astra this time. HUGE improvement. Closer shave than I was getting with the Gillette blades I bought with my razor way back when. I feel like maybe the Derby blades didn't get a fair shake because I had almost a week of growth, but fuck that, it was pretty awful.
If you're ever in Walmart, pick up a pack of their Black Labeled Wilkonsons. $1.79/10. Not a bad blade.
I have the same experience with Derby's, I don't shave with them so much as yank the hairs out of my face. Astra's are my go to, I need to give feathers another go tho, when I first made the switch feathers fucked my face up, but I think thats on me, I bought a 100 pack of astras about a year ago so when that runs out I'll give feathers another go.
I'm about halfway through my initial sample pack of 16 blades. So far my favorites are Derby, Astra, and Feather. It's funny, because I'll think that a blade is good until I try the next one and I realize how bad the last one really was.
I'm going to go ahead and try all the different blades in the sample pack but right now I am pretty satisfied with the Astras. These Feathers sound like a pain in the ass with having to order them from overseas and shit, are they really that much better?
A face oil/conditioner as a pre-shave = wayy less nicks for me; and the good oils add an awesome warming sensation to them. Feather blades here too.
I just love that the "pricey" blades are still only like 20-25 cents apiece. I'm so goddamned happy to not be paying $35 for 8 gillete proglide cartridges anymore. $20 worth of feather blades are going to last me a full year.
No shit. I was stupid paying for those cartridges for all those years.
So I've been using a Braun series 7 electric razor for about 5 years now and have finally decided to ditch it. Thanks to this thread I picked up the following.
I have sensitive skin and growing a beard isn't an option because it's pathetic looking. Any opinions on what blade i should try first from the sample pack(first link)?
Start with the Astras, I've never known anyone to outright hate those. I like them, and they're a good, forgiving blade to start figuring out what you are doing. Maybe use 2 or 3 of the Astra blades over a couple weeks, then try out the others(besides the feathers), then come back to the Astra at the end to compare all the "normal" blades to the Astra again with your vastly superior shaving ability after many weeks of practice. Once you have a month or two of experience, and are real comfortable with everything, bust out the feathers. I love feathers, but had I started with them, I'd probably have bled to death, they're crazy sharp.
Feathers definitely require a practiced hand. One thing that helps when using them is to use short quick buffering strokes as you pull your skin tight.
On a side note I love shaving my face with my Merkur DE razor, but I also shave my head and there's no freaking way a DE razor goes near my head. I still use a Gilette Fusion blade for that, even though they cost a ton. ^_^
I shave my head, and it took a while to be able to do it with a DE razor. When I first started DE shaving, I tried shaving my head and just absolutely butchered it, I was bleeding all over the place. I tried again a few months after that, once I started using feather blades and I felt like I had a good handle on DE shaving, and I tore the hell out of my head again. I kept using a cartridge razor for a couple more months before I finally worked up the nerve to try it again, but I've finally got my method down.
I only shave my head maybe twice a week, so I end up having a decent amount of hair to shave each time(much more than on a typical face shave). I found that the best way to do it was to do an easy, light pass all over my head once, just to trim down the hair, not get my head smooth. After a quick once-over, I rinse, then re-lather my head and use a little more pressure to finish the shave off and get everything smooth. The key with your head is to just go SLOW. With a cartridge razor I could just go to town rapid-fire style and get my head shaved fast. I really have to take my time and take it slow with a DE. If I go too fast the razor nicks various bumps on my head and tends to bounce around more, causing cuts and irritation. Just go slow, and do 2 passes, and you should be fine.
Last edited by joeboo; 07-14-2013 at 05:49 AM.
Alright, y'all have convinced me to go back and try the Feathers again. They really were my favorite last time but just soooo sharp they irritated a bit. Now that I have a few years of practice and routine maybe it'll be better.
Also, for the longest time I've used regular Prorasso pre-shave but just ran out, any other suggestions?Originally Posted by McFly
Yep, a good blade combined with a good shaving cream/oil routine will offer almost no resistance. My beard is really coarse, the only blade to ever offer that feeling for me are the feathers, most others tug to varying degrees. If you prep properly and use a blade that gets along well with your face, very little pressure is required. That's what causes most people to nick/cut themselves when first starting, they push way too hard. I always err on the side of too little pressure when testing out a new blade, you can always push a little harder on a second pass if the first pass didn't do much.
I watched all the prep videos and finally found a good use for my Shark portable steam cleaner lol. Just used that on my face since the steam isn't that hot and then applied the shaving soap. Probably going to get the Fogless mirror for the shower because I really fucking hate cleaning the sink.
Just ordered that because of this thread. Day 2 with the razor was smooth as butter. I'm cleaning my blades with distilled water and drying them to see how long they last. Can't believe how long I used that fucking shitty electric razor. I'm a real man now!
That's the mirror I have, based on the recommendation of someone here. Just realize that you have to pull the mirror off of its mount and fill it with hot water to get it to be "fogless" each time you shower. Not really a big deal at all, takes all of 30 seconds, I just didn't realize that when I ordered it, I just thought it was some kind of magical mirror that didn't fog, lol.
Definitely let us know what you find out with the distilled water/drying technique, I've heard of people doing that but have never tried it myself. If it doubles or triples the usable life of a blade, it might be worth it(figuring cost/hassle of distilled water vs going through blades faster)
I think it was a slow progression of disposable razors. First the cheap little 1-blade bics came out, and people loved them. They weren't much more expensive than buying razor blades, and you could just throw the whole device away and use a new one every week or two, no hassle with changing blades. Then slowly over time, the complexity/price started creeping up as gillette and others introduced 2 blades, 3 blades, 4 blades, vibrating razors, 4 blades + trimming blade on the back, etc. As that slowly changed over the years and the prices became outrageous, people woke up and realized they were spending a fortune on something that was traditionally pretty cheap. The stupid shaving arms race of adding more and more blades is going to eventually hurt the razor companies as they are pricing people out of something that should be cheap and easy. Nobody wants to pay $4-$5 a pop for a razor cartridge that doesn't last much longer than a 10 cent double-edged razor blade. Thats just ridiculous.
This thread has convinced me to learn to be a man and ditch the electric.
Day 1, blood, blood everywhere from my neck.
It's hard for people to believe that the weight of the razor by itself is enough to shave with. Try not to push against your face at all, trust in the feathers.
I had a bunch of existing damage from some irritated hairs there already. The razor just leved the 'playing field' as it were.
Try stretching your skin a bit. Nicks and cuts can be caused my the unevenness of the skin and stretching can provide a smoother shaving surface. Another tip is never use pressure. Let the razor glide on top of your skin. Just remember to not use Derby (beatingdeadhorse.jpg) and you'll be fine.
I still like my Derby's. I use a heavy Merkur handle too, so I dunno.
Just ordered some Taylor's avocado shaving cream, can't wait for it. Been stuck using gilette canned shit while it ships, my face feels so dry and it rips in half when I try to shave.
Still interested to know if people have experience with different pre-shaves. Don't want to order more of the Proraso (not that there was anything wrong with it) without checking out some recommended stuff.
Most people will tell you preshave makes a difference. I don't use any myself and I am fine with it. Just stick with what you have now... If it's not working out try adding pre-shave.
The sample pack I bought came with two different packs of Dorso blades, st-300 and st-310. I have no idea what that means, so I tried the st-310. Comparable shave and closeness to the Astra and I didn't nick myself once, really nice. I'm giving each of these blades 3 shaves and I shave 2-3 times per week, so we will see how it goes.
Whats the proper cleaning method for handles? Mine is still pretty clean, but a bit gunky and probably tarnished in spots. Usually I just wash with soap and water, but is there a better, more preferred way?
Also, I recently got a huge pimple on my chin. Thought I'd be a boss and just shave right over it and instead I took the whole thing clean off. Now it's been scarred for a week and hurts like fuck. Worst idea ever.
I have a Merkur (i use) and a Gilette from like 1936.. i really want to clean the Gilette. Something felt weird about using a handle that so many dudes had used. Sort of like if you had sex with Ravenn, I imagine the feeling would be the same. Same chance of AIDs too I believe.
Just use 99% isopropyl alcohol to clean and disinfect.
EDIT: You can also use Brasso if your Gillette is tarnished. I would use Brasso to wipe the tarnish off, use 99% isopropyl to disinfect, and then use soapy hot water for final rinse.
Last edited by The Dauntless One; 07-25-2013 at 08:09 PM.
Used the Taylor's avocado shaving cream today. Felt so nice going from Gilette can stuff back to the real stuff. Smells decent, I actually think I prefer the Taylor's lavender one (does that make me girly?) but both are good. I think I need new blades, felt like the derby's were pulling at my hair rather than cutting it. Need something sharper I guess.
It looks like my shaving soap is going to be running out in the next few weeks. I'm really excited to try a new variety. I'm probably going to go with that razor rock one that was mentioned a couple times on the first page of this thread, unless anyone else has other suggestions.
I bowl lather and if you do, use lots of water with this one. It smells like almonds and produces a rich, thick lather. It's been around forever with good reason.
I use a lavender shaving cream and aftershave lotion, I would describe the smell a masculine smell, definitely not feminine at all.
Yeah, I mean don't get me wrong the Avocado smells good (and not like Avocado at all), but the Lavender was just perfect. Fiance loves the smell too, that's always good. She also loves the Aqua Velva after shave I use, so she could just like old man smell.
ordered a merkur 1904 42c razor + feather blades
Last edited by Azeth*; 07-29-2013 at 07:54 PM.
just used my merkur 1904 for the first time cleaning up my beard this morning, im in love. im so happy with this purchase.
I just shaved with a feather blade for the first time. God damn, I've been missing out this whole time. Astras were nice, but after feather, it's just ok. I will gladly pay double for my blades for feather.
My safety razor can now compete with my straight razor for smoothness... and without all the hassle.
I need to try some feathers I think. Derbys are good, but yet I don't feel they are getting the smoothness I desire.. and I really don't want to do the 4-pass thing a lot of guys do (once in each direction).
Generally 2 pass plus buff will get your face pretty smooth. I've tried 3 full passes with a safety razor and my face feels too raw so it's not worth it. I feel old saying this, but feeling nothing is great. I'd rather live with some hair than have my face feel like burning everytime I shave.
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